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Conjoined twins Tatiana and Krista can hear each other’s thoughts and |
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|u/rushfolk - 1 month |
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|There is a documentary. Tatiana can apparently see out of both of |
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|Krista's eyes, and Krista can see out of one of Tatiana's eyes. https:/ |
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|/web.archive.org/web/20200303205006/https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/episod |
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|Interesting, at all times or does she have any kind of control over |
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|u/GR7ME - 1 month |
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|And I wonder if … using her eyes prevents her from seeing at that |
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|u/verticalfuzz - 1 month |
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|"Unable to establish a connection. Please make sure the com port |
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|is available and try again" |
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|404 Eyes not found |
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|u/tesfabpel - 1 month |
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|I'm trying to imagine how they see things with 3 / 4 eyes in their |
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|minds... We place the data we see from the two eyes side-by-side. |
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|What about them? |
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|u/anon123_anon - 1 month |
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|Same here! Are they "separate panels" of sight? Is it a coherent |
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|panoramic view? If one shifts their eyes suddenly, does the other |
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|see straight while the edge blurs away? This is so wild and pretty |
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|much impossible to comprehend. |
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|u/Nattekat - 1 month |
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|A lot of the world you see isn't the result of your eyes doing |
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|stuff, it's your brain making sense of it. There's a pretty large |
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|blind spot that many can't even find even if they tried to give an |
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|example of this process. If you go blind, you won't see black, |
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|instead there's just nothing. Can you even imagine that? This |
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|could work in two ways: either it's added to the peripheral vision |
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|if the brain can make some sense of things, or it's merged |
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|together in a strange form of diplopia. |
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|Nothing? |
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|u/Nattekat - 1 month |
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|Yes, even black requires functional eyes. It's like looking |
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|through the back of your head. We see nothing that way. |
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|u/quantasplay - 1 month |
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|Cover your eye with your palm. Now answer what you see with |
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|your closed eye, looking straight ahead with your open eye 👀 |
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|u/bethebumblebee - 1 month |
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|Without turning around, what do you see behind your head right |
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|now? |
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|u/bhonbeg - 1 month |
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|Yeah it's a mind fuck tbh |
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|u/Separate_Cranberry33 - 1 month |
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|I’d assume that if they are both looking at the same thing they’d |
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|have wild depth perception and when looking at different things it |
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|would be as if they were one person crossing their eyes. Since |
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|they grew up with the ability I’d guess they can filter out the |
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|other twin’s vision. |
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|u/Capable_Tumbleweed34 - 1 month |
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|One of the favorite dream i've ever had, was having 360° vision. It |
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|was not janky or distorted, just purely natural 360° view that felt |
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|as normal as breathing air, i became aware of the dreaming halfway |
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|through and was actually surprised by how clear everything looked |
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|and how well it performed. Hard to describe, but it convinced me |
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|that we already have the software for that, we just lack the |
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|hardware. So my guess would be that they simply have a wider field |
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|of view, as the brain will simply interpret the data it's fed and |
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|put a coherent image together. |
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|u/btribble - 1 month |
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|The left side of both of your eyes goes to the right hemisphere of |
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|your brain and the right side of both of your eyes goes to the left |
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|hemisphere. A single eye vs two eyes really makes little difference |
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|except for depth perception and total field of view. However, what |
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|they're each "seeing" has already been processed somewhat in the |
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|other twin's visual cortex, so they're not receiving images so much |
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|as recieving already processed information: "There is a cat here". |
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|u/spidelope - 1 month |
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|We don’t use 100% of our senses all of the time. Senses like smell |
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|and touch we tune in and out of. An extra stream of vision could |
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|just be another non-primary sense you ignore until you need it, or |
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|something brings it to your attention. |
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|u/rushfolk - 1 month |
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|https://youtu.be/VGslJPaxbD8?si=AWZnbLxaCHJ6yE8j you can watch the |
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|documentary here!! it's very great. |
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|u/MichiganInTexas - 1 month |
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|Very interesting documentary. Thank you for sharing it. |
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|u/EscapedFromArea51 - 1 month |
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|That fact is actually much more interesting than them being able to |
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|see out of each others’ eyes, which is already really interesting by |
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|itself. I’ll need to read any research they may have done on their |
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|brain to see if they learned something new about how our brains |
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|process vision! |
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|u/Justthetip1996 - 1 month |
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|No lie, I think I would have a crazy headache all the time |
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|u/WangusRex - 1 month |
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|So wild to think about what their perspective of "self" must be like? I |
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|think we all kind of having duality of thought sometimes but if they |
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|individually have that and then also their shared thoughts...and then |
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|being able to literally see from each others perspective... hard to |
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|imagine. EDIT: “have duality of thought” typo |
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|u/-PM_ME_UR_SECRETS- - 1 month |
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|Right? People saying they would never be alone, I wonder if their |
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|‘self’ includes both ‘selves’. Like they’re both two separate people |
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|but also the same individual? So they would be alone, but together? |
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|What happens when they meditate? Or if they were to take shrooms or |
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|something? It’s hard to wrap my head around it all. |
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|u/vonPetrozk - 1 month |
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|Can it happen that one of them gets asleep while the other one is |
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|awake? Would it be the alone time that most of us know? Would they |
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|see each others dreams or would that be ablack out? |
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|u/child_interrupted - 1 month |
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|And on the very dark side of possibilities, can one experience |
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|brain death but the other survive? Death of a close sibling can |
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|already be crushing. That sounds like true horror to even think |
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|about... |
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|u/memescryptor - 1 month |
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|Damn that's such a good question, so curious to know |
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|u/ablackcloudupahead - 1 month |
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|Our "selves" are basically just a bunch of individual organisms |
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|working in concert anyways |
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|u/cutelyaware - 1 month |
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|And here we are, a bunch of individual organisms working together. |
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|The pattern is not a coincidence. |
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|u/Dragnskull - 1 month |
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|Sure, but those usually merge together into a single |
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|consciousness. In this case there's two with shared access. |
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|Extremely different. |
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|u/LionaltheGreat - 1 month |
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|Is it two? I’m not so sure. There are two physical bodies, and |
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|two conjoined brains, but what is the dividing line between |
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|them? They may perceive themselves as “two”, but that does not |
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|make it so. People with multiple personality disorder also |
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|perceive themselves as individuals, even though they all live in |
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|the same brain. To take this thought experiment further, the |
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|two lobes of your brain often operate independently, with some |
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|coordination in between. Is this not a similar situation? Who |
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|knows, but fun to think about |
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|u/Dragnskull - 1 month |
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|Pretty sure they each have a separate hemisphere for |
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|themselves and then the one conjoining them ... Maybe there's |
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|3 "people" in there... |
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|u/-PM_ME_UR_SECRETS- - 1 month |
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|The dividing line gets super blurry considering they can |
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|literally see out of each others eyes and have some form of |
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|understanding each other’s thoughts. I need to watch the |
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|documentary I guess. |
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|u/YandereYunoGasai - 1 month |
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|Reminds me of that one boxing fight in cyberpunk 2077 |
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|u/Call_Me_Pete - 1 month |
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|We’re NOT TWINS! It’s JUST ME! The girlfriend discussion was the |
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|real knockout of that mission |
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|u/YandereYunoGasai - 1 month |
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|for real xD |
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|u/SensitiveObject2 - 1 month |
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|Fascinating. Do they each see themselves as one half of the whole |
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|self or are they so intertwined that such a distinction is difficult |
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|to make. |
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|u/Proof_Ad2876 - 1 month |
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|They probably can’t wrap their head around it either |
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|u/Digi-i - 1 month |
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|We are Borg |
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|u/Nick_Newk - 1 month |
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|Would they talk to each other in private??? Or just communicate |
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|telepathically? |
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|u/Dalisca - 1 month |
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|I imagine it's like the Borg collective but a party of two. |
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|u/NorthNorthAmerican - 1 month |
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|Again, my perception of the world has changed. Thank you. |
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|u/MediocrityEnjoyer - 1 month |
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|I mean, do they have separate egos and share their subconscious, Do |
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|they dream in co-op mode? |
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|u/pycior - 1 month |
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|Each half of your brain is already a separate being - try the rabbit |
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|hole of "split-brain" syndrome. I can imagine that they do form a meta |
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|concious with extra minds than usual. |
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|u/King_Ulkilulki - 1 month |
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|Dude you gave me the biggest mindfuck in years probably oof I will |
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|investigate that really hard. The video posted below by |
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|dead_pixel_design is good, any other recommendations? |
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|u/dead_pixel_design - 1 month |
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|Great video by CGP Grey about experiences of some people studied who |
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|have had their Corpus Callosum severed: |
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|https://youtu.be/wfYbgdo8e-8?si=rIyfStWZGwkvk48g |
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|u/MinuetInUrsaMajor - 1 month |
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|Being able to see from someone else’s perspective is easy. Just look |
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|through a toy periscope with one eye, while leaving the other eye |
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|bare. You’ll adjust quicker than you’d imagine if you keep it this |
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|way. |
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|u/corruptedsyntax - 1 month |
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|The ethical implications are pretty fascinating here as well. |
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|Obviously we have concluded these are two distinct persons. I would |
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|guess that we have concluded they each legally own one of the two |
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|conjoined bodies based on who can control what, but that becomes so |
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|much murkier if one or both can control either. Not to mention the |
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|grim reality that one of the two bodies is likely to perish before the |
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|other at some point. When that happens they might undergo radical |
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|surgery to save one of the two bodies. Will the corresponding |
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|consciousness be the sole consciousness or will they have a copilot? |
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|u/Temporary-Option-679 - 1 month |
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|That's a fascinating thought experiment! It really is hard to imagine |
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|how that level of shared consciousness would affect one's sense of |
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|self. If you're interested in exploring these ideas further, check |
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|out the [Nexus Trilogy by Ramez |
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|Naam](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nexus_Trilogy). It's science |
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|fiction set forty years in the future where people can take a drug |
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|that lets them share thoughts, meditate together, and experience a |
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|'hive mind'. The books delve into how this technology impacts |
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|individual identity and society as a whole. |
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|Did they pay for one or two? |
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|Yesn't |
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|Aladeen |
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|Best reference Ive ever seen |
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|Aladeen. |
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|Underrated reference |
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|its an aladeen reference |
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|You are H.I.V. Aladeen |
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|:) :( :) |
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|Yope |
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|Yo |
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|It doesn't matter, they have a joint bank account |
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|So they split it right down the middle? |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Seriously. They’re both very pretty girls, too. My first thought was |
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|“it would be so trippy to hear someone else’s thoughts.” But then I |
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|remembered they’ve never known anything else; this is normal for them. |
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|u/scorpyo72 - 1 month |
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|Like trying to explain a migraine to someone. I didn't really |
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|u/ilski - 1 month |
