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Ukraine hits 4 Russian airbases overnight in largest such attack, source
says
(URL) https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-hit-4-russian-airbases/ (https://kyivindependent.com)
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|u/BrownBoiler - 1 month
|
|Nice. Now do it again!
|u/delme95 - 1 month
|
|I’d love to donate to a gofundme that supports the ukraininan military
|directly. I want my contribution to have an immediate effect on the
|ability of ukrainian military.
|u/stevey_frac - 1 month
|
|https://u24.gov.ua/ You can put in your credit card details, and
|donate directly to the military, or a few other projects. I just
|threw $10 at them.  That's not a ton, but it's what I can afford
|right now to help them kick the bastard Russians out if their
|country.
|u/Strong-Piccolo-5546 - 1 month
|
|A youtuber named Jake Broe (former Airforce Officer) ran a
|fundraiser and raised $1.3 million. The money was used to buy
|trucks for the ukrainian military. The tracks had additional
|suspension and some other things to make them last longer in the
|offroad and rough driving. They need this to supplement
|Strykers/Bradleys.
|u/WhyYouKickMyDog - 1 month
|
|I have been watching Jake Broe, and got my dad watching him as
|well. I don't know what this guy's connection to Ukraine is, but
|it is such a pleasure to see Americans working so hard for the
|people of Ukraine.
|u/Strong-Piccolo-5546 - 1 month
|
|check out Ryan McBeth. he does more with intelligence, but
|they know each other. He was a bradley commander in the army
|and served in a iraq. There is also Preston STewart. He was an
|infantry officer. he is more of a realist on ukraines chances.
|so its a bit depressing.
|u/MattTheRadarTechh - 1 month
|
|I don’t believe “realists” anymore. Literally everyone was
|saying Ukraine would last a month. Here we are, years later
|and Ukraine is doing fine. Let’s keep supporting Ukraine
|however we can, and hopefully they can end this soon.
|u/HamptonBarge - 1 month
|
|Realists would have predicted America would win the
|Vietnam war.
|u/Sapceghost1 - 1 month
|
|He doesn't have a connection. He used to make trading videos
|and then found a new niche that was profitable.
|u/Gr8lakesCoaster - 1 month
|
|Well he's raising millions for the war effort so bless him.
|u/Faxon - 1 month
|
|Jake's connection is that he was a Minuteman 3 ICBM operator
|when he was in the air force. He was a part of the nuclear
|triad and he knows what's at stake if Ukraine loses.
|u/mustang__1 - 1 month
|
|What a bro move...
|u/llahlahkje - 1 month
|
|Every dollar you donate puts a bullet in the barrel of your best
|guy's gun!
|u/Edwardteech - 1 month
|
|At bulk government pricing its probably 3 bullets per dollar. 
|u/Moktejo - 1 month
|
|I understood that reference!
|u/boomboy8511 - 1 month
|
|Hey I understood that reference!
|u/Soundwave_13 - 1 month
|
|Same I throw what I can at them. Every little bit helps
|u/pitleif - 1 month
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|Thanks for the link. Just donated $50 myself.
|u/limborgihni - 1 month
|
|Sent in my donation as well. I’m unemployed and not doing well..
|but I must support my native country.
|u/Hairy_Reindeer - 1 month
|
|Take care of yourself the best way you can. Be kind to
|yourself. And good luck in the job market! Helping yourself
|now will let you help others more later.
|u/JimTheSaint - 1 month
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|that will be felt in Russia soon!
|u/pitleif - 1 month
|
|We can only hope!
|u/Great-Macaron-8060 - 29 days
|
|Forget it, Moran.
|u/tsraq - 1 month
|
|Damn the report of donations makes a bit disappointing reading (I
|was looking at defense one). Some million USD (rough estimated
|avegage) per day at start, and gradually going down to some 150k
|nowadays...
|u/Helmdacil - 1 month
|
|US citizens can take some solace in knowing the US government
|(we the people) have donated over 100 billion dollars to ukraine
|so far and counting. This is not the only bank account of the
|ukranian military.
|u/UDLRRLSS - 1 month
|
|Are they donations? My understanding is that the U.S. is
|paying Americans to build weapons, keeping those weapons in
|our stockpile, and sending Ukraine weapons we already had
|worth $x as stated.
|u/DarkwingDuckHunt - 1 month
|
|it takes time to make new weapons time Ukraine doesn't have
|but we have this giant stockpile we're never going ot use
|before it's expiration date so win win win
|u/Caboose2701 - 1 month
|
|And disposal costs money. Now we can dispose of them into
|their intended target. Soviet equipment.
|u/PassiveMenis88M - 1 month
|
|And we get to see just how effective they are in real
|combat situations.
|u/syringistic - 1 month
|
|Yeah there is a ton of very useful data points. Like
|the fact that even older-gen Bradleys are more than
|capable of taking out T-90s.
|u/Hairy_Reindeer - 1 month
|
|The cold financial realism and drawing benefits from
|war just feels so depressing. Of course it's good to
|make the best of a bad situation, but still. The
|military-industrial complex was scary even before
|this.
|u/HombreSinNombre93 - 1 month
|
|Russian these days. but mostly produced under Soviet
|rule.
|u/Davegvg - 1 month
|
|All the old stuff is gone and were paying for new at
|this point.
|u/GregJamesDahlen - 1 month
|
|it's kind of weird to think that Russia is U.S. neighbor
|if I think of Alaska
|u/Caboose2701 - 1 month
|
|They’re still mad they sold it to us.
|u/lightofthehalfmoon - 1 month
|
|The US also provides direct cash infusions to keep the
|Ukrainian government running as well as humanitarian aid.
|u/DonniesAdvocate - 1 month
|
|Most of the economic aid is from the EU, just as most of
|the military aid I'd directly or indirectly from the US.
|u/KingZarkon - 1 month
|
|Much of the stuff going to Ukraine also falls under [lend-le
|ase](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_Democracy_Defen
|se_Lend-Lease_Act_of_2022) where they will return or pay us
|back for the equipment down the road. We did the same thing
|in WWII and IIRC it was only fairly recently that all of
|that was paid off. Edit: looks like the law was passed but
|never actually used. Thanks u/SalazartheGreater for pointing
|that out.
|u/Sanhen - 1 month
|
|Russia actually made its final lend-lease payment in 2006:
|https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KpFBHs8XWUM
|u/secretlyjudging - 1 month
|
|Would have been hilarious if they were still making
|payments. Thanks for your monthly checks, going straight
|into Ukraine in the form of bullets and bombs.
|u/MyHamburgerLovesMe - 1 month
|
|Robot/Automated AI guided lasers for the home. That
|will go well. As something totally unreleated, I for
|one welcome our future robot overlords
|u/-SaC - 1 month
|
|Also 2006 for the UK (29th Dec)
|u/spaetzelspiff - 1 month
|
|Which I view as a good thing. We help Ukraine when
|they're in need, and we're repaid when they end the war.
|That makes a much stronger argument for American voters
|asking why we're giving money away to some faraway country
|instead of spending it at home (and yes, I realize
|spending the money literally results in it being spent on
|the military and contractors here as well).
|u/TheArmoredKitten - 1 month
|
|People also forget that national debt *can* be a good
|thing. If the US give Ukraine a massive loan, we're
|going to have a vested interest in making sure they can
|pay back that money. That means deepening and
|maintaining inter-government partnerships to protect
|that investment, and encouraging private investors to
|build up the economy and get Ukraine's revenue streams
|back online.
|u/SalazartheGreater - 1 month
|
|Are you sure? I don't think that's correct. We authorized
|lend-lease as a symbolic historical measure, but Biden
|preferred to send aid directly, and lend-lease
|authorization expired without ever being used I believe. 
|u/KingZarkon - 1 month
|
|You may be right, my bad. Looks like it was passed but
|never used.
|u/chuckangel - 1 month
|
|Similarly, much of the materiel we're sending is stuff we
|were on the cusp of retiring and scrapping anyway
|(reaching EOL/expiration) so it's kind of a win-win in
|that regards. We get to write it off as part of the aid
|package. we don't have to pay to have it properly disposed
|of, we gather a shit ton of data on combat effectiveness
|of said systems (like, we learned a bunch from deploying
|switchblades, especially when comparing to the cheap DJI
|style drones), etc etc. It's really kind of brilliant and
|we're depleting our stockpiles and paying American Workers
|for the refurbishment and replenishment activities.
|u/KingZarkon - 1 month
|
|For sure. We were just going to throw most of it out
|anyways. Even better is the fact that most of the stuff
|was made specifically to fight America's arch-nemesis,
|Russia (well, technically the USSR), and it's doing
|exactly that without even having to even put American
|lives on the line. Also, if you're a country looking to
|buy some weapons, are you going to buy the old
|Russian/Soviet stuff or the American stuff that kicked
|the former's ass? It's the best possible sales demo for
|American arms manufacturers.
|u/shicken684 - 1 month
|
|It's both. Most of the money the US gives is for Ukraine to
|purchase weapons from US stockpiles. Ukraine has also used
|some of this money to create purchase orders from American
|and European arms manufacturers. There has also been tens
|of billions given to Ukraine to help fund their government.
|Government workers and programs need to be funded, and the
|army needs to be able to pay its troops in the field.
|u/SeedlessPomegranate - 1 month
|
|And? The weapons cost money, and the Ukrainians need
|weapons desperately, even more than money.
|u/toxicsleft - 1 month
|
|I think we are sending things that we no longer need. Think
|if it as hand me down weapons of war. It’s important to
|note that unlike Russia we maintain the weapons of war we
|stockpile so it’s like when your older brother wore a shirt
|once but kept it neatly folded and safe.
|u/CriticalDog - 1 month
|
|For a lot of it, it's hardware that we are required to
|dispose of after a set amount of time. The hardware is
|perfectly good, would most likely work perfectly, but our
|military is supposed to keep "fresh" stock on hand. Some
|things, like aircraft, or the thousands of tanks we have,
|are mothballed. Basically the vehicle equivalent of putting
|your collectable car in long term storage. If needed, we
|can drag it to a base and get it back to fully functional
|very quickly. But a lot of what Ukraine has received in
|ammunition, some vehicles and drones, of course the weapons
|systems like HIMARS, and things of that nature. Those that
|are opposed to the US sending funding and equipment to
|Ukraine rail about the "billions and billions of dollars"
|going to Ukraine, when in actuality, we are probably saving
|money not having to provide certified disposable of
|artillery rounds, for instance, and instead just shipping
|them to Kyiv and letting them dispose of them for us... by
|firing them a Russian targets. I will never understand
|how the Warhawks in my country will crow for us to be
|launching airstrikes against Iran, but quail at the cost of
|keeping Ukraine free, degrading Russian capability and
|getting real-world reports on how our gear is doing in a
|near-peer conflict with no American blood spilled.
