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Rio de Janeiro(Brazil) in the early 20th century when the city was known
as "The Tropical Paris".
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|u/bk-12 - 1 month
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|It's beautiful
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Yeah, unfortunately only few buldings from this time are well
|preserved.
|u/OMNeigh - 1 month
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|Crazy! Are the rest torn down or just in disrepair?
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|Mostly disrepair. Similar things happened in Greece - where the
|country was prosperous with cheap money - but then recessions and
|depressions take their toll, and people don't have enough money to
|maintain. Apartment/bulding ownership tends to be passed down
|over generations and the subsequent generations don't maintain
|them properly. Sometimes entire buildings become uninhabitable
|because half the ~~tenants~~ owners living there didn't bother
|taking care of things.
|u/Uisce-beatha - 1 month
|
|>because half the tenants living there didn't bother taking care
|of things A building falling into disrepair has absolutely
|nothing to do with the tenants nor is it on them to properly
|maintain their dwelling or fix anything. That's literally the
|point of renting. You have the ability to move whenever you feel
|like with no strings attached and you don't have to worry about
|cost of repair when something breaks. More often than not,
|landlords do not reinvest any of their money into the properties
|until they become a bit run down. At that point barely anyone is
|going to care about keeping the place looking nice because
|they're probably overpaying for it which disincentives them to
|give a shit. Either way, it's on the landlord unless they are
|selling the apartments and charging a building maintenance fee.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|I happen to own an apartment in Athens, so i can speak from
|experience. This isn't a landlord situation. These people
|own the apartment or multiple apartments in a building and no
|one is maintaining the entire building because there is no
|"HOA" or building association. The building is more than just
|the apartment area. If no one maintains the stairwell, or the
|electrical, it falls into disrepair. And then the
|neighborhood is shit so no one wants to bother spending money
|to fix it. etc...etc.. Even the elevator has a cost and when
|it breaks, only two of us can afford to pitch in to fix it.
|Everyone wants to use it, though.
|u/_WeSellBlankets_ - 1 month
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|This is such a weird concept and seems incredibly stupid and
|destined to fail in the ways you're describing. From an
|American point of view it seems unfathomable that there
|would be an apartment building without someone being
|responsible for the building as a whole. >The building is
|more than just the apartment area. Yeah, and that's why it
|seems unfathomable that no one owns the common hallways and
|stairwells. How is that area unowned? Like seriously, an
|unowned elevator? This seems like a bad story that doesn't
|have an editor catching glaring and unrealistic problems.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|When your city is over 3,500 years - property ownership
|exposes unique challenges. Much of Europe is this way -
|that wasn't obliterated by war and rebuilt and likely
|changed ownership. Athens was never really destroyed in
|the modern era. The hallways and elevator space are
|owned. By the building owners. Many just don't have the
|money or won't spend it and you can't just put a lien on
|their apartment if you fix something. Not all buildings
|are the same. Its just many are owned by people who can't
|afford to fix them and the government doesn't care.
|u/_WeSellBlankets_ - 1 month
|
|>The hallways and elevator space are owned. By the
|building owners. Many just don't have the money or won't
|spend it This is the source of the confusion and why
|you got the responses you got. This is very different
|than what you were saying earlier. >and no one is
|maintaining the entire building because there is no
|"HOA" or building association. In one comment you're
|saying there is no one to oversee the common areas in
|the building as a whole. In the other you're saying they
|don't have the money or they don't care. We all would
|have understood this latter concept.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|No one really cares if you don't understand concepts,
|firstly. I've been downvoted for true facts before.
|> This is the source of the confusion and why you got
|the responses you got. This is very different than
|what you were saying earlier. how is it any
|different? > you're saying there is no one to oversee
|the common areas in the building as a whole. In the
|other you're saying they don't have the money or they
|don't care. I literally do not get what is so hard to
|understand here. The owners of the property do not
|have enough money to maintain the property, because
|none of them have been paying into any sort of HOA
|that would maintain these areas. Therefore, its up to
|everyone who cares about their home to help pay for
|it. Some people don't care. They will watch the
|building collapse before they pay.
|u/Thick_Distribution67 - 1 month
|
|Those are things a landlord is supposed to pay for/manage.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
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|I don't think you know how to read. multiple families
|inherit their apartment that their parents or grandparents
|bought. They are the landlords of their own apartments.
|I own one apartment and thus, I own a part of the
|problems..... There is no single building owner. If the
|building collapses, all of us will own a part of the land
|and a pile of rubble.
|u/Thick_Distribution67 - 1 month
|
|I don’t think YOU read what you wrote. You didn’t write
|people owned the building, you said they owned the
|apartment. An apartment is a section of the building.
|You didn’t write anything about inheritance in your
|previous comment. So next time how bout focusing on your
|own brain before concerning yourself with others using
|theirs.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|you need therapy. Self reflect a little before you
|have a brain aneurysm.
|u/CoreyFeldmanNo1Fan - 1 month
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|You two should pay to repair it then put in a keyboard
|reader to use it. Fuck your neighbors.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|Well we're talking about Brazil and Greece here.
|u/huzzaahh - 1 month
|
|Wow, your very basic (and correct) correction did a great job
|pissing off a bunch of shitty landlords. Well done!
|u/86886892 - 1 month
|
|Man remind me never to have you as a tenant.
|u/BrokeInMichigan - 1 month
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|Hey, if being told that it's the landlords responsibility to
|do upkeep on their buildings triggered you, then you might
|be a shitty landlord.
|u/86886892 - 1 month
|
|No sense of personal responsibility for your dwelling
|space. Sad.
|u/BrokeInMichigan - 1 month
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|No sense of personal responsibility for the building you
|own. Sad. See, I can do that too.
|u/86886892 - 1 month
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|I wouldn’t allow you to be my tenant either.
|u/Uisce-beatha - 1 month
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|Well, I'm not a renter but I've rented before. I take care
|of my things and try to leave things better than when I
|found it. I know a lot of people just want to do nothing
|of value or worth all day and still collect a fat paycheck
|but I'm not a big fan of that. I'm also not too keen on the
|idea of landed gentry and birthright ownership over vast
|swaths of land and property. It makes for spoiled, entitled,
|ego driven narcissists that contribute nothing of value to
|their community, city, state, country and world.
|Personally, I think one home passed down should be taxed
|lightly. Everyone after that should incur a heavy tax
|burden. Same goes for home rentals. Every property after the
|first one should see an increased tax rate. This would also
|allow a reduced tax rate for those that only own one home.
|At the end of the day my argument still stands. The burden
|of upkeep on a rental property is 100% the responsibility of
|the owner.
|u/Uisce-beatha - 1 month
|
|Every single time someone resorts to insults or yelling in a
|conversation it's because they know they're wrong and feel
|attacked. In this case I fail to see what point you're
|trying to make here. Not all countries are the same. Okay.
|I'm following. Where does the old house play into this? It
|sounds like you're agreeing with me.
|u/Yourwanker - 1 month
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|>Sometimes entire buildings become uninhabitable because half
|the tenants living there didn't bother taking care of things.
|You took this line from literal slumlords. Are you so dumb that
|you think it's on the tenants of an apartment building to do
|maintenance repairs on their apartment building that they don't
|own? Smfh
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
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|read my other post. It isn't one owner of a building. or a
|company. No one wants to pay to fix the broken electrical.
|The internet stopped working because the lines running into
|the building need to be replaced at a cost of $11,000 and no
|one can afford it. The roof leaks, but who owns that? We
|all do, but they're all too poor to chip in. You don't
|understand anything outside of your little American box where
|one person or company owns a building. Move along son
|u/Yourwanker - 1 month
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|>read my other post. It isn't one owner of a building. or a
|company. I'm not going to go through your entire post
|history and read every single comment you have ever made to
|"properly understand" the context of your last comment. >No
|one wants to pay to fix the broken electrical. The internet
|stopped working because the lines running into the building
|need to be replaced at a cost of $11,000 and no one can
|afford it. The roof leaks, but who owns that? We all do, but
|they're all too poor to chip in. It's never on the tenants
|of a building to pay for the repairs of the building they
|rent in any country. Do you know what the word "tenant"
|means? I really don't think you do.