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|For me its ringing in my ears. I thought sound of quiet was |
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|basically ringing. well turns out its not. |
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|u/fuqdisshite - 1 month |
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|a lot of deaf patients that have their hearing restored ask why |
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|u/fuqdisshite - 1 month |
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|not really u/jack_the_cunt the Sun, if we had atmosphere, |
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|like the Earth, all the way to the Sun, it would be like a |
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|jet engine for everyone in sunlight at all times. pretty |
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|easy to map. |
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|u/BeMyPenPalPlease - 1 month |
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|Tinnitus gang assemble! |
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|u/Zito6694 - 1 month |
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|EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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|u/Menarra - 1 month |
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|As I read this in a quiet bathroom: "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" |
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|u/judasmachine - 1 month |
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|u/Lurker-398576-239 - 1 month |
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|If i focus hard i can tone it down or up for a second or |
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|two so its EeeeEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeEeEeEEEEEEEEeee :( |
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|u/JellyGuliano - 1 month |
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|I‘ve got two different tinnitus, one left, one right. |
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|The one left is very high pitched, the other one has the |
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|same relaxing frequency than my Barthroom fan. |
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|u/ItchyJam - 1 month |
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|to get to sleep, and sounds like someone is running |
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|their car outside nearby. Left is the attention |
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|seeking 24/7 screamer. |
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|What? |
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|u/BeMyPenPalPlease - 1 month |
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|TINNITUS GANG ASSEMBLE!! |
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|u/bigpancakeguy - 1 month |
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|*EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE* |
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|u/Pornstar_Jesus_ - 1 month |
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|*Turns loud fan back on* |
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|u/CaddyAT5 - 1 month |
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|r/tinnitus we’re assembled here |
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|u/BeMyPenPalPlease - 1 month |
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|Ooo of course there is a tinnitus subreddit. Joined! |
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|u/Mikash33 - 1 month |
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|MAWP |
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|u/BizzyM - 1 month |
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|Mwap, mwap |
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|u/Tre_Fo_Eye_Sore - 1 month |
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|It’s been so long since I didn’t have tinnitus that it has |
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|become my normal. Before I spent a few years as a Tomcat |
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|maintainer and worked around jets on a flight deck/flightline. |
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|I just got used to having to have the tv or a fan on while I |
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|sleep or else the EEEEEEEEEEEEEE is deafening when it is |
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|completely quiet. Cest La Vie! |
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|u/realityinflux - 1 month |
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|Thank you. Now I can hear the ringing in my ear. |
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|u/DMala - 1 month |
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|Same here. The good part of it is you’re acclimated to it. I |
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|don’t even notice unless I’m concentrating on it (like right |
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|now, thanks). People who develop it as adults really suffer |
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|with it. |
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|u/bmaurene - 1 month |
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|I hope very much that Krista and Tatiana don’t have migraines! |
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|u/scorpyo72 - 1 month |
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|Can you imagine sharing a migraine? How awful.. |
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|u/bmaurene - 1 month |
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|Multi++++ congrats to their family and pediatricians + all |
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|specialists who have cared for them from birth to have raised |
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|such healthy gorgeous girls. Really, all of you including K & |
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|T deserve gold medals!! I remember seeing K & T’s birth |
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|notice and have followed progress over the years and feel |
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|enormously awed and pleased for all of you. |
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|u/OneFootTitan - 1 month |
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|I only found out that weird pattern that sometimes hits my vision |
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|was a migraine aura late in my 30s, when I saw a meme with it. |
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|Previously I had tried describing it to my doctor but very poorly. |
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|Didn’t know you could get migraines with just the aura and without |
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|the headache |
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|u/scorpyo72 - 1 month |
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|Mine were like two or more people were fighting in my head and |
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|wouldn't shut up. If I buried my head and blocked my eyes from |
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|receiving light, it seemed to quiet down. I haven't experienced |
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|it much as an adult, but it happened regularly in my teens. |
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|u/Drakaryscannon - 1 month |
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|My migraines would put me in such physical pain I would want |
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|to vomit after vomiting I’d take a shower and go to bed. |
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|Thankfully they are very rare in adult hood cuz that’s not a |
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|fun “remedy” |
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|u/Druuseph - 1 month |
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|I experienced my first one a year or so ago and struggled for a |
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|while to articulate what it was I was experiencing. Same thing |
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|as well, no pain at all so 'migraine' was never even a thought |
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|in my head until I stumbled on someone else talking about it by |
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|coincidence. |
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|u/iheartdinosaurs_rawr - 1 month |
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| I got my first migraine aura (no headache) in the middle of a |
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|college class. I legitimately thought I was going blind - it was |
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|terrifying! Ran back to my dorm and panic called my mom then my |
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|doctor....only for them to not be concerned about it (oh, not |
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|unusual side effect from BCP...??) and tell me to just let them |
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|know if it started happening more frequently. 17 years (and many |
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|a migraine and aura) later I'm just annoyed I have had to learn |
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|about migraine/aura primarily on my own and it took way longer |
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|than it should have for me to finally understand... |
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|u/angiehawkeye - 1 month |
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|That happened to me a couple times in my first pregnancy and has |
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|happened again a couple times in my current one. Really weird. |
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|u/Kytyn - 1 month |
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|“Zigzag pulse-y colorful glowy thing that’s slightly curved that |
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|starts small then gets bigger and bigger til it’s no longer in |
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|my field of vision” I also had no idea what it was. My ocular |
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|migraines happened right around menopause and now seem to have |
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|stopped since I’ve been on HRT. 🤷🏻♀️ |
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|u/tetrark - 1 month |
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|I have the same problem explaining Misophonia to people. The idea |
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|that certain sounds, no matter how loud or quiet they are, can |
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|cause physical pain to other parts of the body is difficult for |
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|most people to understand. It took my wife a long time to |
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|comprehend that I was in actual pain and not just annoyed by |
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|specific sounds. |
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|u/josiahpapaya - 1 month |
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|In my restaurant I have to walk away when a particular chef is |
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|cutting up steak because his knife always grazes the fork and |
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|it’s like having my hair pulled |
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|u/dabbydabdabdabdab - 1 month |
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|OMFG hearing metal scratch metal like that makes my teeth |
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|nerves zing |
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|u/Branwyn- - 1 month |
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|My husband didn’t really empathize with my migraines until I drew |
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|an aura for him. Seeing it as I see it stunned him and now he |
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|takes more care when I have them. |
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|u/cfiggis - 1 month |
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|> until I drew an aura for him What do you mean by this? How |
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|does drawing an aura help him understand? |
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|u/Branwyn- - 1 month |
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|Drawing what I am experiencing was a different way to |
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|communicate what I see and feel. It makes it more real. The |
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|auras I get are like silvery jagged rainbow halos that grow |
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|until they fill my sight. Putting that onto paper gave him a |
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|visual of a concept he couldn’t imagine himself. |
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|u/gopherphart - 1 month |
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|I get those but without any pain. They are very weird. |
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|u/Alasse_ - 1 month |
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|So do I! The first two times that I got those auras, I did |
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|get a massive headache afterwards (not sure if it was a |
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|proper migraine, or just a banging headache), but every |
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|single time after that has been totally pain-free, |
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|somehow. Very weird. |
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|u/noneedtoprogram - 1 month |
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|As a teenager I had a few migraines, which were all |
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|preceded by the visual aura, then one day I got the aura |
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|and was grimly anticipating the migraine but it never |
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|came. Since then I've thankfully not had another. |
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|u/the_tchotchke - 1 month |
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|They’re called ocular migraines! I had one last year and |
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|rushed to the doctor. Thought I was having a seizure. |
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|u/Dreaded1 - 1 month |
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|[Scintillating Scotoma](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scinti |
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|llating_scotoma) |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|I’m glad you were able to make him understand better. Migraines |
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|aren’t “a bad headache.” They can be a whole different reality. |
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|u/eagleskullla - 1 month |
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|Auras are sometimes visual like this, but apparently sensitivity |
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|to light in general is considered an aura. I get stomach |
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|migraines with aura, which is characterized by lots of burping |
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|and intense nausea (sometimes to the point of vomiting) that is |
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|made worse by light exposure and is sometimes accompanied by |
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|headaches. ((Not a super relevant comment; putting it here just |
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|because it took me so long to get a diagnosis and treatment |
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|because it was not intuitive to me that my symptoms could be |
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|migraines. I thought aura meant *seeing things* and migraines |
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|meant head pain.)) |
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|u/Friendlystranger247 - 1 month |
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|I described my migraines as “after being stabbed multiple time in |
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|the brain with a screwdriver, someone tickles my optical nerve |
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|with the tip of a knife blade!” Oh boy can’t wait for the next |
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|one! |
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|u/Hamchalupasupreme - 1 month |
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|I always thought people who complained about migraines were being |
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|dramatic and I couldn’t understand why they didn’t just take advil |
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|and go about their day. I honestly thought it was another word for |
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|a normal headache. Until I got my first migraine. |
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|u/conradr10 - 1 month |
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|Just tell them imagine if it felt like there was a knife in your |
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|head level pain and every sound and light source make it feel like |
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|your heart is pounding on the inside of your eyeballs… oh and it |
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|can last from 10 hour to 20 days |
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|u/the_idea_pig - 1 month |
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|I didn't take migraines seriously until I got one for the first |
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|time. Always thought, "just take some ibuprofen, it's a headache." |
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|Then I had one and was lying in bed for nine hours. Light and |
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|sound were unbearable. It was debilitating. |
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|u/ConeyDog - 1 month |
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|Wait, what? You can hear colors? Please explain. |
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|u/Nerdler1 - 1 month |
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|It's a condition where areas of the brain have more connections |
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|between the senses. Some people can taste something and get a |
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|colour visual, or hear something and see colours associated to it. |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Great explanation. This is basically it. The cells that do my |
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|auditory processing are also triggering my visual cortex, in a |
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|consistent way. Maybe neurons cross wired during development; |
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|maybe some neurons aren’t completely insulated by glial cells, |
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|and the electric impulses communicate to nearby neurons. There |
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|are lots of different forms of synesthesia out there. Other |
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|people experience linkage between numbers/colors, smells/shapes, |
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|letters/colors, etc. I also have to turn off music to really |
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|focus on a distinct smell. That one even strikes me as bizarre. |
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|u/Nerdler1 - 1 month |
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|Fascinating. Our brains are amazing. Does it ever become |
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|overwhelming? What senses of yours seem "linked"? |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Yeah, sometimes it does. Lol! One of the hardest things I |
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|ever did to myself was to try to write a paper about audio- |
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|visual synesthesia, including my own experience with it, for |
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|a class on neural coding. A neighbor was playing music |
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|loudly. Ear plugs didn’t quite block it out. I couldn’t |
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|“tune it out” because it was the subject I was focusing on. |
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|I literally couldn’t hear myself think! It was so |
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|frustrating and ridiculous at the same time. But yes, in |
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|general, if I’m tired, stressed, or just really need to |
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|concentrate, I can’t have music playing. That was dangerous |
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|at least once when something I saw “coming at me” wasn’t |
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|actually something I saw, but something I heard. I was |