|u/MuaddibMcFly - 1 month
|
|Even better, disposing of those weapons when they reached
|the end of their useful/reliable life (still in the future)
|would cost us money, and still require the replacements
|we're currently buying. In other words, we're actually
|saving money by having the Ukrainians dispose of those
|munitions for us.
|u/mustang__1 - 1 month
|
|Ok?? You say this like its a bad thing. They initially got
|all the old shit... now they're getting new-old shit. We
|keep the factories running (which was apparently an issue,
|with Raytheon calling retired assembly line workers,
|managers, and engineers, to ask how the fuck they put some
|of these weapons together in the first place), and UA gets
|new boom boom sticks.
|u/Nathan-Stubblefield - 1 month
|
|Is it difficult to see that Ukraine gets weapons out of a
|warehouse now rather than from a factory months on the
|future?
|u/Libertyskin - 1 month
|
|Think of it as "$100B in store credit." That's sort of how
|it works.
|u/Joingojon2 - 1 month
|
|It's bilateral aid. Meaning, any actual cash donated has to
|be spent on goods and services from the donating nation. It
|cannot be spent with anyone else. Also such aid has
|contractual obligations that when Ukraine needs to be
|rebuilt post-war those private sector contracts/jobs go to
|US companies. (this doesn't just apply to US financial and
|humanitarian aid it's universal) The military aid is a
|completely different kettle of fish... The US military aid
|is a circular "donation" For example, the news headline of
|let's say $20 billion of military aid package to Ukraine.
|That's $20 billion of what it would cost another country to
|buy those weapons. Wholesale price if you like. Obviously,
|the actual cost for the US is much, much less because the US
|manufactures those weapons. Probably more like $5 billion
|actual cost to the US. The US then needs to replace those
|weapons which keep many thousands of US citizens in work in
|the arms manufacturing industry. Those employees and
|companies are then taxed and the money goes back into the US
|economy. So it's a circular transaction when the US
|donates military aid. The actual money stays within the US.
|The US long ago turned war into a business and it's VERY
|successful at it. War is good for the US economy as long as
|the US troops aren't involved themselves. So yeah, when you
|see "US donates $100 billion of military aid to..." keep in
|mind that's all in the US self-interest. It's not a
|charitable donation or for moral or ethical reasons. It's
|all self-serving.
|u/ReverseCarry - 1 month
|
|…seeing as how Ukraine does not have to pay for the weapons,
|yes. They are donations. There’s about $10B allocated to
|lend-lease, everything else is out of pocket.
|u/NH787 - 1 month
|
|Exactly this. At the start of the conflict there wasn't a lot
|of international support but now allies (like the US, EU,
|Canada, etc.) have stepped up and helped in a big way, far
|beyond what donations were bringing in.
|u/somkoala - 1 month
|
|Where I come from we recently donated 3M EUR despite our
|government kissing Putin’s ass. Czechs are doing similar
|donations. https://www.politico.eu/article/slovak-crowd-fund-
|ammunition-ukraine-robert-fico/
|u/Due_Turn_7594 - 1 month
|
|In fairness the U.S. population ain’t doing so hot a lot of
|paycheck to paycheck families out there, But our government has
|been doing its part to keep Ukraine rolling!
|u/Paksarra - 1 month
|
|That's because we promised to defend them when they gave up
|their nukes in the early 90s. Besides, every time we try to
|help normal people the Republicans throw a tantrum because
|their platform is that the government is ineffective and they
|have to keep that a true statement. Vote for Democrats if you
|want our government to pass laws that help normal people.
|u/Dirmb - 1 month
|
|My understanding is that the treaty we signed when they gave
|up their nukes only obligates us to come to their aid if
|they are attacked by nukes. This land invasion with rockets
|doesn't apply. We are supporting them not due to a treaty,
|but because Russia has been trying to recreate the Soviet
|Union and we cannot let their aggression stand.
|u/DGIce - 1 month
|
|I'm in favor of doing smaller amounts as a recurring charge, it
|helps them plan.
|u/Travisimus - 1 month
|
|It is okay, $10 buy lot of boolet.
|u/KingZarkon - 1 month
|
|About 20. Is that a lot?
|u/Yaarmehearty - 1 month
|
|In a pile? No If they are flying your way? Yes
|u/spinto1 - 1 month
|
|Depends. 20 in the gun? No. 20 in 3 different invaders? Yes.
|u/Loverboy_91 - 1 month
|
|“I need more Boolets” *Twerks*
|u/YSOSEXI - 1 month
|
|Thanks, just donated.
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|I just donated $10 too
|u/isawafit - 1 month
|
|It's been a while, $100 sent. Let's get behind this momentum!
|u/goldenCapitalist - 1 month
|
|Gave them $20, thanks for the link and reminder. Слава Україні!
|u/gottagohype - 1 month
|
|Thanks for the link. Donated to the defense. Slava Ukraini!
|u/dontpushpull - 1 month
|
|hey. 10bucks can buy some part of fpv drone
|u/Anyweyr - 1 month
|
|Is it legal for US citizens to donate to another country's
|military? Anybody know the details on this?
|u/stevey_frac - 1 month
|
|For Russia? Illegal. [If you are a non-profit, and donating
|specifically to the
|military?](https://apnews.com/article/technology-united-states-
|government-business-a14805645c3135bdff261dba7a2ec8cc) Illegal.
|As a person? GIV'R.
|u/restless_fidget - 1 month
|
|Nice, thanks for sharing it. I also donated 10€
|u/crawlerz2468 - 1 month
|
|I literally have zero income (not an exaggeration) but I just
|donated $10 to defense. UA! Source: RU expat.
|u/havregryns - 1 month
|
|Thanks for link, i have been looking for this where i can donate
|directly. I just donated €20 for defence
|u/itsmontoya - 1 month
|
|$10 is definitely enough for a drone microcontroller! Every bit
|helps
|u/kkpc - 1 month
|
|Hey that's around the cost of a full AR-15 magazine (which I have
|seen them using). All the better. Fuck Russia
|u/slanty_shanty - 1 month
|
|10 dollars is always better than no dollars.  What is needed with
|most charitable causes is more people feeling unashamed to send in
|10 bucks. Virtual Hand shake for you.  You did it and then you
|talked about it too.  Even though you were self conscious about
|it.  That's how you role model.  Werk it.
|u/massive_cock - 1 month
|
|Splitting my extra money this month between Ukraine, and the
|American candidate who will support Ukraine, not sell them out to
|Putin.
|u/RawrRRitchie - 1 month
|
|$10 can buy a box of bullets!
|u/g_deptula - 1 month
|
|10 bucks probably buys one of the drones they used in the attacks.
|u/Gulanga - 1 month
|
|There is a site that makes keychains out of downed Russian aircraft
|and drones, and the money goes straight to the Armed Forces of
|Ukraine (where is specified on each item I believe). Sort of a cool
|way to help out and at the same time get a bit of history in your
|pocket. https://airhubstore.com/Fuselage_Creations
|u/Jsdrosera - 1 month
|
|United24 has an option to donate to the military needs specifically.
|u/cocktails4 - 1 month
|
|They should send you a photo of a missile or rocket with your name
|on it at certain donation levels.
|u/Lotions_and_Creams - 1 month
|
|Imagine the drone, missile, whatever combat footage - right before
|impact, “Huge shoutout to our patrons…” list of names scrolls on
|screen.
|u/abstract_mouse - 1 month
|
|Adopt a Himar
|u/-SaC - 1 month
|
|"But before I explode, let me tell you about Hello Fresh..."
|u/MatthewTh0 - 1 month
|
|It already exists: https://www.signmyrocket.com
|u/ludi_literarum - 1 month
|
|There were some groups doing that, at least at one point. I'm not
|sure if any still are.
|u/Several-Zombies6547 - 1 month
|
|I support Ukraine but, honestly, I would feel horrible if a
|missile with my name on it accidentaly killed some innocent or a
|soldier who doesn't support the war but was forced to fight for
|Russia's military.
|u/mattgrum - 1 month
|
|Someone should set up a fundraising campaign in November and call it
|"Tanksgiving"...
|u/VegasKL - 1 month
|
|There's an idea .. AdoptABomb. Users donate and submit a short
|message. The message is placed on the bomb and a photo is returned
|to the user, when OpSec clears, the target footage is linked to the
|user. Really full-circle this.
|u/MatthewTh0 - 1 month
|
|It already exists: https://www.signmyrocket.com
|u/Qunlap - 1 month
|
|Well, on the website posted above (u24.gov.ua) they're doing
|drives exactly like that, depending on what's needed at the
|moment. Right now you can adopt autonomous robots (Fury).
|u/The_Milkman - 1 month
|
|There are charities that do exactly that. Ask around on r/Ukraine
|and you can find one. At the start of the war, I donated a bunch of
|rifle scopes for snipers and it felt glorious.
|u/ChangsManagement - 1 month
|
|https://www.help99.co/ This has a bunch of campaigns to provide
|material directly at the brigade level. Things like trucks, drones,
|optics, etc. Its one of the most direct forms of support outside of
|just giving the brigade money (which is possible, some brigades have
|direct donation links).
|u/GlooBoots - 1 month
|
|I'd love to come help
|u/PB_livin_VP - 1 month
|
|I just donated an SUV to them. Fuck them Russians.
|u/TXQuasar - 1 month
|
|They should setup a bidding process to win the prize of remotely
|piloting a drone onto a Russian target.
|u/peon47 - 1 month
|
|Time to bring back war bonds?
|u/Edgefactor - 1 month
|
|Can I take back my taxes that go to murdering brown kids in the
|Middle East, and specify that they go to Ukraine instead? I
|contribute to the gofundme every 2 weeks already.
|u/Barneyk - 1 month
|
|Here you go: https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-
|vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi You can
|transfer money for their army directly to the national bank of
|Ukraine.
|u/Soundwave_13 - 1 month
|
|With a rebel yell she cried MORE MORE MORE
|u/trevdak2 - 1 month
|
|AIRBASES FOR THE AIRBASE GOD
|u/DethFist - 1 month
|
|I see Khorne reference, I upvote.
|u/Travelingman9229 - 1 month
|
|And again…
|u/fizzlefist - 1 month
|
|And another one…
|u/CoastingUphill - 1 month
|
|Another one bites the dust
|u/pubefire - 1 month
|
|And then
|u/exipheas - 1 month
|
|And then?