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|I am Greek so english isn't my native. But I meant..
|person who lives in the home. its people who own the
|homes live in them. Who owns the roof? Or the
|electrical room? There is no single building owner. its
|10-15 people. half of which have no money to fix it.
|u/Yourwanker - 1 month
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|>I am Greek so english isn't my native. But I meant..
|person who lives in the home. That's not what you said
|at all. It's real fucked up for you to say this in your
|last comment after you were literally using the wrong
|words in your comment: >>You don't understand anything
|outside of your little American box where one person or
|company owns a building. >>Move along son You are an
|ahole for saying that when your entire comment was wrong
|because you don't know English. You should pump your
|breaks before you start being a jerk in another
|language. "Tenants" are people who RENT property form
|a LANDLORD. >its people who own the homes live in
|them. Who owns the roof? Or the electrical room? There
|is no single building owner. its 10-15 people. half of
|which have no money to fix it. Well, I guess in America
|we aren't so stupid to have 10-15 people owning a
|building with no one responsible for the building
|maintenance. We have 1 person/company own an apartment
|building and then they rent out individual apartments to
|tenants. It's rare but sometimes 1 apartment/condo
|building is owned by multiple residents and they are all
|legally equally responsible for maintenance on the
|building and they usually have a small monthly
|maintenance fee to cover the buildings maintenance
|costs. Tl;Dr Your scenario doesn't happen in
|developed countries and definitely isn't a common. Quit
|acting like you know everything when you literally don't
|know the definition of "tenant".
|u/No_Translator2218 - 1 month
|
|You're a fucking sad human relevant username, I
|guess.
|u/freshbrownies - 1 month
|
|Lol you are pissed at some Greek guy for a Brazilian
|condo building when you're in America. Get a life
|dude.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Some are still there.
|u/FiggsMcduff - 1 month
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|What about the rest? Were they torn down?
|u/dodecaphonic - 1 month
|
|Yes. There was a great push during the Vargas era and then
|more intensely during the Military Dictatorship for
|“modernizing” downtown Rio, and their vision involved widening
|streets and replacing those buildings with tall, dull, generic
|towers. You still have pockets of older, colonial
|architecture, and others of this Paris-inspired style, but
|they’re surrounded by really drab architecture. (edited to
|include info about the Vargas era)
|u/willverine - 1 month
|
|Ironically, that's exactly what Paris did to become what
|it's thought of today. Military dictator (Napoleon III)
|ordered massive parts of Paris to be razed and re-built in
|the modern style of the time with wider boulevards and more
|standardized buildings (Haussmann-style). There's still
|pockets that weren't destroyed. Parts of Le Marais are a
|good example, with much narrower, winding streets with
|relatively plain buildings. Fortunately for Paris, the
|architecture of the time just happened to age better than
|what Rio got.
|u/snickering_grapes - 1 month
|
|True but also i remember another reason to the government
|hating narrow roads and seeking wide ones was to make
|rioting with blockading more difficult to do.
|u/SiVousVoyezMoi - 1 month
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|Which is funny because the capital of Brasil is also
|designed with that in mind
|u/Cryogenics1st - 1 month
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|We just haven't given it enough time, that's all. I mean,
|how long ago was Napoleon by comparison?
|u/The-Florentine - 1 month
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|Like five years ago at least.
|u/Previous-Yard-8210 - 1 month
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|Na. Ugly is ugly.
|u/dherps - 1 month
|
|government-backed razing is also what destroyed the
|historic victorian mansion district of los angeles which
|is now downtown
|u/FanClubof5 - 1 month
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|> winding streets Wasn't a lot of that to make it harder
|to barricade?
|u/fjgwey - 1 month
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|Fascists and despising art, name a better combination.
|u/TheMartinG - 1 month
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|I agree but it’s crazy how much a thing always being there
|decreases a locals appreciation of it. The amount of
|graffiti I saw on Roman and Greek ruins and monuments was
|baffling, until I realized the local kids grew up with
|this stuff just always around, and maybe just take it for
|granted Also, before a certain amount of time, buildings
|can just be considered “old and outdated” and in that
|moment it might make sense to replace them that it would
|more than a century later (To be honest though, I don’t
|know how long the Brazilian buildings were there before
|they were replaced)
|u/Don_Thuglayo - 1 month
|
|There was that one guy who got rejected from art school...
|u/Comfortable_Hunt_684 - 1 month
|
|Really hard to upgrade the electrical, plumbing and HVAC in
|old buildings so they are useful in modern society. Really
|have to pick a few buildings that are exceptional and just
|replace the others. Source: I've done this work. To redo
|one you could build 2 or more.
|u/DeadAssociate - 1 month
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|you could just leave the facade in certain cases
|u/DooDooBrownz - 1 month
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|imagine replacing colonial architecture with something that
|isn't a constant reminder of oppression. how dare they! /s
|u/Syn7axError - 1 month
|
|Nothing says a lack of oppression more than a military
|dictatorship.
|u/DooDooBrownz - 1 month
|
|it ended in 85...almost 40 years ago. pretty sure they
|build some shit in that time period
|u/RogueBromeliad - 1 month
|
|There's a part of town of downtown Rio, which isn't the main
|business center which does have a lot of buildings from the
|turn of the last century though. The facade of those buildings
|are protected by law. So, people can only alter the inside and
|behind them. The center is quite Mixed, but one of the main
|squares has the Municipal Theater, the Cultural center of
|justice, the National library, the City counsel and the Fine
|Arts museum, they're all from 1905-1920, so they've all got
|sort of a Neoclassic Eclecticism, with some Art Deco
|influences. And alot of other buildings are still around there
|from the 1920-30's with Art Deco. Rio, from an architectural
|pov, is very mixed. Very few buildings actually dating before
|1800's except for the churches, which some date back to the
|17-18th century.
|u/droptheectopicbeat - 1 month
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|Some still exist.
|u/DisproportionateWill - 1 month
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|Were the rest torn down?
|u/droptheectopicbeat - 1 month
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|Some of them remain.
|u/Turtok09 - 1 month
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|Is it also harder to keep them up in Brazil due to the weather?
|I recently learned that In the US specifically California is bad
|for houses cuz the weather.
|u/Nukitandog - 1 month
|
|There is alot of colonial era buildings that are completely
|derelict. Mainly due it being impossible to live in a house that
|isn't 100% secure. Down town Rio has Victorian style terraces that
|could be amazing but it's not safe to live in them.
|u/Grillfood - 1 month
|
|Most of the buildings that look ornate and beautiful in old photos
|were constructed of plaster.    There are still lots of old
|buildings in Rio but they are almost unrecognizable because the
|plaster facades have rotten off.    Buildings weren’t always “built
|to last” the buildings made from brick and stone are still around. 
