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/r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 902, Part 1 |
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https://www.reddit.com/live/18hnzysb1elcs (https://www.reddit.com) |
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|u/WorldNewsMods - 1 month |
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|[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/1esltp3/rworldnews_li |
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|ve_thread_russian_invasion_of/) |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[General Staff of Armed forces of Ukraine claims shooting down Su-34 |
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|fighter-bomber over Kursk region |
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|overnight](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-general-staff-of- |
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|armed-forces-of-ukraine-claims) |
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|u/Style75 - 1 month |
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|How many do they have left now? |
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|u/AccordingBread4389 - 1 month |
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|The bottleneck are not the jets, but the pilots. |
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|u/JoshuaZ1 - 1 month |
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|Standard estimates are that 160 to 180 were built, with a lot of |
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|Western sources saying 163. They've lost a few in various non- |
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|combat accidents, and that accounts for about 10 of them. How many |
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|have been shot down by Ukraine is unclear. From [the Wikipedia |
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|article](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34) which has been |
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|updated a few days ago, it looks like at least 18 confirmed down and |
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|another 10 or so unconfirmed. But it is possible that some of those |
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|were able to be returned to service. This does not count damage to |
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|them from being hit while on the ground, which has happened to at |
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|least two (with unclear amounts of damage). So a plausible range is |
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|that they've lost 20-40 of them. The Su-34 is also under ongoing |
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|production, so pilot deaths may be more helpful here than aircraft |
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|destruction, and that number is probably a little lower due to |
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|successful ejections, which may be around 15- 30 as a plausible |
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|number. Also, since that is keeping pilot numbers into account, the |
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|pilot deaths from accidents a decade ago matter less for that |
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|purpose since they've been replaced. 15-20 or so pilots of Su-34s |
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|since February of 2022 seems like a good rough estimate. |
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|u/Acceptable-Pin2939 - 1 month |
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|Something else to note that the USAF expects to have a readiness |
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|rate between 75 and 85%. So you can expect the Russian aircraft |
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|readiness rate to be considerably lower. Probably closer to 50%. |
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|Russia for example are struggling to get *water* to their pilots. |
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|So you can probably with reasonable confidence say that half of |
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|whatever fleet remains is at any point not available for sorties. |
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|u/MartovsGhost - 1 month |
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|On the other hand, American doctrine emphasizes safety over |
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|efficiency. So generally there's a pretty large cushion built in |
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|for American expectations. What is ready for Americans is |
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|probably luxury for Russians. So Russia may operate at a similar |
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|optempo, but just accept more casualties/accidents. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|Too many. Plus it’s one of the jet types they still get somewhat |
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|regular deliveries of. |
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|u/grimmalkin - 1 month |
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|* approximately 594,400 (+1,240) military personnel; * 8,476 (+21) |
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|tanks; * 16,402 (+17) armoured combat vehicles; * 16,821 (+57) artillery |
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|systems; * 1,151 (+5) multiple-launch rocket systems; * 921 (+1) air |
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|defence systems; * 366 (+0) fixed-wing aircraft; * 328 (+0) helicopters; |
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|* 13,548 (+57) strategic and tactical UAVs; * 2,426 (+0) cruise |
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|missiles; * 28 (+0) ships and boats; * 1 (+0) submarines; * 22,710 (+61) |
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|vehicles and tankers; * 2,813 (+7) special vehicles and other equipment. |
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|u/flukus - 1 month |
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|2/3rds of a months tank production gone in one day. |
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|u/jszj0 - 1 month |
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|Yep good to see the tank numbers tick up again |
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|u/MaraudersWereFramed - 1 month |
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|I'm guessing those non-conscript reinforcements are arriving in |
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|kursk area |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|A huge day for tanks. I really wonder what the story is there. |
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|u/PacificProblemChild - 1 month |
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|Wow, if these figures exclude Kursk, this is a big day. Russian |
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|movements exposing armour (particularly tanks)? Actually even if it |
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|includes Kursk… Arty still high as well. Ukraine has been busy! |
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|u/bitch_fitching - 1 month |
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|Most of the confirmed tank losses on warspotting over the past week |
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|have come from Kursk. |
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|u/CavemanMork - 1 month |
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|There have also been reports of Russia pushing along other parts |
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|of the front despite Kursk. I guess they're trying to keep |
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|Ukraine from capitalizing. So I guess that might be a possible |
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|cause too. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[According to information circulating on social media, two Chinese men |
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|who joined the Russian army in early June were killed in action on Aug 1 |
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|after they were sent to the front line on July 31 as |
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|commandos](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-according-to- |
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|information-circulating-on-social) |
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|u/AssinineJerk - 1 month |
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|AliByeBye |
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|u/Mistletokes - 1 month |
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|Temu Berets |
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|u/purpleefilthh - 1 month |
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|Wish Force |
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|u/varro-reatinus - 1 month |
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|KIAliExpress |
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|u/GrapefruitExpress208 - 1 month |
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|That was quick |
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|u/JmacPlayer - 1 month |
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|i saw some quote that the average cannon fodder of Russia lives 8-12 |
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|hour on the frontline. |
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|u/ttbnz - 1 month |
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|That long? |
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|u/TTGG - 1 month |
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|7-11 hours of drinking then 1 hour of stumbling across an empty |
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|field. |
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|u/Canop - 1 month |
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|Efficient and as planned. The Russian army wasted less than a month |
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|before having them do their part in a meat wave. |
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|u/cuttino_mowgli - 1 month |
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|Yeah they're sent to the front line as a part of the meat brigades. |
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|u/LilLebowskiAchiever - 1 month |
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|Didn’t even make it to 10 weeks. SMDH. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russian channels are tired of the Russian MoD hiding the truth. |
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|“Sudzha is not controlled by Russian forces and this is confirmed by |
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|various units that are fighting in the Sudzhansky district. If someone |
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|says otherwise, then they are simply devaluing the blood of the soldiers |
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|who are now shedding it |
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|there.”](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823606769077063722) |
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|u/thisiscotty - 1 month |
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|https://x.com/Tendar/status/1823594882423730213?t=ECrrwZFwhSqErju- |
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|lNdadw&s=19 "Ukrainian UAVs reached the Kulebaksky District, Nizhny |
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|Novgorod Region, in Russia. Target was most certainly the Savasleyka air |
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|base, which is home to MiG-31K. It seems that at least one drone goes |
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|controlled nose-dive down. Citizens in the region counted 10 drones." |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russian strikes on Ukrainian positions in Kamyshnoe, close to Girki’. |
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|This is a plausible confirmation that Ukrainian forces have indeed |
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|advanced along the Borki-Spal’noe-Krupets line and confirms our |
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|expectations from yesterday, that the fighting would be somewhere near |
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|Krupets. We will adjust our map accordingly with an update later |
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|today.](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823630712546771241) |
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|u/Ithikari - 1 month |
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|The last video was the aftermath of Ukraine's strike on Akhmet forces |
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|in Giri. |
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|u/green_pachi - 1 month |
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|Footage from an Italian journalist crossing the border and reaching |
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|Sudzha: https://x.com/Tg1Rai/status/1823789746813857817 The girl |
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|interviewed at the end says that the Russians told them to wait there |
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|and left, and that the Ukrainian soldiers are treating them well. The |
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|soldier at the end observes that the houses are intact as opposed to |
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|what the Russians do. |
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|> Morning report by Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi on the |
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|situation across all major directions, particularly in the Toretsk and |
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|Pokrovsk areas, as well as the operation in the Kursk region. > We are |
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|not forgetting our eastern front for a second. I have instructed the |
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|Commander-in-Chief to strengthen this direction using the equipment and |
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|supplies currently provided by our partners. > We are advancing in the |
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|Kursk region, one to two kilometers in various areas since the beginning |
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|of the day. We have captured more than 100 Russian servicemen during |
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|this period. I am grateful to everyone involved; this will accelerate |
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|the return of our guys and girls home. |
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|https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1823668437219979491 > Meeting on the |
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|situation in the Kursk region. We discussed key issues: security, |
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|humanitarian aid, and, if necessary, the establishment of military |
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|commandant’s offices. > Ukraine is defending itself and the lives of |
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|its people in border communities while also taking active steps on |
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|Russian territory. Our forces strictly adhere to the requirements of |
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|international conventions and humanitarian law. |
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|https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1823706153588518944 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Even more |
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|POWs](https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1823643250374094939) |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*Ukraine announced the opening of humanitarian corridors for the |
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|evacuation of civilians from the Kursk region both towards Ukraine and |
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|Russia* https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823819012939375097 |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|Easy choice if you're Russian. You can literally upgrade your life |
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|instantly by detecting to the west. Anyways, this is occupation done |
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|right. Ukraine is not there to destroy anything except the Russian |
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|military and that's it. They take care of civilians. They feel sorry |
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|for them. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russian forces are rapidly digging a network of trenches in Kursk |
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|Oblast, with only one catch: The trenches are 45km behind the border. |
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|Russian forces have been developing a trench network that, if fallen |
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|back to, would cede Ukraine a massive amount of |
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|territory.](https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1823548238433050845) |
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|Includes geolocation of digging sites. Ripe for some drone attacks |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|I can't remember who said it but this placement of trenches is very |
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|stupid. The trenches are within walking distance of the only highway |
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|in the area. So if you have to defend your trenches, it means you |
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|already can't use that highway. |
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|Well yes but you cant dig near the NPP either. They are forced to |
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|dig there. It doesnt matter tho. They are not pulling enough real |
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|troops to defend right now. They will lose more land. |
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|u/androshalforc1 - 1 month |
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|I feel as though it was a knee jerk reaction. The highways there so |
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|we can get heavy equipment in easily and start digging right now. |
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|I don’t think they were planning to use the highway as a supply |
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|line, however i wouldn’t put it past them. |
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|u/KGB4L - 1 month |
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|I mean i guess it makes sense to dig there. Those roads are what |
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|Ukraine is after. As you wrote somewhere, if you control those 3 |
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|highways, you pretty much control Kursk and Belgorod. |
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|u/TheHammerandSizzel - 1 month |
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|Fun part is, they don’t need to fully control it, as long as they |
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|are in range to shoot it they can deny access to it. That’s why the |
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|supply lines are usually 3 defensive lines back |
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|u/KGB4L - 1 month |
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|Yeah that’s what I mean. Someone did and ElI5 yesterday explaining |
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|what each road means and why it’s important. |
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|u/SemanticTriangle - 1 month |
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|Is going deeper into Kursk a useful strategic objective? Based on the |
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|known control map from yesterday, isn't there an opportunity to flank |
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|Kharkiv border forces and rout them, essentially linking up to |
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|Ukrainian forces there, on and on along the border, until the Russians |
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|can produce enough resistance to hold their lines against pressure |
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|from the sides? That's a lot of shit to wreck that's more valuable |
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|than some holes in the ground in Russia. |
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|u/TheHammerandSizzel - 1 month |
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|It’s maneuver war fare. It’s really going to depend on the Russians. |
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| You can kinda think of it like water, Ukraine is a flood going down |
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|a slope, it’s going to constantly take the path of least resistance. |
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|They likely have a list of objectives, and will keep going, cutting |
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|supply lines, flanking, taking strategic points, damaging Russia |
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|until and they are getting serious resistance everywhere. At that |
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|point they probably/hopefully have identified defensive points they |
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|can fall back to. Right now, there’s a strategic power nuclear |
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|power plant, and two highways and a railway line they can take while |
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|additionally potentially causing an evacuation on Kursk. There |
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|likely better off pushing there now because that area is where |
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|Russia is going to harden first. Also if the lines are that deep |
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|they can prepare their own lines further back, just need to make |
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|sure that highway is in artillery range |
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|u/Iwillrize14 - 1 month |
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|Exactly, it's all about guerrilla warfare and making them divert |
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|resources. Russia is already bad at allocation without them |
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|having to deal with this. It seems UA was paying a lot of |
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|attention to Wagners little attempt a while back. |
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|u/TheOtherManSpider - 1 month |
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|The city of Kursk has a population of 440k. If they can get close |
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|enough to cause an evacuation, it would be a logistical nightmare |
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|and a political disaster for Putin. That is quite far from today's |
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|situation and who knows if that is worth the risk and the resources. |
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|Actually taking the city is most certainly too difficult, so maybe |
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|Russia would risk it and not evacuate at all. |
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|u/BasvanS - 1 month |
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|If they don’t evacuate they run the risk of people fleeing by |
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|themselves in an uncontrolled manner. That’s an even bigger |
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|u/Nume-noir - 1 month |
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|And if people start fleeing on their own and congest the very |
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|highway the russian army is using to resupply the front, that's |
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|another big oopsie. |
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|u/--ThirdEye-- - 1 month |
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|If Ukraine could gain control of the Kursk NPP with minimal losses |
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|then it would be useful, however, given that Russia was willing to |
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|both attack ZNPP while it was active and start a fire at it while it |
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|was inactive, I don't think it is a valid objective currently. |
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|Their best current objective is to both reduce troop numbers and |
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|destroy military targets / caches used for sending missiles into |
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|Ukraine with the added benefit of scaring the shit out of local |
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|Russians. Ideally, they could get nice and close to show "we could |
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|end you, but we're not the assholes in this war so run to Moscow now |
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|and share the truth" Kind of like inglorious bastards carving |
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|swastikas into the Nazi foreheads, but a little less Tarantino. |
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|u/thisiscotty - 1 month |
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|"Kursk Battle Map (August 14) Ukrainian Forces 🇺🇦 have liberated 17 |
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|more settlements in the past 3 days; they control at least 46 |
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|settlements in the Kursk Region, with 28 more being contested or having |
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|a Ukrainian presence Russia has lost at least 654 and up to 1,027km2 in |
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|Kursk" https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1823792499967844664?t=fcZBoFh3 |
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|BVnZcM7RfsMuNw&s=19 |
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|u/Personal_Person - 1 month |
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|Context of "Liberated" is funny here but I still think its fair, as |
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|taking these towns will help to barter for their own territory, its |
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|100% deserved |
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|u/Cortical - 1 month |
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|Americans marching into German towns were often seen as liberators. |
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|The Russians there may not be occupied by a foreign power, but |
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|they're still oppressed. |
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|u/flukus - 1 month |
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|Where are all those people telling us the offensive had stalled? |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|[Ukrainian] *T-90M Breakthrough on the Kursk front* |
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|https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1823862473180766560 No |
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|context though. |
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|u/zertz7 - 1 month |
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|As far as I know the only T-90s that Ukraine got are the ones they |
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|captured from Russia |
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|u/Windaturd - 1 month |
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|Given that an the huge cope cage, feels like this is a new addition |
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|to the UAF. |
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|u/_EnFlaMEd - 1 month |
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|Fuck yeah Triangle squad! |
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|Brotherhood of steel has arrived |