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|driving late at night and could have gone off the road. In |
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|normal situations, I can keep that straight without effort. |
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|u/Nerdler1 - 1 month |
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|Oof, so the visuals can be so strong than you think it's |
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|actually there? That must be terrifying sometimes |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|It doesn’t happen very often, thankfully. I did |
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|something similar to myself last week when I hung some |
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|bags of spices from the inside of a cupboard door. I |
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|KNEW they were there - but that didn’t stop me from |
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|flinching every single time I opened the cupboard. I |
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|reacted as though something was falling out on me, until |
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|I finally moved the danged things. When I get really |
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|tired, I can KNOW where the burst of yellow came from, |
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|but my body is still going to react as though it’s from |
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|oncoming headlights. |
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|u/ObeseBumblebee - 1 month |
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|Does the visuals you get actually come from the source |
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|of the sound? Like if there is some music playing off |
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|to your side do you see the color in your peripheral |
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|vision? Also does the visual effect happen with your |
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|eyes closed? Are you like, super good at marco polo? |
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|u/NotSureNotRobot - 1 month |
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|I’ve always thought numbers had shapes that “fit” together. |
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|Like 7 cradles the 3 to make ten which is a rectangle. I’m |
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|terrible at advanced math though. I’ve never had synesthesia |
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|but when I listen to music it has textures and the flow of the |
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|music has a shape, but it’s not like I can hear a song and say |
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|it’s green or blue. |
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|u/fuqdisshite - 1 month |
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|i will argue that: we are just now understanding how 'Grey |
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|Matter' processes data and that Grey Matter is a conduit for |
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|other processes AND a spot to store short term (somethings) |
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|for future use. we have a long way to go and that is proven |
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|by the idea that there is no human capable machine available |
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|to test on yet. brains are an unsolved puzzle. |
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|u/techieqube - 1 month |
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|Yeah I see colors when I hear instruments...I literally have |
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|to turn down the music when I'm parking at night so I can see |
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|better. |
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|u/lblack_dogl - 1 month |
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|For me, the sequence 7+6 is a moped but the answer 13 is curly |
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|yellow hair. These images pop in my head when I think of these |
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|concepts. No idea why. |
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|u/tyrannosaurusjes - 1 month |
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|Same as how I strongly feel that 5, 6 and 9 are a lovely cool |
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|ocean blue. |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|I think this may be a lot more common than most people |
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|realize. A lot of us have these little neural quirks. They |
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|don’t hurt us in any way, they’re just a little odd. |
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|u/atlanticisms - 1 month |
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|Words have textures and/or "tastes" to me. I wish I had the |
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|kind of synesthesia that made me see colors instead |
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|u/Nerdler1 - 1 month |
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|So you get an item associated to numbers? What's 7 and what's |
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|6? |
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|u/lblack_dogl - 1 month |
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|That's the thing. Not every number has its own item. And |
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|it's not really an item. It's like... concepts that pop in |
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|my head. The curly hair one in particular, it's not curly |
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|hair on a head, it's just a plane of curly hair, it's |
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|disgusting really. |
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|u/Nerdler1 - 1 month |
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| huh. Very interesting. Wonder how many connections you |
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|have |
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|u/lblack_dogl - 1 month |
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|It's stronger when trying to memorize things for me. |
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|These ideas came from memorizing times tables and minute |
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|math sheets in second grade. When I try to memorize a |
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|long sequence of guitar notes for a song, I find myself |
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|doing the same thing as an adult. It seems natural at |
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|first, I'm writing a story that connects this thing to |
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|that thing, but then I analyze the story and realize |
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|it's utter nonsense. Spitballing an example here, I'll |
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|play chords in order and I'll be saying to myself in my |
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|head: mailbox to the green apple, man is angry, blah |
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|blah blah. I literally sit up after playing for a bit |
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|and think to myself, what the fuck is happening in my |
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|head. It's bizarre. |
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|u/ConeyDog - 1 month |
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|What do you mean? Like the hue in their vision changes based off |
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|different foods they eat? Bad example: blueberries might change |
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|their vision to a more blue hue? |
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|u/Nerdler1 - 1 month |
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|So I saw a discovery channel show talking about it. And some |
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|people would say when they hear something, the would see a |
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|colour emitting from the item producing the sound. Kinda like |
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|a smoke rising from the strings. I don't experience it so it's |
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|hard for me to say. |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|That’s not the type of synesthesia I have, so I can’t answer |
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|for sure. From what others have said, it’s more like there’s a |
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|fixed association between the taste of things and a color. For |
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|instance, if you asked them to describe the flavor of |
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|blueberries, they might say that blueberries are sweet and |
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|pink. Similarly flavors might be different shades of pink, but |
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|still fall into the same classification. For me, audio- |
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|visual synesthesia apparently changes how I experience music. |
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|Music has color and pattern the same way it has pitch, tone, |
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|and rhythm. You don’t usually think about those things when |
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|you’re listening to it, you just experience them. I don’t |
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|really understand *not* hearing those things. |
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|u/SSGASSHAT - 1 month |
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|I do that, but usually I have to be drunk or high to do so |
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|u/AnonymousCruelty - 1 month |
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|I already hear two voices. I think one is mine. |
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|u/chicken-nanban - 1 month |
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|I still catch myself being confused about how my husband can “see” |
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|pictures, like full on movies, when he’s reading something. I can |
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|only “see” very small photograph like images when I’m reading, and I |
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|have to try very hard to focus in and give that “image” any details. |
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|And it’s ephemeral - a minor distraction and poof, it’s gone and I |
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|have to start over. I more “feel” stories as I read them, but my |
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|husband says he sees them like a movie just playing. Which one of us |
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|is strange, I’ll never know, but it’s funny the things you take for |
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|granted because that’s just how we’ve always been and can’t |
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|conceptualize things being any other way! It’s like I’ve always |
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|wondered if we all see colors the same way. I know we all see the |
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|same wave length and assign a color to it, but it is still being |
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|perceived and processed in the brain, so does your “blue” really |
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|match mine? I wonder if these girls could answer this, or if it’s |
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|the same thing, they’ve always seen things through their own and |
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|each other’s eyes that that’s just normal and they’ve adapted to it… |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|I’ve always wondered that about colors, too! One of my friends |
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|has no “mental vision” at all. Doesn’t see pictures when she |
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|reads, remember what colors things are, doesn’t “see” things in |
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|her memory, or in her dreams. Yet she’s a superb photographer, and |
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|does all her own editing. She also creates colorful art in other |
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|media. Meanwhile, I’m over here processing my whole life in |
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|images. |
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|u/Lucavii - 1 month |
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|Hearing someone else's thoughts is trippy enough, but I'm trying to |
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|wrap my head around how you see through someone else's eyes. |
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|Like...? |
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|u/belovetoday - 1 month |
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|I'm still trying to figure out how they know whose thought is whose. |
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|So are they two distinct voices? And audio/visual synesthesia is |
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|so rad. Have a friend with it, who sees the colors in words when she |
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|reads. And describes the colors as their "feelings" /tone when they |
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|were writing. Must be a colorful world! |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Your friend’s way of seeing the world sounds really cool! I |
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|wonder if it’s anything like remembering someone else speaking… |
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|the “voice” is in your mind, but you still know it’s “other” and |
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|not you. But for them it’s happening in real time. Idk, though. |
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|That’s really just a guess. It’s such an interesting concept. |
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|u/lackofabettername123 - 1 month |
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|Excuse my ignorance, you hear colors and patterns? |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Yep I have audio-visual synesthesia. There are lots of other |
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|types of synesthesia out there. I’ve answered several other |
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|questions here, if you want more details. |
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|u/greiton - 1 month |
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|my friend was in high school before he realized had some yellow-blue |
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|colorblindness. I was with him when we figured it out. we were |
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|programming an electric paintball marker and the led flashed just |
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|the right tone of yellow and light blue that he was like "no, those |
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|are the same color." everything in grade school had been for |
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|detecting red-green color blindness, not the other types. |
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|u/Grrerrb - 1 month |
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|Mine has been color blindness. People sure want me to prove I can’t |
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|tell some object is some color. |
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|u/killerduck49 - 1 month |
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|Yea i learned i have adhd 6 months ago and 1 month after starting on |
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|the meds i found out that silence is real like i could for the first |
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|time in my 20 years of life hear the wind in the grass and nature |
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|without anny noise |
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|u/lostpanduh - 1 month |
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|Scariest sentence I've read in a while, "can hear each other's |
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|thoughts." That means at some point they had to come to the |
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|conclusion that's the other persons thoughts and not imaginary. |
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|Also imagine actually being truly empathic and feeling others |
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|feelings in real time even though it's not from your side. |
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|u/itsmaxx - 1 month |
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|Dunno if this is insensitive or not but it from the definition I |
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|read it seems kinda cool if its not overwhelming. Seems almost like |
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|a superpower. |
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|u/dingo_khan - 1 month |
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|I can always feel all my clothing all the time. I was like 22 before |
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|I found out this was not the case for everyone. A girlfriend said |
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|something that brought it up and she stared at me like "no sweetie, |
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|that is not normal." having talked to a lot of people since then, I |
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|guess not. The idea of it not being the case is so weird to me but I |
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|guess it is normal. |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Oh, that’s interesting! Does it drive you nuts? Most people |
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|adjust to constant, non-painful stimuli and tune it out. Are |
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|there other things you can’t tune out? |
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|u/dingo_khan - 1 month |
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|Nah. It does make me a bit specific about fabrics. Nothing |
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|exotic needed but I avoid things that feel distracting (like |
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|corduroy pants or wool sweaters). The only thing I can think |
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|of: I have trouble filtering out conversations. Like I can pay |
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|attention to you talking to me in a room full of people but I |
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|can't not also listen in. I have to make sure not to seem rude |
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|by having cross conversations or channel surfing conversations |
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|at parties. People who know me are not offended because they |
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|know I am listening. People who don't are sometimes |
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|understandably frustrated. |
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|u/Ilien - 1 month |
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|I know that is always the case (in Portuguese we have a saying that |
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|goes something like "peppers in the ass of other people is |
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|refreshing" lol) and it will probably both a blessing and a curse, |
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|but being able to hear colours and patterns sounds rad. Was |
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|unfamiliar with the term, thanks for sharing! |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|I love idioms and random sayings in other languages (knowing that |
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|English has some very strange sayings itself!) What does it mean |
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|when you say that peppers in the ass of someone else is |
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|refreshing? |
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|u/Ilien - 1 month |
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|Pepper in the ass create a very burning sensation apparently. |
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|It's basically a way of saying that other people problems are a |
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|breeze to us, because we're not involved and don't have to deal |
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|with it. I mentioned it here because I am unable to relate and |
