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The Rape and Murder of a Medic Leads to Nationwide Physician Strike
Across India
(URL) https://time.com/7010419/india-rape-murder-medic-physician-strike/ (https://time.com)
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|u/EphemeralFantasia01 - 1 month
|
|can anyone explain why India has such a big problem with rape?
|u/TribalSoul899 - 1 month
|
|Primarily because it’s a very sexually repressed nation. Indian
|society, parents especially behave like sex doesn’t even exist, yet
|the country has produced 1 BILLION people in less than 70 years lol.
|There is little to no sex education in school. In the last decade,
|there has been an internet revolution in India where almost every tom,
|dick and harry has access to the high speed web, despite lacking basic
|education. Not surprising that Indians consume the highest amount of
|porn in the world. Public internet in some parts of India were shut
|down after it was discovered that people use it exclusively for porn.
|MPs in the Indian parliament have been caught watching porn during
|political debates. Several American porn stars have created tailor
|made content for Indian audiences, clearly because of the popularity
|of porn there. Many Bollywood movies of the past have depicted rape
|where a villain rapes a woman to steal her honour. All of this adds to
|the psyche of someone who commits rape. It’s more about power and
|primitive subjugation than sex. India is also a highly corrupt place
|where those with money and power have a free pass to do whatever they
|want. Enforcement of laws is extremely poor, and even in this
|particular case efforts are being made to shield the accused who
|happens to be the son of a politician.
|u/EloquentGoose - 1 month
|
|my reddit feed has so much indian threads and I'm not Indian at all
|and know nor affiliate with Indians. Crazy how once a country gets
|high speed internet they go buckwild and appear everywhere. it's
|like the Turks back in 2010, all of a sudden they were everywhere on
|cam sites with "hummmm yes bb open bobs" lol.
|u/RockstepGuy - 1 month
|
|Tbf there are more than a billion Indians (like almost 1/8 humans
|is Indian), it's understandable that you will find them on the
|regular now that they are getting more people online, if the
|Chinese were connected to the social world web rather than have
|"their own place" you would also see them on the regular, hell,
|even with all the restrictions they have you still can.
|u/Linooney - 1 month
|
|Redditors would not survive contact with the full force of the
|netizens. The Great Firewall isn't to protect them, it's to
|protect you.
|u/ohanse - 1 month
|
|I want to see Chinese shitposting. I have seen the man morph
|into a butterfly. That must be just the *tip* of the iceberg.
|u/WARNING_LongReplies - 1 month
|
|I follow a woman on tiktok who shares Chinese netizen news
|and they're hilarious. Some of it doesn't translate well,
|but what does is great.
|u/BarnabyJones2024 - 1 month
|
|That sounds kind of neat, I don't ticktok much but how do
|I find them?
|u/TinyRick_earth1 - 1 month
|
|It might be @candiselin86 on tiktok
|u/WARNING_LongReplies - 1 month
|
|It is! I couldn't remember her name at the time or I
|would have included it.
|u/monsterru - 1 month
|
|Link plz
|u/TinyRick_earth1 - 1 month
|
|It might be @candiselin86 on tiktok
|u/monsterru - 1 month
|
|Thank you!
|u/Harley_Quin - 1 month
|
|I follow her too! Honestly the content is great and the
|netizens can be pretty funny
|u/IronRakkasan11 - 1 month
|
|Hilarious like….North Korean news?
|u/Worth_Ad2717 - 28 days
|
|Sterotype.. China is basically the same open as other
|places in the world. Yeah there is a firewall, but so
|many people are using VPN which is acquiesced by the
|government. Also you can freely travel to other
|countries as long as you get the visa. So the firewall
|blocks the ones which have anyway no need to access
|foreign websites, while the ones who need to read or do
|business in English can’t be prevented by a simple
|firewall.
|u/Linooney - 1 month
|
|Honestly take everything on our Internet and you can find it
|up to 11 on Chinese internet. I've been diving into
|Weibo/XHS and there's some of the coolest content I've seen
|but also some of the most unhinged, and everything in
|between.
|u/TheDiscordedSnarl - 1 month
|
|Now add furries to the equasion ^(says the furry)
|u/PM_ME_UR_RSA_KEY - 1 month
|
|Check out [this guy's
|channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReHOMJLY03E) if you
|want a taste of Chinese military themed shitposting.
|u/ohanse - 1 month
|
|In addition to just... whatever this is... this also tells
|me about how advanced they are in their generative AI
|capabilities.
|u/DatPorkchop - 1 month
|
|I've hung out with the international students... there're
|things I've seen on xiaohongshu I cannot unsee.
|u/Independent-Mix-5796 - 1 month
|
|Relevant to this, after Pan Zanle won the 100m Freestyle at
|Paris and accused the Australian silver medalist Kyle Chalmers
|of being unsportsmanlike, a shit ton of netizens apparently
|bullied Chalmers (after jumping the Firewall) so hard that
|*both athletes* had to follow-up with clarifying statements to
|calm their fury.
|u/Ph0ton - 1 month
|
|I do find it hilarious to think that it's China's world, we're
|just living in it.
|u/hextreme2007 - 1 month
|
|You forgot there's language barrier for Chinese. Not a problem
|for many Indians.
|u/ThatLinguaGirl - 1 month
|
|I find the mistranslation or broken English of non-native
|speakers quite poetic at times - I've definitely seen netizens
|react in English on Xiaohongshu with a lot of vigor.
|u/Nadamir - 1 month
|
|I love dialectal quirks. Like Indian English has preserved
|a lot of older Englishcisns. Most famously, “do the needful”
|It’s so succinct and clear.
|u/VagusNC - 1 month
|
|“Hence, do the needful.”
|u/FeynmansWitt - 1 month
|
|They would, just like Japanese and South Koreans browse their
|own language websites with the exception of something like
|YouTube which is a global platform. The current great firewall
|is already trivial for netizens to bypass. Most Chinese don't
|try to browse Reddit anymore than Americans seek out content on
|xiaohongshu.  Indians also have their own websites and apps.
|However they actually have English as a primary language. That
|completely changes the dynamics
|u/Background-Silver685 - 1 month
|
|Typical Indian excuse. Millions of Westerners have traveled to
|China over the decades, far more than to India, but has anyone
|ever been raped ， or sexually harassed? Or do you think the CCP
|is threatening them not to tell the truth?
|u/jfy - 1 month
|
|The ccp exercises a high degree of censorship, including on
|pornography and sexually violent speech. Without it I wouldn’t
|be surprised if the Chinese became similarly out of control 
|u/Background-Silver685 - 1 month
|
|The whole of East Asia (including Japan, SK, and Taiwan) has
|extremely high similarities in culture, economy, and crime
|rates and other social problem such as low birth rate. And
|China is the birthplace of East Asian civilization. Japan,
|Taiwai and SK is some China without CCP. So, you can see if
|they have the rape culture like India?
|u/BababooeyHTJ - 1 month
|
|I also feel like India is more similar culturally than most
|Asian countries especially china.
|u/DeepState_Secretary - 1 month
|
|>turks back in 2010 Id say it’s far worse. It’s kind of crazy how
|much the internet has destroyed India’s public image. Before it
|was what? Yoga and Eat, Pray, Love?
|u/Proper_Story_3514 - 1 month
|
|They destroyed their public image themselves online by having a
|backward society with castes for the most part. And having
|horrible environmental standards, trash and shit everywhere. Now
|add all the horrific rape cases which go viral online and you
|got what people mostly see online. I am not saying it is like
|that everywhere in India, but thats what people see.
|u/Tarman-245 - 1 month
|
|I visited India (Chennai) in 2003 when I was a young sailor.
|The sheer amount of rubbish and shit in and around that city
|blew me away. The first time I went over a canal I nearly
|vomited from the smell. The tuktuk driver took us to the
|beach and was so proud to say it was “one of the best beaches
|in the world” and it looked like a rubbish dump with mountains
|of refuse. Our ship had to clean out it’s RO plants because
|the potable water they took one was full of lead and several
|crew members got lead poisoning. Never again.
|u/kdeff - 1 month
|
|India portrays itself as a nearly-developed nation close
|behind the US and Western Europe. My parents emigrated from
|India to the US 40 years ago. Their friends back in India
|are so convinced that India is the same as the US
|economically and quality of life. Open sewers, sidewalks
|with gaping holes in them (holes - not cracks), dirt and
|debris everywhere. Street view often looks like a warzone;
|with debris and construction waste just permanently shoveled
|into a corner. They'll build a very upscale office or
|apartment building that is on par with the rest of the world
|- but as soon as you step outside there is cow shit, burning
|garbage, and unpaved roads. Its not to say India has not
|come a long way, but there is still a very different
|standard of living there; and maybe the . Chennai isnt even
|one of the worse cities.