|u/FlemPlays - 1 month
|
|“MOOOOOOORRREEEE!” -Kylo Ren Meme
|u/no_f-s_given - 1 month
|
|ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US.
|u/thethirdllama - 1 month
|
|LAUNCH EVERY 'ZIG'.
|u/no_f-s_given - 1 month
|
|YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE. MAKE YOUR TIME.
|u/Ahhnew - 1 month
|
|but also aim for putin's mansions, too.
|u/Special__Occasions - 1 month
|
|[Hit it again.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ovLWE3i6to)
|u/luffy_mib - 1 month
|
|When Russia army targets civilians, Ukraine army targets the military.
|u/raresanevoice - 1 month
|
|To think this could all have been avoided had Putin not been a miserable
|egotistical maniacal piece of shit and invaded Ukraine
|u/JanDillAttorneyAtLaw - 1 month
|
|The world was fully prepared to basically just let Russia *have*
|Crimea. Yeah, we sanctioned them for it and those kinds of actions are
|helpful diplomatically, but if Russia had managed to shrug off the
|sanctions, we'd have dusted our coats off and said we did everything
|we could, and leave it at that. Hell, if Ukraine had been the one to
|instigate the current offensive by retaking Crimea, they never would
|have gotten 1/1000th of the military support from the West that
|they're getting now. I'm sure there'd be an outpouring of *vocal*
|support and maybe even a little monetary, but if you went into that
|alternate reality and suggested we send them HIMARs, Storm Shadows,
|F16s, etc. to assist in their offensive to reclaim Crimea, people
|would dig a well and shove you in it. Russia could have just held
|onto Crimea for 50 or 60 years - long enough that some governments
|would drop the issue because they want more gas. And still, that
|wasn't enough for Putin. To take a peninsula with the barest of
|economic consequences (for his people moreso than for himself). He
|could have gotten away with it, if not for that unrestrained greed and
|misplaced confidence.
|u/myself-indeed - 1 month
|
|My conspiracy theory is that Putin is actually an idiot.
|u/JanDillAttorneyAtLaw - 1 month
|
|100%. Surrounding yourself with incompetent yes men is a mafia
|boss survival tactic, but it leaves you blind to your weaknesses
|very fast. There are probably quite a few people in his immediate
|sphere that can see his weaknesses, and they're quietly taking
|notes.
|u/brandolinium - 1 month
|
|Remember that anonymous message that appeared to come from
|someone inside the FSB and came out just as the war started?
|They were saying they were told by their bosses what to write
|about Ukrainian military capabilities—likely based on orders
|from above them coming from Putin? Essentially, nobody wanted to
|disappoint the daydreams of the guy who kills you if you
|disappoint his daydreams. Well…here we are…
|u/hoxxxxx - 1 month
|
|the whole mystique for him shattering lately, for me i view him as
|i view almost all of these mega wealthy people in the news all the
|time. they were the right person at the right place at the right
|time. they were uniquely set up to succeed in that little sliver
|of the world. but outside of it, their incompetence shows.
|u/Herr_Tilke - 1 month
|
|Best take I've read in a while
|u/goodguygoingtoheaven - 1 month
|
|I have heard that it was oil and gas found in the black sea that
|Ukraine could sell to the west thereby depriving Russia of income as
|the real reason, but also that Putin could not look weak otherwise
|other bits of Russia would want to secede. Ukraine was also stopping
|water getting to Crimea. Slava Ukaraini!
|u/KaleidoscopeMean5971 - 1 month
|
|And had he not been followed by a whole country of complacent or
|complicit people. Had he not had the support of the army, and the
|apathy of the masses.
|u/SnooDonuts4137 - 1 month
|
|Right? I mean he had Europe in his pocket with oil and gas. All he
|had to to was play nice, open up more, and the money would have flowed
|in. They totally missed the global hunt for cheaper labor, cheaper
|manufacturing, etc. If he would have played his cards right 20-30
|years ago Russia would be a power player economically and taken the
|thunder away from China and India in terms of western investment.
|u/Miroble - 1 month
|
|It's almost like governments like Iran, Russia, and China and non-
|state actors like ISIS, Hamas, and Hezbollah act in accordance with
|ideology, not economics or prosperity in mind.
|u/Galaedrid - 1 month
|
|yeah but then he wouldn't be able to claim being the greatest leader
|of Russia ever.. not that he can now, but thats his goal
|u/OrcWarChief - 1 month
|
|Tell that to all the thousands of people he’s shoved into his giant
|Meat Grinder campaign. This war is absolutely disgusting on so many
|levels. Putin should be tried for war crimes and mass murder of his
|own people.
|u/ZiggyIggy28 - 1 month
|
|You might be on to something
|u/the_collectool - 1 month
|
|I don't think that's accurate and tbh it's slightly shortsighted.
|This whole debacle has brought to the spotlight a lot of things that
|show what Russia was aiming for, they still see themselves as a world
|power in contention with the US. Aside from the Ukraine war, the
|actions of Wagner group, their attempts to influence other countries
|all show how far they are willing to go but at the same time how the
|roots are rotten. Even if Putin was not at the top, there's too many
|actors in Russia attempting to gain power. Boiling this down to a
|"tantrum from Putin" is somewhat of a reductionist take
|u/sodapopkevin - 1 month
|
|>Earlier the same day, Russia claimed it had downed over 110 Ukrainian
|drones in a massive attack "The mighty planes of the great Russian air
|force have intercepted all the drones sent by Ukraine! And they didn't
|even need to leave the ground to do it!" -Putin, probably
|u/Menithal - 1 month
|
|Even 110 drones valued 2k with 1k of explosives is cheaper than 1
|air craft lol. Killing a SU-34 with it would be liked 100x multiplier
|for investment done in damage.
|u/ffdfawtreteraffds - 1 month
|
|And we know they are lying about the 110.
|u/MerryGoWrong - 1 month
|
|And/or they are including the ones that hit their intended target.
|And/or they are just making shit up entirely because it's Russia
|and that's kind of their thing.
|u/Epsteins_List - 1 month
|
|It's almost as if the Russians lie constantly about everything.
|If a Russian told me the grass is green I'd have to look outside
|to check.
|u/are-e-el - 1 month
|
|It’s because 300 got through
|u/runetrantor - 1 month
|
|Even if not, and its more of a 'we took down 110 drones.... of the
|500 they sent' drones are cheap yeah, so even taking it at face
|value is not a win for Russia.
|u/exipheas - 1 month
|
|The asymmetric damage being caused by drones is mind blowing right
|now and I'm not sure many people understand how much of a change
|this is going to cause in warfare. This will be looked back on as a
|major revolution in warfare. Unless there are major major
|enhancements in laser based defenses I wouldn't be surprised if we
|start to see a smaller somewhat portable CIWS type system to shoot
|down drones. Imagine a mini phalanx system that shoots .22 to
|knock down those little fpv drones. Not a lot of weight or size but
|enough to damage it so it can't maintain flight. All you need to do
|is hit one of the props. It would be an interesting little topper
|for a tank as a protection system.
|u/runetrantor - 1 month
|
|Cheap, capable, and does not require a human to be on board
|risking their lives. It is truly revolutionary. Both for good
|and bad reasons, its the new way.
|u/Latter-Depth-4202 - 1 month
|
|Imagine when fpv drones get paired up with tracking software.
|I reckon it’s only a few years away, the tech is there just
|waiting to be combined. Cheap and capable and following
|orders regardless of any personal morals.
|u/Whaleever - 1 month
|
|My cheap camera drone can track people. You just draw a box
|around them and then the drone follows them
|u/runetrantor - 1 month
|
|On one hand, no human casualties aside from the targets, on
|the other, war made super cheap to engage in. Gonna be
|interesting how these developments reshape things and how
|things change.
|u/Izeinwinter - 1 month
|
|It's possible to build systems that selectively target mosquitos
|while leaving other bugs alone. "Kill everything with a ducted
|fan that fails a Friend or Foe ping" would be a much, much lower
|bar. Of course, knocking off a drone also requires a much more
|serious laser system, especially once people start mirror-
|finishing them.
|u/serfingusa - 1 month
|
|https://www.westernslopenow.com/business/press-releases/ein-
|presswire/713678110/revolutionary-bzigo-iris-the-smart-home-
|mosquito-detector-for-your-home-launched-today/ This device
|amuses me. Technology is moving so quickly.
|u/ermghoti - 1 month
|
|BRB, I'm getting one of these, and a [Bug-a-
|Salt](https://www.bugasalt.com/) and then taking out all my
|window screens.
|u/serfingusa - 1 month
|
|You've got a plan and a mission.
|u/hypnosquid - 1 month
|
|I got my parents a laser sighted Bug-a-Salt for a gift
|last year. When I called to see if it actually worked, my
|mom had just finished going full Rambo around the house.
|She said, "This thing is awesome. Flies are dropping like
|flies around here."
|u/runetrantor - 1 month
|
|For a second though the laser could kill them too and I was
|about to scream in joy, a mosquito laser turret! Still not
|there alas, but getting closer.
|u/serfingusa - 1 month
|
|Getting an auto aimed and fired laser that can kill
|mosquitoes in a consumer product isn't here yet. But
|give it time. Especially if a product for government
|use to reduce mosquito population is developed.
|u/exceptionaluser - 1 month
|
|Any laser that can kill a mosquito can blind you.
|u/serfingusa - 1 month
|
|That is why I could see them making a product that
|isn't available to the public that is used to control
|mosquito populations in an area not open to the
|public.
|u/Pusibule - 1 month
|
|and then, someone somewhere retune it to aim for eyes.
|u/runetrantor - 1 month
|
|Bet you can juryrig this one. Like, I know for a fact
|you can already buy laser pointers that are on the cusp
|of being weapons with how powerful the beam can be. And
|I cant imagine a mosquito needs THAT much energy shot at
|them to die as a balloon to pop. I wonder if the
|government (any) would develop and commercialize such,
|it opens them to blame if it turns out mosquitoes
|SOMEHOW actually have a use in the food chain, despite
|what many studies have suggested. Let a company do it
|and place the turrets everywhere.
|u/exipheas - 1 month
|
|I would start with a mm wave radar to avoid issues with rain OR
|an interesting low cost research avenue would be consumer grade
|wifi chipsets. There has already been a proof of concept to use
|it to follow moving objects/people behind walls.
|https://vulcanpost.com/814482/new-technology-uses-wifi-to-see-
|people-through-walls/
|u/mentalxkp - 1 month
|
|There are plenty of radars that can track them - we already
|have radars that track mortar shells. The issue is
|distinguishing them from birds. A mortar travels at such a
|speed that there is no confusion. Drones are a bit more
|difficult.