|Look up imperial palace in catete and the street it is on. Has lots
|of little old ornate buildings. 
|u/grambell789 - 1 month
|
|even stone, depending on its chemistry, erodes over time,
|especially given modern pollutants.
|u/RogueBromeliad - 1 month
|
|In Rio, the stone mostly used was granite and gneiss, so it
|doesn't really errode. They were all done and cut down manually
|by slaves. (even after slavery supposedly ended in 1888). Some
|of the most lavished buildings were made had carrara marble
|columns though. For example the [Municipal Theater](https://up
|load.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3f/Teatro_Municipal
|_-_panoramio_%284%29.jpg/1920px-Teatro_Municipal_-
|_panoramio_%284%29.jpg), still stands.
|u/PerennialGeranium - 1 month
|
|Yeah, you can keep "temporary" buildings like that around if you
|fix up the plaster every so often (see: much of San Diego's Balboa
|Park) but some climates are going to going to make that easier
|than others.
|u/ooouroboros - 1 month
|
|> Most of the buildings that look ornate and beautiful in old
|photos were constructed of plaster. This is the case in old
|expositions like the St Louis World's Fair or the old Coney Island
|playground/s - but have not heard about this being the case in
|actual residential/commercial buildings.
|u/Suspiciousfrog69 - 1 month
|
|A lot of old Spaniard buildings and cathedrals still stand in
|Mexico. They’re gorgeous
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|I know, the same happens in Brazil with portuguese colonial
|architecture but it's more preserved in smaller cities.
|u/Recent_Desk7132 - 1 month
|
|Funny how we think we have progressed so far in the modern age.
|Architecture and product quality would prove otherwise
|u/Smooth-Mouse9517 - 1 month
|
|Would love to see some google street view links to see the then and
|now. NYC is not so dissimilar. Old photos of 5th Ave are
|indistinguishable from today.
|u/nodnodwinkwink - 1 month
|
|Here's one that's easy to find because of [the Odeon](https://www.
|google.com/maps/@-22.911564,-43.1753826,3a,73.9y,278.48h,115.85t/d
|ata=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sL3QFRfi8mrSAWqISgiQMww!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreet
|viewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_s
|v.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-25.852290873886304%26pano
|id%3DL3QFRfi8mrSAWqISgiQMww%26yaw%3D278.48268157847707!7i16384!8i8
|192?coh=205410&entry=ttu). (Picture 6 from OPs post) Looks like
|they made a good effort to maintain it's facade. It's immediate
|neighbouring buildings were replaced by modern buildings but there
|are quite a few buildings from that era and probably older still
|in the area.
|u/ZacaBR - 1 month
|
|I think Manaus was “the Paris of the Tropics” few years before Rio.
|u/haefler1976 - 1 month
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|What happened?
|u/Huenyan - 1 month
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|Military fascist dictatorship ordered "modernization".
|u/Octavus - 1 month
|
|The Panama Canal happened, steam ships no longer needed to stop on
|their way around South America.
|u/Shikizion - 1 month
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|Modernity
|u/Smash55 - 1 month
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|Modern architecture became normalized and now we dont care if our
|cities have boring architecture
|u/DrunkCanadianAMA - 1 month
|
|The white ruling class was pushed out
|u/barcap - 1 month
|
|But how could a beautiful place become a slump in the 21st century?
|u/Clearwatercress69 - 1 month
|
|Today, it’s the city of off-duties.
|u/MustangBR - 1 month
|
|...was
|u/DarthWoo - 1 month
|
|Something I hadn't known much until recently was that up to around this
|point Brazil was on par with some other imperial powers around the
|world, even having its own dreadnought-type battleships at the start of
|WW2.
|u/Tjtod - 1 month
|
|By WW2 thier BBs were pretty obsolete but they were one of the first
|countries to have one ordering a few from the UK. The whole South
|American Naval Arms race is pretty interesting.
|u/peacemaker2007 - 1 month
|
|>BBs Big Battleships? Battleship Boobies? Boink Boinks?!
|u/mrgamecat2 - 1 month
|
|BB is just short for Battleship >There are loads of other
|acronyms like: >CA, heavy cruiser >CL, light cruiser >DD,
|destroyer >CV, Aircraft carrier >To name a few that were
|around during WW2
|u/love-from-london - 1 month
|
|🅱️attle🅱️hip
|u/TieDyedFury - 1 month
|
|Pretty sure heavy cruisers are CA coming from the early days in
|which they were called Armored Cruisers.
|u/mrgamecat2 - 1 month
|
|Yeah that's more correct CC felt off to me but I wasn't
|bothered enough by it to go and google what it actually was,
|cheers!
|u/Praesentius - 1 month
|
|It just depends on the era and the nation. By WW2, in
|American naval terms, you had CLs and CAs. Light and heavy
|cruisers. CA started as "Armored", but it later became more
|important to differentiate by gun size. Where CLs (light
|cruisers) has 6-inch guns and CAs (heavy cruisers) had
|8-inch guns. The British used a slightly different
|nomenclature for CAs, where CA simply meant "cruiser", while
|still utilizing the CL term for light cruisers as well.
|The Brazilians use the CA designation for Heavy Cruiser, but
|it referred to lighter ships that the Americans would regard
|as CLs. For example, Brazil bought a Brooklyn-class CL, the
|USS St. Louis, from the US and rechristened it the CA
|Almirante Tamandaré. >CC felt off to me Assuming you
|originally had said CC instead of CA? That had it's own
|usage in that same WW2 era as well. The US had planned to
|build battlecruisers (Lexington class) and were going to
|designate them CC. That's a story all in itself. But more
|modern usage uses CC for command ships, such as the Blue
|Ridge class Amphibious Command Ship (LCC-19 for example).
|u/mrgamecat2 - 1 month
|
|Yeah it was originally CC not CA, but cheers for providing
|the extra information, always goes to show that there will
|always be someone who knows more about a given subject who
|can teach you so much about it.
|u/Tjtod - 1 month
|
|CC was going to be the hull designation for US
|battlecruisers
|u/Acceptable_Job_5486 - 1 month
|
|The navy sucks at acronyms.
|u/discodropper - 1 month
|
|lol! What psychopath made up this system?! They’re 1 for 5, do
|they not know how acronyms work??? (\s sort of. I’m sure they
|are acronyms, just not for what was said above.)
|u/friedAmobo - 1 month
|
|In this case, the French actually didn't have anything to do
|with it (directly). Hull classification symbols, as used by
|the U.S. Navy (and then popularized globally by books and
|video games and whatnot), used to be more straightforward; C
|meant cruiser, ACR meant armored cruiser, etc. In 1920, the
|USN revamped its hull classification, and a second letter was
|added to standardize. Basic classes, like destroyers (D) and
|battleships (B) were doubled to DD and BB; this also applies
|to frigates (FF). Cruisers, which were previously just a C,
|were split out into the likes of CL (light cruiser) or CA
|(armored/heavy cruiser). The aircraft carrier's CV, however,
|was French influenced, since the "V" could be derived from the
|French word voler (to fly) or the French volplane. As ships
|have continued to evolve, the hull classification symbols have
|gotten longer. The USN no longer has DDs, but rather DDGs
|(guided-missile destroyers). Similarly, FF was phased out for
|FFGs (guided-missile frigates). All USN aircraft carriers are
|nuclear now, so CVN rather than CV, and the USN doesn't
|operate battleships anymore, so BB and any potential
|derivatives are unused. There might be an interesting argument
|out there about why the reactivated battleships in the 1980s
|didn't have a BBG designation since they were refitted with
|missiles at that time.