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|see how your audio-visual synesthesia can be a negative and can |
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|only imagine the good side of it (it sounds fun!) |
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|u/FairlyGoodGuy - 1 month |
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|> I was 5 before I had any idea my audio-visual synesthesia was |
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|unusual. I was in my late-30s when I discovered that aphantasia is |
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|a thing. Learning that the whole "mind's eye" concept is literal for |
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|most people was astonishing. It's funny how far we can go in life |
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|believing that our own perception of the world is the same as |
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|everyone else's. |
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|u/Kdejemujjet - 1 month |
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|That's so cool! All I get is randomly generated images of places or |
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|things I have never seen in my life. They are so vivid and feel like |
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|memories for second and then they're completely gone. Once it wasn't |
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|image it was sound. Loudest thing I ever heard I really thought we |
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|are under bombing attack and the sound is siren warning. |
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|u/integerdivision - 1 month |
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|I was *25* before I realized I was a grapheme-color synaesthete. |
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|u/Mr_McFeelie - 1 month |
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|Makes you wonder how they even differentiate between themselves and |
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|their sister if the brains are connected like this… must be quite |
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|strange |
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|u/SSGASSHAT - 1 month |
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|What the hell is audio-visual synthesia? Wait, nevermind, I read |
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|the answers below. Neat shit, sounds like a really mild but constant |
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|acid trip, which I would enjoy personally. |
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|u/gemini1568 - 1 month |
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|They remind me of Ginnifer Goodwin. |
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|u/1-22-333-4444 - 1 month |
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|> I just assumed everyone else heard colors and patterns Does the |
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|color 'white' have a sound? And does the color 'black' have a sound? |
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|Is there any way to describe the sounds (e.g., a buzzing sound, a |
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|humming sound)? I'm so curious how colors and patterns can be |
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|"heard". |
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|u/rand0fand0 - 1 month |
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|If you’re not too tired of repeating yourself. Do the colors or |
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|shapes come from the location of the sound? Can you see where a |
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|sound is coming from? Also on these colors or shapes impede your |
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|vision for physical objects? |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|You asked so nicely! 1. No, pretty much centered in my visual |
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|field, whether my eyes are open or closed. 2. I can hear where a |
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|sound is coming from, usually, like I think most people do. 3. |
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|Very occasionally, when I’m overtired or very stressed, I can’t |
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|to avoid the “oncoming headlights” I’d just heard. I knew it was a |
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|sound, but my body started to get out of the way. It was very |
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|similar to something I did to myself a couple of weeks ago. I hung |
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|bags of spices from hooks inside a cupboard door - and then |
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|stop my reaction. I took them down, because it was clear I wasn’t |
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|on locating a smell - like smoke, or something else that might be |
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|eyes to scent things better. Hope that answered what you wanted |
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|u/rand0fand0 - 1 month |
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|So interesting. thanks for taking the time |
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|u/OutrageousRelief3405 - 1 month |
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|They look like Katie Holmes |
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|u/HellyOHaint - 1 month |
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|Yeah it genuinely looks good and so do they |
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|u/Aydiomio - 1 month |
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|Their bangs look super nice! |
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|u/thx1138- - 1 month |
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|I just want to know how they got their shirts on? |
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|u/ravenous_cadaver - 1 month |
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|Bloody hell... Hearing my own thoughts is bad enough half the time. |
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|u/souse03 - 1 month |
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|It probably gets really awkward when the intrusive thoughts hit. They |
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|have definitely thought about hurting the other one at some point. |
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|u/phalewail - 1 month |
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|>There's a knife on the countertop. Grab it before she does. |
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|u/user_tab_indexes - 1 month |
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|Before even getting to that point though, they'd already see and |
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|understand where the other is coming from. Could conflict really |
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|arise between "them"/her? |
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|u/literallylateral - 1 month |
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|I would think so. People can still piss you off even if you |
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|fully understand where they’re coming from, and they’ve |
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|presumably been dealing with this since before they developed |
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|u/AvinPagara - 1 month |
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|the documentary says they do fight and their fights get "very |
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|u/tema3210 - 1 month |
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|Maaan |
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|u/concequence - 1 month |
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|Would they though, they couldn't hide anything. So if they are upset |
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|they have to work it out and can understand each others reasoning. |
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|Decision making is much quicker and they become attuned to each |
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|others planning, and thought process, their goals, their desires. |
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|They'd be more apt to finish each others sentences. |
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|u/Inquisivert - 1 month |
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|It depends on what their sense of "self" is. They may be so |
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|intrinsically linked that their entire sense of self involves both |
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|of them, even if they're capable of having different thoughts. They |
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|know nothing else, so why would they necessarily want to hurt, or |
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|even be annoyed by, the other? It's all so fucking fascinating and |
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|borderline incomprehensible. |
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|u/Taradal - 1 month |
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|Actually this amazes me. It means that we could actually be able to |
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|decode thoughts and maybe even infuse them into our brain. Like a |
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|phone call without speaking |
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|u/ravenous_cadaver - 1 month |
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|One of my first thoughts was the complex works of fiction they could |
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|potentially imagine together... Like writing characters and dialogue |
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|can be tricky etc... that kinda thing, just the potential for |
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|creative synergy could be huge. Also if anyone was gna develop |
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|genuine ESP or telekinesis, surely it would be the two girls sharing |
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|the Uber brain lol. |
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|u/BrandfordAndSon - 1 month |
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|Imagine one is suicidal and the other loves life. Not for long they |
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|u/literallylateral - 1 month |
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|I was actually wondering about mental illness. I have ADHD and a |
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|neurotypical person hearing my thoughts all day would fuuuuucking |
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|haaaaate it. Obviously I hope this doesn’t happen but it would be |
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|morbidly fascinating to find out what would happen if only one of |
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|them were to develop depression or have a psychotic break. |
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|u/A57RUM - 1 month |
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|The neck pain must be from another world. |
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|u/J_0_E_L - 1 month |
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|Also walking around (If they don't use a wheelchair?) and moving in |
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|general must be super annoying with their bodies at that angle due to |
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|the head connection. |
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|u/vanilleq - 1 month |
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|Exact same thought |
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|u/quietmyman - 1 month |
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|Like the twins, am I right? |
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|u/zerbey - 1 month |
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|[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krista\_and\_Tatiana\_Hogan](https://en.w |
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|ikipedia.org/wiki/Krista_and_Tatiana_Hogan) |
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|u/OG_Felwinter - 1 month |
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|In the opening paragraph there, it says they share a brain, but later |
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|on it talks about their brains plurally. Does anyone know which part |
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|is correct? Is it just that they share certain parts of their brains? |
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|u/tgjer - 1 month |
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|They're connected at the thalamus, which among other things relays |
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|motor and sensory signals to the cerebral cortex. |
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|u/Coreshine - 1 month |
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|I know some of these words |
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|u/Scipio33 - 1 month |
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|"Hmmm thalamus, good! Or bad. I'm not sure." |
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|u/SkellyboneZ - 1 month |
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|All you need to know is that the Thalamus are some ass hole |
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|elves who claim sole responsibility for closing the Oblivion |
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|Gates in the Dominion. |
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|u/KaseTheAce - 1 month |
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|Lol. "Thalmor" for anyone wondering. |
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|u/NewNameAgainUhg - 1 month |
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|At least it should be easier for them to move if they share motor |
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|u/Deep90 - 1 month |
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|I bet it does. Pretty sure I saw a clip where one of the girls |
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|could tell whenever the other was being touched on the knee or |
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|u/DefiantFrankCostanza - 1 month |
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|Thalamus does a fuck ton more than that |
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|u/tiredtanzon - 1 month |
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|It says in the wiki article that they share one half of the brain |
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|and each have half a brain. So effectively they have 1.5 brains. |
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|u/zerbey - 1 month |
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|I'm not a medical expert, but it sounds like the latter to me. |
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|u/TealCatto - 1 month |
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|Another comment said they share the center half, and the outer |
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|halves are individual. |
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|u/SoccerGamerGuy7 - 1 month |
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|Part of their brain. They have two individual brains; but their |
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|brains are connected in certain parts. I watched a documentary some |
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|time ago when they were younger. It was fascinating as one girl |
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|would cover her eyes and see what object their mother was holding |
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|through her sister's eyes. Similar with touch; one girl still |
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|blindfolded would feel where someone touched her sister; "her knee!, |
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|her elbow!" There also was a few small spats about food. As one |
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|girl loved ketchup and the other didnt. But she claimed she could |
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|taste the ketchup her sister was eating. Interestingly they appear |
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|to also share thoughts. Both of them would sit quietly; and both |
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|together without words would go and get up to mischief with the same |
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|goal in mind. (or minds) They really are among some of the most |
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|fascinating people on Earth. |
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|u/Ecstatic_Lab9010 - 1 month |
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|The prefrontal cortex, looks like. |
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|u/SlinkyBiscuit - 1 month |
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|https://youtu.be/HVrSLHugwtg?si=59CPlmR5HWOoOURR Actually research |
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|seems to indicate that there are separate consciousness in each |
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|hemisphere of any individual's brain that communicate and |
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|collaborate via the corpus collosum. Their experience may not be as |
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|foreign to us all as it seems |
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|u/bangbangracer - 1 month |
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|The brains are separate, but they are conjoined around the thalamus |
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|and sensory areas. It's kind of hard to explain. They have their |
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|own mind and brain, but there are also connected by a few key |
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|systems. Oddly enough they can't actually see through the other's |
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|eyes, but they can \*see\* through each others eyes if that makes |
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|sense. |
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|u/MrMESSl - 1 month |
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|Incredibly interesting. |
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|u/Moosplauze - 1 month |
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|Agreed, although I would loved to get even more information than the |
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|wikipedia article offers. Unsure if the information is just not |
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|available because of the mentioned exclusive contracts or because |
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|they protect their privacy well (which is perfectly fine) or if the |
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|article is just not up to date. |
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|u/Lushkush69 - 1 month |
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|There's a few documentaries about them just google their names and |
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|documentary. |
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|u/Meiico - 1 month |
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|"They are joined at the head and share a skull and a **brain**." |
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|Genuinely curious. How does this being two individual people? Does the |
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|brain split into two personalities, or is it one personality with two |
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|bodies like someone with extra limbs they can control? It's so cool yet |
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|so strange! |
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|u/DiscoBanane - 1 month |
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|They share half a brain but have another half each. |
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|u/Meiico - 1 month |
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|That makes more sense. Thank you! |
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|u/Firm-Telephone2570 - 1 month |
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|You can also actually live with just one half of your brain |
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|u/atthem77 - 1 month |
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|Insert political joke here |
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|u/Its0nlyRocketScience - 1 month |
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|"Some people don't need either half, they can usually be found |
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|u/redditsellout-420 - 1 month |
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|One who has the most ever, the most ever people. |
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|u/FlyingEagle57 - 1 month |
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|Can confirm. My hometown had a little kid during mt school years |
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|who had HORRIBLE chronic seizures, and they did an experimental |
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|procedure where they removed the right half of his brain (cannot |