|u/codextreme07 - 1 month
|
|Just shoot the birds. Problem solved.
|u/Rheticule - 1 month
|
|I mean... genuinely in a war zone yeah, that's exactly
|what you would do. Anything flying within x range get's
|killed. When you're in a life and death situation, the
|lives of birds is... not high on your priority list.
|u/mentalxkp - 1 month
|
|While you shoot birds in the north, the drones pass by
|the south. While you shot the birds in the north, you
|ran out of ammo and the drones hit you instead. The
|enemy figured out you're shooting at the birds and has
|now strategically released flocks to occupy your time
|and systems while maneuvering through your defenses.
|it's not about the value of the birds, it's about the
|appropriate application of resources.
|u/Rheticule - 1 month
|
|That would really depend on what you're shooting them
|down with, and at what range. Ideally the answer is
|"super cheap kinetic (bullets)" and "Fairly close"
|which means any "flock of birds" released would be way
|outside any range this this has, and taking out the
|occasional bird that's flying in a warzone is going to
|have minimal impact. And running out of ammo would
|again depend on the ammo type, but "super cheap
|plentiful" is basically a requirement of this type of
|system.
|u/Rude_Thanks_1120 - 1 month
|
|Shoot zem. Shoot zem both.
|u/exipheas - 1 month
|
|That's because r/birdsarentreal /s
|u/GWJYonder - 1 month
|
|If the rotor is enclosed (picture the quad copters with
|the circular housing around the rotor) then the radar will
|probably rarely be able to get a good angle to see that
|effect.
|u/GWJYonder - 1 month
|
|The rotors are plastic too though, so the doppler
|feedback is already going to be really minimal, but
|you're right that the plastic housing may not be
|likely to do much disruption.
|u/Gnomish8 - 1 month
|
|We can do even better... NCTR (non-cooperative target
|recognition) uses radar to look at the engine modulation
|caused by the jet's fan blades to identify the target
|aircraft type when it doesn't respond to IFF. I'm sure we
|could not only identify "drone" vs "bird" but probably
|also type, manufacturer, model, etc... without too much
|trouble.
|u/superpandapear - 1 month
|
|trained hawks
|u/CliffwoodBeach - 1 month
|
|really big fans
|u/Black_Moons - 1 month
|
|>Hell, birdshot would probably work great. Yep, full auto belt
|fed birdshot. Walls of lead moving at 1000fps are hard to avoid.
|u/venatic - 1 month
|
|Cwis tech is nutty, go look up some videos of them in operation.
|I've installed them and test fired them on the LCS series of
|ships and those things are a combination of accuracy and the
|sheer amount of lead being shot downrange. They'd be able to
|take a drone out, that's for sure.
|u/HereticLaserHaggis - 1 month
|
|You use air burst artillery. I'm *really* surprised old school
|AAA hasn't come back in a big way
|u/Kosh401 - 1 month
|
|I just had this exact conversation with someone about small
|phalanx-type systems using .22 or maybe buckshot, weren't sure
|about the shells and range so .22 may be the way to go (for drones
|dropping explosives vs kamikaze). Anyway certainly a moment in
|time for the history books.
|u/fed45 - 1 month
|
|The thought of a CIWS that fires 3000 rounds per minute of
|buckshot is hilarious and terrifying.
|u/kalle13 - 1 month
|
|And Ukraine can replace cheap drones that are shot down, Russia will
|have difficulty replacing any destroyed SU-34s
|u/TheArmoredKitten - 1 month
|
|Yeah the relative attrition is so hysterical it's not even funny.
|Even if Ukraine had to spend $100,000,000 dollars worth of drones
|for every fighter jet destroyed, they would still be coming out
|miles ahead because even at 1:1 nominal cost to nominal damages,
|the relative degradation of threat compared to losses makes the
|drones a no-brainer, and the actual ratio is *significantly* more
|favorable than that. The sheer probability advantage of production
|numbers and negligible personnel overheads makes drones the
|biggest thing to happen to war fighting since mass-produced socks.
|u/elfmere - 1 month
|
|Drones would have to cost 340k to be 100x multiplier. Missed another
|zero or 2.
|u/MaxineTacoQueen - 1 month
|
|Even if they were cheap, Russia doesn't have the ability to make
|more planes right now. The replaceable drones could cost twice as
|much as their targets and potentially still be a good trade. China
|isn't going to sell them an entire Air Force.
|u/snogo - 1 month
|
|the long range drones are a lot more expensive than $2k
|u/WastingTimeIGuess - 1 month
|
|Could be true, usually most long range drones get destroyed by air
|defenses, but if a dozen or so get through that’s still a lot of
|damage as we are seeing.
|u/tuigger - 1 month
|
|Drones are certainly cheaper than most missiles.
|u/WastingTimeIGuess - 1 month
|
|And 20 drones are cheaper than a fighter jet
|u/TheArmoredKitten - 1 month
|
|An F-35 is at least $100,000,000 per, and that's excluding the
|cost of the pilot and all supporting elements. Dollar for
|dollar, you could blacken the sky with drones and still end up
|spending less for a simple strike.
|u/thecyberbob - 1 month
|
|Does read a little bit like "YA! I gave them a face to their fist!"
|vibes.
|u/Funkit - 1 month
|
|We purposefully trained the conscripts wrong...as a joke
|u/Whywouldanyonedothat - 1 month
|
|Sorry, I've just seen this so many times. Where's it from?
|u/TheNewNick - 1 month
|
|[Kung Pow! Enter the
|Fist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY)
|u/pissclamato - 1 month
|
|Chosen One! Weee oooo!
|u/exipheas - 1 month
|
|Wimp-lo in [Kung pow - enter the
|fist](https://youtu.be/HXETLzscI00?feature=shared)
|u/Vineyard_ - 1 month
|
|"We are bleeding, making us the victor." -- Vladimir Wimplov Putin
|u/Blackscales - 1 month
|
|Read's like something Trump says.
|u/Soundwave_13 - 1 month
|
|Putin remains a master strategist
|u/Epsteins_List - 1 month
|
|4-D chess expert lol
|u/WestCoastKush420 - 1 month
|
|The good old blocking punches with your face.
|u/VegasKL - 1 month
|
|In Russia "downed" is synonymous with "crashed on its own, probably
|into the intended target."
|u/thatcrack - 1 month
|
|He doesn't know how to think before he speaks. IF they did take out
|110, it didn't help one bit. Percentage is what matters. 110 out of
|how many? Also, SBU already counted for interceptions and are known to
|fly dummies.
|u/CalImeIshmaeI - 1 month
|
|This is why Russia will never win this war. The path to victory in any
|conflict is removing your enemy’s ability to wage war. Gaining territory
|is great, but if you can’t disrupt your enemy’s ability to fight back,
|you’ll never be able to hold the territory. Ukraine’s ability to wage
|war is defended by the nato states. Russia cannot destroy their
|munitions depots because they’re NATO depots. Russia cannot destroy
|their factories because they’re NATO factories. Russia can’t ultimately
|hit critical Ukrainian infrastructure because it all exists on NATO soil
|and gets shipped in. Meanwhile, Ukraine has been slowly picking apart
|Russian infrastructure and the deeper they move, the more targets come
|into range. It’s a totally asymmetrical situation. I’m fully convinced
|that Iran’s delay in attacking Israel was pushed by Russia because the
|West made it clear their response to Iran would be striking drone and
|munition factories which are ultimately Russian assets. Russia will not
|strike NATO assets, but the West has no issue striking Iranian assets if
|provoked. In a twisted way, the longer the war wages, the greater the
|advantage Ukraine gains.
|u/flyingninja129 - 1 month
|
|Ukraine still houses much of their capacity to wage war, it’s not all
|in NATO countries. Armor, weapons, & fuel depots, factories making
|munitions, intelligence/communication centers, etc are still in
|Ukraine Many of them are in western Ukraine and are well guarded from
|missiles and the like but still Russia has been incapable of
|effectively striking them Also something important is that Ukraine
|still gets the higher tech parts to repair broken equipment. Russia
|struggles a lot more (sanctions) so every destroyed piece of
|infrastructure hurts Russia a lot more
|u/fuishaltiena - 1 month
|
|> Russia struggles a lot more (sanctions) so every destroyed piece
|of infrastructure hurts Russia a lot more They asked mothercucking
|NORTH KOREA for ammo and supplies, that tells enough about russia's
|capabilities at producing the necessary stuff.
|u/darkenseyreth - 1 month
|
|More than likely NK is just a proxy to China. China delivers ammo
|to NK, NK sends it to Russia, China gets to pretend their neutral.
|u/fuishaltiena - 1 month
|
|Manufacturing date was stamped on those shells they got from NK,
|shit was made in the 60's. There were videos from russian
|soldiers, they said that one in four shells was a dud because
|they weren't stored properly. China doesn't want to anger the
|west any more, their whole economy depends on us buying their
|shit. Sanctions would put them in the exact same situation as
|russia is right now.
|u/Herr_Tilke - 1 month
|
|China does not support North Korea in that capacity. Most of the
|shells North Korea is sending to Russia are outdated 122mm
|rounds that Russia is scrambling to find WWII era guns to fire
|them with. China is sending Russia weapons components and
|allowing passage of the NK arms shipments through their borders.
|They are entirely complicit in Russia's crimes. But your
|assertion is incorrect.
|u/itsshrinking101 - 1 month
|
|Russia's foreign minister Lavrov flew into Tehran on a hastily
|arranged flight when Khameini declared Iran would strongly attack
|Israel. Russia panicked that a strong Israeli response will target
|Iran's drone factories. You're correct that Russia and Iran are
|militarily linked. Iran's "strategy" of making Israel wait for their
|attack is BS. They're waiting to get their deliveries to Russia before
|Israel craters their factories.
|u/Rachel_from_Jita - 1 month
|
|The shahed drones still get through sometimes, but the big thing
|Russia has been salivating over is [big new production arrangements
|for huge amounts of Iranian ballistic
|missiles](https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4825856-us-threatens-
|swift-and-severe-response-if-iran-sends-ballistic-missiles-to-
|russia/). A leveled Iran would prevent them having a new source of
|the big toys they believe in, or I should say: The toys Putin wants
|that he can use to terrorize Kyiv with every single time he doesn't
|like something in the news. Putin is quite mentally ill and we
|should be forthright about that. He desperately needs to create
|fear and terror in others to maintain his self image and external
|persona. He rebuilt his entire inner world, brand, and Russian
|Nationalism around that. Any news cycle where he looks like the
|unpopular, powerless, petulant child he is feels like a *bad* news
|cycle for him.