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|That’s some cope cage. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|(Commander of local Akhmat troops) [Alaudinov called Syrsky a turkey and |
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|said Zelensky is |
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|gay.](https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1823643328254005448) 12 year |
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|old kid vibes, when they are losing at Call of Duty |
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|u/Pilzmann - 1 month |
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|I love when they say that majority is destroyed etc. And then they |
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|end up getting assfucked by a stryker,bradley,marder. Cant wait to |
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|see this guy in a black and white picture. |
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|u/snarpygsy - 1 month |
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|Everything is fine, going exactly to plan. |
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|u/Logical_Welder3467 - 1 month |
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|Bro, you guy just got cooked by a turkey? |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Ukrainian drones active at Sudzha-Belaya, Sudzha-Oboya |
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|roads](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-ukrainian-drones-active- |
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|at-sudzhabelaya-sudzhaoboya) |
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|u/stirly80 - 1 month |
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|Ukrainian forces have taken more territory on the left flank of their |
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|attack vector into the Russian Kursk region. The Russian flag has been |
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|torn down from the administrative building of Vnezapnoe. https://x.com/ |
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|u/dj_vicious - 1 month |
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|Off topic but It would be cool to have one of those flags as a |
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|souvenir. Either a Russian flag torn down by the UA in the invasion or |
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|a Ukrainian flag that replaced it. |
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|u/green_pachi - 1 month |
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|More details on the robot dog we saw few days ago: >Ukraine deploys |
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|over 30 British robot dogs in Donbas combat >The results are |
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|impressive. Our robot dogs are carrying out reconnaissance missions on |
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|the front lines, reducing risks for human soldiers. This not only |
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|increases combat efficiency but also boosts the army’s morale,” |
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|>According to journalists, there are currently over 30 robot dogs on the |
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|front lines of the Russian-Ukrainian war. Thanks to thermal camouflage |
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|produced by the German company Concamo, they are nearly impossible to |
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|detect. The robots can move across the battlefield at speeds of up to 15 |
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|km/h and conduct reconnaissance missions within a 3.5 km radius for up |
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|to five hours. https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukraine-deploys- |
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|over-30-british-robot-dogs-in-donbas-combat-bild-50442967.html |
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|u/FadingStar617 - 1 month |
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|Just as tanks bevcame the symbol of modern wars in WW2, so are drones |
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|now in this war. I think the best thing here is the thermal |
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|stealth. And the speed ( 15 km per hour is no joke). |
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|u/throwaway177251 - 1 month |
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|The battery life of legged drones is a huge improvement over copters |
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|too. One of these robot dogs could walk 5km to a location, wait and |
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|observe an area for *hours* and then walk back to base on a single |
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|charge. |
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|u/arkangel371 - 1 month |
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|There is something soooo wild about having autonomous robo dogs |
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|lurking in a battlefield. |
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|u/Kumimono - 1 month |
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|Dogs, robot or not, will boost morale. :) |
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|u/flukus - 1 month |
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|How expensive are they? Would be great to teach them to bury their |
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|robot bones in minefields. |
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|u/green_pachi - 1 month |
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|Not that much: >Depending on the modification, the gadgets range in |
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|price from 4,000 to 8,000 euros. |
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|I read the first ten lines of the article for you, 4,000 - 8,000 |
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|Euro. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[New ISW update](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian- |
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|offensive-campaign-assessment-august-13-2024) [Yesterday's map](https:/ |
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|/www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/UAF%20Kursk%20Incursion%20 |
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|August%2012%2C%202024.png); [today's map](https://www.understandingwar.o |
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|rg/sites/default/files/UAF%20Kursk%20Incursion%20August%2013%2C%202024.p |
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|ng) [The size of the main pocket](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachment |
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|is=66bc3e23&hm=afa616dcfab3b116f3686c80dc8ed18e3b2422f0aace25057c6ada511 |
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|ee78c37&) - Nearly 846 km^(2). Add to that the Slobodka-Ivanovka and |
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|Kucherov pockets (8.4 km^(2) and 1 km^(2) respectively) and the total is |
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|855 km^(2). Increase of 37 km^(2) from yesterday's 818 km^(2) Smallest |
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|daily advance thus far... then again, the fact that 37 km^(2) is small |
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|shows how much Ukraine has spoiled us these past few days, if Russia had |
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|an advance of that size it'd be in the top 5 of their daily advances |
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|this year. |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|The AFU is blocked by Korenovo and Giri (west and east) so their |
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|advance is slowed. If the AFU takes either of those towns the AFU can |
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|probably rapidly seize territory again as it will open up new open |
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|spaces to attack and the roads to supply the attack. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*Kursk update 1/3 - Korenevo/Snagost* *➡️ The AFU has taken the fields |
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|in between Snagost and the Korenevo highway under control. Leading to |
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|further advances north and west.* ➡️ *According to Russian sources, AFU |
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|reached Krasnooktyabr'sko, likely attempting to perform a flank |
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|operation towards Korenevo.* ➡️ *Heavy fighting is reported in the |
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|eastern outskirts of Korenevo, with rumors of the civilian |
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|administration in the city already evacuating coming in.* |
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|https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1823825710429167715 |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*Kursk update 2/3 - Gordeevka* ➡️ *Rumors circulated already for |
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|several days, but the AFU has passed the Gordeevka crossing and now |
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|controls Gordeevka, Viktorova and Vznezapnoe, the latter was also |
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|visually confirmed.* *Controlling this border crossing, strengthens |
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|the position of AFU troops fighting from Snagost, protecting their |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*Kursk update 3/3 - Borki/Giri’* ➡️*The AFU has taken Cherkasskaya |
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|Konopel'ka while also operating deeper towards Ulenok.* ➡️*With |
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|confidence we can confirm that the AFU has taken most of Borki and |
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|Spal’noe.* *Taking OPSEC into consideration, the fighting has moved |
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|further east. But this needs to be clarified.* |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|I’d be very surprised if there were any civilian admin left in |
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|Korenevo considering they were evacuating civilians a few days ago. |
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|Does seem like it’s probably a matter of time before Ukraine enters |
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|the town proper though. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Today's advances were mainly towards the west/southwest of the pocket. |
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|If we pair it with the Glushkovo evacuation, I feel like Ukraine might |
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|start pushing there, probably immediately after Korenevo falls. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|https://x.com/prestonstew_/status/1823818177647661067 *Ukrainian |
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|tactics in Kursk according to Russian milblogger Two Majors.* *He says |
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|that Ukraine knows the mixed nature of forces attempting to stop them |
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|and they're taking advantage of that. Small groups push into areas |
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|between Russian formations, make their presence known and wait to see |
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|how Russia responds.* *If Russia sends in a large force, the Ukrainians |
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|withdraw or shift left or right to avoid a major confrontation and test |
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|out a new axis of advance. However, if few or no Russian forces |
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|respond, they move a reserve element forward to further defend this new |
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|terrain.* *In essence, Ukraine is continuously probing for gaps. |
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|When they find one, they're exploited and we see forward progress by |
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|Ukrainian forces. Two Majors says this is a problem as there are |
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|communications issues between Russian units so it's not always clear who |
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|is responding to the nearest threat and with what capabilities. This |
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|has allowed Ukraine to continue advancing even as more Russian forces |
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|deploy to Kursk.* |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|This works well if your opponent is not mobile. If they are mobile |
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|you end up creating dozens of salients they can pinch off. I assume |
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|this is also leading to Russia thinking the AFU is everywhere and also |
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|thinking they have fended off attacks. In a sense they have as they |
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|push back recon forces. |
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|u/Personal_Person - 1 month |
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|In fact Russia is not mobile, their attempt to move towards modern, |
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|maneuver warfare totally failed with their "battalion tactical |
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|groups" organizational structure. It was SUPPOSED to lead to more |
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|control on the lower officer level to exploit mistakes your enemy |
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|makes and move more fluidly, call for supplies/artillery more |
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|efficiently but it fell apart really quickly. Why did it fall |
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|apart? Morale was low, officer training was incredibly poor, in |
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|practice a lot of the pieces broke down and force units to avoid |
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|moving around to much and they couldn't accurately call in support. |
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|They switched mostly back to a more soviet style of fighting, big |
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|gigantic defensive lines and move up in mixed armored and infantry |
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|groups supported by artillery. Overall that strategy shift "worked" |
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|for them, and they can hold onto and slowly take land elsewhere in |
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|Ukraine, but when being invaded it doesn't seem to work for them, |
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|and forces them to send way more units to the area than if they had |
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|more capable, mobile units like they had originally intended. |
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|Couple that with Russias ABYSMAL, almost non-existent, NCO corp and |
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|you have a recipe for failure on every level. |
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|u/JoshuaZ1 - 1 month |
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|> officer training was incredibly poor > Couple that with Russias |
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|ABYSMAL, almost non-existent, NCO corp and you have a recipe for |
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|failure on ever level. Connected aspect: maneuver warfare also |
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|requires pretty high levels of initiative at a wide variety of |
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|levels, and the Russians really aren't trained or even deeply |
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|u/RealApostate - 1 month |
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|Russia is past desperate if they are sending 70-year-old disabled men to |
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|the front. >ASTRA reports that hundreds of 'refuseniks' have been held |
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|at Kamenka near St Petersburg, where the 138th Separate Motorised Rifle |
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|Brigade is based. Relatives say that some are unfit to fight, one man is |
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|70 years old and can barely walk, and another has only one eye. |
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|u/Njorls_Saga - 1 month |
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|There was a POW from around a year ago who had stage IV lung cancer. |
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|Fucking wild. |
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|u/Logical_Welder3467 - 1 month |
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|Your country demand this one last service from you. Put down the |
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|oxygen tank and move towards that trench |
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|u/zertz7 - 1 month |
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|They need to pay less pensions if old people die so economically it |
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|makes sense |
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|u/jcrestor - 1 month |
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|Wrong perspective. For Putin this is a double win. He does not have to |
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|mobilize higher caste people, and every 70 year old or one-eyed less |
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|is a relieve for his social services. Meat is meat. |
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|Killing off the older generation is definitely one way to solve |
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|u/BossReasonable6449 - 1 month |
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|Yeah, now they can lack both. |
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|u/unpancho - 1 month |
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|/1823860031223386532.html) 1/ Hundreds of Russians who have refused |
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|to fight for various reasons – age, sickness, mental health – are |
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|reported to have been taken from a military base where they were being |
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|held and flown to Kursk, where they will likely be used in efforts to |
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|repel Ukraine's incursion. ⬇️ |
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|u/machopsychologist - 1 month |
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|They use undesirables as bait then use shock troops to flank. This is |
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|a core design of their tactics. |
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|u/smurf-vett - 1 month |
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|Minefields not gonna clear it's self.... |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Additional info about the Kursk region according to Russian sources. |
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|The AFU has taken control over Cherkasskaya Konopel'ka (in red) east of |
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|Sudzha. “The enemy is gradually turning Sudzha into their support and |
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|logistics center. This will really make our situation even more |
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|complicated,” they |
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|note.](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823612654235091357) That is |
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|some 6-7 km southeast of Sudzha, and outside the pocket |
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|u/C0wabungaaa - 1 month |
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|~~Is it just me or does it sound really risky to turn a town rrrrright |
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|on the frontline that's already nearly surrounded on three sides by |
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|Ukraine into a regional support and logistics center? Especially |
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|because it's Ukraine that has momentum and the initiative there, not |
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|Russia.~~ Edit: I misunderstood I thought the AFU said that the enemy |
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|was turning Sudzha into their support and logistics center. But it's |
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|the Russian sources that said that. The AFU is doing that to Sudzha, |
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|which makes perfect sense. |
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|u/rhatton1 - 1 month |
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|Big urban Center defended by topography and a good sized river in a |
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|“major” highway into Ukraine makes it a great forward operating base |
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|to push on from. Defense lines will likely be built up to around |
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|10km out from this if it does become the base. |
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|u/OrangeBird077 - 1 month |
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|The rail lines are why it’s so valuable for logistics and since the |
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|front line is still expanding it will be more in the rear in time. |
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|Without a set trench and mine system nearby the Russians won’t be |
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|able to station artillery close enough to hit it without getting |
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|destroyed. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russian forces have repeatedly (reportedly?) again accidentally |
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|targeted their own supply convoys going into Kursk region of |
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|Russia.](https://x.com/WarMonitor3/status/1823774311703867842) (someone |
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|posted a photo of it in the replies) Edit: [More |
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|evidence](https://x.com/DefMon3/status/1823784370391396541) With |
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|enemies like these... |
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|u/ElectroStaticz - 1 month |
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|Simply beautiful. |
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|u/Jung_69 - 1 month |
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|Repeatedly because couple days ago they did cas mission on their own |
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|convoy and destroyed sp arty |
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|u/Cmonlightmyire - 1 month |
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|War is hard when you're stupid. Or to pull out the ever quotable |
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|Ukrainian soldier "We are very lucky they are so fucking |
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|stupid" |
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|u/m48a5_patton - 1 month |
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|I hope that legend is still still alive and doing alright. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*We lost a convoy quite deep inside Kursk, it's sad and tragic, however |
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|the location is very significant and may indicate further advances of |
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|Ukrainian military inside Kursk* |
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|https://twitter.com/Teoyaomiquu/status/1823784516097597738 |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|It is likely that Ukraine has scout vehicles deep in Russia like this. |
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|u/taurine_bitch - 1 month |
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|In this context, who is _we_? Ukraine lost a convey or russia did? It |
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|kind of reads like russia did since it mentions Ukrainian military |
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|later but it's a little unclear. |
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|u/M795 - 1 month |
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|> Today, I held a meeting with government officials—including the Prime |
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|Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, the Minister of Internal Affairs, |
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|and the Ombudsman of the Verkhovna Rada—regarding support for our |
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|military actions in the Kursk region. It is crucial that Ukraine fights |
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|according to the rules, and that humanitarian needs in that area must be |
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|met. > Today’s report from the head of the Security Service of Ukraine |
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|was positive. I want to thank all our SBU warriors, as well as the |
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|warriors of the Defense Forces of Ukraine, the Main Intelligence |
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|Directorate (HUR), and all the structures involved. I thank for the |
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|precise, timely, and effective strikes on Russian airfields. > Our |
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|Ukrainian drones are working exactly as needed. However, there are |
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|things that drones alone cannot achieve, unfortunately. We need other |
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|weapons—missile systems. We continue to work with our partners to secure |
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|long-range solutions for Ukraine because these are forward-looking |
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|decisions essential for our victory. This must be done. The bolder our |
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|partners' decisions, the less Putin can do. |
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|https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1823779258981908493 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[The AFU captured a command post, reportedly of the 28th Rifle Battalion |
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|of the 60th Motorized Rifle Brigade, part of the 'Kursk' |
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|group.](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823601851671236961) |
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|u/jani00 - 1 month |
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|One of the funniest things I've seen recently: The AFU captured a |
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|command post, reportedly of the 28th Rifle Battalion of the 60th |
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|Motorized Rifle Brigade, part of the 'Kursk' group. [https://x.com/NOEL |
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|reports/status/1823601851671236961](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/182 |
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|3601851671236961) Sorry for x link. |
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|u/lI3g2L8nldwR7TU5O729 - 1 month |
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|I don't know a word Ukranian, but I'm laughing with them! I'll forgive |
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|you the X link, since I stopped using it myself. Thank you for |
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|exposing yourself to that toxic environment to share the few gems with |
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|me. |
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|u/localghost - 1 month |