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|remember if they took it all out or just a part) and he's now a |
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|fully functional and healthy adult EDIT: I can confirm, they |
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|took out the whole right hemisphere of his brain, at least |
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|that's what the posts his mother make allude to. Doesn't seem my |
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|business to pry open an over ten year old memory. |
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|u/SuperHazem - 1 month |
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|They only remove a few problematic nerve pathways. Removing a |
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|full brain half would make you 50% paralyzed and very |
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|u/rorudaisu - 1 month |
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|https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/procedures/17092-hemis |
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|either **removes** or disconnects half of the brain from the |
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|u/SuperHazem - 1 month |
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|disconnecting the hemispheres by surgically removing the |
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|corpus collosum. Even a hemispherectomy, which will almost |
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|u/mutantbabysnort - 1 month |
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|u/Thneed1 - 1 month |
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|There are cases where doctors have separated the two halves of |
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|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-brain |
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|u/markovianprocess - 1 month |
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|This is outrageously fascinating from a neuroscience perspective. |
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|u/TellYouEverything - 1 month |
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|For real, I can’t believe that it’s even possible. Lends more |
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|credence to the idea that as we start to biohack our bodies with |
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|technology and gene editing, the brain will continue to find ways |
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|to keep up with new demands. I really wonder what the peak |
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|possibilities of human consciousness could be. |
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|u/fecal_position - 1 month |
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|u/Lyraxiana - 1 month |
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|Especially the part where they can see through each other's eyes! |
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|u/markovianprocess - 1 month |
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|Yeah, I haven't looked into the sharing senses and thoughts |
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|claim, but it's wild. I would have expected this kind of unusual |
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|human morphology to create neurological disorder rather than |
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|unique abilities - it's amazing how flexible the human brain is. |
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|u/Blazefresh - 1 month |
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|Totally, like do they have two consciousnesses or one? And if |
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|it’s two, where does each one reside? |
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|u/wggn - 1 month |
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|Separate consciousnesses but some shared memory fragments, from |
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|what i can find in google. |
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|u/Laymanao - 1 month |
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|Sadly, their mortality is also conjoined. |
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|u/ApizzaApizza - 1 month |
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|That’s much better than their mortality not being conjoined. |
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|Imagine watching half of your body die and having to live on. It’d |
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|fuck you up immensely. |
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|Nightmare fuel, thanks! |
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|u/CTeam19 - 1 month |
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|[Here is one example of deer having the issue some times when |
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|antlers](https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/s/36GPq5jNdL) |
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|granted they weren't connected brain or body wise but it is |
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|still interestingly related to the concept. |
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|u/cutestslothevr - 1 month |
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|The sad part is, with modern medicine Chang and Eng would have |
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|u/PolyDipsoManiac - 1 month |
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|Oh yeah, medicine was still pretty primitive. Shit, it still |
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|deal with cutting major vessels. We'd just figured out |
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|Should rather focus on the life. |
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|u/edgun8819 - 1 month |
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|Holy shit. I wonder what that is like. |
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|u/ConeyDog - 1 month |
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|That would be 1.5 brains. |
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|u/arebee20 - 1 month |
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|Interesting that one of them would have a separate left half of |
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|their brain and the other a separate right half. I wonder if one of |
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|them excels at “left brain” activities and the other “Right brain” |
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|their mind than other people out of necessity. Like if one wanted to |
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|hide a thought from the other could they somehow force the brain |
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|waves to go through a part of their brain that is in their own half? |
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|Surely not but I wonder. |
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|u/Delirious5 - 1 month |
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|Brain function can move lobes. I have a niece who got Rasmussen |
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|Syndrome and had to have surgery to detach the right side of her |
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|creative and loves writing, and she ran cross country in high |
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|u/PolyDipsoManiac - 1 month |
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|Are you saying she had split-brain surgery (severing of the |
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|corpus callosum) or a hemispherectomy? If you do it to a young |
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|enough child they develop normally, it’s usually done for |
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|extreme cases of epilepsy with a focal point in one hemisphere |
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|only. Split brain surgery is fascinating, specialized testing |
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|has determined that both sides can learn distinct things, and |
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|occasionally the patients will find that, for example, one hand |
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|attempts to undress them as they try to pull on their pants with |
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|u/Delirious5 - 1 month |
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|u/PiagetsPosse - 1 month |
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|the right brain / left brain differentiation is pretty much a |
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|farce. Except for few specific situations (eg, language residing |
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|primarily on the left in most people), the lobes are mostly |
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|duplicates. It’s one of those myths like “you only use 10% of your |
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|brain” that somehow got picked up by pop culture and won’t go |
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|away. |
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|u/perseidot - 1 month |
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|Optical processing occurs in both lobes, but each lobe |
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|specifically processes the input from one eye. |
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|u/Coconut_island - 1 month |
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|That's not correct, each lobe processes half (left half vs |
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|right half) of what you see but considers both eyes. If you |
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|didn't split it this way, you wouldn't be able make use of |
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|stereo vision for depth perception. |
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|u/mealzer - 1 month |
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|No, stereos are for sound silly |
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|u/chicken-nanban - 1 month |
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|If you’re ever in for a very interesting wikipedia rabbit |
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|hole, look at how our optical nerves develop and twist - the |
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|data coming in from our left eye is flipped upside down and |
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|rotated and is processed on the right side, and vice versa. |
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|There’s also really neat animations that help to understand |
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|the prevailing theory on why and how it happens. Makes me wish |
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|I was smarter to have studied things like this, but glad I |
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|live in a time when I can learn something randomly cool with a |
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|calculator at my fingertips. |
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|u/siliconsardine - 1 month |
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|If I remember correctly from my cognitive science minor, it’s |
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|not that each lobe processes 1 eye, but rather that each lobe |
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|processes input from one side of the field of vision |
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|u/haha_squirrel - 1 month |
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|The whole left brain/ right brain thing was mostly made up. It’s |
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|not real science lol |
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|u/IVIisery - 1 month |
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|So a third? |
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|u/perilousrob - 1 month |
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|it's really interesting. their 'thalamic bridge' seems to let them |
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|share each others thoughts, feelings, and physical sensations. |
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|perhaps technological pseudo-telepathy will be possible at some point |
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|after all? I'm know this is the optimist in me speaking but i have |
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|real hope that if something like that does come, it'll help people |
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|understand each other in ways that help reduce hatred and fear of the |
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|other. fingers crossed anyway ;) |
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|u/Mimikyutwo - 1 month |
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|I’ve actually had this conversation with my wife recently. |
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|Telepathy (and to a lesser extent telekinesis) are probably possible |
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|as soon as we figure out a reliable way to translate electrical |
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|signals in the brain into JSON payloads. I want to watch |
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|Mythbusters? I simply think about it and then a man-machine- |
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|interface simply sends an API request to my tv and boom, |
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|Mythbusters. I want to tell my wife I’m going to be late to |
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|dinner? I think about sending that message and that same mmi sends a |
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|message to my wife’s phone (or other device external to her own mmi |
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|because I doubt it’s a good idea to have a device connected to your |
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|brain to receive data). |
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|u/WhimsicalWyvern - 1 month |
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|I mean, it's already a thing. It's just not very practical yet, |
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|and only really worth implementing for quadriplegics or those with |
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|Locked In Syndrome. |
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|u/nikiyaki - 1 month |
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|Yeah considering it requires *brain surgery* I can't imagine |
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|people getting it for non-critical reasons |
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|u/WhimsicalWyvern - 1 month |
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|What? You're telling me you don't want to undergo brain |
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|surgery so you can use your phone hands free? |
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|u/14domino - 1 month |
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|The brain should definitely use a typed protocol like Protobuf. |
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|u/bundlebundle - 1 month |
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|I agree, except JSON probably isn't a good choice for what would |
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|likely be encoded signals. |
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|u/Notamansplainer - 1 month |
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|Two words for you: Thought Police. |
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|u/Grothorious - 1 month |
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|If you're fascinated by this idea, you should check out a tv series |
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|called Sense8 |
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|u/perilousrob - 1 month |
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|I loved Sense8 ;) |
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|u/DespairTraveler - 1 month |
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|| physical sensations I know its kind of insensitive, but |
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|interesting if they decide trying to have sex simultaneous in the |
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|u/esoteric_enigma - 1 month |
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|I want to know how intelligent they are. My mind just can't fathom 2 |
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|people having as many complex thoughts as I have all the time while |
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|hearing each other's thoughts. |
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|u/zakatov - 1 month |
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|I’m sure they’re going to be very intelligent if they just put their |
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|minds together. |
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|u/yogurtshwartz - 1 month |
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|OUT! |
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|u/throwaway_eclipse1 - 1 month |
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|Wouldn't they be more intelligent? There's more stimulus for the |
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|u/Visible_Extension891 - 1 month |
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|Are you thinking what I'm thinking? |
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|u/fiddlenutz - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but where are we going to find a moose and a block |
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|of cheese this time of night. |
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|u/DownvoteEvangelist - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but we are already naked. |
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|u/Captain_Quinn - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but how’s your head supposed to fit inside a |
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|condom? |
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|u/SmellOfParanoia - 1 month |
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|Yes! Pinky and the Brain, brain, brain! |
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|u/apageofthedarkhold - 1 month |
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|...a duck and some lederhosen at this time of night? |
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|u/RetroJake - 1 month |
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|u/bikesboozeandbacon - 1 month |
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|It says “this content is not available” for me :( |
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|u/dck42069dck - 1 month |
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|u/TechnicolorViper - 1 month |
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|More importantly, where are we going to find pencils that taste like |
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|bacon? |
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|u/slamdanceswithwolves - 1 month |
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|We should put our heads together. |
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|u/Sil369 - 1 month |
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|Two heads are better than one. |
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|u/slamdanceswithwolves - 1 month |
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|I bet her sister is always on her mind. |
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|Try to see it through their eyes. |
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|u/RashRenegade - 1 month |
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|"What does that have to do with anything?" "Nothing. I've been |
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|wanting to say it all day, I got sick of waiting for an |
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|Are you pondering what I’m pondering? |
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|u/HueyLueyDewey - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but me and Pippy Longstocking? I mean, what would |
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|u/the_motherflippin - 1 month |
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|No, cos you're thinking I'm thinking what you're thinking |
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|u/zombiejim - 1 month |
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|This is exactly the comment I'd expect from the Hiphopopotamus |
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|u/OakleysnTie - 1 month |
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|My rhymes are bottomless… |
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|u/7LeagueBoots - 1 month |
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|Poppin’ offa the top of my esophagus like phosphorus |
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|u/the_motherflippin - 1 month |
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|♥️ conchords |
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|u/molder5 - 1 month |
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|Or maybe a rhymenosaurus |
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|u/Darthpratt - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but do they make lederhosen in our size? |
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|u/Crater_Animator - 1 month |