|u/the__storm - 1 month
|
|Probably french. Any backwards-ass abbreviation you can be
|sure the french were involved.
|u/discodropper - 1 month
|
|lol, my thoughts too
|u/jacked_monkey - 1 month
|
|R/wowslegends is leaking
|u/MissCuteCath - 1 month
|
|People should play Azur Lane to educate themselves on acronyms
|about ships.
|u/mrgamecat2 - 1 month
|
|lol I got interested through WOWS but with all the AL and BA
|crossovers I may as well have played both games, but they all
|do act as a great way to start learning about navies and
|ships.
|u/Astyal - 1 month
|
|Brazilian Biu-Bitsu or Boob bitsu
|u/SpecialOops - 1 month
|
|BBLs
|u/KeyBanger - 1 month
|
|BBLs are sailing in your area right now!
|u/Sargash - 1 month
|
|Battleboats i can only assume?
|u/FrostyTheHippo - 1 month
|
|Alert! You've just been selected to start playing the video game
|"Azur Lane".
|u/Vectorman1989 - 1 month
|
|Chile claimed the first ironclad ship sunk by a torpedo in their
|1891 civil war. Pretty interesting war that is often overlooked and
|in part decided by naval power.
|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_Civil_War_of_1891
|u/LaunchTransient - 1 month
|
|For some reason, Europe and North America kinda ignore South
|America in terms of history
|u/Kloetenpeter - 1 month
|
|Emil Körner would like to have a word with you
|u/I_Hardly_Know-Her - 1 month
|
|Well by WW2 everyone’s battleships were obsolete, they just didn’t
|know quite yet
|u/titsmuhgeee - 1 month
|
|Which makes perfect sense when you realize that Brazil during the 18th
|and 19th centuries had **massive** amounts of African slaves
|supporting a huge agricultural industry. The wealth of Brazil was
|completely built on slave labor. 388,000 African slaves were
|imported to North America. **4,000,000** African slaves were
|imported to Brazil, and slavery didn't end until 1888.
|u/Breadbp - 1 month
|
|This stat doesn’t count the Caribbean and Central America as North
|America for some reason
|u/ByAPortuguese - 1 month
|
|For the reason that Brazil was a portuguese colony, and the
|Caribbean, Central America and North America were not
|u/Complex-Bee-840 - 1 month
|
|Nearly all of the Caribbean islands at that time were European
|colonies. Bunch of them still are.
|u/ByAPortuguese - 1 month
|
|Not portuguese ones, the data is prob from portuguese sources
|at the time
|u/Complex-Bee-840 - 1 month
|
|For some reason on your previous comment I completely blew
|past the “Portuguese” portion. My bad.
|u/ByAPortuguese - 1 month
|
|Thats fine mate, no problem
|u/stevethebandit - 1 month
|
|Brazil grew immensely wealthy around the late 19th century due to the
|amazon rubber boom, which unfortunately was built on inhuman levels of
|exploitation of the natives living in the Amazon basin
|u/Regular_Form_6906 - 1 month
|
|You’re not wrong, but the main symbol (by far) of Brazilian economy
|during 19th century was coffee. That was also built with inhuman
|exploitation, mainly of slaves and immigrants.
|u/Drak_is_Right - 1 month
|
|The one big Amazon city had a lot of wealth in it from the rubber.
|u/stevethebandit - 1 month
|
|Manaus in Brazil and Iquitos in Peru both grew as a result of the
|rubber boom
|u/Withermaster4 - 1 month
|
|Yes, even today Brazil has a lot of things going for it to be an
|extremely successful nation but the past, the environment, and wealth
|inequality get in the way (as with many places)
|u/ValyrianJedi - 1 month
|
|I had to go down there once or twice a year for a few years. The
|parts that are run down are insanely run down, but their nice is
|*really* nice. Like the level of opulence you'd expect a bond
|villain to live in. Like one dude we worked with had solid gold
|chains hanging down from the ceiling to split up rooms the way that
|some people use beads, and a 3 level pool with 2 built on grottos
|and a guilded fountain.
|u/dillpickles007 - 1 month
|
|That's what extreme wealth inequality will do for ya
|u/Drak_is_Right - 1 month
|
|They didn't have the more educated populace to quickly transform to
|a more manufacturing based economy. Their wealth was based on the
|wealth of the land.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Brazil had the strongest naval force in the late 19th century in the
|world second only to Great Britain.
|u/locutogram - 1 month
|
|According to Wikipedia they had the fifth or sixth strongest navy at
|that time (at their height). Not sure where you're getting 2nd. I'm
|guessing Britain, America, Japan, and Russia were all bigger at the
|time. Possibly France. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Bra
|zilian_Navy#:~:text=By%201889%2C%20the%20navy%20had,powerful%20warsh
|ips%20in%20the%20world.
|u/A_Naany_Mousse - 1 month
|
|Germany was building up its navy significantly around that time. 
|u/joecooool418 - 1 month
|
|Yea, but back then that might have only been a dozen boats.
|u/Remarkable-Hall-9478 - 1 month
|
|That’s more boats than I have :/ 
|u/tiga4life22 - 1 month
|
|Why though? Honestly curious
|u/grambell789 - 1 month
|
|I'm guessing Brazil was a heavy exporter of agriculture products
|so they saw protection of their seaways as critical.
|u/TronCat1277 - 1 month
|
|Rubber
|u/Protip19 - 1 month
|
|The Royal Navy spent decades interdicting Brazilian commerce to
|stop the slave trade. They pulled out in 1852 but I wonder if
|that left a legacy of never wanting to be navally dominated
|again.
|u/Scalills - 1 month
|
|[TIL about the South American dreadnought race](https://en.m.wik
|ipedia.org/wiki/South_American_dreadnought_race) TLDR: They
|believed creating a large navy would make them an imperial
|power, and were trying to outdo Argentina and Chile in their
|naval expansions.
|u/Bay1Bri - 1 month
|
|DO you have a source? I'd like to read more.
|u/kwimfr - 1 month
|
|That is an odd way to order that sentence.
|u/kaspar42 - 1 month
|
|When?
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Middle to late 19th century.
|u/bootselectric - 1 month
|
|Proves that navies don’t matter
|u/anewpath123 - 1 month
|
|Not sure I'd say that!
|u/bootselectric - 1 month
|
|I did. Land power wins wars.
|u/anewpath123 - 1 month
|
|What was the last war that was won with just land power?
|Surely air supremacy wins wars easily?
|u/bootselectric - 1 month
|
|I didn’t say “just with” they play a role, like the
|airforce (force multiplier) but ultimately armies win
|wars. Even Japan didn’t surrender to the lame Navy.
|u/Campeador - 1 month
|
|That hasnt been true since ships were invented.
|u/Primal_Pedro - 1 month
|
|Seriously? That's insane!
|u/Alex_2259 - 1 month
|
|In the 50s or something, Venezuela had a higher standard of living
|than the United States
|u/Tjaeng - 1 month
|
|Argentina was one of the richest countries in the world on a per
|capita basis in the early 1900s… Spain (and Portugal in the case
|of Brazil) is obviously the easiest rich country for South Americans
|to emigrate to, but for those who have grandparents or great
|grandparents who were economic migrants from countries that are much
|richer today a descendant citizenship can be a jackpot. Many such
|Colombian/Argentinian/Venezuelan-Swiss people can be found here in
|Switzerland. Brazilian-Japanese Nisei is another example. South
|America had a rough second half of the 20th century…
|u/akie - 1 month
|
|Then again, Europe and SE Asia had to deal with WW2 and the Cold
|War.