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|They're speaking Russian, mocking Prigozhin and likely referencing |
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|other stuff I don't recognize. |
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|u/gradinaruvasile - 1 month |
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|The one that picked up the phone said something with "Shoigu, |
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|Gherasimov", i suppose the famous angry phrase with the ammo. |
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|u/lI3g2L8nldwR7TU5O729 - 1 month |
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|Thanks! |
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|u/greentea1985 - 1 month |
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|It feels like they are recreating the [Reply of the Zaporozhian Coss |
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|acks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossack |
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|s?wprov=sfti1#). It’s a legendary incident where supposedly the |
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|Cossacks responded to an ultimatum by telling the Turkish emperor |
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|who made the ultimatum multiple ways he could go F himself. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Ukrainian media teams are on the ground in |
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|Suzdha](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-ukrainian-media-teams- |
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|are-on-the-ground-in-suzdha) |
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|u/greentea1985 - 1 month |
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|It’s noteworthy that they are walking around openly and aren’t even |
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|wearing body armor. Sudzha is now well behind the front lines even if |
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|Russia doesn’t want to admit it. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russians report that the situation for their soldiers at Kinburn Spit |
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|is particularly |
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|bad.](https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1823677846268559831) |
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|Ukrainians are pressing there |
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|u/b_bozz - 1 month |
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|Dumb question, but can someone explain the significance of the Kinburn |
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|Spit from a strategic standpoint and why Ukraine keeps attacking it? |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|If Ukraine somehow managed to liberate Kinburn Spit ([together with |
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|Tendra spit and that general area](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attach |
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|a693669d317&)), they could effectively unblockade the ports of |
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|Ochakiv and Mykolaiv, or at least unburden them. As Russian guns are |
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|right across the strait, using those cities as ports has become very |
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|risky, and as such Ukraine only uses Odessa and Chornomorsk in the |
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|southwest. |
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|u/Bdcollecter - 1 month |
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|It would also serve as a potentially unfortified area to strike |
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|out from. Theirs so many logistical problems with that though, |
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|and even just keeping a group on the spit to defend it, that it |
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|wouldn't be worth it. |
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|Look at a map, everything North and West of the spit is controlled |
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|by Ukraine. Everything South of it is open ocean. Only the inland |
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|(East) is controlled by Russia which means, if Ukraine can drive |
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|Russia off the spit, they get a large stretch of estuary to bring |
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|across equipment and troops without being under Russian fire. Would |
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|be an excellent stepping off point for an attack on the neck of |
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|Crimea. |
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|u/green_pachi - 1 month |
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|From the Kinburn Spit Russia is shelling southern Mykolaiv and |
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|Kherson. From there they also limit the access to the Dnipro-Buzka |
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|estuary. |
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|It's hugely important for Ukraine to recapture the Kinburn and |
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|Tendra spits. If Russia controls them, they can basically completely |
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|choke of Mykolaiv from the sea, and it puts them uncomfortably close |
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|to Odesa in terms of drone and long range rocket attacks. If Ukraine |
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|can capture the spits and also the first 25 miles or so of the south |
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|bank of the Dnipro, they can also open up Kherson somewhat. |
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|u/machopsychologist - 1 month |
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|I think it's about building tension. In order to stretch Russian |
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|troops you need to have as much tension as possible across the entire |
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|line. So pulling on the Kinburn Spit is needed to pull even more |
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|resources from the rest of the line. I guess that they really did |
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|want to keep Krynky but just had to let it go. |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|I assume it is not a coincidence that Ukraine is attacking on the |
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|opposite end of the line as Kursk. That's how they did the Kherson |
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|+ Kharkiv attacks. |
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|2B-Mpw&s=19 "They say at least 10 arrivals reported at the Russian |
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|airfield Slavasleika. UA drones worked well." |
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|The shock Ukrainian invasion of Kursk has the Kremlin pulling some |
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|troops out of Ukraine to defend Russia, per reports - Business Insider |
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|>Russia is withdrawing some of its troops from Ukraine in response to |
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|Ukraine's counter-invasion into Russia that started last week, the Wall |
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|Street Journal reported on Tuesday, citing unnamed US officials. |
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|>Politico Europe also reported on Tuesday that an official in Kyiv said |
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|a "relatively small" number of Russian units were withdrawn to respond |
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|to the incursion in Kursk. US officials told the Journal it was still |
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|unclear how many troops Russia was pulling back from Ukraine. |
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|https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-withdraws-some-troops-from- |
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|u/Canop - 1 month |
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|The real news is probably that they don't feel the need to pull out |
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|more of them, especially not the troops engaged on the Donetsk front. |
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|They can't afford to pull them. Doesn't mean pulling them from |
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|somewhere else won't create an opportunity for UA. It's too early |
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|to tell. If UA breaks through in Kursk, they might have to pull |
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|more. We'll see. |
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|u/C0wabungaaa - 1 month |
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|I think the biggest question is whether Ukraine has enough troops |
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|to fuel a push towards the biggest prizes in southern Kursk |
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|without compromising other fronts. It seems to be the most |
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|recurring topic in expert interviews, at least in the one's that |
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|I've read. The word "gamble" is thrown around a lot. |
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|I think it also comes down to logistics and how easy it is to |
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|transfer troops from each area. It’s borderline impossible to safely |
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|move thousands from Donetsk, but you can get a few from Kharkiv or |
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|anywhere South. |
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|Pulling from the front would led to collapse, they would be moving |
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|reserves. Which give Ukrainian opportunity to exploit weak points. |
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|The troops on Donetsk front, either on the line or in reserve must |
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|be tired from the months of offensive. They need to rotate out to |
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|rest and reconstitute. Racing them to another front to fight hastily |
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|organized counter offensive would not be ideal for effectiveness |
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|Exactly. Ukraine does not need Russia to pull troops from |
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|Donetsk, just the Russian reinforcements. This also slows the |
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|Russian offensive there. |
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|This is the most recent furthest extent of the Avdiivka advance compared |
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|to the advance in Kursk. |
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|loyWFoyXAUvnv9CAlQ&s=19 |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*According to this AFU soldier, another 30 Russians surrendered.* |
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|I've found the critique that Ukraine is wasting the brigades they've |
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|been using when they could've been used to reinforce the lines in |
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|certain places. The brigades that they're using were designed and |
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|trained by NATO for the exact type of offensive they're carrying out. |
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|Throwing them into a trench warfare is a waste of their lives and |
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|training. |
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|2023: Why they are attacking Robotyne? They should attack in |
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|unexpected places! 2024: Why they are attacking in unexpected places? |
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|They should attack Robotyne! |
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|Ukraine is wasting troops, they should be defending in Donbas, they're |
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|totally not doing anything in Kursk and Ukraine is just throwing away |
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|troops, it's not doing anything positive for the war effort, really |
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|ukraine should go back to the trenches where they can be bombed by |
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|glide bombs. Russia is not hurt by this invasion at all, but please |
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|pleaaaase go back? /pro-russian concern trolling |
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|u/JoshuaZ1 - 1 month |
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|That's likely accurate. Also, using them this way forces Russia to |
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|react, where just keeping them defensively lets Russia keep the |
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|u/Canop - 1 month |
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|Some nuance might be necessary. For example it looks like UA kept some |
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|advanced drone and jammer systems just for the incursion. And some |
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|soldiers sent towards Kursk left their position in Donetsk only a few |
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|u/Mutley1357 - 1 month |
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|agreed, Ukraine needed to make the Russians do the adjustments and |
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|shoring up their lines. Attritional warfare is to Russia's benefit, |
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|they are the ones making incremental advances the last couple months |
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|over multiple fronts. Its no longer feasible to expect Ukraine to make |
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|major advances in Donetsk, and Zaporizhzhia, or even constant |
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|incremental advances we've seen Russia do. Russia just has too many |
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|bodies annd material loaded in those areas. At this point making ANY |
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|sort of gains (including inside of Russia) for Ukraine will be |
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|beneficial to any sort of negotiated land trades that may happen in |
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|the future. Because it looking more and more in doubt that Ukraine |
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|will make major advance in occupied areas anytime soon without major |
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|u/fredrikca - 1 month |
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|Attrition is to the benefit of the defender. Ukraine needs to make |
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|sure russia continues their attacks, preferably with a lot of |
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|unprotected travelling in tight groups. Thus Kursk incursion. |
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|u/Infinaris - 1 month |
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|The Simple Truth is that the Russians are too concentrated in the east |
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|to smash through so thr best idea is to not bother attacking there but |
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|in the North where they're much weaker and Flank and Spank then from |
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|there. In addition theres no massive minefields or reinforced defences |
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|to deal with so maneuver warfare is most certainly viable. |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|Korenevo - the terrain and roads. Looking at google maps (screenshot |
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|at bottom), Korenevo is a very distinct battleground. The AFU is coming |
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|from Sudzha to the SE. They are following a major road. It is mostly |
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|open fields to the north, east, and south of Korenevo. But west of |
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|Korenevo is the Reka Seym river and that whole area seems to be river, |
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|marsh, etc. With some fields. It seems unlikely the AFU will surround |
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|Korenevo to the west - but that terrain would make supplying Korenevo |
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|from the west very hard. If the AFU links up to the Reka Seym they may |
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|be able to fight their way west along it and cut off the Russians along |
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|the border with Ukraine (which is to to the SW and west). Rylsk to the |
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|NW seems very protected by forest. It looks like it will be far easier |
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|for the AFU to turn north and seize the E-38 and try to cut off Rylsk. |
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|I have heard of Russia entrenching along the E-38 but I am not sure if |
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|that is a place they are doing it. It would make sense - they need to |
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|hold it. But the trench lines in front of it would not stop the AFU |
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|from hitting any vehicles on the E-38 with artillery. So my prediction |
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|for the AFU is - split north and south at Korenevo. Loop around the |
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|open ground to the north to cut off Korenevo from its one supply road to |
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|the NW. Head north across the open fields to close off the E-38 to |
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|Rylsk. Head SW along the Reka Seym to pocket the Russians along the |
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|Ukraine border to the SW. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F% |
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|u/thisiscotty - 1 month |
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|https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1823647895305822328?t=0DYn2f2Ew-62lS- |
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|YaCJOaA&s=19 "Ukrainian report from Sudzha, where many residents were |
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|left to deal with hunger and Russian air strikes until Ukrainian aid |
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|arrived together with journalists." |
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|u/purpleefilthh - 1 month |
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|Wonder who would win a legit referendum. |
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|u/Menithal - 1 month |
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|It will be ironic that once UA leaves the area, Russia is just gonna |
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|leave the residents as is most likely. They will overall get more |
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|aid from UA during this period than after they are "freed" from UA. |
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|u/C0wabungaaa - 1 month |
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|And also important; it shows another destroyed Russian column. It |
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|seems that Ukraine has those dialed in pretty well. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Mandatory evacuation has been announced in the whole Glushkovo district |
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|of Kursk region](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-mandatory- |
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|evacuation-has-been-announced-in-the) That was fast. Just an hour ago |
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|it was just Glushkovo town, now the entire district |
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|u/throwaway177251 - 1 month |
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|> Glushkovo district of Kursk region Population (2010 Census): [5,349 |
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|](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glushkovo,_Glushkovsky_District,_Kursk |
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|_Oblast) |
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|u/FadingStar617 - 1 month |
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|Okay, Russia assume it lost Koronevo and is worried about Rylsk, I was |
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|wondering wheter or not they,d evacuate it |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|The entire Rylsk district started voluntary evacuations 5 days ago |
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|https://x.com/intelcrab/status/1821691491133046966?s=46&t=atIpeQGVIh |
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|aOOydeLGsHZw |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Posted that photo of a Ukrainian soldier in the captured Russian command |
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|post over on interestingasfuck. My goodness, the amount of people who |
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|spew pro-RU talking points (how media is lying about Ukrainians, how |
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|they need to give up, how they have huge losses in Kursk, you know the |
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|rest) is quite notable. Russian propaganda really chewed through some |
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|people's brains so much that they are incapable of understanding that |
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|Ukraine can actually conduct successful actions in this war. Either |
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|that, or it's mass cope. Probably both |
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|u/DerivativeCapital - 1 month |
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|A lot of those posts are prob from Russia themselves. |
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|u/Deguilded - 1 month |
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|It's bots/social manipulation. |
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|u/eggyal - 1 month |
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|The smartest woman in Russia explains why Ukraine will win. |
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|https://twitter.com/jayinkyiv/status/1823654790762528934 > F: Do you |
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|know why YouTube is not working? > M: I know why. > F: Are you in |
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|Kursk? > M: I am in Kursk. > F: Are you aware that YouTube stopped |
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|working for me in Ufa? What is that??? > M: Are you aware that |
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|Ukrainian forces are stationed in our Kursk? > F: Of course, I know |
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|that. I knew this (would happen) on the first day of the war. I said: |
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|"Ukraine will win. Why the f\*ck did you go in there?" Nobody believed |
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|me. An FSB officer even argued with me. I said: "Ukraine will win!" |
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|He said: "Why? We have so many weapons!" I told him: "Ukrainians will |
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|thank us for the free scrap metal, kick our as\*es and we'll even end up |
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|paying the reparations." You see? I told him about the role of Ukraine |
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|in the Soviet Union. It was an intellectual outpost. They discovered |
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|the cosmos. Tsiolkovsky was Ukrainian. Korolev was Ukrainian. All the |
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|scientists were Ukrainian. All the great people were Ukrainian. They |
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|were the ones inventing different planes. I said: "You feline f\*ckers |
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|haven't even learned how to produce nails up till now!" "What did you |
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|get yourselves into with your gherkins instead of a d\*ck?" I said. > |
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|M: And laptis! > F: I said it directly: "You Russians need to learn how |
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|to f\*ck your women first." "They are the angriest women in the world |
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|because they have not experienced an orgasm even once in their lives |
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|from your gherkins the size of a belly button." I said: "Why are you |
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|intervening in the whole world?" Do you know how the FSB guy responded |
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|to me? "For you it's big," he says, "Ours is not small. It's just that |
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|yours is big!" > M: Gotcha. Thank you. It was good. Let's move on. |
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|> F: Hold on. Let me say something else. It turned out that I became |
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|the guilty one for Ukraine's guilt. Do you know why? They said: |
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|"You're a clairvoyant, you're a witch and you jinxed it." So it's my |
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|fault that Ukraine is winning. Here's a 'hello' for you. > M: And |
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|thank you for this! |
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|u/TheBalzy - 1 month |
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|I mean this is basically every conversation I've had with my Russian |
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|friends. |
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|u/igotfiveonit - 1 month |
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|gherkins the size of a belly button is a solid burn |
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|u/eggyal - 1 month |
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|I never realised cornichons were Russian. |
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|u/Osiris32 - 1 month |
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|I like that lady. She seems fun. |
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|u/Intensive - 1 month |
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|Old ladies don't hold back haha. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|I'm seeing pro-RU folks on social media now claiming (after panicking |
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|the other day about 1500+ of their soldiers being captured by Ukraine), |
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|that Ukraine only took around 100 POWs, and that RU forces also took |
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|around 100 Ukrainian POWs, so the exchange will be just between Kursk |
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|captives. The narratives of these bots keep resetting every single day |
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|and I am all here for it. |
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|u/StepDownTA - 1 month |
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|Stupidpol has gone remarkably silent on Ukraine, since pretty much |
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|exactly the same time that Putin released footage of himself |
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|dressing down a regional governor for daring to publicly discuss |
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|regional military issues. |