|u/twistytit - 1 month
|
|as horrible as it was for china and would be with india,
|it feels like some sort of aggressive cultural revolution
|is in order, with special emphasis on order, hygiene and
|mutual respect
|u/Electromotivation - 1 month
|
|I don’t think that was the kind of cultural revolution
|China had…. …though if we are ideating about such
|things, I was thinking about how here in the US we need
|such a large scale movement to return to a near
|religious level of reverence for truth. Politics has
|jumped the shark entirely now and it seems like one of
|the few ways to fix it is to figure out how to get
|to/get back to a point where if you are caught lying to
|the people and proven to be lying to the people….you are
|basically done as a politician. Doesn’t matter which
|side you are on that needs to be seen as a dire
|transgression, not something to do three times in a
|single tweet. And that is massively off topic but when I
|think about types of “cultural revolution” we might need
|in the states, it does come to mind.
|u/twistytit - 1 month
|
|i’m saying, there needs to be a concerted move with an
|internal energy to overhaul the culture and attitudes.
|a lot can remain of course, but there are deep issues
|that are in conflict with modernity
|u/gracecee - 1 month
|
|Also they tried to bring the caste crap here in the states.
|Google and a lot of the tech companies were guilty of caste
|discrimination where hiring managers who happened to be Indian
|weren’t going to hire people Of lower caste (Dalit). Every
|Indian I’ve met kept telling me they’re from the Brahmin
|caste. I roll my eyes. My husband is part Indian and knowing
|his family they were the poor catholic kind. That lovely Hindu
|temple in NJ was made with slave labor from forced Dalit
|workers who had their passports taken from them. The builders
|said they were volunteers supporting the temple.
|u/EJDsfRichmond415 - 1 month
|
|Here in the Bay Area there was a county proposition to
|explicitly ban caste discrimination in the workplace. There
|was a huge backlash against the campaign by Indians saying
|that it was racist to even propose a ban because saying that
|it is a problem is racist in and of itself. Or something. So
|backwards. I believe it passed.
|u/DeepState_Secretary - 1 month
|
|>they’re from Brahmin caste. Someone should kindly remind
|them then that they were born to read holy texts, run
|temples and officiate ceremonies and live off of donations
|and gifts only. Not to manage companies, properties or
|wealth. Since they care so much about making sure everyone
|knows their place and all.
|u/ohanse - 1 month
|
|Money is their god now. Business summaries are their holy
|texts. The open office plan is the temple. Bonuses are the
|donations and gifts for their service. All hail money.
|u/mohicansgonnagetya - 1 month
|
|Brahmin were/are academics and Generals too.
|u/LoudAd6879 - 1 month
|
|Like Other Tribes from India
|u/KaleBandit - 1 month
|
|That's very prevalent here in Canada.
|u/Benti86 - 1 month
|
|In my last job I worked with the company's Canada Branch
|monthly. The upper level finance manager was Indian and
|I swear almost everyone I interacted with who worked under
|him was Indian. If someone left, they got replaced by an
|Indian the vast majority of the time. I don't want to be
|that guy and I know Canada has a large Indian population,
|but when some of the people working there didn't even know
|basic accounting/finance principles it caused me a lot of
|anger/stress and was super suspicious. Hell even my
|current company has roots in Canada and I've dealt with a
|lot of Indian people there, but nowhere near as
|widespread.
|u/eescorpius - 26 days
|
|I also don't want to be that person, but everytime I
|have been harassed verbally on the taxi it's by the same
|group of people. I am an immigrant myself but I hate
|that some immigrants bring their misogynistic culture
|with them to Canada.
|u/Electromotivation - 1 month
|
|Seems like it would be very difficult for companies to
|deal with as well. Doesn’t matter what your hiring
|practices are, if one hiring manager decides to
|discriminate according to the caste system, the headline
|will still look really bad if/when found out. I guess the
|very same thing applies to having racist or sexist hiring
|managers so maybe there have long existed overlapping
|checks and balances to protect from this happening…but it
|still seems like something that would be difficult to
|eradicate completely.
|u/EmbarrassedRegret945 - 1 month
|
|Thank you for bringing this to light. Caste system is just
|like racism just instead of color here they identify the
|victim by there surnames They won’t marry into other caste
|as according to them it will spoil there bloodline. In
|early days lower caste people were not allowed to eat from
|the same zone, restricted to visit temples, restricted to
|drink water from the lake or water pools, even the shadow
|was like big no, even the sweat was allowed to fall onto the
|ground as according to them it will spoil the land etc
|There is whole book written on this, do read and even
|mentioned on Wikipedia.
|u/TeslaCoiledSerpent - 1 month
|
|You know that lawsuit was thrown out right? Sigh redditors
|and their cringe echo chambers fitting their own biases and
|misconceptions.
|u/gracecee - 1 month
|
|Which one? The Hindu temple? Why is it not believable that
|forced labor went into building like that temple? Dubai,
|the Qatar stadiums- were built on slave labor. We
|shouldn’t kid ourselves. There were several lawsuits.
|Here is where the FBI raided two houses where the workers
|were locked up. There were doors screwed shut, levels of
|carbon monoxide at dangerous levels Due to a
|malfunctioning water heater. Planks of wood screwed on
|doors so the women couldn’t leave. One small room had
|more than a dozen cots. “According to their court
|filings, the workers said upon arrival to the U.S., BAPS
|representatives allegedly confiscated their passports and
|visas, even before they had left the airport. While they
|were told they would be working four to seven hours per
|day and work 20 to 25 days per month, instead they worked
|from 6:30 a.m. — when a siren would awaken them from “the
|crowded trailers” they slept in — until 7:30 p.m., seven
|days a week. The workers could go up to 40 days straight
|without a day off, according to the lawsuit. They were
|paid approximately 31,000 to 35,000 rupees a month, or
|about $425 to $450. Of that total pay, approximately $50
|would be paid to them in cash and the rest was credited to
|their bank accounts in India once a month “so they would
|not have the financial means to escape their forced
|labor,” the complaint said. Infractions of work rules
|would result in their pay being docked by supervisors, the
|lawsuit alleged. One worker, Mohan Lal, allegedly “died
|while he was subjected to forced labor at the temple,”
|according to the lawsuit, which said at least three other
|former BAPS workers died in India shortly after leaving
|the United States.“ https://www.robbinsville-
|twp.org/news_detail_T2_R626.php
|https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/21/nyregion/nj-hindu-templ
|e.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DE4.sdkQ.3KA78PmkPVLM&smid=
|nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb
|https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1267041
|u/TeslaCoiledSerpent - 1 month
|
|I am not familiar with the temple case, I was
|specifically referring to the caste discrimination case
|which was thrown out.
|u/kdeff - 1 month
|
|And scam callers...
|u/TheDiscordedSnarl - 1 month
|
|I thought they finally outlawed the castes?
|u/Proper_Story_3514 - 1 month
|
|They can outlaw as much shit as they want, doesnt matter
|when the society still uses it anyway.
|u/DangerousCyclone - 1 month
|
|Caste is more like race in America, the official government
|stance is against caste-discrimination and that is the normal
|opinion there, it's not like you could go around yelling about
|how Dalits suck anymore than you could go out and rant about
|black people. That of course doesn't mean the discrimination
|doesn't exist however. I would argue that there is a bit of
|confirmation bias online, people have certain stereotypes
|about a country and stories which reinforce those stereotypes
|are brought to the front, even when the reality is usually
|more nuanced. Like they can give that nuance to their own
|country and recognize their society is more complex than a few
|stereotypes, but they don't try this for others.
|u/sriracha_cucaracha - 1 month
|
|>It’s kind of crazy how much the internet has destroyed India’s
|public image. Pls, like the Indian tech industry hasn't
|destroyed it back in the 2000s til now
|u/RuneHill_Games - 1 month
|
|I would suspect it's also because Canada now has a maaaaasive
|Indian population as well, so more North American focused ads may
|cater to them.
|u/DeviantDragon - 1 month
|
|1.8M in Canada as of 2021 which is only 3.7% of the country and
|only the third largest population of those with Asian origin
|behind Chinese and Filipino. There are 4.9M Indians in the US
|for comparison (1.35% of overall pop). Not sure that Canada
|alone is moving the needle for continent-wide trends.
|u/Javaddict - 1 month
|
|2021, so we can safely triple this number.
|u/Zellyk - 1 month
|
|Yeah in Montreal it feels like the amount of indian tripled
|since covid.
|u/AccomplishedCell3784 - 28 days
|
|Yeah, I read on other subreddits here in Canada that the
|international student issues and fake LMIAs are rampant and
|you can also visit canada_sub or canadahousing2 where these
|people share bedrooms (it’s like 3-5 of them in 1 bedroom)
|and they’re violating the fire code.
|u/Javaddict - 28 days
|
|I worked with a guy from India who was renting a 4 bed
|with twenty people. *Twenty*. I asked why he didn't
|complain about his landlady to BC housing and he said
|because he couldn't find a place anywhere.
|u/RuneHill_Games - 1 month
|
|Using 2021 data is very outdated already with our governments
|sprint to try and stop a recession by importing people.