|u/lwgu - 1 month
|
|Same as Argentina
|u/Drak_is_Right - 1 month
|
|South America quickly fell behind and some of those dreadnought were
|sold to Europe for WWI. They were quite behind in tech by WWII
|u/Connect_Progress7862 - 1 month
|
|So their decline was all their doing and had nothing to do with the
|Portuguese
|u/Crisado - 1 month
|
|There's qa city called Manaus, the capital of Amazonas that has a
|beautiful theatre that was brought piece by piece from France, if I'm
|not mistaken. But the Europeans took seeds of the Latex tree and
|fucked up everything
|u/cptmacjack - 1 month
|
|If it weren't for a little terrorrist organization called the CIA, a
|lot of south and central american countries would be so much better
|off.
|u/SalzigHund - 1 month
|
|So what you’re saying is Brazil is like that guy in Civ that fucks up
|his allocations early on but built his first city in such a resource-
|heavy area that they caught up with the other major players then gave
|their brother the controller and they completely fumbled it?
|u/zomghax92 - 1 month
|
|Rio was the seat of the entire Portuguese empire for a while during the
|19th century. When Napoleon invaded Portugal, the royal family actually
|moved to Brazil and held court there for more than a decade. Even when
|the king moved back to Portugal, he left his son there as regent.
|Eventually the son decided that he would rather be Emperor of Brazil
|than heir to the throne of Portugal, and fought for Brazilian
|independence.
|u/LeiziBesterd - 1 month
|
|"Fought"
|u/Take_Care_plz - 1 month
|
|"And this was Brazil before the invention of soccer" Stevie Griffin
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Lol, at this time football already was brought to the country by
|english workers and was becoming popular among both elite and poor
|people.
|u/bfrio - 1 month
|
|Cidade Maravilhosa
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Back in the time the title of "Wonderful City" was justified.
|u/KebabGud - 1 month
|
|ODEON? I know that they went pretty global in the 50s for a bit, but
|didn't think they got to South America
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Cine Odeon was built in 1926 in Rio.
|u/KebabGud - 1 month
|
|Sooo.. probably not connected to the larger cinema chain then
|u/andara84 - 1 month
|
|Odeon is actually a name of Greek origin used for some kind of
|theaters, and has been used in the 1800s all over Europe for
|theaters, again. There were countless Odeon theaters, but later
|also companies in music and film under that name.
|u/fairie_poison - 1 month
|
|And when they cost a nickel it’s a nickelodeon
|u/RampantSavagery - 1 month
|
|Oh God there's a whole stupid conspiracy surrounding that.
|u/fairie_poison - 1 month
|
|what do you mean?
|u/Fake-Podcast-Ad - 1 month
|
|It's really latin for "I don't care about etymology"
|u/andara84 - 1 month
|
|Thanks, had to laugh hard!
|u/Stuntingonthesehoes - 1 month
|
|No that's literally where the name comes from
|u/andara84 - 1 month
|
|Didn't know that 😮
|u/imakefilms - 1 month
|
|I mean what he said is actually true but why is it funny
|u/joparebr - 1 month
|
|The film screening in the picture is 'O filho de Ali Baba (Son of Ali
|Baba)'.
|u/dawn_of_dae - 1 month
|
|I had to google images from Rio today because I've never been but damn,
|it's so different. This looks sort of European in a way. It's beautiful.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|The architecture was still very influenced by the imperial era which
|had ended just some decades before, it was mainly based on portuguese
|and french buildings.
|u/cincominutosmas - 1 month
|
|Lol, 'sort of European in a way'. It looks completely European, which
|makes sense considering its history.
|u/ImBoredCanYouTell - 1 month
|
|I mean, everyone in Brazil speaks Portuguese for a reason: European
|settlers founded the country.
|u/JoaoPauloBB - 1 month
|
|We are an european colony after all
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|The only capital of an european empire outside Europe.
|u/Tryphon59200 - 1 month
|
|Algiers was the capital of Free France for a while.
|u/sylanar - 1 month
|
|Was it really? I never knew that, that's a cool fact
|u/127-0-0-1_1 - 1 month
|
|The Portuguese royal family and court fled to Brazil when
|Napoleon invaded Portugal.
|u/janosaudron - 1 month
|
|Rio is still a beautiful city though, in it's very own, unmistakable
|way.
|u/BeHard - 1 month
|
|I visited last year, probably top 5 of the most beautiful places
|I've seen.
|u/Befuddled_Scrotum - 1 month
|
|u/Domeriko648 seems like you’re a Brazilian yourself? What happened that
|changed this?
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, I'm brazilian, son of two portuguese immigrants and a carioca.
|It's hard to explain since there was not only one factor to explain
|the city's downfall but mostly is because of bad governments.
|u/zcas - 1 month
|
|Governments seem to be the bane of many great cities 🙃 thanks for
|sharing these photos.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|You're welcome
|u/Latenighredditor - 1 month
|
|Rise of unregulated capitalism and corruption lead the downfall of
|society
|u/ObligationSlight8771 - 1 month
|
|More bad government is bad. Not more good government you stooge
|u/ObligationSlight8771 - 1 month
|
|No one is perfect. But for the most part government can
|work. It does in many European countries and for the most
|part for 200 years here in the US. And this is with the GOP
|literally doing all they can to sabotage it. But that’s for
|another thread.
|u/I_am_from_Kentucky - 1 month
|
|lack of benevolence and humans prone to seeking power and wealth
|regardless of impact outside their bubble is the common
|denominator, every time, no matter the instruments used. for
|every "city destroyed because of bad government", there is
|"country destroyed for private capital interests" that may or
|may not have been aided by "bad government". i don't understand
|the folks who dogmatically regard one (public/government
|entities) as better than the other (private/business entities).
|u/BillNyeForPrez - 1 month
|
|Correct me if I’m wrong as I’m not Brazilian but have spent many
|years in Brazil: the construction of Brasilia basically destroyed
|the Brazilian economy in such a profound way that things never
|really came back to the way they were. The cruzeiro became so
|devalued that the government had to invent a new currency, the real.
|u/VicPL - 1 month
|
|Brazilian here. I honestly never heard of this theory, I'll
|definitely read up on it later. But I think the general
|understanding is more 'macro'. We failed to capitalize on our
|population boom of the 20th century and transition from an economy
|based on agriculture and commodities to one based on services and
|high tech industry. There are many reasons for that, including
|geography, our cultural roots of slavery, oligarchy and classism,
|several coups, most influenced by global geopolitics (ahem, USA
|meddling, ahem) and lack of a governmental long term vision,
|especially concerning education and urbanism. Our story has
|always been a kind of snakes and ladders game. We jump forward
|when someone has a competent run for a few years, then slide back
|down when the next idiot takes his place. That's why there's a
|common saying here that goes "Brazil is the country of the future,
|and always will be". We're perennially at the brink.