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|u/vegetable_completed - 1 month |
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|They’re also taking advantage of Ukrainian opsec by spamming videos of |
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|Russian strikes on UA positions in Kursk to try and make it look |
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|lopsided in Russia’s favour. Additionally claiming that Ukraine is |
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|trotting out the same group of POWs over and over again to inflate the |
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|numbers. I’m happy with that because it means they are very worried |
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|about controlling panic domestically. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|I've even seen them steal videos from Ukrainians (their advances, |
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|how they are shooting and attacking Russians etc.), and just |
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|stamping a pro-RU logo in the corner of the video and claiming it's |
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|"their boys beating up the enemy!" Then they post that into a tg |
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|channel, and we have pro-RU folks unknowingly cheering for |
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|Ukrainians killing Russians. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*Russian forces publish combat footage of one of their choppers |
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|destroying their own Kamaz trucks.* Obviously they were disguised |
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|Ukrainian trucks carrying a full Battle Group of Ukraimericanato neo- |
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|nazi azov spec ops. |
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|https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1823767248919478411 |
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|u/thisiscotty - 1 month |
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|[https://x.com/Maks\_NAFO\_FELLA/status/1823810012260786266](https://x.c |
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|om/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1823810012260786266) "This is how Ukrainian |
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|Heroes captured another 30 Russian soldiers in Kursk region!" |
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|u/linknewtab - 1 month |
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|Given how successful cheap "lawn mower drones" have been during this |
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|war, have western arms manufacturers started to make their own? |
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|Obviously we have much better weapons but it seems like a swarm of cheap |
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|drones to overwhelm enemy air defence would still be a useful tool for |
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|western militaries. |
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|u/munkisquisher - 1 month |
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|Yeah did you see the Australian cardboard drones? shipped to the front |
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|flat packed and can be unfolded and flown quickly |
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|https://theconversation.com/ukraine-war-australian-made-cardboard- |
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|drones-used-to-attack-russian-airfield-show-how-innovation-is-key-to- |
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|u/maximum-pickle27 - 1 month |
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|The US just buys what the defense contractors sell and the defense |
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|contractors would never sell something for so cheap in bulk. $80k for |
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|a switchblade is their idea of cheap. |
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|u/MaryBerrysDanglyBean - 1 month |
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|[Already working on it ](https://www.army.mod.uk/news-and- |
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|events/news/2022/09/british-army-carries-out-successful-swarming- |
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|drone-capability/) [Also planning on incorporating them with fighter |
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|jets](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest) |
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|u/NATO_CAPITALIST - 1 month |
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|Read his comment again, cheap lawnmower drones in quantity. |
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|u/MaryBerrysDanglyBean - 1 month |
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|[Mean like this?](https://uk.mammotion.com/products/luba-2-awd-100 |
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|0-perimeter-wire-free-robot-lawn-mower?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw |
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|q_G1BhCSARIsACc7NxpZfToqdW8OdEiM88LCZ05C2T2BBPOkI0ReoGGFLGnTAPt_hW |
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|tMKHIaAhDNEALw_wcB) |
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|u/NATO_CAPITALIST - 1 month |
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|Damn, they got outside roombas now? But yes, around that price. |
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|Switchblades are like 50k+. FPVs are like $500. We need |
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|production lines that can output tens of thousands weekly if not |
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|more. |
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|u/jdubbs84 - 1 month |
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|I guarantee the US has drone swarms already. I mean, there was a movie |
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|about that where an AI swarm targets the president, and I doubt they |
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|came up with the idea. |
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|Honestly, you could DIY the whole thing already. Budget would be |
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|crazy, you need a bit of miniaturisation, and a solid radio system |
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|to interact with a central IA (no way you could embed that in a |
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|drone). DIY ultra small drones are absolutely insane without |
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|anything fancy. So, if it's "easy", what is the response to THAT |
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|already? That's where the US is probably. The results of UK's anti- |
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|drone laser is a hint, but i think it's only a step toward something |
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|"complete". |
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|u/jdubbs84 - 1 month |
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|I think lasers /EW will start match drones in cost but it will be |
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|interesting to see what comes from that. |
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|u/Nurnmurmer - 1 month |
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|**The total combat losses of the enemy from 02.24.22 to 08.14.24 |
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|approximately amounted to:** personnel - about 594,400 (+1,240) |
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|people, tanks ‒ 8,476 (+21) units armored combat vehicles ‒ 16,402 |
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|(+17) units artillery systems - 16,821 (+57) units MLRS – 1,151 (+5) |
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|units air defense equipment ‒ 921 (+1) units aircraft – 366 (+0) units |
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|helicopters – 328 (+0) units Operational-tactical UAV – 13,548 (+57) |
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|cruise missiles ‒ 2,426 (+0) ships/boats ‒ 28 (+0) units submarines ‒ |
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|1 (+0) units automotive equipment and tank trucks - 22,710 (+61) units |
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|special equipment ‒ 2,813 (+7). The data is being verified. Beat |
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|These numbers are crazy. Over a thousand casualities every day. This |
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|excess of the US's in Vietnam or Korea. I know they technically have |
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|Whew! A hefty amount for today’s report. Thank you for continuing to |
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|share the reports with us here in the thread! |
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|https://x.com/MalcontentmentT/status/1823829383884541955 *Anywhere |
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|you're seeing Ukraine drop pictures or videos showing territorial |
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|control happened days ago, and Ukrainian forces are 5 to 10 kilometers |
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|further from that point.* *Ukrainian OPSEC has been amazing, there is |
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|Exactly. Ukraine doesn’t drop pictures until the location is no longer |
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|in shelling range, which is 5-20 kilometers back from the front lines. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Entrance to Savasleyka village of Nizhniy Novgorod region was closed |
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|>The Ministry of Defense introduces new rules for submitting and |
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|u/INVADER_BZZ - 1 month |
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|It was kinda fun seeing in the feed Apti Alaudinov saying Sudzha is not |
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|reporting from inside Sudzha. Russians adore this guy. He's soft-spoken |
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|Chechen general, with sort of calming aura about him (no, really). |
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|To give it the benefit of doubt, both could be true. I saw a report |
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|two days ago (Obviously outdated) that half the town of Sudzha is |
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|It's no longer the situation. Well, at least according to everything |
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|i've seen. No russian forces in Sudzha at all. Plenty of Ukrainians |
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|comfortable enough to be filmed by TV crew that came from Ukraine in |
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|the very middle of this small city. |
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|New thread from ChrisO\_Wiki [https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/182377 |
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|8819649503440.html](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/18237788196495034 |
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|40.html) 1/ Numerous adverts have appeared on Avito, Russia's |
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|equivalent of eBay, seeking workers to dig trenches in the Kursk region. |
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|It's likely that this is related to the rapid construction of a trench |
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|network located well behind the current front line. ⬇️ |
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|u/featherhatfelon - 1 month |
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|there is NO DANGER but we need these like fucking asap why do you keep |
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|asking about combat there is none in the area we RAPIDLY NEED MILITARY |
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|DEFENSIVE STRUCTURES WHERE WE WE HAD NONE now comrade once you are |
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|finished why not have a seat inside and admire your work. Hey i gotta |
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|go but take this gun in case of bears. For your safety comrade perk of |
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|job ya? We take care of our own in protecting the MOTHERLAND from |
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|danger. Speaking of danger... |
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|u/Not_Cleaver - 1 month |
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|During WWII my grandfather did something similar probably around the |
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|The funniest part about this is that they could ostensibly just open |
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|up another front elsewhere along the border like this and have them |
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|doing the funny to each area they drive into. |
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|u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh - 1 month |
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|> "Let's defend the honour of OUR MOTHERLAND" Should be easy, as they |
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|haven't got any. Jobs done, last one to leave switches off the lights. |
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|The bulbs, fixtures, copper, and walls were looted by retreating |
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|Russian soldiers. Sorry. |
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|If only 90 % of the money dedicated for building fortifications along |
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|the Ukrainian border had not disappeared into the pockets of |
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|politicians, oligarchs, and other war profiteers. It would be very |
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|unfortunate, if this was also the case in other segments of the |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Over 117 drones and 4 missiles attacked Russia last night. Local |
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|residents reportedly shouted, "Guys, at least shoot down one!" The |
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|Russia's Ministry of Defense claimed to have shot some down. The drones |
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|targeted the "Borisoglebsk" and "Baltimore" airfields in the Voronezh |
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|region, as well as the "Savasleyka" airfield in the Nizhny Novgorod |
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|region.](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823614165090513007) |
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|[Meanwhile, Ukraine was attacked by 23 drones and 2 missiles last |
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|night](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823613370030805201). |
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|u/Tokyogerman - 1 month |
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|I hope they hit as much as possible on those airfields and that we'll |
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|have some footage at some point. The Russian numbers look almost like |
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|they are saving up again for some big temper tantrum attack again. |
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|u/lI3g2L8nldwR7TU5O729 - 1 month |
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|It's bizar to witness how Ukraine must bring mother Russia completely |
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|to her knees to stop this madness. Even if Ukraine collapses today |
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|tomorrow, Russia paid such a high price, Russia will never recover |
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|from this. Keep going heroes, I'll keep donating... |
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|u/herc6 - 1 month |
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|>"Savasleyka" airfield in the Nizhny Novgorod region. That's 300km |
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|East of Moscow. Is it usual for strikes so deep into Russia? |
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|u/ThePoliticalFurry - 1 month |
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|Yeah, they actually hit Chkalovsky the other night and FSB buildings |
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|INSIDE Moscow have been hit in the past |
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|Yep, as far as St. Petersburg |
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|So 4 times as many drones flying east as flying west. Is this a first? |
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|u/A_Sinclaire - 1 month |
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|Ukraine using more long range drones than Russia has been a thing |
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|last month already. Though not to this extend. >For the first |
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|time, Ukraine is launching more long-range drone attacks than |
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|Russia. Published figures suggest that Russia sent 426 Shahed-type |
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|drones into Ukraine in July. Over the same period Ukraine hit back |
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|with over 520 drones. [Source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidha |
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|mbling/2024/08/01/ukraine-launched-more-long-range-attack-drones- |
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|than-russia-in-july/) |
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|u/XXendra56 - 1 month |
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|Dark Brandon was trolling Putin when he said today - Putin has a dilemma |
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|in Kursk. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[According to Russian reports, Ukrainian forward units managed to reach |
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|Krasnooktyabr'sko, north west of Snagost’. The probability of AFU |
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|controlling the unhabitated fields north east of Snagost up to the |
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|highway near Korenevo, becomes more likely by the |
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|u/Louisvanderwright - 1 month |
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|If this is true and they hold their position, then Ukraine has secured |
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|their left flank on the Reka Seym, something that was subject of |
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|speculation as one of their objectives when the news of this operation |
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|first started leaking out. That is huge because it means they can |
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|now turn the majority of their attention to advancing North and then |
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|East following the river. Ultimately they would also advance West and |
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|liquidate all Russian territory South of the Reka Seym as well. Theres |
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|no bridges for 10+ miles upstream and downstream of Krasnooktyabr'sko. |
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|That's a huge natural fortification especially considering the river |
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|lies in decent little valley giving the Ukrainians the high ground on |
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|any attempt to cross. |
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|Russia really be out here naming villages like bad fantasy writers |
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|Krasnooktyabr’sko is pretty fun to say though. I would 100% name a |
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|D&D town Krasnook. |
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|it means red (krasno) october (oktyabr) with -sko being an ending |
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|typical for place names. I don't really know Russian, but with |
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|this "3 days operation" I had time to pick up on things. |
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|Sudza silly thing to say. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|Day 8 of the Kursk incursion and surprisingly enough, Russia still |
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|hasn’t tried their usual mass missile tantrum strikes on random civilian |
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|targets. Think they finally realized that it only pisses the Ukrainians |
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|Maybe not mass but still tantrum strikes against civilians in |
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|retaliation for military losses, [2 deaths and 13 more wounded near |
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|Kyiv a few days ago](https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240811-two- |
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|killed-in-kyiv-region-including-four-year-old-boy-in-russian-attacks). |
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|They need to make those missiles first, or buy more from NK. |
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|They’re expanding them up north to try and hit supply lines in Sumy |
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|to no avail. The UA has taken so much land they have their pick of |
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|roads and chances are they’ll probably build more roads to confuse |
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|Was just about to say this. I saw a graphic from some think |
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|tank in Europe a few months ago that showed Russia has burned |
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|through nearly 2/3 of their financial reserves. By now they must be |
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|at a point where they must choose what is worth spending on, and |
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|since their recruitment keeps offering more and more money for |
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|volunteers it seems they think meat grinding beats missile tantrums. |
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|u/uryuishida - 1 month |
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|Yeah. Ukraine should be given the green light to blow up factories |
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|I wish this was the case or they were running short, but I am |
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|concerned they are once again stockpiling for a major attack. They |
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|always throw their tantrums. |
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|Maybe they actually ran out |
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|Iran has enough missiles. If anything it's the other way around, |
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|there have been reports that Iran sold hundreds of close range |
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|Jinxed it. :( Odessa, Kherson. And looks like attack towards Kyiv. |
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|Hopefully AA works their magic. |
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|stock pile and plan a decent attack. Right now Russia is on the back |
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|foot and scrambling - less than ideal to launch a coordinated missile |
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|strike. They will surely try again, but they will need to get their |
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|footing again first. |
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|well there was a bigger shahed wave initially but no followups ... |
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|which is strange (then again i am no expert but previously big drone |
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|waves usually were followed through with missile attacks) if i were |
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|to speculate i would say that the iran deal may be less final than the |
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|media speculated. it's not like irans leadership hasn't backtracked |
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|previously when put under pressure ... and so far at least we see |
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|russia using predominatly glide bombs even in the kursk area. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|I don’t number too good sir |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russian Telegram channels: reportedly FSB director Bortnikov said to |
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|Putin Russia should assassinate Ukrainian blogger who are running |
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|funding campaigns for Ukrainian |
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|military](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-russian-telegram- |
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|channels-reportedly-fsb-director) Yes, that will truly help |
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|u/Logical_Welder3467 - 1 month |
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|I need to see a video of Putin reaction to this suggestion. He must |
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|be facepalming so hard that FSB seem to have taken some stupid pill |
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|Seriously, why should we think we have an idea what Putin was told by |
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|Bortnikov ? What is the credible source for that ? *("Russian |
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|What red lines are left to be crossed? |
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|u/Cortical - 1 month |
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|direct Western military involvement. very unlikely to bed crossed |
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|u/MarkRclim - 1 month |
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|Theoretically nuclear-capable western weapons lobbed over the border? |
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|I read some stuff on nuclear doctrine and one reason you avoid |
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|surprising people e.g. with ballistics is that the pressure might make |
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|them nuke you back to be safe. (That sounds dumb to me. Ukraine isn't |
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|going to strap a nuclear warhead to an ATACMS. The whole argument is |
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|stupid and Biden needs to stop this stupid aspect of his policy) |
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|> one reason you avoid surprising people e.g. with ballistics is |
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|that the pressure might make them nuke you back to be safe. I think |
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|that applies to longer range ballistic missiles, like ICBMs. Both |
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|Tomahawk and Kinzhal missiles can carry nuclear warheads, and Russia |
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|Gotta wait for Putin to tell us. |
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|u/Disastrous-Bus-9834 - 1 month |
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|Putin, after 10 days of Kursk catastrophe, summons Stalin’s ghost : |
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|Stalin: “What’s happened?” Putin: “Nazis are at Kursk! My army is |
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|beaten! What should I do?” Stalin: “Do like me 1943. Send best Ukrainian |
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|troops to the front, and ask the US for arms!” |
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|u/Delicious-Ganache606 - 1 month |
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|This war really revealed how much of USSR's strength came from the |
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|u/Nico198X - 1 month |