|u/RoKa89ARG - 1 month
|
|It's weird, how come Russia cannot build drones ? It's a massive
|country and with a lot of resources...
|u/drhip - 1 month
|
|Corruption
|u/jesjimher - 1 month
|
|All that's right, as long as NATO support doesn't vanish.
|u/mind_mine - 1 month
|
|The main thing to keep Nato strong is to keep that orange fuck out
|of the white house
|u/will_holmes - 1 month
|
|On his own, he'd only be able to stop sending arms to Ukraine.
|As Biden found out when he tried to send additional arms to
|Ukraine past what had already been committed, new spending
|requires congressional authorisation.
|u/xSorry_Not_Sorry - 1 month
|
|Yes, unfortunately. Congress appropriates funds, the Executive
|manages the actual spending of said funds.
|u/jungleboogiemonster - 1 month
|
|In the past Congress has approved the funding to send assistance
|to Ukraine. The president is who has the authority to use that
|funding to actually send the assistance. When Trump was
|president he tried to use the congress approved funding for quid
|pro quo purposes by telling Ukraine they wouldn't get assistance
|unless they started investigating Joe Biden. Trump could also
|just not use the funding and give Ukraine nothing. He could not
|use the funding to send assistance to Russia. Trump has also
|been slow to implement sanctions against Russia. Slow to the
|point he missed a deadline by months.
|[https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/politics/trump-russia-sanctions-
|chemical-weapons-spy-poisoning/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2
|019/08/02/politics/trump-russia-sanctions-chemical-weapons-spy-
|poisoning/index.html)
|u/gigilu2020 - 1 month
|
|The troops are still human. They can't go forever.
|u/Madrun - 1 month
|
|Sounds good in theory, until western countries stop sending weapons
|and ammo (like earlier this year). That's why Russian misinformation
|campaign is so strong, trying to sway public opinion against Ukraine.
|I live in Oklahoma and the Republicans who were so anti Communist
|Russia back in the day seem to all think we shouldn't be helping
|Ukraine now.
|u/RudeCartoonist1030 - 1 month
|
|That is 100% because Russia’a cyber disinformation campaign. And it
|worked. Humans have an insatiable hunger to seek of confrontations
|that reinforce their world view. When social media was flooded by
|Russian bots disguised as normal Americans, that campaign was able
|to warp certain peoples world views. I mean, remember the shirts
|those two old guys were wearing that said, “I’d rather be Russian
|than a democrat.” That’s some shit I didn’t think id ever see in my
|life. A consequence of dumbing down the American education system
|means people lack critical skills. And part of the problem with tech
|companies is that they predate on peoples emotional capacity through
|building algorithmic information bubbles. 90% of people have no idea
|that they’re seeing a curated and inorganic worldview. They just
|think that everyone believes this shit
|u/theOtherJT - 1 month
|
|I've gotta say as someone who remembers something of life during
|the cold war, it is absolutely impossible for me to understand how
|"Better dead than red" ended up... wherever the fuck this is. I
|don't see how you can live through the 4 minute warning drills and
|get to a place today where you think that Russia invading other
|countries isn't something you need oppose as strongly as possible
|_right the hell now_.
|u/Jamaz - 1 month
|
|It's sad because the largest group of Americans that support
|Russian aggression is old enough to remember the Cuban Missile
|Crisis, Vietnam War, and the fall of the Soviet Union where they
|were under threat of nuclear annihilation and celebrated when
|the communist government collapsed. Insane how easy it is for a
|person to flip ideologies just because social media and news
|algorithms tell you to - or they're just so nihilistic that
|they're willing to throw the entire American government system
|into the gutter as long as Russia helps them win the election.
|u/loveshercoffee - 1 month
|
|As someone who remembers "Fallout Shelter" signs posted in
|places like the post office, the library and city hall, I say
|a-fucking-men to what you said.
|u/ablackcloudupahead - 1 month
|
|I don't remember that time well, but I read a lot of Tom Clancy
|as a teen and it surprises me as well
|u/NA_0_10_never_forget - 1 month
|
|Good thing the US is going to start working on a framework to target
|disinformationists as combatants (as disinformation is a weapon
|system). Whether through cyberspace or.. kinetically.. hehe..
|u/MadamXY - 1 month
|
|I’d like to read more about this if you have a link or maybe even
|the title of an article.
|u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean - 1 month
|
|Thats gonna be a tough one to enforce.
|u/Rough_Willow - 1 month
|
|I agree, while troll farms are valid military targets, they need
|to be hit with fire or acid to get past their regeneration.
|u/CalImeIshmaeI - 1 month
|
|If Russia is banking on the US military industrial complex backing
|down, then Russia is fucked. US political theatre may produce
|small disruptions in the flow of weapons. But the production and
|sale of arms never, ever stops. It is the foundational core of the
|US and has been since Manifest Destiny.
|u/ArthurBonesly - 1 month
|
|The war ends when Russian funds run dry. Estimates show that the
|Russian war chest has a little less than 2 years left. The best thing
|Ukraine can do is hit the pocketbooks harder. This is why going into
|Russian territory is so important; the ability to put a greater strain
|on Russian activity means the war chest depletes faster.
|u/eugay - 1 month
|
|I’d like to see those estimates as my understanding is that they
|have a budget surplus?
|u/ArthurBonesly - 1 month
|
|Washington by way of the Washington Post estimated 300b in a war
|chest last year.
|https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/11/us-intensifies-
|push-use-moscows-300-billion-war-chest-kyiv/ From there its just
|a facor of calculating average expenditures and returns within a
|war economy. Basically, once the Russia savings runs out, the war
|becomes direct cost and the people will start feeling it in ways
|they weren't before.
|u/eldiablodelafiesta - 1 month
|
|Doesn't mean they can't fund the war anymore at that point,
|unfortunately. Just need to reallocate budget to it from
|elsewhere by prioritizing the war over something else
|u/Sure-Sympathy5014 - 1 month
|
|No Iran's decision was simply from Israel saying if Iran's response
|killed a single civilian it would respond in a "disproportionate way"
|aka they will kill leaders.
|u/I_Am_Jacks_Karma - 1 month
|
|I thought it was from the US sub poking its head up to say hi
|u/stanglemeir - 1 month
|
|If Iran gets too spicy that sub says America will show them why we
|don’t have socialized healthcare.
|u/5510 - 1 month
|
|This is often unintentionally an anti-universal healthcare
|point. While many people would be happy to cut
|the military budget in order to have universal healthcare, just
|re-enforcing the idea that universal healthcare requires budget
|cuts in other areas helps re-enforce conservative points.
|The current US system is extremely ineffecient, and it's quite
|possible that universal healthcare would be cheaper. Which
|would mean (hypothetically) the US could afford even MORE
|military (or whatever) with universal healthcare.
|u/stanglemeir - 1 month
|
|Oh I’m aware. More of a joke than anything. We already spend
|more money on healthcare than we do on the military. We
|already spend more on healthcare than even countries like
|France. I personally believe in an America where we can not
|go into terrible medical debt and bomb the shit out of Iran 🇺🇸
|u/xorgol - 1 month
|
|Just to contribute to your point, the US *government* spends
|more on healthcare, both per capita and in absolute, than
|any country which provides universal healthcare. Counting
|private expenditure it's even more ridiculous. The only
|sensible argument I know in favour of keeping the current
|system is that this massive flow of money provides margin
|for companies, who reinvest it in research.
|u/5510 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, but it's a common enough joke that I always have to be
|the "you must be fun at parties guy", since it does kind of
|subtly make the opposite point that a lot of people using it
|actually want to make.
|u/shadowkiller - 1 month
|
|But we already spend more on socialized medicine than the
|military.  2024 YTD Spending  Medicare: $721B Defense:
|$715B https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-
|guide/federal-spending/
|u/FrogTrainer - 1 month
|
|Not to mention a significant part of the defense budget is for
|medical. The DOD will pay bonuses to hire doctors, pay off
|their med school loans to entice a 4 or 6 year contract, and
|even pay for them to go to advanced schools.
|u/hezdokwow - 1 month
|
|"Hey there, I'm ol Gregg I'm a scaly man sub."
|u/daveintex13 - 1 month
|
|they will kill *more* leaders. ftfy.
|u/marr - 1 month
|
|Actually going after the people responsible for decision making
|seems like the most proportionate thing you could do but I guess
|world leaders don't see it that way.
|u/softclone - 1 month
|
|"disproportionate response" has been Israel's strategy forever, so I
|doubt this was news to Iran
|u/Sure-Sympathy5014 - 1 month
|
|Yes but officially they say it's a proportionate response. They
|simply see 100:1 as a proportionate response. So what do you
|think they feel a disproportionate response would be?
|u/funguyshroom - 1 month
|
|100:1 is a proportion alright
|u/healthywealthyhappy8 - 1 month
|
|Iran was dissuaded by 12 F-22s being moved to the Middle East.
|u/imhereforspuds - 1 month
|
|Speaking as someone from a country who specialised in this sort of
|thing. What people forget is in the early days of the war the old
|ladies were filling petrol bombs. People laugh but this is guerrilla
|warfare and is no joke. If the populous want sovereignty and freedom
|then each of them will fight for it. And they have tasted both sides,
|they wont be going back under the boot.
|u/loveshercoffee - 1 month
|
|I remember a video of a park full of ladies and little kids
|shredding styrofoam to make molotov cocktails. It was a thing of
|beauty and made me root even harder for the Ukrainian people.
|u/rhodesc - 1 month
|
|absolutely. the first picture I saw of ukraine war was a gas
|station/mini mart that could have been down the street. No way they
|want to live like their neighbors who have less toilets than vodka.
|u/DelphiTsar - 1 month
|
|A point that gets left out is Russia isn't even in the hard part yet.
|US took out Afghan government in like a month and they whittled
|resolve over two decades. Imagine that but western intelligence and
|Javelins. Trying to occupy Ukraine will be an absolute nightmare.
|u/ZombieJesus1987 - 1 month
|
|Yup. It's why Russia resorted to terrorism in order to try to crush
|Ukraine's morale, but all it did was invigorate their will to fight
|u/BlueMaxx9 - 1 month
|
|The biggest resource that Russia is attacking is people. Soldiers
|specifically, but also just Ukrainian people in general. At this
|point, Russia is literally running a war of attrition and hoping they
|can kill enough soldiers that Ukraine simply can’t find enough people
|to mount a defense. Russia is gambling that NATO will not start
|supplying Ukraine with troops. We aren’t talking about advisors,
|trainers, military doctors or anything like that, but actual front-
|line infantry. It is disgusting, but Russia has a lot of people it
|considers expendable, and its leaders believe they Ukraine will not be
|able to withstand the losses that Russia can. If NATO or any Ukrainian
|ally starts to send non-Ukrainian infantry to the front line, that is
|the end of Russia’s last hope of winning this war because soldiers are
|the only thing Russia has any chance at getting Ukraine to run out of.