|[Indian immigration to canada is some of the
|highest](https://www.immigration.ca/indian-immigration-to-
|canada-surges-326-in-a-decade/) and continuing to climb,
|including the [overall massive increase in people coming
|in.](https://www.nbc.ca/content/dam/bnc/taux-analyses/analyse-
|eco/hot-charts/hot-charts-240515.pdf) We have [entire cities
|where the majority are not only immigrants, but from
|specifically india](https://geohub.brampton.ca/pages/profile-
|diversity). This *of course* can and will get notice from
|advertisers, even if the overall population is 'small'
|currently. All of that isn't even considering the literal
|hundreds of thousands of students entering the workforce
|through being a student (increase of 183% indian enrollment in
|canada vs a 13% decrease in USA) Not saying it is the
|reason 100%, but a smart marketer would see these massive
|multiple hundred-percent increases in population and would
|take note. [Even some of the most popular songs for YouTubes
|'top 100 Canada' playlist are Indian
|songs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7bQwwqW-
|Hc&list=PL4fGSI1pDJn57Q7WbODbmXjyjgXi0BTyD)
|u/VagusNC - 1 month
|
|Just sharing some anecdotes but in and near the RTP area of
|North Carolina there are entire communities of Indians. And
|much of the surrounding service industry has adapted to meet
|the demand. In the last census I believe 36% of the
|population in Morrisville was Indian.
|u/RuneHill_Games - 1 month
|
|I believe it. Hell, in Canada unemployment continues to
|rise every month yet we are bringing in (if you include
|students which you should, since in my experience most are
|here not to study but to work and get PR) literally
|hundreds of thousands. Normally, this wouldnt be too
|crazy since we have a lot of land... but we also havn't
|built basically any new schools, hospitals, or other
|critical infrastructure to support the newcomers. [Even
|the UN has basically said we are using
|slaves](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/un-special-
|rapporteur-migrant-worker-program-modern-form-of-
|slavery-1.6958592) and there are no real plans to stop
|(Thanks corporate overlords!)
|u/AccomplishedCell3784 - 28 days
|
|Yes, as of 2024, India ranks as the #1 most number of
|immigrants here jn Canada and I think China or Philippines
|is second.
|u/Dracko705 - 1 month
|
|Good effort and it's not your fault because I assume 2021 is
|the most recent data, but you'd probably be able to safely
|double that if you include today's estimates
|u/morpheousmarty - 1 month
|
|Might we be inverting cause and effect? It stands to reason that
|all this was going on before and once they got internet they not
|only get to see the world but the world gets to see them.
|u/valekelly - 1 month
|
|I swear it feels like I’m playing wack a mole muting Indian subs.
|There are so many they started taking over my feed and there seems
|to be more and more everyday.
|u/Abigail716 - 1 month
|
|I am hypersocial and Love talking to people so I allow people to
|send me messages on Reddit chat, even my profile bio says it's
|fine if people do that. I get quite a few chat requests, at peak
|about 5 a week if I'm active on here and on certain subreddits.
|About 80% are from Indians. Less than 10% are from Americans. Of
|the Indians that message me, more than half, maybe about 75%. Want
|something sexual out of it and are very forward about it. Usually
|just wanting me to sext with them. Something I definitely do not
|solicit at all or imply that it could be an option. Anybody who
|goes through my bio quickly realizes I am married. Get multiple
|times a week I get an Indian guy messaging me hoping to trade
|nudes or to sext with him.
|u/JunahCg - 1 month
|
|Well I mean that's only logical, they're a massive nation and
|English is one of the official languages. The idea that they have
|a large internet footprint, or that it bumps into yours, is not
|crazy in the slightest
|u/EmergencyHorror4792 - 1 month
|
|Dude I clicked one thread from askindian women once and now I get
|all of the Indian main subs lol
|u/Thegreatbrainrobbery - 1 month
|
|I'm confused Reddit now serves you what you clicked on once? I'm
|on the old Reddit layout, is this something specifically with
|the new layout?
|u/EmergencyHorror4792 - 1 month
|
|I mostly use the app so it often has recommendations and
|before you know it you've clicked into yet another Indian sub
|thread and reinforce the algo, to be fair some of them are
|quite interesting but I can't read most of the comments 😅
|u/Thegreatbrainrobbery - 1 month
|
|I use Reddit is fun on mobile, I haven't used the official
|app. Classic view, it's great.
|u/EmergencyHorror4792 - 1 month
|
|Wait how have you managed that? I thought they shut down
|in 2023 after Reddit made the API changes
|u/Thegreatbrainrobbery - 1 month
|
|Revanced. There are caveats, 1) It's on Android only 2)
|You have to use the last version of Reddit is fun that
|was released 3) In order to use an account log in is a
|bit finicky tbh. Check out of the Revanced subreddit for
|guidance. I use it for youtube to get no ads on mobile
|as well.
|u/EmergencyHorror4792 - 1 month
|
|Thank you! I think I have the last rif apk in my old
|downloads lol I'll check this out :)
|u/Trollimperator - 1 month
|
|India has likely the biggest industry of english speaking "spam
|bots" in human form. Id say when it comes to botlike spam, its
|half bots, half indian karma farming.
|u/TookEverything - 1 month
|
|Every spam phone call I receive is an Indian person o the other
|end. No “Steven” I don’t owe your company anything.
|u/tensei-coffee - 1 month
|
|at this point india could have its very own india specific reddit!
|PLS make it happen. they totally deserve having their own reddit. 
|u/cathbadh - 1 month
|
|> it's like the Turks back in 2010, So much this, complete with
|the extreme nationalism and everything.
|u/Informal_Insect24 - 1 month
|
|The other issue is straight up sexism. There was a gang of men who
|went around raping and murdering women who had jobs or owned their
|own businesses. There was also the case where a group of Indian men
|who were strangers on a bus saw a woman and collectively decided to
|gang rape her then stab her through the stomach with a steel pole.
|u/Frequently_Dizzy - 1 month
|
|Yeah… blaming the issue on porn really isn’t getting to the root
|of the problem.
|u/changhyun - 1 month
|
|One of the men who did it even blamed her for fighting back, and
|said the reason they tortured and beat her so badly (then threw
|her from a moving bus) was because "she shouldn't fight back.
|She should just be silent and allow the rape". She left bite
|and scratch marks all over all of them. That's why she was
|nicknamed Nirbhaya ("fearless") before her family allowed her
|name to be published. Rest in peace, Jyoti Singh.
|u/Ruru_fs - 1 month
|
|I once encountered an Indian male on Twitter/X, and it was
|definitely the most extreme case of sexist view I've ever come
|across in my life. He outright stated that he doesn't believe
|women are humans, among other things that I prefer not to disclose
|for the sake of others who might read this. Reading his replies
|to me felt like a culture shock. I couldn't believe that someone
|could hold such vile beliefs. It made me wonder—if many men in
|India think like that, just how difficult must life be for women
|and girls there?
|u/Informal_Insect24 - 1 month
|
|Well if they don't abort them, occasionally they will drown them
|in boiling milk as babies, suffocate them in plastic bags, cut
|their heads off, if the woman gives birth to baby girls she is a
|risk of being beaten, set on fire, etc. Fathers can just sell
|their daughters off as sexual slaves or for organ harvesting.
|People think I make this up but I watched it from interviews
|from women who survived "honour" killings. Another can of
|worms, are the honour killings because even if the women survive
|or escape they're still at risk of being honour killed by
|someone of their culture, because they believe it's a duty to
|complete it regardless the context.
|u/WaynneGretzky - 1 month
|
|Easy accessible internet has been the doom of this country add to
|that the dirt cheap smartphones available. On one hand, people in
|this country hold pride in the fact that india has the cheapest
|internet services but on the other, India lacks education immensely.
|To put in context, The main suspect in the case was married 4
|times. The first 3 wives left him citing physical dominance, abuse
|and violence. 4th one died of cancer. His confiscated phone had tons
|of videos and history of pornographic content majorly catergorised
|as "voilent" porn.
|u/ntrunner - 1 month
|
|>Easy accessible internet has been the doom of this country add to
|that the dirt cheap smartphones available What a disgustingly
|tone-deaf comment. Cheap internet in India has literally spun off
|its own industrial revolution and contributed massively to its
|economy. We have ecommerce, fintech, cashfree payments, maps
|navigation, online governance, remote working.. and that's just
|scratching the surface. The entire digital revolution and startup
|ecosystem of India runs because of cheap internet. I do agree
|that a few wrong people have been exploiting it for wrong reasons
|- pervs on the internet, porn consumers, and people like you who
|can't think one second beyond your first thought.
|u/cyanotrix - 1 month
|
|Couldn't have put it better myself. It's not just sex education.
|It's education. Literacy is extremely low for a population of 1.4Bn
|and most literates in India are not educated. We have a term for
|them "literate but uneducated". There's a severe and extreme lack of
|morality and human decency. When the keyboard warriors start typing
|furiously on how low the per capita rape numbers are you know we
|have failed as a society. Population, corruption and pigs without
|education. This is India. I'm extremely sad to be describing it this
|way today. But the buck needs to stop somewhere.
|u/tristanjones - 1 month
|
|I'd focus on the social sexism, classism, and corruption before
|internet porn. If the internet is responsible for anything it is
|us knowing about the rape, more than any rape itself. We are
|talking about a country with arranged marriages, the prioritizes men
|over woman in all cases, where people of a lower caste are viewed as
|dirt, or of another religion viewed as worthy of death.  America
|had a rape culture without the internet. India is no different, just
|far more exacerbated by its realities. 