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|How do they get their shirts on? |
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|u/Raoul_Duke9 - 1 month |
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|Specially made or button ups I would imagine |
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|u/MycommentsRpointless - 1 month |
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|Looks like elastic collars in the photo so I'm guessing it stretches |
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|enough to put it on feet first. Or they could also use button-ups as |
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|u/JodieFostersFist - 1 month |
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|Ancient psychic tandem war elephant? |
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|u/Wumaduce - 1 month |
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|They're Pinky and the Brains |
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|u/MingusVonHavamalt - 1 month |
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|I think so, but this time YOU wear the tutu. |
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|u/Aegillade - 1 month |
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|Yes, but I don't think we see eye to eye on it |
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|u/sixft7in - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but where we gonna find rubber pants at this time of |
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|u/Semi-Disposable - 1 month |
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|I think so Brain, but burlap chafes me so! |
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|u/TheDarkestKorner - 1 month |
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|IDK WHAT are you thinking |
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|u/isitasexyfox - 1 month |
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|I think I am, B2! |
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|u/Worldly_Ad_6483 - 1 month |
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|I’m thinking these two are a real life X Men character(s) |
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|u/Gryyx - 1 month |
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|u/All1012 - 1 month |
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|That they look like Suri cruise, ya. |
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|u/Preesi - 1 month |
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|They look like Suri Cruise |
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|That was my first thought! |
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|u/chrismunk - 1 month |
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|I thought the left looked like Suri and right more like Katie Holmes! |
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|u/visque - 1 month |
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|Have they tested showing 1 twin a picture then asking the other what was |
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|shown to prove they share vision or experiences? |
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|u/I_Be_Dog - 1 month |
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|I didn't see any word about them seeing through each other's eyes but |
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|they mention how they can create their own experience of a moment, but |
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|since they store in the same place. They can seemingly, "remember" the |
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|u/jmurphy42 - 1 month |
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|The Wikipedia article did say that they’ve been proven to see |
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|through each other’s eyes. Unfortunately it didn’t say how that was |
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|tested. |
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|u/anally_ExpressUrself - 1 month |
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|If you already established that you share memory, I'm not sure how |
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|you would distinguish between seeing through the others eyes and |
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|remembering what they just saw? |
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|u/WatermelonWarlock - 1 month |
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|Showing Girl A an image and asking what's in it might be either |
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|memory or sight, but I imagine if you did some kind of reaction- |
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|based test like having Girl A play a video game that Girl B is |
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|the only one watching that might be more conclusive. |
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|How do you establish the minimum time it takes to form a |
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|memory, though? I was thinking you'd need to do something |
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|like ask the eye owner to concentrate on the peripheral vision |
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|on the right, and the other to concentrate on the peripheral |
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|vision on the left, and demonstrate they can notice something |
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|u/WatermelonWarlock - 1 month |
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|Well idk about you, but regardless of how fast I memorize |
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|u/TheOtterSpotter - 1 month |
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|At that point it is just semantics. If you can process the |
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|information in real time that certainly counts as seeing. |
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|u/Czyzx - 1 month |
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|If it was memory then both girls would be able to “see” out of |
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|both eyes, but they can’t. Krista girl can only see out of one |
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|of Tatiana’s eye. https://web.archive.org/web/20200303205006/ |
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|https://www.cbc.ca/cbcdocspov/episodes/inseparable |
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|u/chain83 - 1 month |
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|u/BeautifulTypos - 1 month |
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|I mean, even if we change the language to being able to perceive |
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|through her sister's eyes, functionally what really is the |
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|difference? Even if she doesn't have direct access to her eyes, |
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|the photons that are sensed by the eyes needs to be thoroughly |
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|processed by the brain. When you are looking at something, you |
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|are literally picturing the interpretation in your head. If the |
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|twin has access to the portion of the brain that can process |
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|that information, then she can essentially see. |
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|u/I_Be_Dog - 1 month |
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|Throw a jab and see if the other flinches. I'm just kidding, of |
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|course. Lame that they would perform a study on such a rare |
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|occurance and publish the results without the methodology. |
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|u/jmurphy42 - 1 month |
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|I mean, it’s the Wikipedia article that didn’t describe the |
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|methodology, I bet it’s included in one of the cited sources. |
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|Yeah, the article also mentioned that when they were infants if |
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|one of them was tickled the other would laugh, and if you put a |
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|pacifier in one of their mouths the other would stop crying. |
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|u/TheyCallMeMrMaybe - 1 month |
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|I mean that's easy. Have subject 1 close their eyes, show subject |
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|2 a picture, and have subject 1 say what's being shown. |
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|u/jmurphy42 - 1 month |
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|I agree that it’s an easy experiment to design, he just asked me |
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|for the details and I let him know they weren’t in the article. |
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|u/zakatov - 1 month |
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|And how would you prove that subject 2 is accessing the visual |
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|cortex of subject 1 vs subject 2 accessing short-term memory of |
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|subject 1 vs some other shared neural pathway? Brains aren’t |
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|easy. |
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|u/Emperor_wipe - 1 month |
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|That’s the all or nothing test I’m sure it’s more complicated |
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|than that |
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|u/PangolinLow6657 - 1 month |
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|The point raised in this thread is that with your given method, |
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|it's hard to determine whether it's the eyesight that's being |
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|shared, or a stored memory. How long does the brain take to |
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|store its short-term memories? |
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|u/lilfoxtato - 1 month |
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|If you put a curtain between the two and asked "how many fingers |
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|am I holding up?". |
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|u/Deep90 - 1 month |
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|[Here is the |
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|video](https://youtu.be/N1Mac4FeKXg?si=qIF7NZNQ3vZycy7U&t=406) |
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|u/Sikkenogetmoeg - 1 month |
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|Here is The source referenced, an old [New York |
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|Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/magazine/could- |
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|conjoined-twins-share-a-mind.html) piece: “As fantastic as it |
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|sounds, there is little doubt in Cochrane’s mind that the girls |
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|share some sensory impressions. When they were 2 years old, he |
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|performed a study in which Krista’s eyes were covered and |
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|electrodes were glued to her scalp. While a strobe light flashed |
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|in Tatiana’s eyes, Krista was emitting a strong electric response |
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|from the occipital lobe, which is where images are assembled. The |
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|test also worked when the girls switched roles. The results were |
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|not published, and some neuroscientists believe that this kind of |
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|test, which measures changes in brain activity beneath the skull, |
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|is imprecise in determining what region of the brain is at play; |
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|but most would agree that any response in the other twin’s brain |
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|suggests, at a minimum, connectivity.“ |
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|u/DeltaCoder - 1 month |
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|A ship A cup A speeder |
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|u/I_Be_Dog - 1 month |
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|u/DeltaCoder - 1 month |
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|[https://youtu.be/kptVj6ptdCQ?t=27](https://youtu.be/kptVj6ptdCQ |
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|u/iamintheforest - 1 month |
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|That's beyond comprehension for me. I can understand the words just |
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|fine, and everytime I try to play it out in my head it's just like |
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|"nope...that's still just me". I know a memory is mine |
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|exclusively because I have it. What it would mean to have someone |
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|else's memory and know it was theirs is just BOOOOOOOM. |
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|u/dirtycimments - 1 month |
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|Jesus Christ what a mindfuck! |
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|u/MikeTheNight94 - 1 month |
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|I wanna know if they share dreams. We know nothing compared to this |
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|u/itsalongwalkhome - 1 month |
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|There's video of them doing exactly that as kids |
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|u/Kemakill - 1 month |
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|u/-Neverender- - 1 month |
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|They knew very early on about the brain sharing functions. It took |
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|nothing more than a crying twin that stopped crying when a pacifier |
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|was placed in the other twin's mouth. |
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|u/mortalcoil1 - 1 month |
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|I was about to ask if their was any skull between their brains and just |
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|decided to look it up myself. I was not disappointed in my findings. |
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|Here is the x-ray. https://x.com/boeslab/status/1553866860315172866 |
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|but here is the truly fascinating thing. "this is an amazing story – |
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|Krista and Tatiana Hogan are conjoined twin sisters with distinct |
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|personalities and *mostly* **separate brains that are linked by a |
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|‘thalamic bridge.’ They can use it as a portal to access the other’s |
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|sensations and feelings."** |
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|u/ZeusHamm3r - 1 month |
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|That is just wonderfully wild to think about. Imagine being able to |
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|close your eyes and just see, hear, taste, touch, think whatever |
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|someone else is. I wonder how open they are to studies being done on |
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|u/Aggravating_Ad_7132 - 1 month |
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|Woah, taste such an interesting one for some reason. Imagine one |
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|twin eating a certain food while the other is blindfolded, and the |
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|blindfolded guessing the food. But… they could actually taste it. |
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|Wild |
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|u/ps2k - 1 month |
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|I wonder how often they are thinking, "Dang, my neck hurts too". |
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|u/pungen - 1 month |
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|u/AnAncientMonk - 1 month |
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|i feel like at some point. it just stops hurting permenantly. |
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|u/Wheels9690 - 1 month |
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|This seems like a true living hell.. EDIT: Ima roll back a little bit |
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|here after reading some comments and such. From MY point of view, this |
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|looks like a living hell, but its all they know and they are apparently |
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|happy girls so to them, it may not be the living hell myself, and others |
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|may imagine. I do not think they "should not be allowed to live" While |
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|their medical circumstances are ...difficult to say the least, they are |
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|already here and very much do deserve to be treated like human beings. |
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|u/Objective-Outcome811 - 1 month |
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|You'd truly be amazed at what the human mind can persevere through and |
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|u/ConfederacyOfDunces_ - 1 month |
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|They view the world very differently (literally). It really is |
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|amazing what the human body can do and how our minds can adapt to |
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|almost any situation over time. It’s absolutely wild. |
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|u/lite_hjelpsom - 1 month |
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|Absolutely, but the longing we all feel to be our own authentic |
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|person doesn't end when you're conjoined. You aren't guaranteed a |
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|friendship with the person you're conjoined with, you aren't |
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|guaranteed mental health, you are not guaranteed anything extra from |
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|what you share with a non-conjoined twin. We only hear the neat |
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|stories, and we only tell them as neat stories. Adaption is a |
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|strategy, not a comfort. Always excusing things with "oh human |
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|adaptation is soooo amazing" is pretty dangerous because it allows |
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|us to discredit people's emotions and plights. Humans can adapt to |
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|living under extreme conditions, but that doesn't mean it's good. |
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|That this is normal to them doesn't make it good. They are human |
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|beingd slike every other human being, and they get to feel a |
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|plethora of emotions, and they get to be fucking upset about having |
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|to be conjoined twins (something ALL conjoined twins feel, often). |
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|These women are heavily fetishised as inspiration-porn, as seen in |
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|this thread. Sometimes that's the only way for people in these |
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|situations to make money for survival, to just sell that image. |
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|Sometimes it hinders them in feeling their real feelings because |
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|they always have to be so damned inspirational for non-disabled |
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|people. The best anyone can do for any disabled people is to make |
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|sure they can participate in society on the same level as everyone |
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|else, and then treat them like everyone else while they do that. |
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|u/morbihann - 1 month |
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|Only if you werent born into it. For them it probably is just the way |
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|it is and certainly creates quite unique development dynamic. |