|Personally, I believe this is part of why you see several European
|countries starting programs to increase the number of active-duty
|soldiers in their armies. They are trying to signal to Russia that
|they are willing to fill in Ukraine’s need for soldiers as well rather
|than letting Ukraine collapse. The hope being the Russia takes them
|seriously and decides to negotiate for peace rather than lose outright
|and have terms forced on it.
|u/CryptoHopeful - 1 month
|
|Unless Trump wins, then it's over for Ukraine... He'll try to pull the
|USA out of NATO again.
|u/k43r - 1 month
|
|In a way, they could kill all the soldiers. The heads are
|irreplaceable
|u/Doublelegg - 1 month
|
|> I’m fully convinced that Iran’s delay in attacking Israel was pushed
|by Russia because the West made it clear their response to Iran would
|be striking drone and munition factories which are ultimately Russian
|assets. That and Iran doesnt want to end up like Russia is RN
|u/thegainsfairy - 1 month
|
|I agree with your points, but Ukraine has a civilian population & a
|civilian economy. people are a big part of how war is waged. If they
|destroy the population and the population's will to wage war, they can
|win.
|u/Inevitable-East-1386 - 1 month
|
|On the one side you‘ve got a army backed up by their whole nation and
|mostly the rest of the world. Highly motivated with a clear mind and
|focus to defend those they love from an invader threatening them. On
|the other hand you have confused people mostly mercenaries who are not
|clear what they are fighting for with nearly bo motivation other than
|survival and hated by most of the world currently. Im my opinion if
|the incursion goes deeper and hits more targets which are crucial for
|the russian attacks, the demotivated and tired russian troops will just…
|surrender.
|u/superkp - 1 month
|
|> troops will just… surrender apparently, that's exactly what's
|happening. There's a bunch of reports of surrender as Ukraine got
|pretty far over the border. I guess a lot of the front line was
|volunteer forces, and other forces russia could depend on not
|surrendering (whether any individual was coerced or cooperating I
|doubt we'll know for sure). Most of the 'held back' troops were those
|that were doing their mandatory military service, and not supposed to
|be used for front line work (partly because combat training is a back
|seat, partly because of morale issues), so when Ukraine broke through
|the front lines and started to encounter these less committed
|soldiers, these russian troops just immediately laid down arms.
|u/reshp2 - 1 month
|
|Largest such attack *so far*.
|u/r3dditr0x - 1 month
|
| "All your bases are belong to us!" Is that what the Ukrainian
|soldiers are saying? Cause I'm here for it.
|u/Happy-Initiative-838 - 1 month
|
|Since Ukraine is historically Russia, Ukrainians are actually Russians
|and therefore only Russians are occupying Kursk. -Putin
|u/AttilaTheMuun - 1 month
|
|> occupying Kursk. You mean New Ukraine
|u/oneeighthirish - 1 month
|
|The Kursk People's Republic
|u/CMDR_Agony_Aunt - 1 month
|
|You mean historical Ukraine?
|u/LoBeastmode - 1 month
|
|No true Ukrainian
|u/Lex2882 - 1 month
|
|I wonder what the russian state news will tell its people, "Some
|asteroids fell this night" near some airbases"
|u/amputeenager - 1 month
|
|we are becoming a more efficient, leaner Air Force to save money.
|u/DiscoDale81 - 1 month
|
|And our deceased pilots no longer need paying.
|u/WheresFlatJelly - 1 month
|
|I wonder if the widows are paid; probably not
|u/Athiostitarian - 1 month
|
|they are paid in
|[cheetos](https://x.com/raging545/status/1810760253304172973).
|seriously.
|u/DICKFUCKERDOTCOM - 1 month
|
|Yeah, widows are p~~aid~~ushed out of a window.
|u/missdonttellme - 1 month
|
|In a curious coincidence, fire-related accidents occurred at four air
|bases overnight. Custodial staff were given proper training regarding
|smoking at work. Nothing to worry about.
|u/mockg - 1 month
|
|Same thing they always say "Russian air defense shoot down all air
|born objects but some debris still caused light damage. Any photos you
|found are fake."
|u/CabagePastry - 1 month
|
|Smoking accident involving astronomers and western capitalist pig-dogs
|on the International Space Station
|u/Colin-Clout - 1 month
|
|They banned YouTube like 2 weeks ago. Because videos of the Ukrainian
|incursion into Russia and Russian citizens evacuating, were
|circulating on YT.
|u/DeAd_InFeRnO - 1 month
|
|YouTube is not banned in Russia, it slowed(in most). And incursion
|was after YouTube became slow.
|u/blifflesplick - 1 month
|
|They tend to say it was an accident or incompetence in a blatant
|effort to never say someone was more powerful than them, even for a
|moment
|u/iamapizza - 1 month
|
|Some asteroids fell out of a window onto some fighter jets
|u/pkennedy - 1 month
|
|They did say they flew in and knocked out all the AA they could find.
|I wonder if one of the main points of this Kursk invasion was to open up
|a new 30km wide AA free corridor that everything could fly through.
|u/Maximum_Overdrive - 1 month
|
|I hope they did some real damage!
|u/Soundwave_13 - 1 month
|
|To shreds you say?
|u/DOOManiac - 1 month
|
|And how is the mrs. holding up?
|u/DogsRNice - 1 month
|
|To shreds you say...
|u/jdeo1997 - 1 month
|
|Is the apartment rent controlled?
|u/Madshibs - 1 month
|
|I heard it was more like smithereens.
|u/JulianZ88 - 1 month
|
|Man, just let them hit every military installation in Western Russia
|with every long range UA has available, Stormshadows, SCALPs, TAURUS,
|ATACMS, homegrown. The war will be over by 2025.
|u/kid_sleepy - 1 month
|
|Does each of those different missiles have different ranges and
|payloads? My rocket knowledge is *not* as adept as it should be I
|suppose. I know I can google, but maybe you’ll tell me the
|difference between them all quickly…? :)
|u/JohannSuende - 1 month
|
|As a matter of fact, he did not tell you the differences really
|quickly
|u/SiWeyNoWay - 1 month
|
|Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
|u/a_hopeless_rmntic - 1 month
|
|Wait wait wait, so the Ukraine gets F-16s and then proceeds to hit
|Russian airforce bases God-tier Russia has lost the initiative, haha
|Go Ukraine!
|u/fancczf - 1 month
|
|There were no F16s involved in that. Drone attack.
|u/firemage22 - 1 month
|
|They gota use Drones, i'm not sure the F-16 is powerful enough to
|lift Ukrainian pilot's balls. Lets get them some F-15EXs
|u/TonyDys - 1 month
|
|Plus isn’t there only like 10 there so far? I doubt they would send
|them into Russian airspace now. We are so slow with delivering
|everything it’s beyond frustrating, especially because we will
|inevitably do all the shit we are saying we won’t do now just after
|thousands more die.
|u/CalHoward - 1 month
|
|Ukraine. Not “the Ukraine”. Calling it “the Ukraine” is Russian
|propaganda aimed at undermining Ukraine’s sovereignty by implying it’s
|merely a region, not an independent nation.
|u/NEON_TYR0N3 - 1 month
|
|The only time when russians could somewhat reliably bank on their
|inability to comprehend English articles
|u/DAMG808 - 1 month
|
|This! Small but significant detail. Slava!
|u/FifiTheFancy - 1 month
|
|Would you mind explaining this? Not that I disagree with the
|sentiment. I’ve read this exact message from different posts and
|didn’t fully understand.
|u/Sergia_Quaresma - 1 month
|
|Ukraine, in Russian etymology is base on at the edge, or on the
|periphery of. u= at or near krai= border, edge, etc. u-krai-ne.
|Saying “the” Ukraine lessens its significance and is a part of
|Russias history of not seeing Ukraine as its own nation but an
|outer region of sorts. The implied significance over others as in
|there’s multiple edges and Ukraine is one of them. Ukraine by
|itself is the country, “the Ukraine” is an area that is less
|significant. It’s not The France because there aren’t other
|France’s to contend with. Nor is it The Canada. The Ukraine keeps
|the country connected to Russia as a borderland.
|u/Graskell - 1 month
|
|Or to put it another way, defining Ukraine purely by its
|relationship to Russia implies that Russia is the more important
|of the two and Ukraine is of lesser significance. It would be
|like calling America "New England"... ... ...wait a second.
|u/KrazyA1pha - 1 month
|
|It would be like calling America “the Colonies.”
|u/forever_a10ne - 1 month
|
|Fuck ‘em up real good.
|u/PrometheanSwing - 1 month
|
|L after L for Russia, you love to see it.
|u/DuckmanDrake69 - 1 month
|
|The joke of the world
|u/Earth_Friendly-5892 - 1 month
|
|It’s scary that so many Republican lawmakers aren’t supporting giving
|Ukraine the financial aid they need to win the war. And if Donald Trump
|wins, he’ll ignore Ukraine too. Anyone who doesn’t understand the
|security risk to democracies in the world, including the United States,
|if Putin is allowed to successfully invade and takeover a fellow
|sovereign nation, is not a friend of democracy.
|u/ZyglroxOfficial - 1 month
|
|I had a Ukrainian friend (who lives in Kyiv) tell me once "If I were
|American, I would totally vote for Trump" I told him that if Trump
|won, he'd cut funding to Ukraine, and my friend says "I don't think he
|would do that" As if he wasn't impeached for attempting that exact
|same thing...
|u/Earth_Friendly-5892 - 1 month
|
|Your friend’s reasoning makes absolutely no sense.
|u/9ersaur - 1 month
|
|When you ask people who are not addicted to Foxanyl why they vote
|Trump, the reason never makes sense.
|u/ZyglroxOfficial - 1 month
|
|It makes sense from somebody who grew up in Eastern Europe, where
|"Communism" ruined everything it touched. Leftist policies are a
|luxury for countries like the USA. That being said, it takes two
|fucking seconds to google and see that Trump is absolutely not a
|friend of Ukraine. My friend is smart enough, he should know
|better
|u/TjW0569 - 1 month
|
|What Republicans are calling "extreme leftist" would be
|moderately right in most European countries, and they call
|pretty much everybody who isn't them "communist", to the point
|where it's lost all meaning. But someone upthread made the
|point that regimes like China, Russia, and Iran or non-state
|actors like ISIS, Hamas, and Hezbollah are not making decisions
|based on prosperity, but ideology. MAGA Republicanism, or
|Trumpism, is the same. It's making decisions based on ideology,
|not what will be good for the people or the nation in the long
|term. Easily foreseeable consequences will not deter them.