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|It really was Ukraine all along. Turns out they are the older |
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|brother in this relationship, not Russia. |
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|u/Opaque_Cypher - 1 month |
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|Given the respective ages of Kyiv and Moscow, Ukraine always has |
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|been the older brother no matter how Putin wants to lie about |
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|history. |
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|u/Bullymongodoggo - 1 month |
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|It’s a text book example of how to tank your nation when you had so |
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|many other things going for you, like all that natural gas. Russia |
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|could have been a real leader in Europe but they let their drunken |
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|hubris get the better of them. Fuck em. |
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|u/ptcalfit - 1 month |
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|https://www.weaponstoukraine.com/kampane/thermonator Let's help finish |
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|up this ongoing crowdfund for a 100-unit squadron of thermal vision |
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|drones. These help with supporting night operations as well as providing |
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|real-time intelligence on Russian troop movements across a wide area of |
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|the front line, both day and night. That's for defense (and offense |
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|support). For offensive air assault drones, you can support those |
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|initiatives through this project: https://pullstrons.okko.ua/en |
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|u/stirly80 - 1 month |
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|The Ukrainian Armed Forces offensive operation in the Kursk region has |
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|shown that the red lines apparently no longer exist, a former US Army |
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|Commander in Europe Ben Hodges suggests in an interview with DW. https: |
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|//x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1823803025296617512?t=ht2g6hYyW80sD2hp2E0 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[New Andrew Perpetua losses |
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|list](https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1823709816855896490) 81 RU vs |
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|37 UA Slightly higher than usual UA losses, since they are on |
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|offensive. So many surveillance losses too 13 RU vs 6 UA |
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|u/MorienWynter - 1 month |
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|4 to 1 ratio on tanks though. 6 to 1 on IFV's. That's incredible |
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|considering Ukraine is attacking. |
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|u/Glxblt76 - 1 month |
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|Russia is still attacking on Donestk. They haven't pulled any of |
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|their attacking forces from the frontline. Both forces are attacking |
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|in fact. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Large Russian equipment and personnel losses today. At [Kurakhove |
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|](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823744524029722867)(southern |
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|Donetsk), and [Lyptsi |
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|Kharkiv) |
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|u/Cogitoergosumus - 1 month |
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|is how much it degrades the pilots as well, even if they don't hit the |
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|airframes. Russia typically scrambles as many of the airframes into the |
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|air during these attacks as they can. If these pilots are up all night |
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|doing those tasks they're all the more unready the following day to |
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|sortie for CAS. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Mandatory evacuation announced in Glushkovo of Kursk |
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|region](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-mandatory-evacuation- |
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|announced-in-glushkovo-village) About time lol, they would've been |
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|encircled otherwise |
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|u/FadingStar617 - 1 month |
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|Does that mean that Russia will abandon the border trenches in that |
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|region too, to save the manpower commited in there? I mean, they |
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|clearly assume ukraine gonna encircle the whole area. |
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|u/Wermys - 1 month |
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|They should. Those soldiers are not going to be effective being |
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|cutoff and Ukraine isn't going go digging after them with winter |
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|coming fairly soon. If they are evacced you setup a blocking force |
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|with body bags ready for when they freeze to death. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russian Avdiivka/Ocheretyne advance this year placed on top of the |
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|Kursk pocket](https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1823708864979853536/ph |
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|oto/1). To think how many tens of thousands of Russians died to acquire |
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|that, how much equipment was lost... and Ukraine took more land than |
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|that in a week and with minimal losses. |
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|u/XXendra56 - 1 month |
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|Ukraine land is very expensive while Russia appears to be quite cheap |
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|u/forvirradsvensk - 1 month |
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|Same for lives. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Decided to hop on over to that pro-RU report sub... Looks like pro-RU |
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|folks are back in charge and posting so many purported videos of |
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|Ukrainian losses... the thing is, if you take a closer look, they are |
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|basically reposting the same destroyed BTR, same KIA Ukrainians, and |
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|same POWs but with photos from several different angles pretending like |
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|it's all new stuff. Ran across the same things like 3-5 times The |
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|desperation is uncanny |
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|u/AskALettuce - 1 month |
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|Completely disagree. The desperation is, in fact, canny. |
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|u/Joezev98 - 1 month |
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|It's an absolute shame that participating in that sub gets you |
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|instantly banned from several others. Otherwise I would happily |
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|participate in trolling the pro-RU users there. |
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|u/Sorlic - 1 month |
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|You could always make a secondary account for that purpose. |
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|u/DillBagner - 1 month |
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|I looked at some Russian state propaganda outlets the other day, and |
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|they're all pretty much saying Ukraine failed and controls nothing. |
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|u/eggyal - 1 month |
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|I'm sure they'd still be saying the same thing if tanks entered Red |
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|Square. |
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|u/M795 - 1 month |
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|> Held a meeting with the U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European |
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|and Eurasian Affairs @StateEUR, who is visiting our country. We |
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|discussed the current situation on the battlefield and the status of |
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|defense agreements between Ukraine and the United States. |
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|https://x.com/AndriyYermak/status/1823650582604726319 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Ukrainians hoist a flag in Vnezapnoye, south of |
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|Snagost](https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1823765634473181192) |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|*GeoConfirmed UKR.* *Ukrainian soldier removed Russian flag from |
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|community centre building in Liubimovka.* (Not new advance, just video) |
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|https://x.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1823773852243042363 |
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|u/Cogitoergosumus - 1 month |
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|My best guess now that Russia is evacuating Glushkovo is that everything |
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|south of the Reka Seym is going to be falling into Ukrainian hands |
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|without a ton of fuss. Only three bridges appear to be crossing points |
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|within the region and it appears that Russian's main fortification line |
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|runs long said river. Wouldn't take much to trap those forces in that |
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|pocket with just three bridges over the river. |
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|u/The_Sadcowboy - 1 month |
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|Isn't NPP south from the river? I don't think Russians will give it |
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|u/Cogitoergosumus - 1 month |
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|you're looking way down the river, the Glushkovo district borders |
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|Ukraine. |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|If Russia care about its troops that would certainly be the case. As |
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|is, would taking that territory significantly help ukraine supply |
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|lines? I don't think so. Pulling out the troops to hold rylsk |
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|would make sense if Russia is short on troops. |
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|u/Cogitoergosumus - 1 month |
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|It shouldn't be a priority, but it would be an easy defensible land |
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|grab that Russia would struggle to gain back via Counter attack. |
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|Tetkino is also the terminus to a now unused rail line that could be |
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|reestablished. Basically grabbing it all but guarantee's they |
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|wouldn't need to worry about that flank. |
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|Ukraine deals blow to Putin’s narrative with Kursk offensive - The Hill |
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|>Putin claims Ukraine trying to 'sow discord' in Russia with offensive |
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|into Kursk region >Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reported |
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|Tuesday that 74 settlements have been taken in Kursk. >Russian |
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|officials have said 180,000 people are evacuating from Kursk, which has |
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|been in a state of emergency since the Aug. 6 offensive. Putin has |
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|tasked the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Russian national guard |
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|and the military with restoring order to Kursk. >“This war has left |
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|Russia’s borders weak, the army engaged in Ukraine and not immediately |
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|available to defend border regions, and FSB border troops not |
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|supported,” said Dara Massicot, a senior fellow in the Russia and |
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|Eurasia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, in a |
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|thread on the social platform X. “The Russian system’s instinct will be |
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|to overcorrect and swing harshly at Kursk.” >Putin on Monday vowed a |
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|“strong response” as he referred to the Kursk attack as a plot to |
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|“create discord and division within our society, to instill fear, and to |
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|undermine the unity and cohesion of the Russian people.” |
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|u/postusa2 - 1 month |
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|Sort of half the picture. The biggest part of the narrative that the |
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|Kursk operation exposes is that Putin has run this entire war on the |
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|premise Ukraine is an existential threat..... yet his border is was |
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|left totally unguarded. He doesn't believe his own lies. Not only |
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|that, it is perfectly clear that he expected NATO to hold Ukraine |
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|back. German lawmakers who hold back Taurus, or US officials putting |
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|limits on HIMARS should look at this and realize they are part of |
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|Putin's defence plan. That's what has allowed this war to continue |
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|900+ days. Putin can act like Russia is a different dimension to stage |
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|his war with no consequence other than the casualties who mean nothing |
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|to him. |
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|> ...as he referred to the Kursk attack as a plot to “create discord |
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|and division within our society, to instill fear, and to undermine the |
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|unity and cohesion of the Russian people.” Great job Ukraine, keep |
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|it up! 🇺🇦 |
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|u/BujuBad - 1 month |
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|If Putin doesn't like it, all he needs to do is gtfo of Ukraine. |
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|u/TotallyNauticalDude - 1 month |
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|discovery of hole cut in fence. (https://www.dw.com/en/german-military- |
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|base-on-lockdown-after-suspected-sabotage/a-69935608) |
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|[Damage at Borisoglebsk airfield confirmed by satellite images by Planet |
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|Labs, obtained by cxemu, Project of the Radio Free Europe/Radio |
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|Liberty](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-damage-at-borisoglebsk- |
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|airfield-confirmed-by-satellite) |
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|[Russian Ministry of defense reports clashes with Ukrainian military at |
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|Skrylevka, Levshynki, Semenovka, Alekseevskiy, Kasmyshny and Martynovka |
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|of Kursk region](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-russian- |
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|ministry-of-defense-reports-clashes-with) >Levshynki Big if true. |
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|~~That would mean Russia is in big trouble, as that is 36 km away from |
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|the border, the deepest Ukraine has been thus far.~~ Edit: Looks like |
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|LiveUA made a mistake but has now corrected it, there is Levshynki and |
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|Levshinka, both in Lgov raion. Levshynki is closer to the Ukrainian |
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|pocket (27 km from the border), but they initially marked Levshinka. |
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|Still, it's an advance, but a smaller one |
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|u/helm - 1 month |
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|Levshinka towards Lgov. Makes sense. |
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|Yes, getting Lgov or just the road from Lgov to Korenovo would cause |
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|a massive shift in the fighting. |
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|u/thesouphasgonecold - 1 month |
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|The main target of Russia's information warfare is its own population: |
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|An acquaitance, who is a Russian citizen living in Russia, has told me, |
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|that there there are reports of Poland hitting **Kaliningrad**. |
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|It was a reading comprehension problem. Poland yesterday trained and |
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|whole 40 km from the border. News in Russia made confusing headlines |
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|and social media hysteria didn't help either. |
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|u/redredgreengreen1 - 1 month |
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|God, I think we might be witnessing the birth of a conspiracy theory |
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|in real-time period, Because it's gonna be a hell of a job |
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|convincing anyone who heard that it wasn't true if they don't get |
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|u/Spo-dee-O-dee - 1 month |
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|Good luck with that if it begins to take hold. I was talking with |
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|a Russian on another sub earlier tonight. I've had more |
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|productive conversations talking to crazy homeless people. It was |
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|like talking to someone from an alternate reality. |
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|u/dkuznetsov - 1 month |
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|Poland should do it more. Keep some Russian troops tied in there. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Video showing one of the drones hit Savasleika |
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|airfield](https://liveuamap.com/en/2024/14-august-video-showing-one-of- |
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|the-drones-hit-savasleika) (lower your volume, Russians are screaming |
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|loudly) |
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|u/Critical_Freedom_738 - 1 month |
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|So when I click on these links in the map nothing happens…what am I |
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|doing wrong? On mobile btw |
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|u/Critical_Freedom_738 - 1 month |
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|Thank you! |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Supposedly UA in Vnezapnoe, South of Korenevo and Snagost. (alt source) |
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|https://twitter.com/Teoyaomiquu/status/1823768002174873815 |
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|u/bobpsycho100 - 1 month |
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|That would be quite nice. Fully controlling the road from the border |
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|to snagost and then koronevo would improve logistics |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Extreme copium on Russian propaganda tv |
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|https://x.com/NatalkaKyiv/status/1823534703103652256 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Alaudinov needs to lie so that he can save himself. A bunch of |
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|Russians put a great deal of blame on him and his Akhmat unit as that |
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|border near Sudzha was there original post, but they ran away and are |
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|now hiding in the forests near Giri |
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|u/sjajsn - 1 month |
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|Pretty much zero of the area Ukraine is attacking would be mined right? |
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|Makes operations much easier than eastern Ukraine |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|Yep. And actually, Ukraine is now remotely mining certain areas, via |
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|artillery shells that dispense land mines. So it's actually Russia |
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|hitting minefields. |
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|Correct. |
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|Russia might also be less likely to flatten cities there. |
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|u/AnticitizenPrime - 1 month |
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|I really wish the live feed could be replaced by anything other than |
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|Twitter, or at least not be exclusive to it. Why can't any of the |
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|content of the live feed be direct links to actual journalistic |
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|articles, instead of some tweet? |
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|u/--ThirdEye-- - 1 month |
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|Agreed, even before Twitter became not twitter I fucking hated it for |
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|this reason - mostly for sports. I'd see a headline and click on it |
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|only to realize the content is literally what I read before clicking. |
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|Now posting a twitter link guarantees I won't click it. |
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|u/canadaduane - 1 month |
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|Agreed. It takes FOREVER to load. One. At. A. Time. Sometimes 20 to 30 |
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|seconds per Tweet. (and I have google fiber!) |
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|u/AnticitizenPrime - 1 month |
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|I'm more concerned about Twitter being a poisoned platform due to |
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|ownership and recent behavior of said owner, but yeah, it sucks in |
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|technical terms as well. It's concerning to me that the feed ONLY |
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|consists of Twitter links. What if there's important stuff reported |
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|but it's not on Twitter? Does that news just never make it here? I |
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|just don't get how we ended up with an exclusively Twitter-based |
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|framework for the live feed here. |
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|u/kaukamieli - 1 month |
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|That's why you read the comments too. :p |
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|u/GoldCoinDonation - 1 month |
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|it's because the live thread thing only works with twitter. It's an |
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|almost completely forgotten 'feature' that's barely supported by |
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|reddit anymore. |
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|u/AnticitizenPrime - 1 month |
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|I suppose what I'm asking is for that to not be the case anymore. |
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|u/Dhghomon - 1 month |
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|How about Threads? Lots of people use it now and plenty of the Twitter |
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|accounts posted here use it too. E.g. |
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|https://www.threads.net/@thestudyofwar/post/C-nYcKFufPg/ |
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|u/AnticitizenPrime - 1 month |
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|I don't see why it's exclusive to a single platform at all. Why |
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|can't there be a link to an actual article that is published by a |
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|real journalistic platform? Why does it HAVE to be a Twitter link, |
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|even if the only thing in that Twitter link is just itself a link to |
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|an article? Why are we driving traffic to Twitter exclusively? |
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|u/b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh - 1 month |
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|Just about the only thing I wouldn't want to replace Twitter with is |
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|Meta. I'd consider two tin cans and a piece of string before getting |
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|that desperate for news. |
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|u/p251 - 1 month |
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|Maybe you missed the musk groveling at trump, Putin’s lap dog |
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|yesterday. As much as it might sound edgy to hate in meta, Elon is |
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|as much of a Russian asset as trump. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[More POWs in |