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|u/Own_Instance_357 - 1 month |
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|I was just thinking, what would it be like to never be lonely a |
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|moment in your life. But then I thought how much it would suck to |
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|get into an argument and be unable to leave. And how difficult and |
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|weird it might be in any number of other situations I don't think I |
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|want to think too hard about. I'm kind of impressed by that other |
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|set of conjoined twins who share a classroom teaching job. |
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|u/TrustComprehensive96 - 1 month |
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|Abby and Brittany Hensel? Yeah, they’re really interesting and one |
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|of them got married a few years ago. I watched their docuseries |
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|and the specifics of their shared biology and the logistics like |
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|having to each have their own driving test and license so took it |
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|twice for each twin was interesting. They also seemed really |
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|grounded and had a great social system where those around them |
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|took it in stride and treated them as individuals which is good |
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|u/SantaCruznonsurfer - 1 month |
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|u/Future_Crow - 1 month |
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|They share a torso, so no need for a special seat. |
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|u/Magnaflorius - 1 month |
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|What was interesting about them was that they didn't consciously |
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|share thoughts but they could type jointly without needing to |
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|verbally communicate. That ability to understand each other's |
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|thoughts was there somehow but they couldn't just read them. |
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|u/b1tchl4s4gn469 - 1 month |
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|I don't think you will have an argument when you can hear the |
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|other persons thoughts. Better question might be how individual |
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|they feel or wether they feel more like one entity. Since having |
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|having no option to leave and hearing the other persons thought. |
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|u/aesthetic_Worm - 1 month |
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|Exactly this. |
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|u/BBQcupcakes - 1 month |
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|Still hell. Gotta watch people around you do athletics, date with |
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|and be regarded by others as normal. That's not to say a high |
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|quality of life isn't possible or likely; I could cite many of the |
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|same things about deaf and blind people and of course many of them |
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|get on fine. Laura Gilpin has a short poem that expresses how |
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|unique circumstances of experience that make you less fit for this |
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|world can be the same ones that enable a greater perception of |
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|beauty: >Tomorrow when the farm boys find this >freak of nature, |
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|they will wrap his body >in newspaper and carry him to the museum. > |
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|>But tonight he is alive and in the north >field with his mother. It |
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|is a perfect >summer evening: the moon rising over >the orchard, the |
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|wind in the grass. And >as he stares into the sky, there are >twice |
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|u/fuckoutfits - 1 month |
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|Since, they never had any other kind of experiences, they can't really |
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|compare it/relate to what people like you and I go through in a day to |
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|day life. I don't think it would be like hell. I might be wrong in |
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|my assumption though. I do have a doubt though: if one of them falls |
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|asleep, can the other person see their respective other's dreams.? |
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|u/ResoluteClover - 1 month |
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|If it's the only thing you've ever known it's probably not as bad |
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|(aside from all the limitations of the physical differences from a |
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|u/angrywords - 1 month |
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|You should look up the conjoined twins Abby and Brittany. They have |
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|lived a happy life together and are even married. |
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|u/feetofire - 1 month |
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|To us. To them, we are the ones living a very limited existence tbh. |
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|u/silentohm - 1 month |
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|They know no other way of existing though so it's just normal to them. |
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|u/OkArm9295 - 1 month |
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|If people keep pitying and judging them needlessly. As long as we |
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|treat them with respect and dignity, and that they are physiologically |
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|not suffering, I feel like they can live a happy life. |
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|u/brunch_lust_club - 1 month |
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|Their photo gives me a neck ache. |
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|u/PanzerSoul - 1 month |
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|Imagine the neck pain |
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|u/ibuildonions - 1 month |
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|I wonder how that birth went? Edit: nm. |
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|u/I_Be_Dog - 1 month |
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|C-section? All I saw was 20% survival chances, then I saw this >The |
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|twins' nervous systems are highly interconnected. Their doctors |
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|reported that when one of them is tickled, the other jumps, and that |
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|putting a pacifier in the mouth of one could cause the other to stop |
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|crying And was blown away. |
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|u/drrj - 1 month |
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|Wow. Genetic abnormalities can create some truly unique people. |
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|It’s hard to even fathom what their experiences must be like. |
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|u/RainbowCrane - 1 month |
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|Conjoined twins aren’t really a genetic abnormality, are they? |
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|They’re identical twins where the embryo began separating into two |
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|embryos but stopped partway through. AFAIK doctors don’t know |
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|exactly what causes that to happen. |
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|u/Not_a_N_Korean_Spy - 1 month |
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|Did something remind you of this story OP? https://www.reddit.com/r/mi |
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|ldlyinteresting/comments/1erojc4/two_conjoined_watermelons_i_bought_at_t |
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|he_farmers/ Sorry. |
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|u/MrMESSl - 1 month |
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|Lol. busted. |
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|u/Scarlet-Fire_77 - 1 month |
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|Ngl, I thought of those melons when I saw this post. |
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|u/MahoganyShip - 1 month |
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|“Mom! Tatiana’s thinking about me!” “Krista! Stop thinking about your |
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|sister!” |
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|u/Flesh_Dyed_Pubes - 1 month |
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|Once they get older and their hormones make them start getting fed up |
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|with each other I imagine that’d be very difficult. You can’t hide your |
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|anger with the other person. |
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|u/TSIDAFOE - 1 month |
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|But if you can hear the others thoughts, you understand why they're |
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|upset at you. You can literally look into their memories and know why |
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|they feel the way they do. Supposedly as babies, if you gave one a |
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|pacifier, the other would calm down, so maybe if one is wants the |
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|other to calm down, they calm down themselves and it just relays over? |
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|u/Dolmenoeffect - 1 month |
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|They are 17 now. |
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|u/iliketolivesafely - 1 month |
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|Fascinating case, but there is nothing in the [Wikipedia |
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|article](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krista_and_Tatiana_Hogan) that |
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|says they can hear each others thoughts. The closest thing is in this |
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|[mamamia article](https://www.mamamia.com.au/krista-and-tatiana-hogan/) |
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|that claims this in the headline but nothing really supports this in the |
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|text. There is a quote from their mother in that article:“They can sit |
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|there and not say anything to eachother, and all of a sudden one of them |
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|will pop up and grab something to eat for the other one. Like, there’s |
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|no words being spoken between the two of them at all, and they know |
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|exactly what the other one wants”. This is interesting, but is not the |
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|same as “hearing each others thoughts”. |
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|u/1K_Games - 1 month |
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|How does one of them pop up to grab something to eat for the other? I |
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|ask because you questioned what the OP said. I'm not questioning you, |
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|but what the mother says, or how she says it is weird. |
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|u/petak86 - 1 month |
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|>They can sit there and not say anything to eachother, and all of a |
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|sudden one of them will pop up and grab something to eat for the other |
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|one. Like, there’s no words being spoken between the two of them at |
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|all, and they know exactly what the other one wants I've seen that |
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|happens with normal twins... or even siblings. It comes with spending |
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|almost all time together. |
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|u/MiscMel70 - 1 month |
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|Yep. Happens all the time with my 28 yo boy/girl twins. They live |
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|together right now. Their friends think it’s weird they live |
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|together, including my daughter’s best friend who is of a boy/girl |
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|set. To them it’s perfect because they know each other so well |
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|u/blackdynomitesnewbag - 1 month |
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|Is that really distinct from that though? It may as well be hearing |
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|each others thoughts. Also, not all people think the same way. Some |
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|people think without words and just in images. To, "hear one's |
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|thoughts," is more of a way of expressing that you know what someone |
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|is thinking. |
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|u/Fredasa - 1 month |
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|I watched a video about them, quite a while ago. I distinctly |
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|remember a moment where one of them gets irritated yells at the other |
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|to stop thinking about such-and-such. |
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|u/cyberentomology - 1 month |
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|“Hearing” thoughts? That’s wild. |
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|u/instantsilver - 1 month |
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|They look like Suri Cruise |
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|u/SeraphOfTheStag - 1 month |
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|The neck pain |
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|u/fatsopiggy - 1 month |
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|Yeah I don't know how they'd deal with not able to stretch their |
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|u/ThePedMeister - 1 month |
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|"Close your eyes, I'm trying to sleep!" |
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|u/SapphireSire - 1 month |
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|Do they argue over what to wear? |
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|u/-old-m8- - 1 month |
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|As long as it’s not a hat I think they’re cool |
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|u/swishkabobbin - 1 month |
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|Shirts have to come from the bottom thought. Probably wear a lot of |
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|rompers |
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|u/senectus - 1 month |
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|I imagine neurologists would find this fascinating |
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|u/F_Synchro - 1 month |
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|If this is true this means the brains are actually interface-able |
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|u/Shaved_Wookie - 1 month |
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|This raises some questions about the nature of self... One body, but |
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|not, One brain, but not, One experience of the world, but not, |
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|Seemingly two consciousnesses. |
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|u/MojoDr619 - 1 month |
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|It also implies we should be able to plug into others consciousnesses- |
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|maybe eventually we will all jack into our favorite youtube |
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|influencers existence for a bit and hop around |
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|u/prometheanbane - 1 month |
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|Presumably they think independently. Their experiences are their own |
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|if one consciousness interprets it. It might then be shared with the |
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|other, but it's still unique. It's probably more like extremely |
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|heightened and unconscious communication. Our brains share thoughts |
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|and experiences too. We're just limited by speech and language. In a |
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|way, cults have shown that the way we think and feel can belong to |
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|another. |
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|u/boddle88 - 1 month |
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|Dual monitor |
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|u/limevince - 1 month |
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|Hmmm if they only have one brain, is it proper to consider them as two |
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|separate people who can read each others thoughts; or as one person who |
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|can speak through two different mouths and sees through two sets of |
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|u/Main_Course3101 - 1 month |
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|Poor kids, not even the privacy of your own thoughts. |
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|u/ericbana19 - 1 month |
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|Bless them and the people who are born different from the majority. |
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|Gives me a reason not to whine about my pathetic life and be grateful |
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|for what I have. |
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|u/CanuckInTheMills - 1 month |
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|Seriously though, yes! |
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|u/the_millenial_falcon - 1 month |
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|Oh wow, I thought these kind of twins never survived. |
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|u/fryamtheeggguy - 1 month |
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|What a unique way to experience the world. |
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|u/ItsCowman - 1 month |
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|Sounds like a headache |
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|u/Beneficial-Estate807 - 1 month |
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|wow i always wondered how they live with all that thought 💭 |
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|u/dapala1 - 1 month |
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|Pretty sure they're used to it. |
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|u/noronto - 1 month |
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|This is how you start an origin story for a comic book. |
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|u/JadowArcadia - 1 month |
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|This is one of those things that is so conceptually difficult to grasp |
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|but is absolutely fascinating. What does hearing someone else's thoughts |
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|feel like? Is it like hearing someone speak? Does it feel like your own |
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|thoughts or blatantly "other"? Can they essentially have a conversation |
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|in their combined head the same way we can talk to ourselves in our |