|u/99thSymphony - 1 month
|
|Your friend sounds like every trump supporter I've interacted with.
|If it doesn't sound right to them, it suddenly isn't.
|u/mynamesyow19 - 1 month
|
|Trump has been bowing to Putin for DECADES now, as he helped him
|launder billions through Deutche Bank and real estate sale scheme.
|Trump said he trusted Putin over his own US Intel agencies in front of
|the Entire World. the Republican Party is now the Trump-lican Party.
|nothing confusing about them now bowing to Russia. Pretty clear what
|happened and why.
|u/ToSeeAgainAgainAgain - 1 month
|
|Let's not forget one of the... I don't even know how to qualify this
|headline from 2018: [GOP Senators Spend Independence Day In
|Moscow](https://www.npr.org/2018/07/06/626664156/gop-senators-spend-
|july-4-in-moscow)
|u/rvbeachguy - 1 month
|
|Money from Russia and still gop supporting Trump and the traitors
|u/Limos42 - 1 month
|
|>Trump has been bowing to ~~Trump~~ **Putin**
|u/bubbasass - 1 month
|
|I forget where I read/heard this, but if Trump won in 2020 he was
|going to pull the US out of NATO. He even briefly discussed it in the
|2016 campaign, and has also mentioned it in the 2024 campaign.  He’s
|saying he’d pull the US out citing that the US is spending far more
|than the other nations and that the US is basically carrying the
|alliance and contributing way more than they get from the alliance. 
|u/OrangeJuiceKing13 - 1 month
|
|His National Security Advisor John Bolton said he was likely to
|leave NATO during a second term. 
|u/muchado88 - 1 month
|
|The NDAA for 2024 prohibits the President from pulling out of NATO
|without 2/3rds approval of the Senate. That language could be
|removed in next year's NDAA but I wouldn't bet on it.
|u/DeSynthed - 1 month
|
|Yep, need our nato allies in Europe to help Ukraine if November goes
|Russias way
|u/MyNameIsDaveToo - 1 month
|
|Slava Ukrani!
|u/Showmethepathplease - 1 month
|
|Bit of a clue about why they’re making the incursion  Can’t use long
|range missiles - may as well get into drone range …
|u/Vano_Kayaba - 1 month
|
|I don't think 970 km instead of 1000 makes much difference. Such hits
|were made before, and will continue and increase later
|u/tomtomclubthumb - 1 month
|
|I think it's more about disrupting the defence lines.
|u/deep_pants_mcgee - 1 month
|
|that and the massive natural gas pipeline in the city. I believe
|Ukraine said they wouldn't fuck with in in Ukraine, but I don't
|think they made any promises about not blowing it up in Russia.
|u/splork-chop - 1 month
|
|This is a critical bit of information missing from most
|discussion. About 50% of Russia's natural gas to EU markets
|(yes it's still flowing) passes right through the center of this
|UA incursion. UA picked this spot precisely. Any stray Russian
|bomb that hits the pipeline will be a huge problem for Russia,
|and potentially the EU. People are probably asking why does UA
|still allow Russian gas to flow through it's territory, and the
|reason is international business contracts and EU pressure.
|u/deep_pants_mcgee - 1 month
|
|you know Slovakia is a bit nervous this week.
|u/Diablos_lawyer - 1 month
|
|They won't blow it up, they'll sit on it so Russia can't oust
|them from the area with bombs.
|u/deep_pants_mcgee - 1 month
|
|Might be a shame if these valves here were to close. They
|don't have to destroy it to mess with it.
|u/dimsum2121 - 1 month
|
|They don't want to mess with it. That oil goes to Europe,
|to NATO, they don't want to mess with that pipeline.
|u/googolplexy - 1 month
|
|If anything, open the line up. Free fuel for Europe!
|u/Woody_Guthrie1904 - 1 month
|
|This is a feint. They’re testing responses and threatening supply
|lines to see who does what.
|u/itskobold - 1 month
|
|Might be, might not be, no layperson (us) can say with any
|certainty what the plans are. I agree with you but we're all
|just speculating
|u/Woody_Guthrie1904 - 1 month
|
|I agree we’re like the heralds from medieval times spectating
|from the sidelines. I think you and I are both seeing the
|same thing and military doctrine hasn’t really changed over
|time.
|u/pres465 - 1 month
|
|I like the theory that the incursion and retreat are allowing for
|Ukrainian infiltrators (with drones) to filter back into Russia's
|interior more easily and (maybe?) attack bases even normally far out
|of range. I think infiltration is likely, but the "with drones"
|part I find a bit dubious. We'll see.
|u/Sure-Sympathy5014 - 1 month
|
|They were killing Russians 2:1 in trench warfare which is not a good
|strategy for Ukraine. So they have opened up the field and and using
|mobile warfare and killing them 100 :1
|u/Rambling_Lunatic - 1 month
|
|Drive me closer! I want to hit them with my sword!
|u/Glavurdan - 1 month
|
|Just for the record, Ukraine attack Russia with 117 drones and 4
|missiles this last evening. At the same time, Russia attacked Ukraine
|with 23 drones and 2 missiles.
|u/goodvibinyo - 1 month
|
|Great news! Keep it coming, destroy the terrorist Putin dictatorship
|u/Ol_stinkler - 1 month
|
|Fuckin get some.
|u/Colecoman1982 - 1 month
|
|Always.
|u/LongBongJohnSilver - 1 month
|
|Just like his protégé.
|u/luffy_mib - 1 month
|
|let him whine all he wants. It won't alter the fact that Ukraine is
|seriously kicking their collective asses. Let him waste his own
|precious time on unproductive things while the enemy is already moving
|on to the final boss dungeon. For the rest of us, it's like watching a
|weekly Saturday cartoon villain suffering defeat after defeat.
|u/newsreadhjw - 1 month
|
|All your airbase are belong to us
|u/Mediocre-Sundom - 1 month
|
|How did that saying go? “Our power comes from the perception of our
|power.” Well, seems like the illusion is crumbling fast. I can only
|imagine the dread Putler and his bootlickers are feeling right now.
|u/1776_MDCCLXXVI - 1 month
|
|It’s crazy how the entire world thought Russia was a superpower. Putin
|drank his own koolaid too, which makes it even funnier.
|u/SayingTheThingsIWant - 1 month
|
|Thought it would be over in a few days did we Russia?
|u/1776_MDCCLXXVI - 1 month
|
|So happy to see this. Fuck Putin.
|u/ITrCool - 1 month
|
|I don’t see Russia surviving this war with its reputation or power
|intact. Seriously. They need to leave Ukraine and walk away while they
|still have some form of self dignity. IT’S OVER VLAD!!
|u/TarkovBirdman - 1 month
|
|The airbases unfortunately fell off a balcony
|u/louisa1925 - 1 month
|
|Need a gif of a cat ( Ukrainian Black Leopard) pushing it off a coffee
|table. For example.. https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/s/fvUZN3KKtV
|u/BothZookeepergame612 - 1 month
|
|Putin brought this on himself, he totally underestimated Ukraine from
|the beginning, as well as NATO's resolve to assist Ukraine.
|u/LuminousFables - 1 month
|
|Ukraine's ability to strike multiple Russian airbases in a single night
|is impressive and demonstrates a significant capability in their
|military strategyy.
|u/princemousey1 - 1 month
|
|I think it’s more that Russia has absolutely zero defences left after
|they committed every single conscript to the Ukraine invasion.
|u/Big-Summer- - 1 month
|
|Am I wrong in feeling delighted at this?
|u/R_Lennox - 1 month
|
|It makes me happy. Something that feels so right can’t be wrong can
|it?! Slava Ukraini!!🇺🇦
|u/Silly_Elevator_3111 - 1 month
|
|That’s a lot of smoking incidents
|u/oripash - 1 month
|
|Budanov called. Something about wanting to place an order for more
|cigarettes.
|u/phred_666 - 1 month
|
|Hopefully this is just a warmup for something even bigger.
|u/DexRogue - 1 month
|
|Slava Ukraini! You get what's coming to you Russian scum.
|u/AntiSnoringDevice - 1 month
|
|There is a window on the 8th floor waiting for Putin
|u/Beardgang650 - 1 month
|
|Lmao Russian are getting bent over like a hooker at a motel 8
|u/111anza - 1 month
|
|Largest attack of this type.....yet
|u/MattMBerkshire - 1 month
|
|Still waiting for that hit on the Kremlin. Just shake the Moskrats a
|little.
|u/Hot_Baker4215 - 1 month
|
|Ukraine flexin like a mofucka
|u/OrcWarChief - 1 month
|
|The ultimate Uno Reverse card
|u/Marschall_Bluecher - 1 month
|
|Fuck the Kremlin Gremlin! Let's gooooo! Slava Ukraini!
|u/shino4242 - 1 month
|
|Good news is that even if Russia wins, they certainly wont be able to do
|this to anyone else for quite some time. Ukraine is giving Eastern
|Europe some big sighs of relief. Givem hell boys. Slava Ukraine. Fuck
|Putin.
|u/Trappist235 - 1 month
|
|Something changed in the last month
|u/loveshercoffee - 1 month
|
|Hearing Kirby say, "Putin can get his ass out of Ukraine and call it a
|day," made me feel like something was up.
|u/T00luser - 1 month
|
|Finally having the F16s for defense.
|u/runetrantor - 1 month
|
|Turns out untying the arms of your fighter makes them fight back
|better. Hopefully more restrictions and better equipment follows,
|keep pushing.
|u/stupiderslegacy - 1 month
|
|Good. They're a fucking rogue state at this point, and should have their
|continued ability to make war completely removed.
|u/GagOnMacaque - 1 month
|
|There's a few loopholes Ukraine can use to use missiles in Russia. 1.
|Confiscate Russian missiles at sites and use them on Russia. 2. Declare
|parts of Russia is Ukraine! You're not striking Russia, you're striking
|within your own boundaries.
|u/MonsoonQueen9081 - 1 month
|
|I’m all for Ukraine’s special military operation!
|u/Rare_Ad_1292 - 1 month
|
|This must be peak frustration for the gremlin in the kremlin.
|u/420comfortablynumb - 1 month
|
|Or better someone tops him
|u/-Davo - 1 month
|
|this is the literal definition of **special military operation**
|u/Sad_Anxiety1401 - 1 month
|
|Plot twist, Ukraine annexes Russia
|u/pancakebreak - 1 month
|
|Windows are about to get real unsafe to be around in Russia again.