|u/Trollimperator - 1 month
|
|TL,DR: India is just behind the curve of social development.
|u/Quantinnuum - 1 month
|
|The gap from sexual repression to rape/sexual assault is a CHASM.
|Going from being told not to engage in sex, to physically
|brutalizing someone sexually… Care to elaborate a little more
|here,
|u/aishikpanja - 1 month
|
|It's not true to blame everything on porn. Americans, Europeans,
|Japanese also consume a lot of porn. They don't go around gang
|raping women and animals. It's mostly the first part - india are an
|extremely sexually repressed society
|u/Blaueveilchen - 1 month
|
|Porn sites don't help here to solve India's extremely sexually
|repressed society.
|u/mirvnillith - 1 month
|
|Rape is never about sex
|u/tholovar - 1 month
|
|I watch a lot of KDramas and CDramas and branched out to try Thai
|Dramas at one stage but quickly retreated as I discovered that rape
|in Thai dramas tended to be treated as a "seduction technique" by
|the protagonist as he seduces the female lead. Is it the same in
|Indian dramas? (I have not really watched a lot of Indian
|movies/TV).
|u/pk_12345 - 1 month
|
|It has changed these days but the movies in the 80s, 90s often had
|this concept of the male lead subjugating female lead by slapping,
|raping or marrying her forcefully. The typical theme would be the
|female wears western clothing in the first half, act bossy and
|insult the male in some way, the male assaults her in some way
|(ranging from slapping her to raping her) and deliver a few
|punchlines about how a women should behave in a society and the
|second half would have the female wearing traditional Indian
|clothes, fall in love and be an obedient wife cooking and cleaning
|for her husband and his family. 
|u/DesiOtakuu - 1 month
|
|Those days, it was predominantly males who used to visit
|theatres. The stuff mostly catered to the working class; it was
|crass, vulgar and full of sexual innoundous. It all changed
|when multiplexes came into picture and women started going into
|the theatres.
|u/waxym - 1 month
|
|Do you know where this cultural repression of sexuality stems from?
|E.g. in the West we have (Puritanical) Christianity to point to, but
|when and where does this repression come from in Indian culture?
|Hinduism and ancient Indian art does not, on the surface at least,
|seem to regard sex as something to be hidden away.
|u/tipdrill541 - 1 month
|
|A basic Google search disputes everything you're saying
|u/DesiOtakuu - 1 month
|
|India was under Muslim rule for almost 800 years, so it underwent
|major sexual repression. Which is why a lot of medieval Hindu
|texts sound repressive and anti female. British rule and its
|accompanying Victorian morals exacerbated it. At the time of
|independence, child marriage was rampant. Girls hardly used to
|step out of their homes. My great grandmother studied till 10th
|grade, and she was only one in the district to do so. Yet, she
|chose not to work even when our family fell into hard times for
|the fear of societal backlash. It was a slow progress from there.
|u/ntrunner - 1 month
|
|There seems to be a correlation that the poorer (in terms of money
|and material) a society is, the more regressive it gets. India has
|an EXTREME number of poor people.
|u/coldsteelmike - 1 month
|
|HITH is the culture that produced the Kama Sutra, today
|considered‘sexually repressed’?! 🤯
|u/Apart_Waltz7205 - 1 month
|
|I know your small brain wouldn't comprehend this but there is a
|comment by u/desiotakuu: India was under Muslim rule for almost
|800 years, so it underwent major sexual repression. Which is why a
|lot of medieval Hindu texts sound repressive and anti female.
|British rule and its accompanying Victorian morals exacerbated it.
|At the time of independence, child marriage was rampant. Girls
|hardly used to step out of their homes. My great grandmother
|studied till 10th grade, and she was only one in the district to
|do so. Yet, she chose not to work even when our family fell into
|hard times for the fear of societal backlash. It was a slow
|progress from there. - Hope it clarifies it for you ❤️ we didn't
|make kama sutra, Indians who didn't face all this bs above did.
|The society has changed, if you want to take sm pride in thier
|work, work with us and let's make it a better society and live up
|to our ancestors.
|u/NaughtyAmbivert - 1 month
|
|🤯🤌 I'm from India bruv you explained it fucking well!!! 🎖️🎖️🎖️
|u/emckillen - 1 month
|
|thanks but the only part of that that was convincing was the
|“bollywood movies of the post depicted rapes as a way to steal
|honour” and maybe the part about corruption and poverty. sexual
|repression does not explain rape. amish and orthodox jews and other
|similarly sexually repressed group ain’t famous for rape. has to be
|something else going on.
|u/aphantombeing - 1 month
|
|India also was supposedely largest fart bottle buyer from a women
|u/volinaa - 1 month
|
|how do you even skip the bad male-female ratio especially in a
|country were female babies got “disposed“ after birth which is
|probably still happening. not every dude will be able to find a
|girl https://m.statisticstimes.com/demographics/country/india-sex-
|ratio.php
|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_infanticide_in_India
|u/twistytit - 1 month
|
|to add, there’s a caste system creating impassable societal
|barriers, extreme poverty and an attitude that having servants and
|treating them poorly is a mark of status
|u/Consent-Forms - 1 month
|
|Can you estimate how much sex was involved in creating 1 billion
|people? One of these days I expect this question to be asked
|during a management consultant interview.
|u/ajatshatru - 1 month
|
|I don't think porn is the cause.
|u/brasstext - 1 month
|
|Saying they are corrupt because the rich get a free pass I think is
|a wrong lense to put it through. While your right that that is
|corrupt, it’s not actually corrupt over there. Their religious
|caste system is so baked into their social, cultural and economic
|systems that it’s expected by everyone to treat the lesser off
|terribly. If your poor, disfigured, or some other unfortunate
|circumstance then in their culture it’s karma, it’s a past life,
|it’s a terrible evil that you created in the past which has now
|caught up to you. It works both ways, if your rich and powerful it
|because you’ve done so much good, it’s your karma coming back to
|you. Absolute Bull shit society, great architecture, art,
|geography, history, but their social culture is beyond the pale.
|u/lordnacho666 - 1 month
|
|What does custom Indian porn mean? Asking for a friend. Give me
|some search terms to avoid.
|u/besse - 1 month
|
|Honestly, I feel like there is an unhealthy amount of cultural
|orthodoxy and sexual repression, which includes: - complete lack of
|sex education. - cultural tendency to treat women as objects. Any
|agency by women can be seen as very problematic. - severe lack of
|normal human interaction between boys and girls, men and women, in
|many circles, from childhood. - severe lack of outlet for *any* normal
|sexual activity. - consequently, glorification of “conquests” by
|others, whether they actually happened or not. Combine the above,
|and now, in a repressed, orthodox society, women are to be (a) wrapped
|in bubble wrap, “protected” and worshipped if they are your mother or
|sister, or (b) married off to be someone else’s responsibility, have
|babies and manage the household, or (c) objects to be conquered. It
|is not unusual for parents / families of adult, working women to ask
|them to “be back before X pm” because “girls from good families don’t
|roam around late at night”. There is always talk of better laws, and
|better laws will remove criminals from society after a tragedy has
|occurred, but a cultural shift is needed to reduce the tragedies in
|the first place. Edit: after posting this, I came across this post,
|with an advisory for women doctors and staff at a different hospital.
|Note the warning about not going out at night or in poorly lit areas,
|etc. Note also that there is no advisory about male colleagues to have
|a look out for their colleagues; the onus is fully on the women.
|https://www.reddit.com/r/indianews/s/0rJ7Mr6iFF
|u/Worth_Ad2717 - 28 days
|
|Can’t agree more. These brutal men are just beast with primitive
|urge. It is a culture and education issue which is sadly extremely
|difficult to be changed.
|u/PastTomorrows - 1 month
|
|It's actually very simple: culture and modern medicine. Indian
|tradition dictates that girls are a cost. You feed them, clothe them.
|Then you pay dowry when they get married, and then they join the
|husband's household. When you grow old, your sons' household take care
|of you. Your daughters are taking care of the in-laws. Might as well
|set money on fire. Modern medicine means that it's easy to know the
|sex of an unborn child, and that you can easily get a safe abortion.
|Guess what happens when you mix the two?
|[That](https://www.populationpyramid.net/india/2020/). Notice the
|imbalance? That .4/.3 points excess in men, that's 20 _million_ men
|between the age of 20 and 39 who have _no hope_ of getting married and
|whose only hope to get some action is rape (or prostitution). And
|obviously that's going to disproportionally affect the poor and
|uneducated. With the consequence that you can readily see. A notable
|side effect of the situation is that more and more girls are marrying
|upcaste, and some families are now expecting the dowry to go the other
|way. Both of which are a big cultural shift.
|u/solomons-mom - 1 month
|
|In 1990, Amartya Sen wrote "More Than 100 Million Women Are Missing"
|His observation and analyses of the adult sex ratios and what should
|be the adult sex ratios are now so mainstream that he is not
|credited as often as he should be. He was awarded the Nobel prize
|for Economics 1998, but not for that work alone.