|u/BillNyeForPrez - 1 month
|
|Wow, thank you for the eloquent and concise response. I find
|Brazilian history and economics fascinating. I don’t have all
|of my resources on hand but this podcast episode stuck with me:
|https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/12/02/458222801/episode-
|216-how-four-drinking-buddies-saved-brazil
|u/VicPL - 1 month
|
|Cool! The Plano Real is definitely one of the most important
|"ladders" we climbed. I'm saving that podcast for later, for
|sure.
|u/BillNyeForPrez - 1 month
|
|I’d love to know what you think. Or at least if my original
|thesis is based in any sort of fact or a complete
|misunderstanding.
|u/k0rda - 1 month
|
|I would guess rampant poverty caused by massive wealth inequality.
|The rich have gotten richer and poor poorer.
|u/grambell789 - 1 month
|
|Brazil made a lot of money in the 1800s and early 1900s exporting
|agriculture products. but throughout the 1900s due to high degrees
|of mechanization, cost of production of food really took a nose
|dive. profits in agriculture went way down too. Silicy, italy was
|a heavy producer of wheat that they exported everywhere for good
|money, but was during the 1900s lost all those markets and the
|economy suffered severely.
|u/Befuddled_Scrotum - 1 month
|
|Thanks! Sorry to hear that! So many fell during the 20th century due
|to poorly managed governments.
|u/Tokishi7 - 1 month
|
|Beautiful pictures. I still have this idea that Brazil is like that
|in my mind from songs, music and early photos that were popular. I’d
|love to visit someday
|u/BlakesonHouser - 1 month
|
|You ever ponder why Brazil has so many beautiful woman? What
|combined to make that so?
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Racemixing could be one of the reasons, have you seen the
|brazilian girls of japanese descent before? They're a good
|example.
|u/0x4cb - 1 month
|
|I visited Rio a couple years ago and spend a lot of time in Paris. Never
|really made this connection but it absolutely tracks. I will say that
|Rio gave me hidden city/El Dorado vibes in a way. The way architecture
|will melt into the jungle growth, the presence of those otherworldly
|Sugar Loaf mountain/islands, and the energy during Carnival is something
|I can't quite compare to anywhere else I've been to.
|u/KaneIntent - 1 month
|
|Rio was my favorite place out of anywhere I’ve visited in the world. I
|regret that we didn’t get to see more of the city with my tour group.
|u/OneRobato - 1 month
|
|I just watched Notorious (1946) by Hitchcock set in Rio. The streets are
|totally different from Rio I visited 4 yrs ago.
|u/Satzuisbae - 1 month
|
|What happend?
|u/GensouEU - 1 month
|
|Brazil's trajectory towards a Western standard of living in the 19th
|century is mainly attributed to the then Monarch Pedro II, who is
|generally considered to have been an intelligent, capable and
|progressive leader that was loved by his people. Oh little detail is
|that he also abolished slavery. So when rich, conservative landowners
|suddenly had to pay good wages to their workers you will never guess
|what happened next (it was a coup) And it's been pretty much downhill
|from there.
|u/IusedToButNowIdont - 1 month
|
|Main reason to the downfall of Rio is that the capital moved out to
|Brasília. Imagine DC if the Capital of USA (and all the employees
|and institutions) moved to a new city in the middle of Missouri.
|u/ohthedarside - 1 month
|
|Little rhing called military dictatorship
|u/dataknightrises - 1 month
|
|Thanks to the CIA.
|u/ohthedarside - 1 month
|
|No THE BANNA MUST FLOW
|u/potato485 - 1 month
|
|Mmmm money
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|For those who want to know more about this period
|https://youtu.be/fpCKxNBLzRM?feature=shared
|u/gglfrcchbbbjb - 1 month
|
|Thanks for posting that!
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|You're welcome
|u/thegurrkha - 1 month
|
|Thanks so much for this video! I love seeing old footage of cities and
|countries that I have a bit of a connection to. I feel so nostalgic to
|things like this even though I'm not Brazilian (my wife is) and to an
|era that is long before my time. I had a good laugh at like the 2min
|mark when they said they didn't like the fact that the US somehow has
|the monopoly on the word "American". Some things never change. 😂 I'm
|not carioca but I've spent several months in Rio and I absolutely love
|it. One of if not my favourite city. But I do feel a bit heartbroken
|when I see such beautiful architecture all over the place that's so
|poorly maintained if maintained at all. It's sad to see the disrepair.
|I passed by the fire station near downtown like a month ago and was in
|awe. Such a beautiful building! Really wish the rest of the city could
|be maintained like that!
|u/bluewallsbrownbed - 1 month
|
|I’ve never been to Brazil, but it’s sad that the beauty in these photos
|doesn’t exist anymore. I’d imagine with the weather and the beach, the
|Rio in these photos was an ideal place to live.
|u/tcdoey - 1 month
|
|It's amazing the short-sightedness and massive greed that wiped most of
|this out. Happened in many US cities too (like Cleveland and
|Pittsburgh).
|u/abear247 - 1 month
|
|Rio made me sad to visit. Had a few dangerous encounters in just a week
|and felt unsafe the whole time. It was part of a 3 month trip down south
|and Rio was by far the most unsafe. Other places in Brazil were very
|warm and welcoming. It made me sad because with its weather and
|geography with the beautiful ocean and nestled in mountains it should be
|a world class city. The potential is everywhere, but the wealth gap
|seems to have destroyed most of what could have been.
|u/rafael000 - 1 month
|
|Yep, it's been rougher in Rio than other Brazilian cities for a while
|now. Sad indeed.
|u/RecordingGreen7750 - 1 month
|
|I love Rio
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|It's a good place to live if you have money and can afford to live on
|a richer neighbourhood.
|u/RecordingGreen7750 - 1 month
|
|Never lived there only visited and I fell in love with the place
|there is something so special about it
|u/Huenyan - 1 month
|
|That describes pretty much every medium to big city on the planet.
|u/ecn9 - 1 month
|
|Nah Houston is pretty mid to live in no matter how much money you
|have. If anything it's better to be middle class there lol.
|u/LibertyLizard - 1 month
|
|Almost every city from this time was beautiful until cars and modern
|architecture ruined them.
|u/Connect_Progress7862 - 1 month
|
|The only European capital to ever have been outside of Europe
|u/punktilend - 1 month
|
|Isn't Buenos Aires known as "Paris of the South"?
|u/patoruzu3 - 1 month
|
|Some parts of Buenos Aires still have this architecture
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Many cities were compared to Paris in the past because of its glamour.
|u/avoidtheworm - 1 month
|
|They say London is the Paris of Europe.
|u/CPSux - 1 month
|
|In the mid-20th century, South America was expected to emerge as an
|extremely prosperous region, developed to the level of North America
|or Europe.
|u/grimgroth - 1 month
|
|Yes, and these pictures remind me of Buenos Aires
|u/SoDrunkRightNow4 - 1 month
|
|It's still just like Paris! ...in the sense that when you visit
|you'll be robbed
|u/General_Departure583 - 1 month
|
|Absolutely stunning!
|u/SyphillusPhallio - 1 month
|
|Funny, given Paris/France/Napoleon invading Portugal kicked off Rio de
|Janeiro's explosion when the Portuguese court established themselves
|there in exile.
|u/No_Simple_1797 - 1 month
|
|Most of these buildings were demolished.
|u/mozee880 - 1 month
|
|Wow, that's ironic. Beautiful architectural structure. What happened?
|u/Plane_Passion - 1 month
|
|Modernism and bad political choices. Rio is still beautiful though,
|especially nature-wise. It has a certain "magical" vibe to it that you
|will not find anywhere else. You must be there to feel it.