|u/Individual-Praline20 - 1 month
|
|Busy bees! Buzz buzz 🐝
|u/GiveIceCream - 1 month
|
|So Putin was telling the truth… Ukraine WAS preparing to attack Russia…
|u/greenplasticreply - 1 month
|
|fuck russia
|u/lunatyk05 - 1 month
|
|Fuck Putin
|u/willywagga - 1 month
|
|They need to take out that damn bridge.
|u/rvbeachguy - 1 month
|
|Not really, so much of Russian forces are waiting for a attack, let
|them wait and Ukraine attack Russian military bases and airports
|Destroying Russia infrastructure and railways and airports and
|seaports and oil fields will bankrupt them
|u/Thanato26 - 1 month
|
|Huh, in beginning to think the Russian military isn't that good.
|u/3ConsoleGuy - 1 month
|
|Russias power is often over-sold as a force that threatens the
|entirety of Europe and could march West all the way to Portugal. The
|reality is they’re losing to Ukraine which is utilizing old dumpster
|scraps from NATO nations and is enlisting 40 year old farmers to
|fight. Truth is Poland by itself could completely wipe out the
|entirety of Russias military in several weeks. The real risk has
|always been Russias Nuclear arsenal and a madman at the controls.
|u/palacinkka12345 - 1 month
|
|The Russians are trying to find a way to make a drone from a broomstick,
|a kite, and some tin foil.
|u/MorienWynter - 1 month
|
|"McGuyvechkin, what's taking you so long?" McG: "I need another
|handle from an Ukrainan toilet to use as an aileron!"
|u/MakingItElsewhere - 1 month
|
|They've blown up hundreds of (their own) soldiers trying, but hope to
|get the technology off the ground soon.
|u/MarkaSpada - 1 month
|
|Do it more UA. Don't forget the refineries too!
|u/wrestlingfan007 - 1 month
|
|Fuck em up, Ukraine, Fuck em up *clap clap*
|u/propolizer - 1 month
|
|‘I fucked your motherland!’
|u/luffy_mib - 1 month
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|If Ukraine wins, it will be motherland Ukraine instead.
|u/AnotherBigToblerone - 1 month
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|Hopefully just the first of very many to come.
|u/L-W-J - 1 month
|
|Awesome.
|u/DonAsiago - 1 month
|
|Such attack...wow..much explosion
|u/lego_mannequin - 1 month
|
|The only way to stop this war is bring it to Russia. Ukraine should be
|allowed to bomb whatever will deter future attacks. Airbases, military
|positions, other bases.
|u/captainthor - 1 month
|
|You know, if Ukraine was a tiny Scottish Terrier fighting back against a
|giant Grizzly bear, I do believe the Grizzly would have given up by now.
|But Putin doesn't have the common sense of a bear. We just may see the
|Terrier ultimately kill the bear in this case (cause a civil war, and/or
|splintering of the Russian nation).
|u/luffy_mib - 1 month
|
|This war is slowly turning into real life version of David (Ukraine)
|vs Goliath (Russian), and we all know who won in the end.
|u/astride_unbridulled - 1 month
|
|Love me a good bully-suckering
|u/LostLegendDog - 1 month
|
|Why is Ukraine being so mean and russophobic??? /S
|u/wafflecone927 - 1 month
|
|Remember watching an excellent video that broke down this wars major
|steps. And it highlighted that nobody is more Russophobic than Putin
|himself, breaking ties to neighboring countries and sending young men
|to die in heaps
|u/pablosu81 - 1 month
|
|Mighty Russia My ass!!! You fucking suck at everything.
|u/lelolumad - 1 month
|
|Russia was considered 2nd world army before the war. Then 2nd army in
|Ukraine, now they are 2nd army in Russia!
|u/TheBulletThatCouldve - 1 month
|
|More.....MORE
|u/ihoptdk - 1 month
|
|Good, keep at it.
|u/moredrinksplease - 1 month
|
|Get emmmmm
|u/brandolinium - 1 month
|
|WhooHooo! 🎶 I love to hear it! I’m gonna dance to it! I love to hear
|it! 🎶
|u/fergyrdf - 1 month
|
|Pootin crying, "DON'T...Stop, DON'T...Stop.....the civilized world
|cheering "Don't Stop, Don't Stop", great job Ukraine. The longer Pootin
|continues this shit show the dumber he looks!
|u/MessageMePuppies - 1 month
|
|It's about damn time Ukraine!
|u/WillingSubject69 - 1 month
|
|Good! Fuck you dirty fucking russians!!!
|u/FijiWaterIsDelicious - 1 month
|
|I just jizzed
|u/Panda_tears - 1 month
|
|Shit poppin tf OFF!
|u/Bleezy79 - 1 month
|
|Great news, keep it going!!!
|u/spin_kick - 1 month
|
|Go go go!
|u/flexylol - 1 month
|
|The "Kursk" airfield....
|u/MarchEmbarrassed353 - 1 month
|
|Let’s gooooooooo!!
|u/andyboooy - 1 month
|
|Let them taste their own medicine
|u/hutuka - 1 month
|
|Everybody likes that. Well except maybe Pu Pu.
|u/Retired852 - 1 month
|
|Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 Long live President Zelensky 🇺🇦 Russia go f@#$
|yourselves
|u/DeadbeatJohnson - 1 month
|
|Slava Ukrani!
|u/nhalas - 1 month
|
|Seriously, what is going on up there
|u/GNRreunion2016 - 1 month
|
|That’s a significant move. Hitting multiple airbases is a bold
|statement. Curious to see how Russia will respond."
|u/FranksGun - 1 month
|
|Almost seems too good to be true. Fuck Russia
|u/Renekin - 1 month
|
|So we are talking about quite an achievement here. I am interested how
|Russia will react until driven into a corner. Will they try to get a
|piece treaty? Will they fight to the death? Like, will the Kremlin Crew
|actually try to nuke something in retaliation in the hopes of a "if we
|go down we are taking you with us". Or will one of Vlads international
|"friends" step in to help so the war gets dragged into winter to buy
|Russia time?
|u/AdorableStrawberry93 - 1 month
|
|Slava Ukraini
|u/BubsyFanboy - 1 month
|
|Are we about to see the frontline finally move besides just Kursk?
|u/Bubbachew8 - 1 month
|
|Gonna be funny in the end when we gotta update all maps and Russia just
|says Ukraine
|u/luffy_mib - 1 month
|
|Unlikely since Japan & Germany are intact. However, Russian will be
|mocked in movies, games and all kinds of media for decades to come.
|u/thatguyjay76 - 1 month
|
|Russia? You mean east Ukraine?
|u/SummerDaemon - 1 month
|
|lol
|u/MaxineTacoQueen - 1 month
|
|Hes rapidly decaying right in front of our eyes. He's not gonna make it
|to the election, he'll be dead or in full dementia by then. Lil' bitch
|can't even stand up fully or walk in a straight line any more. We do
|need to keep out the party that boosted him, but they're not as fully
|pro-russia as he was any more.
|u/Superb-Wish-1335 - 1 month
|
|Get some!!
|u/MYDOGSMOKES5MEODMT - 1 month
|
|.... (twiddles fingers) ..good....good
|u/gordomillones - 1 month
|
|Let's go Ukraine you got this!!
|u/Virtual-Pension-991 - 1 month
|
|Seems Kursk opened up air space. Just wonder how long they can keep
|this up
|u/hamiwin - 1 month
|
|More to go!
|u/crapshooter_on_swct - 1 month
|
|I wonder how much can they get for “missile naming rights” via auction.
|u/VirusWithShoesGuy - 1 month
|
|Fucking URAA
|u/Full-Penguin - 1 month
|
|>Earlier the same day, Russia claimed it had downed over 110 Ukrainian
|drones in a massive strike, with local Telegram channels reporting
|explosions at the Savasleyka, Borisoglebsk, and Voronezh's Baltimore
|airbases. As a Baltimore (Maryland) Resident, I was pretty confused as
|to how Russia ended up with a Baltimore Airbase. Apparently the Calverts
|(Lords Baltimore) all spent time touring around the Baltic States and
|St. Petersburg (unconnected to the Baltimore namesake)
|u/Zoltair - 1 month
|
|Yea!
|u/fuckredddit70 - 1 month
|
|Good work. Now don't stop until you hold their entire country as your
|own property....
|u/Emperior567 - 1 month
|
|Wont be any left at this point
|u/luffy_mib - 1 month
|
|Security really is awful if these Russian airbases even got attacked in
|the first place. Not to mention four locations in a single night.
|u/gbs5009 - 1 month
|
|What were they thinking letting those missiles through the gates?
|u/ExileUmbry - 1 month
|
|Impressive strike by Ukraine—really shows how far their military
|capabilities have come. Hope it brings a shift in the ongoing conflict.
|u/Top-Ambassador-4981 - 1 month
|
|Donated $50 thru the link to Medical Expenses.
|u/RibNizzla - 1 month
|
|fuck ‘em up!
|u/Money_Economy_7275 - 1 month
|
|this will go well...stand by for retal
|u/kqlx - 1 month
|
|never forget the early contributions of st javelin and st bayraktar
|u/TheyCallMeBubbleBoyy - 1 month
|
|Sad that at this point the war won’t end until Putin croaks smh.
|u/agumonkey - 1 month
|
|Just after the Kursk run .. that must sting hard now.
|u/lsp2005 - 1 month
|
|Will the war only end if they attack Moscow? 
|u/ShapeCultural1613 - 1 month
|
|4 is a great start. Keep going.
|u/Gaggamaggot - 1 month
|
|Anyone taking bets on when Putin will admit defeat and surrender?
|u/droopyheadliner - 1 month
|
|Is this the F16s?
|u/DemoEvolved - 1 month
|
|Wow. Did not expect that
|u/SpicyMango92 - 1 month
|
|No sleep til!
|u/Key-Cause-2365 - 1 month
|
|Watch out for money grabbing scammer s
|u/belterjizz - 1 month
|
|But Russians keep on coming. Hope Ukraine has the numbers to staunch
|otherwise west needs to pull up for a WW 3
|u/Great-Macaron-8060 - 29 days
|
|They still a life under suck of Russian 3 tons bomb? The Russians could
|go fast further because Kursk forest full of Ukrainian dead bodies army.
|If Zelensky still has Ukrainians to make a war against Russian
|Empire????
|u/Great-Macaron-8060 - 29 days
|
|Do NOT DONATE. They got reacher and still your money.
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