|https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/economic-sciences/1998/sen/facts/
|u/zeruch - 1 month
|
|"A notable side effect of the situation is that more and more girls
|are marrying upcaste, and some families are now expecting the dowry
|to go the other way. Both of which are a big cultural shift." Is
|there any decent academic literature on this trend? I heard this
|claimed anecdotally a few times in the last few years and it does
|seem like a radical shift.
|u/ntrunner - 1 month
|
|India is not monolithic, and all marriage negotiations are
|situational. Trying to find a trend is meaningless.
|u/tipdrill541 - 1 month
|
|> whose only hope to get some action is rape (or prostitution) Or
|brothers marrying the same wife.
|u/Little_Drive_6042 - 1 month
|
|Honor system thing. Rape is looked down upon and the rapist isn’t bad
|for raping. The victim is bad for getting raped. Rape and SA laws in
|India are very different from rape and SA in countries like America.
|America enforces said laws and law enforcement aren’t bribed into
|corruption. Indian law enforcement can easily be taken off your hook
|if you hand them $20 (1600 rupees). In America, if you touch or grope
|someone against their will, it will be considered SA. In India, that’s
|not considered SA. Rape and SA in India is mainly penetration. (I
|don’t even believe forced penetration for men counts as rape, sad). So
|a lot of the times, women get groped or touched and it gets a blind
|notice. People also do not report it because 1. It doesn’t lead to
|anything 2. The victims honor is gone so that’s bad if anyone found
|out because that’s shame on the family and no marriage. 3. The police
|will sometimes shoo you off since it’s hard to catch people. Only if
|it gets a lot of attention on the media (usually with a foreigner) is
|when police want to become Batman and find the person in days. Or
|else, rarely happens. Source: I’m Punjabi. Punjab is a state in
|northern India.
|u/Tizzy8 - 1 month
|
|All of these things were true of the US when my mother was young.
|The police corruption isn’t as straightforward as bribes but it
|certainly still exists. Things have gotten a lot better in a
|generation or so but we have a long way to go.
|u/Little_Drive_6042 - 1 month
|
|There is corruption everywhere. But it’s not as bad or noticeable.
|In India, law enforcement would even rape their female prisoners.
|That happened a lot during the 80s and 90s when an insurgency
|happened in Punjab. The Indian government launched a military
|operation to kill a Saint who stood up for rights. In the
|aftermath, the Golden Temple (most visited religious place of
|worship) was destroyed. Out of anger from military and police
|abuse, people took up arms against the government and wanted to be
|a separate country. The police were infamous for killing innocent
|boys in the name of “counterterrorism” but in reality did it for
|easy promotions. Civilian estimates put 300K innocent boys that
|were picked up by police and killed. And to lure out “fighters”
|would pick up random moms and sisters and have them raped in jail.
|There was a record set that women went into jail and came out
|pregnant. Indian law enforcement sucks. I guarantee that never
|happened in America or England or Canada.
|u/Bright_Aside_6827 - 1 month
|
|But why
|u/BlitzOrion - 1 month
|
|Sex education doesnt exist in India
|u/DelicateEmbroidery - 1 month
|
|That’s an oversimplification
|u/BlitzOrion - 1 month
|
|I am an Indian and know how it works here
|u/gandalf_sucks - 1 month
|
|I don't think they accused you of being untrue, just
|oversimplifying things. Your statement "Sex education doesnt
|exist in India" is indeed an oversimplification of the
|larger social issues. Not that I'm expecting you to be
|responsible for explaining to the whole world why India has
|social issues. Your statement was true, and the
|oversimplification comment is also true.
|u/Koreanturd - 1 month
|
|Sex education does exist, but not applied to every
|educational institution. Do you think the people from rural
|parts of the country are exposed to better education. Not
|so.
|u/Gloomy_Tangerine3123 - 1 month
|
|YES. This is true
|u/Bright_Aside_6827 - 1 month
|
|How would sex education prevent rape
|u/Kleens_The_Impure - 1 month
|
|Religion, mostly the fact that all major religions are male
|dominated and extremely sexist.
|u/Dense_Treacle_2553 - 1 month
|
|Yep they all spew the whole Women must be subjected to men, and
|that men are the head of household. All this causes is abuse.
|u/kilawolf - 1 month
|
|Lmao nobody said Christian, you assumed it for some reason
|u/Bright_Aside_6827 - 1 month
|
|Religion encourages rape ?
|u/Kleens_The_Impure - 1 month
|
|Some absolutely do it directly, but indirectly they all
|decided that women were men's property (either father, brother
|or husband). These are the consequences.
|u/DelightfulAbsurdity - 1 month
|
|Ever read the Bible? Old Testament is damn riddled with it.
|u/Lehk - 1 month
|
|Redditors blame “religion” for everything, war, disease, their
|father not talking to them, you name it.
|u/Quittingquietly - 1 month
|
|It’s not that Redditors blame religion, it’s that religion
|has actually been used as the excuse for this behavior for
|literal millennia. I cant even think of a religion that is
|innocent when it comes to justifying/condoning some sort of
|atrocity. The Bahai maybe?
|u/godofhorizons - 1 month
|
|Have…have you read literally any religious holy book?
|u/Jonasonero - 1 month
|
|I mean more often than not that is the reason for it
|u/notthepig - 1 month
|
|ya.. i dont think thats ite. unfortunately often men are sexist,
|then they would hide behind religion to justify it. i dont find
|'all major religions to be extremely sexist'.
|u/Kleens_The_Impure - 1 month
|
|Submission of the wife to the husband is a staple in all major
|religions. Some are more unhinged about this than other, and
|the local flavors of religion can tweak that a bit. But it's
|the Big picture. And I agree with your remark, often men are
|just sexists, I'd wager that's why when they wrote the "holy
|Books" (because it's only men who wrote that, not any god)
|they put a lot of sexist shit inside. Religions could have
|been good if they were actually coming from an all powerful
|all knowing being. But it's only flawed men who created them.
|u/Flaky_Air_ - 1 month
|
|Hinduism is better in the gender thing. It has multiple
|goddesses.
|u/colefly - 1 month
|
|It contains the option to be interpreted better But,
|goddesses existing doesn't stop misogny . Just because some
|neck beard worships a real and existing female idol doesn't
|mean he respects women. Just because an Christian sect
|worships Christ doesn't mean they follows the teachings.
|u/Telvin3d - 1 month
|
|Until very recently, western cultures believed 100% the same thing
|u/YouMeAndReneDupree - 1 month
|
|Hell of a statement for 600,000,000 people
|u/neon-god8241 - 1 month
|
|They view it as a punishment for a crime, not a crime.
|u/friendofH20 - 1 month
|
|Like all things its never a single factor. Its a mix of patriarchal
|society + poor law enforcement.
|u/ecstatic_carrot - 1 month
|
|i thought we all lived in a patriarchy, clearly india is far worse.
|Is it more patriarchal, or are other factors like their generally
|repressed attitude toward sex more important?
|u/friendofH20 - 1 month
|
|Rape is very seldom about sex. So while our attitudes on sex need
|improvement, it's not the main reason. And I'd say most of Asia,
|especially South Asia and the Middle East, has way more
|patriarchical attitudes that the West. A lot of our police force
|openly say that most rape and harassment cases are made up by
|women. That would probably not be true in other countries. I also
|feel like we have more horrific rape cases because in the West
|most assault cases are done by men already known to women. In our
|society - women of your class/community are deemed more "sacred",
|so the tendency to attack women of other communities is higher.
|And those are the kinds of rape that make the news more.
|u/chandy_dandy - 1 month
|
|Western world really isn't a patriarchy anymore. I'd say we
|shifted away from that in the mid 2010s. certainly it's the least
|patriarchal place in the world and has been since the 80s and we
|just keep shifting farther away from the rest of the world, many
|places are actually becoming more patriarchal to be in opposition
|to the western world
|u/Seltzer-Slut - 1 month
|
|I’m not an expert, but I know the anti-rape laws there are centuries
|behind. Women are still subjected to “virginity tests” by doctors.
|Rape survivors are subjected to the “two finger test.” Just one
|example of how broken the system is.
|https://equalitynow.org/resource/sexualviolencesouthasia/
|u/Madwoned - 1 month
|
|There’s plenty wrong with the country but the two finger test has
|been deemed unconstitutional twice by the nation’s leading court and
|any doctor who does it is liable for misconduct in addition to the
|Health Ministry’s guidelines explicitly stating that it shouldn’t be
|done a decade ago. The fact that it’s still done is a cultural and
|social failing rather than a legal one
|u/Seltzer-Slut - 1 month
|
|From what I linked to (A study by an international violence
|prevention organization), the "two finger test" isn't just for
|marriageability. It's used on rape survivors to argue that they
|are "habituated to sex) if their vagina has "too much laxity." If
|they are considered "habituated to sex" then "they had it coming."