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|Kursk](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823749746931937585) |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[According to Russian channels, the AFU has taken control over |
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|Mykhailovka, south of Martynovka. This village was considered a gray |
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|zone for a while since information didn’t |
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|appear.](https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1823767103666839688) |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Pro-RU folks are also trying to spin (for whatever reason), [that the |
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|press report recorded in Sudzha today |
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|](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=203aM726_aQ)by the Ukrainian press was |
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|actually recorded in Sumy. You can find it on tg channels and the pro-RU |
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|sub. They drew some squares on the image which make no sense, and with |
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|it they want to point out that it's not what it seems and is fake |
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|propaganda. Anyhow and anyway, you can find the school in the video |
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|report on [Google street view](https://www.google.com/maps/@51.1897489,3 |
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|5.2750652,3a,75y,322.01h,87.44t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMwbG-f3uN6025z |
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|6-ya49.93492091634238-ro0-fo100!7i5376!8i2688?coh=205410&entry=ttu), and |
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|it is in central Sudzha. |
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|u/ced_rdrr - 1 month |
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|The report was commented live by the journalist talking to the studio. |
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|At the time she was indeed in Sumy, but while she was talking they |
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|showed the recordings from the Sudzha she and her crew took earlier. |
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|So, pro-RU folks are both right and wrong. Yes, she filmed at Sudzha |
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|and yes she was back in Sumy doing the live. They just prefer to tell |
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|half of the truth. |
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|u/LeftLane4PassingOnly - 1 month |
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|This is consistent with the fact that most pro-RU don't don't know |
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|right from wrong. |
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|u/Willythechilly - 1 month |
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|They don't know much of anything given their stupid opinions I |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Yeah that's what I figured too. Yet they keep insisting all of it |
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|was in Sumy lol |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Rumors continue to circulate about Ukrainian helicopter landings behind |
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|the Russian defenses in L'gov. |
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|https://x.com/WarInUkraineYet/status/1823821312546246849 |
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|I've seen the video about it ( you can find it earlier in the thread), |
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|it REALLY look like old training footage. It'd be great if true...but |
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|I'm doubtful. So...nah, not buying it. |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|This all seems to be based on one random Telegram post and a video |
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|that is clearly not of an actual combat operation. As far as I can |
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|tell there is no basis whatsoever to actually believe these claims. |
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|Even if they did, it's certainly not a full brigade like the link |
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|claims. Even an understrength air mobile brigade would be 1,000 men. |
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|An Mi-8 can carry 24 men, so they would have needed 42 helicopters |
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|That being said. if russia think it's true and rush assets to |
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|protect against a nonexistent operation, still, a plus. |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|I don't buy it. How would you even resupply those guys once they're |
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|there and the threat is know from Russia? They can send a couple guys |
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|with manpads to the area and take out any resupplies. |
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|One would assume this would be done in tandem with an armored thrust |
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|moving North. I don't buy it either, but it's still a possibility. |
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|u/Logical_Welder3467 - 1 month |
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|Looking at the straight line trench that are being dug hastily, one |
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|shell go in and everyone is KIA |
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|it's illegal in Russia to be a gay trench |
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|Note the flamboyant curvature of the gay trench, a significant |
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|evolutionary advantage... |
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|If nothing else, Russians are at least efficient in their meat grinder |
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|tactics. |
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|u/machopsychologist - 1 month |
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|In the end it all comes down to mines which are the most effective |
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|against equipment poor Ukraine. Most likely they will avoid mining |
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|roads too heavily (or ... maybe not, as if russia cares about |
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|civilians amirite) so if Ukraine sticks to the roads they may be able |
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|to progress slowly... and hope there isn't too much concentration of |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Grandma in Kursk insults Putin. Many local residents perfectly remember |
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|their native Ukrainian language, speak it well, hate Putin and support |
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|Ukraine.](https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1823696991060189192) |
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|Looking at the map, if UA captures Korenevo, everything to the West of |
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|the pocket, all the way back to the Ukranian border is protected by the |
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|Speaking of Korenevo, [there might be some very good |
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|news](https://x.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1823662938533556460)... but |
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|Sudzha-Korenevo-Rylsk line. Man can dream. |
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|u/machopsychologist - 1 month |
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|confirmed by Ukraine: [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine- |
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|&pc=U531&cvid=e07c2c1e9db24fb1885bc516e40a9c26&ei=12](https://www.msn.co |
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|e40a9c26&ei=12) Edit: Here's a Ukrainian Pravda article on it: [https:/ |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Interesting how it went unreported. Just saw one post on Twitter |
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|saying it happened on August 12th and that the plane was shot down by |
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|u/raresaturn - 1 month |
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|u/socialistrob - 1 month |
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|Yes and they've been doing it for awhile. In the parts of the Donbas |
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|that were occupied in 2014 and became the so called "DNR and LPR" |
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|Ukrainian men under 65 were forcibly conscripted in mass and used as |
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|cannon fodder early in the war. What's new is that Russia is |
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|presumably thinking of trying this in areas that they just captured in |
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|2022. Gang pressing reluctant people into fighting wars is actually |
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|a very old trick and it's one that has long and infamous history in |
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|Russia. Typically when this happens there's not a whole lot that can |
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|their officers it would be automatic death for them as well. |
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|Surrendering is often much easier said than done especially in an |
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|u/SoulessHermit - 1 month |
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|They already kinda do that, they have used captured Ukrainian POWs |
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|and try to force enlisted Ukrainians in occupied areas to fight for |
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|u/--ThirdEye-- - 1 month |
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|Do the guns work? I'd imagine these POWs are at the very front I |
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|can't see how the Russians wouldn't get shot in the back any other |
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|u/SoulessHermit - 1 month |
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|I recall from the reports, POWs are just dressed in Russian |
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|uniform and used as cannon folder to expose Ukrainian artillery |
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|positions. Which is quite sickening. |
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|https://kyivindependent.com/russian-state-media-ukrainian-pows- |
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|will-fight-for-russia-in-ukraine/ |
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|You assume they will be handed guns. Russians could just force |
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|them to "walk forward until you step on a mine or draw fire" and |
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|that's their part in the war. |
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|u/RickyWinterborn-1080 - 1 month |
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|If true, sounds unwise but I am not a war scientist. |
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|u/MarkRclim - 1 month |
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|Claimed new T-80 captured by Ukraine in Kursk. Some confusion over |
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|whether it's the same as a previous one, but reliable source seems |
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|convinced it *is* additional. I desperately hope for more mistakes by |
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|Russia. Ukraine needs more armour donations. |
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|https://x.com/moklasen/status/1823800258910150943 (post is a thread, |
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|same author later says in a response "update: some more knowledgeable |
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|people tell me this is a *new* captured tank") |
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|u/Acceptable-Pin2939 - 1 month |
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|So Russia are building their defensive line along the E38 which is also |
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|the MSR. That is generally considered to be a shit idea. As you |
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|can't resupply, rotate (lol) forces when your opponent has fire control |
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|over your MSR. |
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|u/search_facility - 1 month |
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|<we are lucky they so fucking stupid.jpg> moment :) |
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|u/TheBalzy - 1 month |
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|Some guys and girls at the pentagon are giddy with excitement watching |
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|the Russians make so many stupid mistakes. The US investment in |
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|helping Ukraine defend itself is like 1000-fold. |
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|u/Deguilded - 1 month |
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|One half of the administration is watching this clusterfuck with a |
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|sloppy smile in the corner, the other half have locked themselves in |
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|the shower hoping the ceramic tiles will save them from the imagined |
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|nuclear blast. |
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|u/Intensive - 1 month |
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|Russia is going to have a fun time running their usual mantra of, |
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|"just invade and take everything you want from the local people". |
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|u/MarkRclim - 1 month |
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|I'm not getting too excited yet. It makes sense to dig defences |
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|further back, that doesn't stop you pushing further forwards. If |
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|Ukraine had just done this more behind Avdiivka things would be loads |
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|better. |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|Also, it's a highway that leads directly to Ukraine. So Ukraine can |
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|attempt to breach the border in that area and run up the whole line. |
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|u/SeasOfBlood - 1 month |
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|Is it possible that Ukraine's incursion into Russian territory could |
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|inspire some sort of internal removal of Putin and an end to the war? It |
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|is my understanding that a key of his public image is that he has given |
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|Russia stability, but with their international reputation tarnished and |
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|now Russia itself being breached by Ukrainian forces, isn't that entire |
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|image eroded? I am ignorant as to Russian internal politics, but just to |
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|an outside perspective this makes the Putin regime look extremely weak, |
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|and I wonder how it's being perceived by the common folk and Putin's own |
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|inner circle. |
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|u/Carasind - 1 month |
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|Yesterday, Maksim Katz [released a |
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|video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA8frACWpeg) (english subtitles |
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|available) where he discussed the public reaction to the news of the |
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|Kursk invasion. The response was largely apathetic, with many adopting |
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|a 'not our problem' attitude. This reflects how, in recent years, |
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|Russians have been conditioned to disengage from such issues to avoid |
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|potential trouble. So if something happens it will likely happen |
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|because of Putin's internal circles. |
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|u/Cortical - 1 month |
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|directly contradicting people who earlier claimed that Ukraine |
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|attacking Russia proper would drive lots of Russians to sign up for |
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|the military to defend Russia. The reality is that they don't care. |
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|u/Kageru - 1 month |
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|No one knows. The Russian people are somewhere between deluded, |
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|apathetic and suppressed. There's not going to be polling, free media |
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|or protests to let us gauge the mood of the Russian people. There may |
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|be a breaking point at which latent dissatisfaction erupts into |
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|action. But no one knows if or when that might happen. Which is a |
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|great shame as it would likely end this pointless war, though it would |
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|create a massive power vacuum in Russia. |
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|u/serafinawriter - 1 month |
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|From my Russian perspective, I agree there will be no popular |
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|uprising - too much apathy as you say. I think it's more likely that |
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|the pro-war and traditionally pro-Putin people would be more likely |
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|to take action at Putin's perceived failures, but I think that ship |
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|sailed too with Prigozhin. However, I don't think there will be a |
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|power vacuum as long as the FSB are in charge, especially |
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|considering that ousting Putin could likely only come from within |
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|that faction. Nikolai Patrushev's son Dmitri has already been |
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|speculated as a potential replacement. He has the credentials |
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|(Petersburger, FSB academy, a degree in an adjacent related field, |
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|and he's spent the last decade in various administrative roles). I |
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|think if the FSB elite decided to remove Putin, it is exactly |
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|*because* they see Putin as a threat to their continued position of |
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|power, and I expect the transition would be fairly smooth. Mishustin |
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|would step in as a rubber stamp under their influence, and meanwhile |
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|they start building up Dmitri Patrushev (or someone else) as the |
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|replacement. They still control the media, and they won't let any |
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|opposition take shape. Come the next election, voters would only |
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|have one choice. Also I wouldn't be surprised if on the surface they |
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|take a remorseful tone, blame the war on Putin (good opportunity to |
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|purge any old Putin-loyalists - goodbye Medvedev), and try to claw |
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|back some stability in the economy. At that point, there's no |
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|telling how successful they would be. To remove sanctions and |
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|normalize the economy, they'll really have to agree to Ukraine's |
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|fundamental right to its 1991 territory and the right to secure its |
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|own defence partnerships, and if Nikolai Patrushev still has sway, |
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|he will be unwilling to go that far, as he is as much an architect |
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|of this war as Putin was. |
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|u/sim_pl - 1 month |
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|This is the correct answer. People on Reddit seem to think that |
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|since we all echo the same activist remarks and actually commit |
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|mental energy towards things like, you know, maintaining freedom and |
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|civil liberty, that everyone else must too. Unfortunately, in a way |
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|similar to why a huge number of US people don't vote, an even |
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|greater majority of Russians just don't care - through either |
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|personal circumstance ("I can't change anything, why bother") or |
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|political culture ("If I speak out, I'll be arrested, and my family |
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|depends on me.") For real political unrest, it would take a |
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|massive disaster - e.g., Ukraine retaking all lost territory |
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|including Crimea plus destruction of Kerch bridge, or, complete |
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|failure of Russian economy coupled with some sort of food crisis |
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|(drought, late freeze, etc.) that would lead to massive price |
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|increase of locally produced staple foods. Otherwise, people are |
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|fed, have a job, a place to live, and enough other day-to-day |
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|distractions that the conflict doesn't matter to them. |
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|u/machopsychologist - 1 month |
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|A prerequisite of that scenario is that the situation gets so bad and |
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|Putin is forced to utilise Rosgvardia units (which are like internal |
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|suppression units). It's possible but at this point still unlikely. |
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|u/Oh_ffs_seriously - 1 month |
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|Nope. |
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|u/search_facility - 1 month |
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|"palace coup" is always on table, this is deeply rooted in russian |
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|history. Especially when everyone realizing that "akella promahnulsa" |
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|(russian proverb for hard-failed leadership). So it is possible, and |
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|signs of tension can be seen from time to time, imho. Although such |
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|things are unpredictable by their nature |
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|u/azag11 - 1 month |
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|it's possible, but not by general population. There maybe come a |
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|moment when his inner circle will realize that Putin is more danger to |
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|their lives and wealth, that some political instability. This |
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|already happened to Prigozhin. This may happen to Shoigu or to some |
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|other high ranking general. |
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|u/Glxblt76 - 1 month |
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|No. He'll say that the situation is under control and Russian heroes |
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|are making the necessary sacrifices, and he'll get away with it. |
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|u/Canop - 1 month |
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|I don't think anybody would take the seat of the Czar right now: |
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|there's no obvious defeat so the new czar would appear as the one |
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|losing. And there's no way to win either. A removal would require |
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|that the defeat is large and obvious. |
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|u/CathiGray - 1 month |
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|From: girkingirkin: Moses | UAV “A turning point has arrived in the |
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|history of modern Russia. Right now it is necessary to purge the senior |
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|command staff within the Ministry of Defense, and I am not for Shoigu’s |
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|former deputies. Right now it is necessary for the whole country to |
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|unite and find like-mindedness, no matter how much the country’s |
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|leadership wants, but citizens need to know the truth, because |
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|admitting guilt and mistake is half won war. I don’t have any political |
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|ambitions, and I’m not interested in it, but it’s time to start looking |
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|at things more radically and adopting equally radical methods. There is |
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|a problem that needs to be solved as quickly as possible... And Europe |
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|should no longer exist...” |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|Russian fascist is sad that his fascist government sucks at war. |
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|Proposes purge to more efficiently prosecute war and commit additional |
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|war crimes. Color me shocked. |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|He'd best avoid windows in the near future..... |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Kinda feel like things are speeding up again. |
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|u/Cogitoergosumus - 1 month |
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|The craziest thing is Ukraine has everyone, but probably most of all |
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|the Russia, scratching their heads about what the overall plan is. I |
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|think they have Russia believing another strike is coming somewhere |
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|else, and this is just Kherson feint round two. However because of |