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|heads to a degree? Same thing with seeing through eachothers eyes. Is |
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|it like changing cameras where you can see through your own eyes and |
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|then switch to the other set? Or is it like just having 4 eyes that you |
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|can see through all at the same time with a massively improved field of |
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|vision? So many questions |
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|u/Expert_Drama9374 - 1 month |
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|Suri Cruises twins! |
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|u/Capable_Wait09 - 1 month |
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|For a second I thought Katie Holmes was leaning against a mirror |
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|u/kda255 - 1 month |
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|Genuinely amazing, nature if crazy. I wish the best for these girls. |
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|u/flotusspunkmeyer - 1 month |
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|I wonder what it would be like for just one of them to get stoned. And |
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|the next day the other sister could and see what that experience is like |
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|looking through their eyes. Fascinating |
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|u/Jessievp - 1 month |
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|My parents are deeply religious. Whenever there's a hard conversation |
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|about life after death (and the ever impending apocalypse) I bring up |
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|topics like this. How can you explain this phenomenon when God created |
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|us in his image? Say one of the twins believes in god and the other one |
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|doesn't, do they get separated in the afterlife? They never seem to come |
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|up with a good answer... |
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|u/Bumpahead - 1 month |
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|Am I the only one who thinks they look like Suri Cruise and Katie |
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|Holmes?? |
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|u/jreigner47 - 1 month |
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|Wow - "each other's thoughts" implies that there's two separate thought |
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|"entities" within the one brain. Super interesting. |
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|u/merlinrising - 1 month |
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|The Human brain is crazy |
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|u/lazy_k - 1 month |
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|What an absolute nightmare. |
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|u/jagenigma - 1 month |
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|This is an honest to God question, how do they put on shirts that arent |
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|button downs? |
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|u/mybadalternate - 1 month |
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|Carefully. |
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|u/EbolaPrep - 1 month |
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|Imagine someone else hearing your dirty thoughts and desires….😳 |
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|u/NCHouse - 1 month |
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|That's gotta suck |
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|u/Wide_Pop_6794 - 1 month |
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|Telepathy is real confirmed? |
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|u/BYoNexus - 1 month |
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|Sure. You just have to literally merge with someone to speak |
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|u/TealCatto - 1 month |
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|It's not tele in their case. |
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|u/ParsleyMostly - 1 month |
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|I wonder if one or both can control the other or at least change the |
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|other’s mind or thought process. Sounds like they retrieve memories from |
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|the same place (please forgive my simplistic phrasing and naivety), but |
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|our emotions and perceptions heavily shade a memory. Of course however |
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|it works is completely normal to them. |
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|u/STFUnicorn_ - 1 month |
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|My neck hurts looking at them. |
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|u/FortunateInsanity - 1 month |
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|I can’t imagine what their life must be like, but their potential |
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|contribution to behavioral psychology must be unprecedented. |
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|u/DocTrey - 1 month |
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|Can one sleep and the other be awake? |
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|u/Additional_Mango_900 - 1 month |
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|If so, does the awake one experience the sleeping one’s dreams? |
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|u/idigholes - 1 month |
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|That's fascinating |
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|u/welligermund - 1 month |
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|But can they hide their thoughts from each other? |
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|u/aprilrose69 - 1 month |
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|they look exactly like suri cruise |
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|u/urbanforestlife - 1 month |
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|How early on does a person know they’re having conjoined twins during |
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|pregnancy? |
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|u/TheWeenieBandit - 1 month |
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|Imagine the gossip. Imagine how much shit they talk in there. The inside |
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|jokes must go crazy |
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|u/AbySs_Dante - 1 month |
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|Is it scientifically true? |
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|u/Nole19 - 1 month |
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|How do they take exams without "cheating" |
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|u/YouRegard - 1 month |
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|If you are me, who the hell am I? |
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|u/bluemerant - 1 month |
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|they/them |
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|u/p14082003 - 1 month |
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|LAN party! |
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|u/MaintenanceScary6429 - 1 month |
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|Besides everything else,that looks like a horribly uncomfortable angle |
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|to be connected at. |
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|u/budadad - 1 month |
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|“Intelligent design” |
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|u/Jgasparino44 - 1 month |
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|The thought of someone elses skull pulling on my head to move is |
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|disturbing. |
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|u/Chang1701 - 1 month |
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|Yeah, but they have never known any different. |
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|u/zefiax - 1 month |
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|I can't imagine looking at the world through four eyes. Also I wonder |
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|how hearing the other's thoughts are like. Is it actually like how I |
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|hear my own thoughts or is it like someone talking, or is it like sudden |
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|videos playing in your mind? |
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|u/Mal-De-Terre - 1 month |
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|It's no different than thinking about the leap from one eye to two. If |
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|you were a one eyed minion, it would be equally unfathomable. |
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|u/zefiax - 1 month |
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|I am assuming they have a much wider field of view. |
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|u/PeopleofYouTube - 1 month |
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|Are you seeing what I’m seeing? |
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|u/TheSadOn3 - 1 month |
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|Prolly big fans of button up shirts |
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|u/bassslappin - 1 month |
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|Aye. That must hurt the neck 😟 |
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|u/d_ngltron - 1 month |
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|Why do they look like that one camera effect we all tried when we were |
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|like 9. |
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|u/Mu69 - 1 month |
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|Wow wtf I wonder what that feels like |
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|u/RIARANGERFACE - 1 month |
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|u/RepostSleuthBot |
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|u/Modz_B_Trippin - 1 month |
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|Watch them turn out to be precogs. |
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|u/PlaguedByUnderwear - 1 month |
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|But can they actually see through the other's eyes or is, say, Tatiana |
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|just telepathically telling Krista what Tatiana sees? |
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|u/myst3r10us_str4ng3r - 1 month |
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|I'd like to know more about this. If one gets mad, or sad, how does it |
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|affect the other? Do they always see through the others' eyes, or is it |
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|selective? So many questions really. |
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|u/Scifig23 - 1 month |
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|Embrace Human evolution |
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|u/digitalgirlie - 1 month |
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|Hear each other's thoughts? That would be the worst kind of hell. |
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|u/Tough_Topic_1596 - 1 month |
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|So like do they have separate brains? Or do they have like some kind of |
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|super brain? |
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|u/aresef - 1 month |
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|They share structure in their brain tissue. |
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|u/HellyOHaint - 1 month |
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|Well, that makes complete sense as they at least mostly share a brain. |
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|u/AlbatrossReddit - 1 month |
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|Do they talk to each other to communicate? Or do they communicate |
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|telepathically |
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|u/bmaurene - 1 month |
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|Bless them! |
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|u/JigPuppyRush - 1 month |
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|Darn that must be interesting, de they also feel the others feelings? |
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|u/ElephantElmer - 1 month |
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|Looks like Katie Holmes |
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|u/TactlessTortoise - 1 month |
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|Now that I think about it, they kind of support the idea that our minds |
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|can handle being a part of a hive mind. They're their own person, but |
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|also criss cross information and sensory input. Two minds, two bodies, |
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|one sensory bundle. |
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|u/LordThunderDumper - 1 month |
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|Wow they have a 3 part brain each their own half and then a shared half. |
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|It's like every sify book where humans plug into machines and can "hear" |
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|the AI "brain". They are not really 2 individuals, yet are not two |
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|single individuals either. |
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|u/Ironbloodedgundam23 - 1 month |
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|Wait they can hear each other thoughts?! That’s incredible!It’s like |
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|something you would read in a science fiction book but it’s real life. |
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|u/mycatiscomplicated - 1 month |
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|Wasn’t this posted a few ago with the exact same title? |
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|u/Dingaling015 - 1 month |
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|This will be the 15,568,254th time we have posted this pic on reddit, |
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|and we have become exceedingly efficient at it. |
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|u/FluffyPony34 - 1 month |
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|I believe it. |
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|u/Spirit50Lake - 1 month |
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|[https://thewalrus.ca/how-conjoined-twins-are-making-scientists- |
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|question-the-concept-of-self/](https://thewalrus.ca/how-conjoined-twins- |
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|are-making-scientists-question-the-concept-of-self/) |
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|u/SanctimoniousStoat - 1 month |
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|Imagine your conjoined twin keeps fantasizing about killing you and you |
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|hear everything. |
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|u/macthom - 1 month |
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|are they legally One or Two citizens? |
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|u/plasticupman - 1 month |
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|I don’t care what anybody says, this is not a way to live your life. |
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|Nature fucked these two completely. |
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|u/saruin - 1 month |
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|I can't fathom how to process what you see out of 4 eyes at once (at two |
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|different things). I guess it's kind of like when you're looking at |
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|something with both eyes, but through one it's obstructed. I've never |
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|learned how to "split" eyesight in opposite directions either. I just |
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|imagine it's somewhat disorienting constantly having to "process" two |
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|different sceneries constantly. |
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|u/Peydey - 1 month |
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|What is the anatomy of their brain(s)? I’m curious to the |
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|shape/structure. Comments discuss them having half a shared brain and |
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|their own independent halves; however, nobody explains the structure of |
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|it. It’s not as simple as sticking brain on the side. Our brains have a |
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|very specific structure. |
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|u/hydroawesome - 1 month |
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|Seeing through eyes is one thing, I think hearing each other's thoughts |
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|is even more wild. The idea of hearing thoughts that aren't yours is |
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|bizarre. |
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|u/Lost_Dingo_9102 - 1 month |
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|The twins' nervous systems are highly interconnected. Their doctors |
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|reported that when one of them is tickled, the other jumps, and that |
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|putting a pacifier in the mouth of one could cause the other to stop |
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|crying.(when they were still babies obv) |
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|u/LazerWolfe53 - 1 month |
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|This is essentially proof that a Brain to Machine Interface can work. |
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|u/Selkea - 1 month |
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|Cursed Rinnegan |
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|u/bloutchbleue - 1 month |
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|How do they know its not their thought ? How do they dissociate the |
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|thoughts? |
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|u/lexxeffect - 1 month |
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|they look like Suri Cruise |
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|u/Wukkax - 1 month |
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|Have a childhood and everything but I also hope they using them for |
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|improvements in neuro-science |
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|u/MaizeEnough8460 - 1 month |
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|I couldn’t share my legos with my siblings growing up, much less a |
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|brain. Best of luck to them |
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|u/Main_Jury_6983 - 1 month |
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|Wow. There has been an enormous, un-crossable chasm between every |
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|human mind in history...except between these two. Literally |
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|hearing the thoughts of another person...to see through their eyes... A |
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|one-in-ten-billion human experience. |
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|u/bej2751 - 1 month |
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|Proof that god doesn’t exist and if he does exist, he’s a sick freak and |
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|so are the parents. These poor girls. |
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|u/Nerftuco - 1 month |
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|this is what this sub was meant for, not liberal political bs |
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|u/MoistPaperNapkin - 1 month |
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|Can they feel each other’s feelings and know what the other person is |
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|thinking? What about influencing each other’s motives? At that point, |
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|can they still be treated as two separate entities? This is such an |
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|interesting situation. |
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