|https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/11/invasive-two-finger-test-
|performed-on-sexual-assault-victims-is-misconduct-india-supreme-
|court-rules/
|u/RoughPlatform6945 - 1 month
|
|If you read the Kama Sutra, you'll see that rape is highly
|discouraged in that text. It also encourages women to learn to read,
|and do math, and practice martial arts. I suppose that part of the
|problem in India you'll have pockets of progressivism where women
|get educated and move freely and you'll have pockets of extreme male
|entitlement, combined with weak law enforcement.
|u/DesiOtakuu - 1 month
|
|Those pockets of progressivism were only because the law and order
|is strong in those regions. India suffers from one of the worst
|police to citizen ratios. We are grossly under- policed in rural
|areas, which means they are under the mercy of the local elite and
|gundas. In states like Bengal where poverty and illegal
|immigration is rampant, lawlessness creates extreme scenarios like
|this. The outrage here is partially because the crime happened in
|the midst of a metropolis, and the evidence is being blatantly
|tampered through sheer political power. If a female doctor is not
|safe even here, there is no guarantee she will be safe anywhere
|else, especially in those lawless rural areas where these medical
|students are supposed to intern.
|u/iStayedAtaHolidayInn - 1 month
|
|wtf?! Do they test if they’re witches by throwing them into the
|ocean to see if they float?
|u/Seltzer-Slut - 1 month
|
|Honestly, probably
|u/Monsieur-Jimmy - 1 month
|
|Trad Indians value their sons more highly than daughters, as daughters
|are “given away” to other families at expensive weddings while sons
|continue to add to your family legacy. Parents electing to abort their
|female fetuses has produced a gender imbalance with 1.05-1.1 young
|indian men per every 1 young indian woman - tens of millions of indian
|men *have no female counterpart and will never marry.* While I am pro-
|choice, this is an example of the dark side of abortion that I never
|hear about from other leftists. Others have mentioned porn usage and
|a lack of sex education. Women in Indian movies are often treated as
|objects. Domestic abuse is *absurdly* common in India, as fathers are
|viewed as the leader of the household in a way American trads wish
|they could replicate. India is a lawless country. Those with money
|prosecute those without religiously (if your head isn’t buried in the
|ground, you too will recognize that the castes still exist). There’s
|many more factors, but a large one is a lack of enforcement -
|reporting these crimes doesn’t lead anywhere, as authorities in India
|only function to protect the assets and reputations of those in power.
|Source: I am indian-american with friends and family who have left or
|want to leave India.
|u/Toloran - 1 month
|
|> While I am pro-choice, this is an example of the dark side of
|abortion that I never hear about from other leftists. It never
|gets talked about because 1) If that's a problem, it's not because
|of the availability of abortion; and 2) Even if it was illegal,
|you'd just see more unsafe and illegal abortions or infacide.
|u/thisoldhouseofm - 1 month
|
|Also, the kind of Indians engaging in sex-selective abortions
|certainly aren’t progressives. You don’t see sex-selective
|abortions in countries with healthier rights and status for women.
|u/ComprehensiveSurgery - 1 month
|
|The reasons- 1/ The judiciary is overburdened and takes years to hear
|these kinds of cases. The delay gives the perpetrators sufficient time
|to cover up evidence. This coupled with the fact that the rapists are
|given political patronage (because they are from a specific religion
|or caste or close to some local politician) means that even the most
|high profile cases are rarely bought to justice. No legal
|repercussions boldens rapists. 2/ sexual repression and misogyny. We
|have a population of 1,4 billion people and yet we pretend that the
|act of reproduction or even sexual education is a crime. There is also
|widespread misogyny and stupid ideas (women who are dressed in shorts
|or are outside the house late at night are asking for it ) that fuel
|this. 3/ large unemployment and easy access to pornography.
|u/starwhal3000 - 1 month
|
|Because the rapists are rarely held accountable.
|u/sudthebarbarian - 1 month
|
|Its not only about sexual predation. Its about a power trip. And most
|often its done by politically connected people who cannot be brought
|to justice. Because they are protected by people in power. Feeling
|really hopeless about my country seeing people like these thrive and
|there is ZERO accountability.
|u/raftsa - 1 month
|
|Patriarchy and permissiveness I don’t agree with people saying “lack
|of sex education” - there may not be much of any, but all the
|education isn’t going your way change things when society overall
|still treats women like objects rather than people. The other harsh
|reality is the low chance of being caught and held responsible: women
|being raped and murdered may be the most dramatic headline, but there
|are thousands more that have suffered sexual abuse who either do not
|disclose it or are brave enough to do so but get not justice.
|u/ErictheStone - 1 month
|
|Caste and misogynistic systems reinforce the idea of some people being
|less than yourself. At least, that's the observation from a white guy
|who's dated a few Indian girls over the years.
|u/xeasuperdark - 1 month
|
|Simple unqualified answer with no research done: decades of over
|looking it especially if the victim is of a lower caste status
|u/Yaguajay - 1 month
|
|I read one report about a tribal elder ordering the rape of the
|daughter because the son had pre-marital sex with his (willing)
|girlfriend. Lots of rules and traditions that operate outside the
|legitimate legal system.
|u/Monamo61 - 1 month
|
|Exactly! 75% of the time when I hear of crime in India, rape is
|included in whatever the violence of the day is, or gang rape. Very
|rapey country, which I find abhorrent and disgusting.
|u/TeslaCoiledSerpent - 1 month
|
|So your perception of a country of over a billion people is fueled
|by negative stories on a single subject? You realize even if India
|had no problems by sheer volume of population you would hear these
|stories at a far greater rate than any other country? Here is moral
|outrage and righteous indignation award for you sir 🥇. Only the best
|and brightest on Reddit.
|u/wabblebee - 1 month
|
|> So your perception That's how it works, if all the news you
|hear about India is about people getting raped you will start to
|perceive them as rapey. And I agree, most of the news that make it
|out of that country are about rape, scams or discrimination. The
|last time I heard good news was about them launching their space
|rocket, and then 2 days later the news were that the engineers
|working on it got scammed and the government never paid them. I
|can't remember anything positive since then. edit: look at this
|shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzuRpzSbVNM
|u/Kaguro19 - 1 month
|
|It's one-fifth of all humanity. Everything is scaled.
|u/FawFawtyFaw - 1 month
|
|This can't be it. Where's China's equivalence?
|u/Kaguro19 - 1 month
|
|https://www.statista.com/statistics/1248115/number-of-assault-
|rape-murder-crimes-in-china/ .
|https://www.statista.com/statistics/632493/reported-rape-cases-
|india/ Very similar numbers.
|u/rotoddlescorr - 1 month
|
|The numbers for China are all assault, rape, and murder cases.
|So three types of crimes. The numbers for India are just rape
|cases.
|u/FawFawtyFaw - 1 month
|
|I haven't used the links yet, I will on break. Thx for
|constructive data. All I will ask now, is why does India have
|to differentiate "reported cases". Edit: After spending the
|entire night in the Kolkata rabbit hole from current events,
|anybody defending what's going on over there can fuck right off.
|u/rotoddlescorr - 1 month
|
|The links don't show the same data. The numbers for China are
|for all assault, rape, and murder cases. The data for India
|is rape cases only.
|u/BlitzOrion - 1 month
|
|>reported cases 99% of rape cases go unreported. This data is
|only the cases that police take into consideration
|u/Enlightmone - 1 month
|
|1) 99% really? 2) Wouldn't you say that for all rape cases
|worldwide, meaning it doesn't add much to the conclusion
|u/negzzabhisheK - 1 month
|
|That is a very wild assumption lol , underdeveloped india
|may be But please don't make these type of imaginary
|numbers without sufficient data
|u/BlitzOrion - 1 month
|
|https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/meet-the-journalist-
|documenting-indias-unreported-rape-cases/ > India is
|known as one of the world’s most dangerous places for
|women – with estimates that a woman is raped in the
|country every fifteen minutes. But while reports of rape
|increased by 873% between 1971 and 2011, as many as 99%
|still go unreported.
|u/FawFawtyFaw - 1 month
|
|Man stfu and just let something suck. It fucking
|sucks. Why are you sifting through pig shit trying to
|tell us what's what.
|u/BlitzOrion - 1 month
|
|>( even though we will ignore there is no way of
|knowing without proper research ) Maybe telling your
|paw paw to do proper research will shed the true light
|https://www.livemint.com/Politics/AV3sIKoEBAGZozALMX8T
|HK/99-cases-of-sexual-assaults-go-unreported-govt-
|data-shows.html
|https://www.deccanherald.com/india/10-years-of-
|nirbhaya-conviction-rate-in-crimes-against-women-
|just-265-in-india-1172228.html
|u/Kaguro19 - 1 month
|
|You'll have to ask that to the website owner, won't you?
|Reported holds for every country. Not all rapes get reported.