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|that Russia isn't taking this seriously and seemingly isn't moving |
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|around the proper amount of resources to stop it. To that end, as |
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|long as Russia isn't taking it seriously the UA is just going to hit |
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|the chaos button and continue the initial attack. |
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|u/Kevin-W - 1 month |
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|No kidding and they're not getting much resistance either. I wonder |
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|how far into Russia they'll keep going. |
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|u/cagriuluc - 1 month |
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|Ukrainian failures in Donbas are highly exaggerated as shown by this |
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|Kursk invasion. There are “problems” with manpower among Ukrainian |
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|units. I am sure there are positions open in many units of Ukraine, BUT, |
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|it is not like they cannot man their borders. They can even go on the |
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|offensive. In Donbas, Russia is losing a lot to have their gains. If |
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|Ukraine was adamant in their defence, if they like Russians said: defend |
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|here at all costs… It would not be in Ukraine’s best interests. Just |
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|giving into Russian aggression when they overcommit is much more |
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|beneficial. The land Ukraine loses is not significant. They can sustain |
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|such land losses for months and months before they are even close to |
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|losing all of Donbas. It’s a trade… I wouldn’t call these failures at |
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|all. I also think Ukraine is leaning into this narrative that they are |
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|in a very hard situation in Donbas. Don’t get me wrong, it is really a |
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|hard task to defend Donbas, BECAUSE Russia is willing to lose so much |
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|for it. The defenders there work in harsh conditions. I am not |
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|minimizing their hardships. But Ukraine could do much more to defend |
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|Donbas, they could have sent their elite units who invaded Russia, for |
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|example. They did not, it was a choice. It was a right choice. But the |
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|situation is not “very hard” in the sense that they are about to |
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|collapse, or the rate of Russian advance will improve. It is not out of |
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|control. There isn’t a situation that Ukraine cannot find men to defend |
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|Donbas, nor do they lack ammunition right now. But the narrative keeps |
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|west on their toes, gives Ukraine a more solid reason to ask for more, |
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|gives Russia the impression that if they just make these suicidal |
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|attacks for some more time they will win… They are baiting Russia! |
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|This is my very much armchair general take so feel free to attack it… |
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|This is correct. One difficulty with trench warfare is how to keep |
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|the opponents on the offensive so that you can attrit them. |
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|u/putin_my_ass - 1 month |
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|With which Russia obliges because political goals (capturing 100% of |
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|Donbass) are received from the highest level. It's absolutely the |
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|wrong way to wage a war and comes with high costs. |
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|u/paypaypayme - 1 month |
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|I agree, it would be stupid to use SPFs or expensive armor in static |
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|positions when we all know that russians rely so much on artillery. |
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|These assets are far better used in maneuver warfare, combined arms |
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|assaults, etc. No offense to the average infantryman, they have their |
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|own job to do. But it’s expected that the trench defenders will have |
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|losses due to russian artillery coordinating with drone surveillance |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|David D is showing Korenevo and maybe Tolpino captured. |
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|https://x.com/secretsqrl123/status/1823801896051859949/photo/1 - He's |
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|hit and miss though, and I'm not sure what he's basing this on. |
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|u/ComsyKKu - 1 month |
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|David d is extremely unreliable and the OSINT community doesn’t really |
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|u/Burnsy825 - 1 month |
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|If UA rolls up Belgorod in this whole effort, redrawing the line from |
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|Belitsa down toward Korocha somewhere, that would provide quite a |
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|buffer zone for Kharkiv. |
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|u/_e75 - 1 month |
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|Before they get to Belgorod wouldn’t they have entirely encircled the |
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|northern karkhiv front? That seems like a better more immediate and |
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|achievable objective. |
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|u/OrangeBird077 - 1 month |
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|They don’t necessarily have to encircle it, just target the main |
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|arteries where Russian supply lines are feeding the northern Kharkiv |
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|soldiers. If the Russian incursion force doesn’t get any ammo for a |
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|few days in a row they’re going to crumble. |
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|u/Pave_Low - 1 month |
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|OK, nobody is 'rolling up' a Russian city of 340,000 people. Ukraine |
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|took nearly a week to 'roll up' Sudzha with a population of 6,000. |
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|Russia could not capture Sumy at the pinnacle of its strength. |
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|Ukraine is not capturing any major Russian population centers. |
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|Besides, if they did how the hell would Ukraine supply and feed |
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|hundreds of thousands of Russian civilians? |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|If the UA takes Belgorod it is a massive win. They could hold |
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|Belgorod for a long time. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Ukraine in Korenevo. |
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|https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1823662938533556460 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Any reason why Putin still hasn't sacked Gerasimov? Why does he keep |
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|this incompetent fool so close? |
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|u/PrrrromotionGiven1 - 1 month |
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|Because he is loyal and that's far more important than competence in a |
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|dictatorship |
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|u/JoshuaZ1 - 1 month |
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|Loyal, and also doesn't have enough of his own power base to be a |
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|threat to Putin, so even if he was not loyal, Putin doesn't need to |
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|worry as much about him attempting a coup. |
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|u/greentea1985 - 1 month |
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|Exactly. A loyal but incompetent idiot is more useful to Putin than |
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|someone who is a competent military commander but is ambitious and |
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|gunning for the top job. Putin’s biggest fear is getting replaced as |
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|that generally means death or disgrace. |
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|u/postusa2 - 1 month |
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|If you read between the lines, his anger is actually directed at the |
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|West. He full expects NATO to hold Ukraine back, which is why after |
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|900 days and 500 000 casualties, he had an unguarded border with this |
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|"existential threat". He is literally like a spoiled toddler who is |
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|surprised he isn't getting what he wants. Gerasimov is useful because |
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|he can blame him, and if put someone competent in charge, they'd be as |
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|likely to turn on him as Prigozhin. |
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|u/Hodaka - 1 month |
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| At this point holding Ukraine back is simply enabling Russia. |
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|u/FreakySpook - 1 month |
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|Also doesn't this Ukrainian incursion show they don't even have air |
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|superiority inside their own borders? That a Ukrainian ground |
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|force can be running around inside Russia without getting smashed |
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|from the air is pretty nuts. |
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|u/Plappedudel - 1 month |
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|You think the rest of that rotten bunch is actually competent? This is |
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|a mafia state, people don't get to wear a general's uniform out of |
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|merit. |
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|u/ElectroStaticz - 1 month |
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|Shhhh "Never interrupt your enemy when they making a mistake" - |
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|Napoleon |
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|u/The_Bard - 1 month |
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|Dictators can't have competent subordinates as they are in constant |
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|fear of a coup |
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|u/INVADER_BZZ - 1 month |
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|Because Gerasimov is unpopular. When Wagner reached peak popularity |
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|(after taking Bakhmut), Prigozhin felt condident enough to march on |
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|Moscow. It's the same dilemma Stalin had with Zhukov back in the day. |
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|u/Geo_NL - 1 month |
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|Zhukov wouldn't have stopped unlike Prigozhin. Zhukov was also |
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|waaaay more popular. Prigozhin was popular in certain fringe areas |
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|and within Wagner but not within the main military branch. Zhukov |
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|had enough clout to march on Moscow and have a huge following |
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|overall. Pretty much why Stalin couldn't get rid of him. Getting rid |
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|of Prigozhin worked, because he wasn't popular enough that people |
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|would mind. |
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|u/postusa2 - 1 month |
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|Gerasimov has more in common with a dumpling than he does with |
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|Zhukov and that's like why he is staying. |
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|u/INVADER_BZZ - 1 month |
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|Exactly my point. Putin can't afford the risk of someone like |
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|Zhukov in command. |
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|u/eggyal - 1 month |
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|The last thing Putin wants is any shift in the careful balance of |
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|competing fiefdoms that ensure he's kept in office. |
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|u/Logical_Welder3467 - 1 month |
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|Gerasimov is there to be blamed, why would Putin remove him when he |
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|doing his job perfectly |
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|u/Nachtzug79 - 1 month |
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|You answered yourself - because he is incompetent. A good general |
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|could become a threat to Putin himself. |
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|u/secretlyjudging - 1 month |
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|Anybody have data on how much worse Russian conscripts are against |
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|modern battle-hardened Ukrainians? Must be really big difference |
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|training when you expect to actually fight vs doing it for show as well. |
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|u/Bdcollecter - 1 month |
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|Their was an article the other day with a captured PoW claiming they |
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|had fired a gun twice in training. Just a single bullet each time. |
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|Take it with a grain of salt though obviously |
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|u/devious_204 - 1 month |
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|But they only got 1 grain of salt, if we take that, they have |
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|nothing |
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|u/Nathan-Stubblefield - 1 month |
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|“Save the last bullet for yourself.” /s |
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|u/Acceptable-Pin2939 - 1 month |
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|To actually be prepared and trained sufficiently for a peer or near |
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|pear combined arms war takes at least a year for an infantry man. It |
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|takes even longer of you want to be command a tank troop. And even |
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|longer (4 years) if you want to operate air in these environments. |
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|This doesn't even include the C2 Staff which are at the military |
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|equivalent of a PhD. |
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|u/findingmike - 1 month |
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|Training? We don't have time for that! |
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|u/kaol - 1 month |
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|I think it's more like "we don't expect these guys to be ever used |
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|for anything, let's pocket the budget and nobody can tell the |
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|difference" this time. |
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|u/Forsaken-Action8051 - 1 month |
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|Korenovo has fallen, we are going to Lgov boys . |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Sauce? |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|There is none. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|Link? Because none of the reliable groups are stating that has |
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|happened yet. |
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|u/Ubehag_ - 1 month |
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|Reports of ukrainian helicopters landing behind enemy lines in lgov |
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|now. If this is true, Ukraine is just embarrassing russia at the |
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|moment. Sauce http://youtube.com/post/UgkxEi6vec1MmOiCdBFaVeMhM9xpFOf |
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|VseR6?si=uCbvnf4XIPozl-Ms |
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|u/FadingStar617 - 1 month |
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|Wait...I heard about this before in the thread, but the video that |
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|was showing it was EXTREMLEY sus. ( looked like footage from |
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|exercise) Are you sure were not being bambozzled right now? |
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|u/Lazar_Milgram - 1 month |
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|Pardon me. Heli…what? How the flying fuck is that possible? What |
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|the air defense doing? |
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|u/aresev6 - 1 month |
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|It's on a 3 day vacation. |
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|u/Wermys - 1 month |
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|Part of why I speculated IF that air assault happened they are |
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|making a beeline for that bridge north of there along with an |
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|armored assault south of that. |
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|u/XXendra56 - 1 month |
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|Ukraine’s one-night stand with Mother Russia is turning into a real |
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|relationship lol |
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|u/featherhatfelon - 1 month |
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|oh lala |
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|u/Njorls_Saga - 1 month |
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|Mother Russia is probably pregnant by this point. |
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|u/DennisMoves - 1 month |
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|Sorry for the vulgarity here but can butt stuff cause pregnancy? |
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|u/Njorls_Saga - 1 month |
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|I suppose if there’s a rectovaginal fistula it’s possible. |
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|u/silentcarr0t - 1 month |
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|Big time. |
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|u/SereneTryptamine - 1 month |
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|Always a risky move putting your dick in crazy |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|New DeepStateMap update. In the past 24 hours or so, Russia is |
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|confirmed to have taken some 15.7 km^(2) of Ukrainian territory in |
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|Donbass. [They've taken central and western New |
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|York](https://deepstatemap.live/en#13/48.3279522/37.8254128); [they |
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|finally managed to defeat AFU at Zhelanne, and they also took |
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|Orlivka](https://deepstatemap.live/en#13/48.2100321/37.4050140) So far, |
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|they took 133 km^(2) in these two weeks of August. 9.5 km^(2) daily |
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|average. I don't know what's happened that they have these near double |
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|digit advances ever since August 4th. Very worrisome. They took 131 |
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|km^(2) in all of April, and that was when the Ocheretyne breakthrough |
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|happened. |
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|u/Edgarfigaro123 - 1 month |
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|I hope Donbass is Napoleon's deceptive right at Austerlitz. |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|Yeah, this Kursk incursion better work, because the Donbass defenses |
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|seem awfully soft lately. |
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|u/tidbitsmisfit - 1 month |
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|Ukrainians can't compete against glide bombs, it is as simple as |
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|that |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Everything has a weak spot. So do glide bombs. It isn't some |
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|invincible weapon. It just needs to be figured out and exploited |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|Honestly, there are fairly obvious solutions (sufficient |
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|Patriot/IRIS-T batteries that they can be risked closer to the |
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|front because their loss would not be catastrophic, and/or |
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|sufficient F-16s with appropriate weapons and training to allow |
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|Ukraine to make the airspace within 50 miles of the front too |
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|dangerous for Russia to operate in), they just happen to require |
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|a lot of money, resources, and time. |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|Yes, I wish we knew what had changed there. The pace is still really |
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|slow but it has sped up. And it is continuing in spite of the |
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|invasion of Kursk. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|We know what happened. Ukraine had a lot of negative factors (some |
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|of which weren’t necessarily their fault, some that were) all hit at |
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|once causing them to lose specific areas that underpinned the |
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|defense in that part of the Eastern line. Just a few 1) Failed |
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|rotations of troops causing them to lose Ocheretyrne. 2) Delayed |
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|weapons/ammunition shipments slowing their ability to respond 3) |
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|The delayed mobilization bill & lack of prepared fortifications to |
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|fall back to after Avdiivka and the surrounding suburbs fell. |
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|Failing to listen to the military when they told them at the end of |
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|last year that they needed more troops/funds to build trenches |
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|behind the lines they expected to fall probably plays the most into |
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|why we’re seeing the Russians move so much right now. |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Yes but Avdiivka and Ocheretyne fell in February and April, and |
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|Russia still had pretty low daily advance rate of some 3.5 km2 |
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|then. But something again happened at the turn of the month that |
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|made them increase that drastically. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|It’s been brewing in the background for a while unfortunately, I |
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|don’t think there’s a real single point that kicked off this |
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|advance. Ukraine’s lines just hit the overall breaking point. |
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|u/shryne - 1 month |
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|Can someone explain or link to a good resource that explains what a |
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|russian milblogger is? |
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|u/maximum-pickle27 - 1 month |
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|Social media influencer / war journalist that has the approval to say |
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|things about the war without being given a 10 year prison sentence. |
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|Don't generally say negative things about the Russian side very often |
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|due to the risk of losing their special status. |
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|u/MorePdMlessPjM - 1 month |
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|Russian military bloggers. Think amateur journalist that document |
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|Russian military matters like the war who have connections with |
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|Russian military soldiers and officials and often go on the ground in |
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|some operations to report on their side (grayzone was recently injured |
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|when he went to the front line). The major ones have huge followings |
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|and due to the unreliability and untrustworthiness of Russian state |
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|media, often folks have relied on Russian millbloggers to better |
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|understand the war. Since Prighozins attempted mutiny (not coup, two |
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|different things) the Kremlin has either cracked down (Igor Gerkin, |
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|architect of the Donbas war) on some of these millbloggers or co-opted |
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|them willingly or unwillingly (Rybar is a infamous example) into |
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|pushing Kremlin narratives about success and the war. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Can anyone locate? |