|u/mozee880 - 1 month
|
|I've been to Brasil, Belo Horizonte, Ouro Preto, and Brasilia but
|never had the chance to visit Rio. All of Brasil has this magical
|vibe. Brasilian has this way of enjoying each day with food and
|drinks 24/7 I can relate.
|u/sadolddrunk - 1 month
|
|Detroit used to be called "the Paris of the Midwest." Beirut used to be
|called "the Paris of the Middle East." I think the lesson to be learned
|here is that it's probably unwise to call your city the Paris of
|something.
|u/favnh2011 - 1 month
|
|Very nice
|u/CanineAnaconda - 1 month
|
|The opera house from that era is still there and it’s stunning
|u/ErBitchCZ - 1 month
|
|Now is Parish call Evropien Slum
|u/mild-hot-fire - 1 month
|
|See what a bad government can do?
|u/codinwizrd - 1 month
|
|Lock up the criminals like El Salvador and I bet this could be reality
|again.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Sure
|u/GuyDebord_de_mer - 1 month
|
|Crazy to think baile funk will originate from here
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|About 70 or 80 years after that.
|u/Silver_Quail4018 - 1 month
|
|Everything was a Paris back then. Bucharest was called little Paris.
|Other cities too.
|u/TSKnightmare - 1 month
|
|It's now known as "The Tropical Bradford".
|u/Winged_One_97 - 1 month
|
|And... They tore it all down...
|u/OrangeCosmic - 1 month
|
|Second empire in the tropics is so crazy to think about now that so much
|of it isn't around anymore
|u/Benromaniac - 1 month
|
|Pictures of Ghosts
|u/BlacklightChainsaw - 1 month
|
| As opposed to Rio de Janeiro (Ohio)
|u/Thediciplematt - 1 month
|
|Now show the favalas.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Favelas were not really a thing in this time, they were starting to
|appear as black people after the abolition of slavery didn't have a
|place to settle so they started the favelas.
|u/KingPyotr - 1 month
|
|This is actually mostly incorrect. The infamous favelas in Rio were
|built after major City renovations were being made, to the point
|that they were evicting homeowners and bringing down buildings. This
|around the 1900s-1920s. The poorest, including former slaves, would
|live further out in the periphery (many even joining quilombos of
|their time).  You may remember that around this time the Vaccine
|revolt happened, which had less to do with superstition and more to
|do with the population generally disliking the aggressive and
|downright reckless policies being implemented with little to no
|thought on the well-being of the populace (even mandatory vaccines
|were implemented more to "appear" modern than for actual health) 
|TL;DR Rio was massively gentrified and the favelas are a result of
|that. A government more interested in looking advanced than actually
|being advanced.
|u/Puzzleheaded-Leg5949 - 1 month
|
|They did this fancy urban reform to try change the fact that the city
|popular nickname was tourist grave. The thing I hate about it is that,
|well, they surely made the city safer for a brief moment, but to achieve
|this shitty parisian look they torn down large buildings in the main
|streets where the poor lived (there was mora than one family in each
|room) without giving them a place to live, one of the reasons of the
|beginning of the favelas.
|u/AKICombatLegend - 1 month
|
|What happened to it??
|u/DM_ME_UR_BOOBS69 - 1 month
|
|What the hell happened?
|u/prefuse07 - 1 month
|
|Massive corruption
|u/pacard - 1 month
|
|Pretty buildings, but those people have to be absolutely boiling in
|those outfits.
|u/Jestyr_ - 1 month
|
|I'd love to see a side by side, see what buildings are still there and
|what has been changed.
|u/lukinhasb - 1 month
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|And then they kicked out Dom Pedro II and all went to hell.
|u/bauhausy - 1 month
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|Every single building you see pictured is built during the Republican
|era, more specifically the 1900’s. They’re all from Pereira Passos’
|urban renewal program
|u/sodapops82 - 1 month
|
|Tromsø (in northern Norway) is called the Paris of the North. Not
|kidding. It’s been called that for a 100 years or so. If you look Tromsø
|in google street view you would be baffled over the comparison. It’s
|said that the reason was that some foreign (French?) journalists visited
|Tromsø and reported back that the women there dressed so well and the
|food was so good, just like in Paris.
|u/Resident-Resolve612 - 1 month
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|A lot of south American cities were built on “the image” of European
|cities, since they colonised the whole thing. The same thing is heard
|about cities like Buenos Aires. I like how in the end the
|particularities of the Latin American culture won over the European
|roots. It’s better that our cities have their own personality
|u/punktilend - 1 month
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|What’s it known as now?
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Hell de Janeiro
|u/Huenyan - 1 month
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|The Tropical Detroit.
|u/arup02 - 1 month
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|Shitneiro, city sucks and it's dangerous as fuck.
|u/Sonnenschein69420 - 1 month
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|Yeah I always wanted to see that. Very sad how things turned out.
|u/Ybalrid - 1 month
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|That is quite the Haussmannian vibe indeed
|u/MataHari66 - 1 month
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|Tropical??
|u/Chainedheat - 1 month
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|The one key difference between these two cities is physical geography.
|Unlike Paris, Rio is located where the mountains rise directly out of
|the sea so there is little land to build on. The city has kind of had to
|reinvent itself (filling in parts of the bay, creating bigger buildings
|etc..) more than once to accommodate the population growth over time.
|Expanding outward is also pretty expensive for the city to accommodate
|since it requires tunneling through the mountains which in turn creates
|bottleneck for traffic making it less desirable for people who work in
|the city center. Even today there are many projects where they are
|demolishing apartment buildings built in the 60’-80’s to build taller
|ones with more desirable amenities.
|u/Mister_GarbageDick - 1 month
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|Got lost in this world and I found myself in Rioooo
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|I bet old Japan had one.
|u/Beautiful-Bicycle-30 - 1 month
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|Europe was already there
|u/KirbyourGame - 1 month
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|I wonder what changed?
|u/ayedeeaay - 1 month
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|Family guy was right after all!
|u/graumet - 1 month
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|Cars really steal all the beauty away.
|u/BlueTeamMember - 1 month
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|the last pic has a hashtag reddit ampersand @ orioantigo WTF?????
|u/MakkaCha - 1 month
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|India and Brazil I feel are examples of mass population growth and
|urbanization without proper infrastructure to support the said
|population. Many other developing countries are following the same
|trajectory. S.Korea and Singapore are to me example of what happens if
|they have competent government who invests in infrastructure.
|u/Nawnp - 1 month
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|So many cities in the Americas that copied their European owners cities
|that later abandoned them. In fairness Rio is a different type of
|beautiful today.
|u/TroyMatthewJ - 1 month
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|just walking right in the middle of the street.
|u/NoMoreNoise305 - 1 month
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|Any one else see pictures like this & wonder where are the descendants
|of the people in them?
|u/Weary-Pangolin6539 - 1 month
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|I thought Buenos Aires was considered the Paris of South America?