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|China’s equivalence doesn’t come out of their firewall and when it
|does it gets lost in translation unlike India where English is
|widely used.
|u/liberalparadigm - 1 month
|
|Conservative culture mixing with regular people. Though on the ground,
|the numbers are similar to other countries. The outrage is bigger in
|India.
|u/AffectionateCan1242 - 1 month
|
|India has? You should ask Why world has. These kind of rape cases are
|everywhere now.
|u/Worth_Ad2717 - 28 days
|
|Gang rape and murder in hospital? Never heard such a breaking news
|in western Europe and China 🫢
|u/kitten_rescuer - 1 month
|
|The country is extremely misogynist and men are raised with
|entitlement over women. When they reach adulthood and realise they
|won’t just “get” a bangmaid for nothing they act out. It’s not about
|“sexual repression” but cultural male entitlement. Indian culture is
|very very anti-woman and women are criticised and degraded from birth
|and considered a curse/burden on the family. Source: Indian woman
|trying desperately to get out.
|u/nalithin - 1 month
|
|the literal thumbnail is a male protestor
|u/kitten_rescuer - 1 month
|
|And one male protestor is going to fix the misogyny in this
|country
|u/nalithin - 1 month
|
|Indian culture as whole is not anti-women. That's predominantly
|in a specific area of the country, and a very specific socio-
|economic demographic. "Indian culture is very very anti-woman
|and women are criticised and degraded from birth and considered
|a curse/burden on the family." - this might just be you
|projecting. And wdym one protestor dumbass, there are thousands
|of men on the streets joining in with the protests. Generalising
|is harmful and alienates men who want to help change the country
|as well.
|u/nalithin - 1 month
|
|For example, even accounting for reporting rates, certain
|parts of the South and North East have lower rapes per capita
|than the world average. Are they not parts of India asw? Is it
|fair to group a nation of 1.4 billion into one, just because
|you're annoyed?
|u/spacepie77 - 1 month
|
|Mtf ratio on top of culchuh
|u/EvilShaker - 1 month
|
|When they have 1.5 Billion people I would guess crime is to be
|expected? Most countries have a BIG problem with rape not just India
|u/Humblerewt - 1 month
|
|The urge is too strong to do the needful
|u/Wherethegains - 1 month
|
|Yep seems pretty rapey
|u/dt_vibe - 1 month
|
|Sri Lankan Tamil here, we literally blew up the Indian Prime Minister
|because he sent a battalion of Sikh Rapists. It's happens so much it's
|officially cultural.
|u/Koreanturd - 1 month
|
|Don’t try to mislead the events that your people did. Your people
|are a group of terrorist that functions on the basis of casteism.
|u/iloveeveryone2020 - 1 month
|
|You make it sound like India is worse than Japan, Germany and the
|United States. [https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-
|rankings/rape-statistics-by-
|country](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-
|statistics-by-country) [https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/rape-
|statistics-by-country](https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/rape-
|statistics-by-country) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape\_statistic
|s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics)
|[https://www.usnews.com/news/best-
|countries/articles/2016-10-20/violence-against-women-
|in-5-charts](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-
|countries/articles/2016-10-20/violence-against-women-in-5-charts)
|u/ThePalmtop - 1 month
|
|It literally is. Read the snapshot on the first article as your
|introduction to the topic and why little charts and graphs like the
|ones you link mean very little to the discussion of rape.
|u/iloveeveryone2020 - 1 month
|
|It's very easy to waive away charts and graphs when someone tells
|you something you want to hear.
|u/Individual_Witness_7 - 1 month
|
|They need Jesus
|u/CMDR_Agony_Aunt - 1 month
|
|How would that help? Religious people use religion to justify their
|worst desires. Look at tbe heavily religious in the US as an
|example.
|u/mirracz - 1 month
|
|Why would they need this particular Mexican guy? Is Miguel busy?
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|So they can focus on small kids instead of women?
|u/EggLord2000 - 1 month
|
|Lack of Christian ethics Edit: I’m getting downvoted so I’ll explain.
|There are Christian parts of India (that I am originally from) that
|are significantly better places for women to live. People in the west
|take living in a Christian majority country for granted.
|u/mustardontheb - 1 month
|
|A woman gangraped, a 3.5yo, a 3rd grade girl and this, all within a
|week. India is messed up. The latest updates are that local political
|party's goons attacked the doctors and students protesting, trashed the
|buildings and entered girls hostels. And let me remind you, today is
|India's 78th independence day.
|u/Downtown-Oil-7784 - 1 month
|
|That's only what is talked about too, so it's likely much worse
|u/Black5Raven - 1 month
|
|> it's likely much worse Lets say that only one out of 10 getting
|shown up in news. At least. In best case.
|u/LoudAd6879 - 1 month
|
|Sadly it's just another day. In many cases the victims get silenced.
|Many victims commit suicide
|u/Frsbtime420 - 1 month
|
|That’s India for you. Don’t forget some of them were dismembered!
|u/tinkthank - 1 month
|
|Nothing happened after [Nirbhaya](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012
|_Delhi_gang_rape_and_murder),
|[Unnao](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Unnao_rape_case), [Hathra
|s](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Hathras_gang_rape_and_murder),
|[Kathua](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathua_rape_case) and many
|more. I’m not holding my breath anymore.
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|Change takes time. 20-30 years for this kind of change over this
|large of a pop. Probably more. Remember majority of Indians also
|want rapes to stop.
|u/FugitiveCookie - 1 month
|
|India is celebrating it's 78th independence day today. 77 years
|is more than enough I think. > "Majority of Indians want rape to
|stop" Yeah they pay lip service and talk about how the rapists
|should be hanged without ever questioning why these perpatrators
|were emboldened in the first place
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|Well the war against rape didn’t start 77 years ago and we came
|from “It’s probably her fault to rape is bad” Change is coming
|but it’s slow. When we become parent, make sure we teach them
|not to rape. Whatever your arguments are, I wanna be hopeful for
|1.5 billion people instead of just pointing fingers. Hope is
|what keeps you alive.
|u/FugitiveCookie - 1 month
|
|77 years is enough time to set up a justice system that
|actually delivers justice in a timely manner and a law
|enforcement that can actually be trusted by the victims.
|And no we haven't changed from "It's probably her fault to
|rape is bad". Women are still blamed simply because they dared
|to leave their house. Even now when a rape occurs the
|question asked is "What can women do to protect themselves"
|and not "Why the fuck is our society like this". >Change is
|coming but it’s slow No it's not things are exactly the same
|as they were 2012 if not worse (atleast rapists weren't
|celebrated back then) >When we become parent, make sure we
|teach them not to rape. I doubt most parents of rapists
|taught their kids it's okay to rape someone. Along with
|parents the society at large is responsible as well. >I
|wanna be hopeful for 1.5 bullion people instead of just
|pointing fingers Unless we address the fact that India has a
|massive problem we will not get to fixing it. You can't bury
|your head in sand and wish things get better on it's own.
|Being hopeful will not change shit. Real action is more
|significant than hope
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|“What can woman do to protect themselves” is the immediate
|measure to a rape problem. Immediate measures are put in
|until a solution is found. And solution for a rape problem
|is not a single button click one. It fixing multiple things
|like porn, parenting, general outlook towards a rape victim,
|woman being considered assets, and some people’s mentality
|that rape is the best revenge on a woman. It’s fixing
|multiple leaks in this broken household of ours. Why
|society is like this is a question for understanding
|society. What we are going to do even if we get the answers
|on why society is like this. There is no starting from zero
|again. We always have to work with what we have and fix
|things from there. I don’t think it’s worse than 2012.
|People are actually walking out of their homes and judiciary
|is being involved. There are more reports. People are not
|afraid to report a rape which was the case before 2012.
|People were too afraid of social pressure. Not saying that
|good judiciary system is the solution. Preventing rape in
|the first place is the solution. Parent don’t teach to
|rape but they don’t tell you not to rape either. Many
|mischievous acts go unpunished in Indian households for boys
|while girls are lectured on every single act. Parents don’t
|teach how to rape yet we have this problem. We have
|acknowledged that India has massive problem of rape. I don’t
|know where have you been. You demand real action yet you sit
|here typing on the reddit. I am not mocking you for doing it
|but In a rush to win an argument we often focus on asking a
|lot of questions and complains rather than solutions. If
|you demand action then lead people with a solution to rape.
|Simply asking questions to others on why they aren’t doing
|anything is not gonna work. You complain about people
|providing lip service yet here we are. Doing the same thing
|you complain about My hope is not a blind one. I simply do
|not hope that things will fix on its own. My hope is in the
|work that we as a nation have put in to protect woman. There
|are stricter laws against rape. We banned porn. We legalised
|prostitution. Our bollywood is no more a misogynistic gutter
|like it used to be and so many other changes. But again
|change is slow and we for being merely human do get
|impatient time to time. Which is okay. There will be
|change in this country. So are you gonna stand there and
|keep asking questions or join us in doing what we can do on
|individual level.