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|https://x.com/secretsqrl123/status/1823776249795260883 |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|There is one Novoivanovka [east of Lyubimivka](https://www.google.com/ |
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|maps/place/Novoivanovka,+Kursk+Oblast,+Russia,+307818/@51.3227292,35.0 |
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|853008,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m15!1m8!3m7!1s0x4128c0333e5234fb:0x9a4239a0b |
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|69014fe!2sNovoivanovka,+Kursk+Oblast,+Russia!3b1!8m2!3d50.956978!4d35. |
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|5364763!16s%2Fg%2F1hhkzxnrj!3m5!1s0x41292fd6a859a72d:0xf424cf0a8eba3b1 |
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|2!8m2!3d51.3224203!4d35.1042225!16s%2Fg%2F1hhnqp5sd?entry=ttu). |
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|Confirmed, it's that one. Someone geolocated it in the comments there |
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|Let's hope it's the West one. (and real) |
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|u/MarkRclim - 1 month |
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|Machine translated quotes from Bakhmutskyi Demon today. He is near |
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|Chasiv Yar, so comments about elsewhere are second-hand. "According to |
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|my data, there are 111 prisoners in Kurshchyna today. There are also |
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|several in the Pokrovsky direction." [Note "today" - new??] |
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|"Pidarnyavs[russians] are crawling in the direction of Mirnograd, and |
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|are also accumulating in certain houses within Toretsk." "According to |
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|Chasik, the sorties continue, but so far the most active aviation is in |
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|Podarny.[Russia?]" My interpretation: Kursk sounds fine still, Toretsk |
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|is worrying, and Russia is still attacking Chasiv Yar hard but no |
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|u/godiebiel - 1 month |
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|Doesn't really matter how far the russians stretch in Donbass, the |
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|plan is to bring down the russian regime from within. russian railways |
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|are already breaking down, cutting (under HIMARS fire control) the |
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|north-south connection to Belgorod, means freedom fighters in the |
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|North Caucausus can claim indepedence. |
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|In a nutshell, how will you compare the current size of Kursk region |
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|(territories under Ukraine) to a, lets says, a US state? |
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|u/JoshuaZ1 - 1 month |
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|Ukraine was generally estimated two days ago to control around 1000 |
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|km^2 of Russia. That number has gone up in the last two days but |
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|unclear by how much (probably not a lot). The smallest US state is |
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|Rhode Island, which is around 2,678 km^2 . But area is not by itself |
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|the best metric. Some locations are more important than others. if |
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|Ukraine can get near specific major operational objective (in |
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|particular areas Russia would use for supply lines, or areas used for |
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|production, mining, refining, etc.) that matters. Right now, the |
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|sections of Kursk they have taken have little operational or strategic |
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|value. This is not like say Crimea or the Donbask which have a lot of |
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|natural resources and useful geography. Kursk is one of the largest |
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|producers of iron ore in Russia, and also produces some other metals |
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|(including some rare earth metals). If that production can be |
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|threatened, Ukraine will have gained a genuinely strategicly relevant |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|Not comparable to a US state as it is smaller. Let's just say it's |
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|almost the size of Hong Kong (which is 1'114 km2) |
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|u/Certain_Shake_8852 - 1 month |
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|Closest would be Rhode Island. |
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|u/Vryly - 1 month |
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|it's nice being from a state used as a unit of measurement so often, |
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|gives you a nice feel for the scale of things. |
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|It is approximately equal to the average size of the average county in |
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|Indiana or Georgia (yes, I looked this up, not a joke). If you want a |
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|specific county, Owen County, Indiana, or Fannin County, Georgia are |
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|about the right size. |
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|u/thisiscotty - 1 month |
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|https://x.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1823777995225751678?t=g3GGdGj1ypy9ucXl |
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|yys34Q&s=19 "Another air threat for Kyiv" |
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|u/Glavurdan - 1 month |
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|[Russia strikes back at Ukrainian forces in Kursk |
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|region](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-keeps-up-air- |
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|attacks-kursk-putin-lashes-out-west-2024-08-13/) In classic Reuters |
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|fashion, only in the body of the text do they explain that by strike |
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|back they mean "missiles, drone attacks, airstrikes vs Ukrainian |
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|u/Dabbooo - 1 month |
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|[What is this now ?](https://x.com/osinterer/status/1823738897136017725) |
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|Russian sources are starting to talk about it now, so it's safe to post: |
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|"The Ukrainian Armed Forces have carried out a large scale air assault, |
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|landing troops by helicopter in the area of Lgov behind Ruzzian lines. |
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|I have seen video, will post when cleared." |
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|u/ElectroStaticz - 1 month |
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|The Russians do like claiming amazing Ukrainian advances only to |
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|"drive them back" to boost morale but if it is true then hot digitty |
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|dayum. |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|I am *extremely* dubious of this without some very firm evidence. A |
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|helicopter air assault 30+ kilometers beyond the line of contact |
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|inside Russia itself would be very nearly suicidal, bordering on |
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|insane. |
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|u/ObjectiveBike8 - 1 month |
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|I guess Russia is digging trenches in Lgov according to CNN, and our |
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|information is delayed on the line of contact. “We need people to |
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|dig trenches in Lgov. They also have equipment but no drivers. |
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|Payment every week,” it added. https://www.cnn.com/world/live- |
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|news/ukraine-russia-war-kursk-incursion-08-14-24/index.html |
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|u/Wermys - 1 month |
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|Why? Depends on the goal of the air assault. Right now Russia |
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|doesn't have any real control over the airspace in that area. If |
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|they have good drone coverage they can see and ingress and regress |
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|route that is suitable. The first question before even assuming its |
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|true would be what would there target be. Then working based on the |
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|possible target if its possible. Which I do think it would be as |
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|long as its going after a specific target and not to try and hold |
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|ground. |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|So was the Belgorod helicopter raid early on in the war. But it |
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|still happened. |
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|u/PinkOwls_ - 1 month |
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|Let's not forget the resupply of Mariupol which went on for like 2 |
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|weeks. |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|Yes, but at least in Mariupol they controlled the landing area, |
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|they weren't landing in Russian controlled territory. |
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|u/No_Amoeba6994 - 1 month |
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|There's a big difference between a helicopter raid to destroy some |
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|oil tanks from the air and an air assault to land and recover |
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|troops in enemy territory. That's an order of magnitude more |
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|difficult. |
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|u/SirKillsalot - 1 month |
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|Ehhhh...... gonna file that under 'wait and see' Never heard of this |
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|account. |
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|u/AgentElman - 1 month |
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|This would be very bold. The helicopter part seems the least likely |
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|given air defenses in general but Russia may have little air defense |
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|in the hastily assembled defenses. Cutting off Lgov or just south of |
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|it would largely cut off Rylsk. With Russia not having troops |
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|available to react in open country, the AFU could place troops to |
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|interdict the main roads and railroads. I want to believe this is |
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|happening but it seems too good to be true. |
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|u/rrrand0mmm - 1 month |
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|Invade from SE of Sveso. Push through to the main effort. Open that |
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|entire area to be under UAF control. Force surrender of those in |
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|between. |
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|u/piponwa - 1 month |
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|The gang does maneuver warfare |
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|u/in_da_tr33z - 1 month |
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|I'm not an expert and have little knowledge of the forces available and |
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|their positions, but it would seem that it would be easy to take a whole |
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|bunch of territory - and POWs?- by crossing into Russia at Tyotkino and |
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|pushing to the Smyet river? They use the river to the north as a natural |
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|defense line and roll up everything between Tyotkino and Korenevo. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|If it’s the Tyotkino i think it is, Russia is using it as one of their |
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|strongholds in the area. Hence why they were bombing it with hammers 2 |
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|days ago |
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|u/754175 - 1 month |
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|French Glide bombs :) As the famous saying goes Violence |
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|baguettes violence Or is it Violence begets violence I can't |
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|remember |
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|u/Invezto - 1 month |
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|AKA AASM Hammer |
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|u/ServantOfBeing - 1 month |
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|Too bad it’s only Ukraine in on this, if someone were to open up another |
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|front. Russia militarily would seemingly fall apart at this point. Not |
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|that it isn’t to some degree, but speaking in terms of haste. |
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|u/Past-Passenger9129 - 1 month |
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|Poland suddenly says "That looks like fun. Count me in!" Luckily |
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|Poland is smarter than that. |
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|u/DoggoNamedDisgrace - 1 month |
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|If I can be non-credible for a moment, I have a plan: 1. Kaliningrad is |
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|now basically free real estate 2. If Belarus can move russian troops, |
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|then Poland can also allow Ukrainian troops through our territory 3. |
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|Ukraine sweeps in in and takes all of Kaliningrad 4. Ukraine becomes |
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|instant nuclear superpower 5. Poland in return only asks for a supply |
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|of an oitment to cure our blue balls (bc Ukrainians keep pounding |
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|russian asses and we can only watch) 6. Finland remembers Karelia 7. |
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|Japan remembers Kuril islands 8. Aftermentioned countries |
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|unexplainably offer free plane tickets to select Ukrainian troops 9. |
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|Fucking entire russia is suddenly encircled by Ukrainians 10. Putin |
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|shits BRICS 11. After all is done and dusted, we all sit in a round |
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|table and discuss giving Kaliningrad to Czechs because it would be |
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|extremely funny |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|1. Nobody wants Kaliningrad. It’s been neglected for decades and it’s |
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|full of Russians. Most other groups who had ties to the land got |
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|purged from it long ago. 2. Can they? Sure. Will they? No. 3. See |
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|#1. 4. Physically having nukes on hand doesn’t make you a nuclear |
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|superpower unless you can actually use them. Ukraine finding a way to |
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|use them would 100% see backlash from all other nuclear powers. 5. |
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|Fair. 6. Karelia has the same issue as Kalingrad, it’s not worth the |
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|trouble. 7-11. I’m not even sure anymore. |
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|u/yallmad4 - 1 month |
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|Truly noncredible, bravo |
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|u/Dizzy_Damage_9269 - 1 month |
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|Very non credible, but still a very refreshing comment compared to all |
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|the "f**k Putin" and Xitter copy/paste posters. Thanks for that! |
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|u/Yaaallsuck - 1 month |
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|https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13739165/a |
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|mp/Dramatic-moment-14m-superyacht-owned-founder-troubled-grocery-app- |
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|Getir-catches-fire-coast-Sardinia-sinks-16-passenger-crew-escape.html |
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|The tweet about Medvedev's yacht is a fake or at least the image is. |
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|Unless an actually reliable source is found, it should be removed. |
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|u/Osiris32 - 1 month |
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|I mean, your source is the Daily Mail. Just saying. |
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|u/ttbnz - 1 month |
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|As is tradition. |
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|u/Embarrassed-Toe-904 - 1 month |
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|The good thing about when Russia gets bombed is at least they have good- |
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|looking metro stations to hide in. It's probably like a 5 star hotel |
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|compared to what the average Russians live in. |
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|u/Logical_Welder3467 - 1 month |
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|that is only for Moscow and and St Peterberg, IIRC only 4 cities |
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|outside these two have metro system |
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|u/OmniaLoca - 1 month |
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|Mmmmm fresh thread smell is best smell |
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|u/owa00 - 1 month |
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|Agreed, now please read my hot-take post about why Stargate Universe |
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|was a great show that should have never been cancelled, and how it |
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|affects the Ukraine war... |
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|u/aisholee - 1 month |
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|i’m waiting. |
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|u/stevehockey4 - 1 month |
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|Eli still standing on the bridge of that ship for all eternity still |
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|haunts me. So sad it ended. |
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|u/xeothought - 1 month |
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|Just like with Star Trek Enterprise... we didn't know how good we |
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|had it. Great shows in hindsight (though I always loved Universe). |
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|Slava Ukraini |
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|u/SundyMundy - 1 month |
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|It's been a long road... |
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|u/spatenfloot - 1 month |
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|on the other hand, Sliders was never any good |
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|u/Spo-dee-O-dee - 1 month |
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|*Sliders* was just budget bin *Quantum Leap*. And I didn't like |
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|that show either. |
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|u/GwynBleidd88 - 1 month |
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|Some interesting bits of information I've seen highlighted in [this |
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|article by The Wall Street Journal](https://archive.is/Rx5ZW) about the |
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|Kursk incursion: > For now, Russia is struggling to contain Ukrainian |
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|advances. But some Ukrainian soldiers waiting to join the battle from |
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|Sumy, the Ukrainian regional capital on the border, said they had been |
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|pulled from already threadbare units on the eastern front in Ukraine |
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|and > Another soldier said he was surprised to learn he was being |
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|transferred to the Sumy border region as his unit was so short of men |
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|that infantry spent as long as 45 days straight in a trench. The |
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|25-year-old had been stationed in Chasiv Yar, one of the hottest spots |
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|on the front line, until a week before the incursion. So it sounds like |
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|Ukraine are actually pulling some units away from the Donbass and into |
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|the Kursk offensive. This won't make much sense to any of us here since |
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|we have a miniscule amount of information available compared to the |
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|Ukrainian generals in charge, but I think it's interesting regardless. |
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|u/_e75 - 1 month |
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|Even Russia grabbing hundreds or thousands of square miles more of the |
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|Donbas won’t significantly impact ukraines ability to continue to |
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|fight except in as much as they’re throwing troops into the meat |
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|grinder. It might be preferable to sacrifice a ton of land in return |
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|for flooding more Ukrainian troops into Russia where they can shut |
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|down their infrastructure and logistics. If they cut off the train |
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|lines and flank the front lines they can just end the war. |
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|u/BossReasonable6449 - 1 month |
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|I don't think this is surprising. The initial reports from the first |
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|few days was that Ukraine was using seasoned troops for this rather |
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|than recent recruits. The WSJ's story just seems to be giving some |
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|detail to that. Sounds like that had some units that they were going |
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|to have to reconstitute, but just decided to take the remnants of and |
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|u/machopsychologist - 1 month |
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|Depends on their role I guess. If they're already battered so badly, |
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|rotating them to a cooler part of the front as a rear police unit |
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|might be ok. I assume they prefer being in Kursk and not Chasiv Yar |
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|right now. |
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|u/Additional-Duty-5399 - 1 month |
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|Seems like they're banking on that the Russians will also pull away |
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|some forces from the Donbass in response to protect Kursk, so it kinda |
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|levels off. It's a delicate balance on the front lines, you can't push |
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|one part without somewhat compromising another. |
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|u/stayfrosty - 1 month |
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|Well if the choice is between fighting a war of attrition on your |
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|soil or your enemy's, you would choose to fight on your enemy's |
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|every time |
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|u/forvirradsvensk - 1 month |
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|You don’t need heavily manned positions to face Russia’s meat waves, |
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|just fortifications and non-static defence when necessary. |
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|u/Comrade-McCain - 1 month |
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|Hello am Ivan from American Republic, I writing this to tell you we |
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|habben serious problem in Kursk and I am very concern about escalation |
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|with the Kremlin |
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|u/boomsers - 1 month |
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|St. Petersburg, Florida oblast? |
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|u/BroccoliFartFuhrer - 1 month |
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|No no Texas oblast with warm water ports. |
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|u/WorldNewsMods - 1 month |
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|[Previous post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/1eqyidc/rworldne |
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|ws_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/) |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|Just GOAT things https://x.com/defmon3/status/1823773875357843543?s=46& |
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|u/Cogitoergosumus - 1 month |
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|Some fairly iffy sources are claiming Ukraine may have captured Apti |
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|Alaudinov. If true it would be a huge blow to the Russian Tik Tok |
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|world. |
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|u/jeremy9931 - 1 month |
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|Anyone with two brain cells knows that this rumor is false. Gonna be |
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|hard as hell to capture someone filming TikToks 100 miles away from |
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|the frontlines. |
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