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|The Paris of South America, not The Tropical Paris.
|u/Weary-Pangolin6539 - 1 month
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|Damn you’re right. I didn’t know Brazil wasn’t in South America, and
|Argentina wasn’t in the tropical zone. I take back my comment.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Argentina isn't in tropical zone dumbass.
|u/Weary-Pangolin6539 - 1 month
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|I’m going to let you walk back that statement. 1: No need for
|name calling and 2: Argentina does have land above the Tropic of
|Capricorn which means what… read a book you’re wrong.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Is BUENOS AIRES in the tropical zone? No! So don't try to look
|smart telling people to grab a book when you're wrong.
|u/Weary-Pangolin6539 - 1 month
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|Did you read my initial message? Did you read YOUR response?
|You’re wrong lmao
|u/FriendlyLittleTomato - 1 month
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|I need to see these with color restoration.
|u/FlyTim3 - 1 month
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|The Roths invested heavily into Brazil around that time.
|u/Billy_the_psychopath - 1 month
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|XX: The Tropical Paris XXI: The Trop- STOP, STOP, STOP, THIS IS AN
|ASSAULT!!!!!
|u/9Mojo_jojo4 - 1 month
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|Beautiful architecture
|u/kosaka1618 - 1 month
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|What a sad fall from grace.
|u/Grenaten - 1 month
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|Are those buildings still there?
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Some of them.
|u/lkledu - 1 month
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|Lindo
|u/meowsplaining - 1 month
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|Saint Denis vibes
|u/Sidlox - 1 month
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|Brazil and the Philippines truly are brothers.
|u/The_Piplup34 - 1 month
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|A glimpse into the past—Rio de Janeiro was stunning even back then!
|u/Tbmadpotato - 1 month
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|This sounds ignorant but I would’ve assumed that Brazil would have been
|far behind the MEDCs of today in the 20th century.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|What are MEDCs?
|u/Tbmadpotato - 1 month
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|More economically developed countries (such as the United States,
|the UK, and France)
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Brazil was a very different country from today, the gap of
|development between Brazil and these countries was not as big as
|today.
|u/The_Goat-Whisperer - 1 month
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|What's it known as now?
|u/holyrooster_ - 1 month
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|These are the kinds of buildings that can enrich your society for 200
|years or more. I hope they are still there, but given how broken Western
|city were in the 60-80, I am fearful to learn.
|u/Obama_prismIsntReal - 1 month
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|.
|u/javierich0 - 1 month
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|Let me guess, what did the CIA do here?
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|Brasil was the last country to outlaw and emancipate slavery. The US was
|number 2.
|u/Ynwe - 1 month
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|Absolutely not true, a bunch of African and Arab countries outlawed it
|much later. Countries like Mauretania still have it basically today,
|you have an Arab elite that enslaves a huge chunk of the black
|population
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|As a State Law
|u/Affectionate_Bee6434 - 1 month
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|its Mauritania
|u/houdvast - 1 month
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|There were and still are many countries where slavery remains to be
|abolished. The horrors of the Congo Free State and the Coolie system
|al happened after the end of American chattel slavery. Indentured
|servitude and outright chattel slavery is still ongoing in the middle
|east and parts of Africa.
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|Yes and if people are wondering who built this wonderful city back
|them it was them. Then they freed them and made them all fend for
|themselves.
|u/houdvast - 1 month
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|I doubt that. Typically construction worker was specialized
|profession not performed by slaves throughout history.
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|Let me show you exhibit A The pyramids
|u/houdvast - 1 month
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|Exhibit of what exactly? The idea that the pyramids were built
|by slaves is an infamous historical misconception.
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|Because we fucking know? Lol like we don't even know how to
|build them today or why that electron does something
|different when we look at it. But yeah you know because
|someone said so.
|u/Affectionate_Bee6434 - 1 month
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|????
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|If you know you know
|u/Ahad_Haam - 1 month
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|Not even remotely true. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Yemen, UAE, etc
|only banned slavery in the 1960s-1970s. Arab countries that were under
|British or French rule banned it earlier, but still it was usually
|only in the 1920s-1930s. The last country to ban slavery is
|Mauritania.
|u/Xtianus21 - 1 month
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|Who had slaves in 1970? Whatttt. No seriously when I visited brasil
|that's what they told me on the tour.
|u/Ahad_Haam - 1 month
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|Oman, the UAE and Mauritania. The Moroccan monarchy also held sex
|slaves until the 1990s, but slavery was generally banned besides
|that. >when I visited brasil that's what they told me on the
|tour. They probably meant in the Americas, but that is still
|incorrect as Cuba banned slavery after the US as well (and perhaps
|other countries too, but I'm not that familiar with it).
|u/titsmuhgeee - 1 month
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|True, but it's hard to comprehend the scale of slavery in Brazil.
|388,000 African slaves were imported to North America.
|**4,000,000** African slaves were imported to Brazil. Brazil's economy
|was quite literally built on slavery for their core economic output.
|Once slavery ended in 1888, it started a long downward trend for
|Brazil that they never recovered from.
|u/MrHotAndSpicy8 - 1 month
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|Wow can’t wait to see these pics on tik tok in a week proving that there
|was a secret history timeline called “tartartia” (no actually pls look
|it up)
|u/yenttirb - 1 month
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|I came here for this comment! I’m in the throes of alternate
|timeline/tartaria research and these photos definitely hit different
|with that info in the back of my mind.
|u/Primal_Pedro - 1 month
|
|Really cool pictures! But I thought Manaus was known as "tropical Paris"
|u/jacktheriipper999 - 1 month
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|when there's no favela yet
|u/bauhausy - 1 month
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|Those buildings are partially responsible for the favelas. To build
|those wide streets and monumental commercial and office buildings,
|they razed large parts of the colonial and imperial-era central core
|of Rio de Janeiro, which was high density and full of cheap tenements
|buildings. Those residents got zero aid or any type of assistance, so
|they informally settled on the many hills of Rio so they’d stay close
|to their workplaces. The first favela originated a couple decades
|before (after the Canudos war, when soldiers which were promised
|houses by fighting and but were shafted after they returned to Rio,
|settled on Providencia hill), but exploded in size during those 1920’s
|urban renewals of central Rio
|u/grossbard - 1 month
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|I had heard Buenos Aires described as Paris of South America. Now I'm
|confused!
|u/ThetaReactor - 1 month
|
|I always found it fascinating that a city named after a bay named after
|a month would end up being called "river". Language is neat.
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|January River. Lol
|u/bone_appletea1 - 1 month
|
|Such a beautiful city and country. The current state of Brazil as a
|whole is a shame
|u/Alternative-Raise-32 - 1 month
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|And today, Rio de Janeiro is just a whole corrupted estate with a lot of
|drugs, bandits, factions and civil war. Extremely dangerous place to
|live in.
|u/MoravianPrince - 1 month
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|Damn those old trams are sexy af.
|u/Man-e-questions - 1 month
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|Hardly any monkeys
|u/DreamOfParadox - 1 month
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|And now rio de janiro is better than paris of today
|u/Carnieus - 1 month
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|What are you basing the comparison on?
|u/winstondabee - 1 month
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|Corruption
|u/Carnieus - 1 month
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|Corruption in Paris is worse than corruption in Rio?
|u/winstondabee - 1 month
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|The comment said better. I don't know.
|u/No-Order-4309 - 1 month
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|if your perception of a place is based on ecology, food and music, yes
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
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|Both have fallen tremendously.
|u/Carnieus - 1 month
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|Dunno man Paris is still pretty swanky. I haven't visited Rio so
|can't say but to call Paris "fallen" is being a little dramatic and
|not true.
|u/Blizzcane - 1 month
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|I refuse to believe this is not AI
|u/Domeriko648 - 1 month
|
|Let me guess, you believe brazilians live in the jungle, walk on semi-
|naked and have pet monkeys, right?
|u/Blizzcane - 1 month
|
|If you say so
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