|u/FugitiveCookie - 1 month
|
|>We always have to work with what we have and fix things
|from there. >My hope is in the work that we as a nation
|have put in to protect woman I absolutely agree with you
|on these point and do believe Indians need to work
|together to solve the hellhole this country has become for
|women. That being said having gone through your reply I
|believe you are simply naive towards a few ground
|realities (which, hey, even I was at a point in time)
|>“What can woman do to protect themselves” is the
|immediate measure to a rape problem. Immediate measures
|are put in until a solution is found These 'immediate
|measures' are the only questions asked following the news
|of a rape coming out and moreover are just another form of
|victim blaming. Putting the onus on the victim to
|'protect themselves' is implying that the victim just
|living their daily lives was somehow at fault for the
|crime that happened to them. >People are not afraid to
|report a rape which was the case before 2012. People were
|too afraid of social pressure. Not saying that good
|judiciary system is the solution. People are absolutely
|still afraid to report rapes. Women still do not report
|being sexually harassed because they know that the
|'justice system ' will not deliver justice and would only
|further victimize them. There have been multiple cases
|within the past year where women who were victims of
|sexual harassment (rape, molestation etc) went to the cops
|and the cops further traumatized them (including cases
|where the police raped the women too). Women in our
|country do not trust the cops or the law and honestly why
|would we. If the perpatrator is someone who is well
|connected, you're basically double screwed. >Preventing
|rape in the first place is the solution. Actually a good
|justice system would help this point. Most rapists know
|they'll get away with their crime in India. Moreover the
|justice system ignoring minor sexual crimes (molestation,
|eve teasing, revenge porn etc) is what emboldens there
|a**holes to move onto bigger crimes. This is without
|mentioning the repeat offenders. There have been cases of
|men raping dozens of women. If the first woman could have
|trusted the justice system and reported him and then the
|justice system actually did it's job, the number of victim
|would be reduced. There must've been cases where rapists
|actually thought the justice system worked they would've
|never dared to commit their crime. >We have acknowledged
|that India has massive problem of rape. I don’t know where
|have you been. I've been on the internet where I've seen
|Indians time and time again downplay this issue. The same
|old "India has more population so more rape" ignoring the
|fact that most rapes in India are not reported. >There
|are stricter laws against rape. We banned porn. Stricter
|laws against rape do not help if victims are afraid to
|come forward and laws are not enforced even in cases where
|they do come forward. Banning porn is just using a bandaid
|for a gunshot wound. Indians love to blame porn for all
|the issue whereas it is only a part of the problem. We
|have much deeper issues which porn only exacerbated. >In
|a rush to win an argument we often focus on asking a lot
|of questions and complains rather than solutions. >So
|are you gonna stand there and keep asking questions or
|join us in doing what we can do on individual level Not
|sure why you seem convinced that people raising these
|points are just "asking questions" and not genuinely
|trying to solve issues in their own way. I think the
|questions raised should be discussed and a solution found
|for each of them. I do genuinely believe that Indians need
|to stop asking "What women can do stop from being raped"
|because at this point the only answer that will work 100%
|of the time is stop existing. As for solutions here's a
|few: 1. Nation wide campaign to raise awareness about
|consent and women's bodily autonomy. It should definitely
|been taught in school but also similar to campaigns such
|as "Hum 2 hamare 2" so that even the less educated are
|made aware of their rights. 2. Massive reforms to police.
|Truth is that we don't trust the police to protect or help
|us. Even though the laws and procedure have 'changed'. The
|situation is still the same. We need our justice system to
|actually work. 3. All levels of sexual harassment should
|be taken seriously not just rape. This would help prevent
|escalation of any criminals to more serious. 4. Actually
|demanding that our politicians take steps to protect
|women(even from members of their own party and their
|family members). Basically no ballots being given to
|rapists or rape accused. Removal of any rapists from
|political parties and being banned from contesting
|elections. Let's be honest every political party in India
|has rapists as well as protectors of rapists. We need a
|cleanse of these people. (This one I'm 100% sure will not
|be happening)
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|What does a silent number mean. I didn’t deny that there aren’t
|people like this. When I say majority I mean Majority. That’s
|how statistics work. Anyways of course these things are still
|happening but we are in better place than we were in 20 yrs ago.
|For example the Khamp panchayats which were infamous for honour
|killing have disappeared. You will have to look at things from a
|context. You can’t evaluate them on 0,1 basis. Rapes are under
|reported is generic statement. Rapes were under reported 20
|years ago as well. But were these less 20 years ago or more.
|Issues don’t disappear out of thin air when you put a law in. If
|issues disappeared like you want them to we wouldn’t have
|terrorism. Look there will always be offenders. Peace can be
|achieved when there are more defenders than offenders. Today
|there are more people trying to protect women and it’s going to
|increase if you and anyone else reading this doesn’t rape.
|u/nanobot001 - 1 month
|
|What would it take to usher such a change if this didn’t?
|u/chrysesart - 1 month
|
|There have been similar horrific rape cases that were HUGE in the
|news, in the last 10-15 yrs and nothing has changed.
|u/13thwarr - 1 month
|
|Voices have already been dampened. Just heard the news on CBC radio in
|Canada, and it reported the murder, but no mention of the rape.
|u/ordinarypleasure456 - 1 month
|
|Relevant from the article A 2015 survey conducted by the Indian
|Medical Association found that 75% of doctors had experienced some
|form of violence while on the job. Dasgupta says doctors are
|especially vulnerable because they often deal with intense life or
|death situations, and patients do not always survive, which can lead
|to anger from the patients’ loved ones. That’s especially common in
|poorer and more rural areas where patients lack basic education and
|are distrustful of doctors, Dasgupta notes.
|u/Playful_Medicine2177 - 1 month
|
|As an Indian Woman  I dont know a single woman in my life who hasn't
|been sexually harassed/molested Let that sink in
|u/juancorleone - 1 month
|
|As an Indian Man, I second this. I have heard stories from my
|Girlfriends, Wife and even my Mother. All have faced some sort of
|sexual harassment in their lives, at school, work or even at extended
|family events.
|u/Playful_Medicine2177 - 1 month
|
| Extended family events are places where creepy uncles can have a
|free pass to touch anyone inappropriately in the name of family.
|u/juancorleone - 1 month
|
|We have failed as a society and till the time we keep putting the
|onus on woman to keep themselves safe, we will keep failing . It’s
|time we call out these Uncles, these bosses and these friends, we
|all know who they are and it’s time we hold them accountable
|u/eva01beast - 1 month
|
|Me too. As an Indian man, I've known so many women who have had to
|face molestation, stalking and general harassment. There's a reason
|why women don't feel safe working in our country.
|u/delme95 - 1 month
|
|Why is that in your opinion? From an european perspective here the
|biggest risk of sexual harassment is from relatives and people the
|victim knows.
|u/Tizzy8 - 1 month
|
|97% of women in the UK report being sexually harassed or assaulted.
|Let’s not pretend this is just an Indian issue.
|u/delme95 - 1 month
|
|Interesting. Do you have a link ti the article about this?
|u/Worth_Ad2717 - 28 days
|
|This is for sure a common issue everywhere in the world. It lies
|in the genes of men, but definitely to different degree. In India,
|it is GANG RAPE and MURDER and the laws are not enforced to
|execute strong punishment to these criminals.
|u/AffectionateCan1242 - 1 month
|
|I guess this case is in anywhere in the world.
|u/mizushimo - 1 month
|
|India has a huge misogyny problem because of tradtional views of women
|and their role in society. Sexual violence is one of the tools used
|against women to keep them in their place. There's an idea across many
|cultures that if a women doesn't do x, y and z, she loses her humanity
|and the men around her are free to kill/rape her with zero moral/legal
|consequences (usually they'll start by labeling the girl as a 'whore'
|for traveling alone/having an education, which makes no sense at all
|unless whore means 'not following the rules of womanhood'. Her fate is a
|lesson to other women to follow society's rules. I'm guessing things
|were bad before but everyone looked the other way or blamed the victim.
|u/Ok-Algae-9562 - 1 month
|
|You forgot the caste system as well.
|u/mizushimo - 1 month
|
|You don't even need the caste system for this to be a thing (many
|nearby countries have the same problem and they don't have a caste
|system), but I'm sure it doesn't help. The caste system just creates
|more opportunities for people to dehumanize each other with
|sexual/physical violence if someone steps outside of the
|restrictions of their social class/caste and gender.
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|Which was outlawed by the British many years ago.
|u/Ok-Algae-9562 - 1 month
|
|Yeah which we all know magically makes things disappear right?
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|The caste system is hardly the problem that you imagine it to be
|in India.
|u/Maatsya - 1 month
|
|Source? AFAIK, the british actually encoded caste into Indian
|legal systems
|u/thecontempl8or - 1 month
|
|Am Indian. Can confirm that the caste system is still HEAVILY
|used in India. Despite it being illegal. Marriages are made
|based on the caste of the man and woman. Low caste people are
|still rejected from jobs because they’re considered
|“untouchables”. A vast majority of the poor belong to lower
|castes. Affirmative actions laws exist that allow students
|belonging to a lower caste a set amount Of seats in college. I
|know this because I am from a lower caste of Hinduism.
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|So what are you people doing about it?!?!
|u/thecontempl8or - 1 month
|
|I don’t live there anymore. Am fighting my own battles in
|the country I live in.
|u/Justnewsnow - 1 month
|
|So many comments shift to sexually repressed population. Not one is
|taking this as a personal fault of parents primarily and society to
|educate their own. If you want to be known globally for more than a
|rapist country, do more. Accept you have a problem and deal with it .
|From education to legislation to enforcing the law. During my last
|visit in India the tour guide downplayed every single news involving
|rape that happened while we were touring. Not a shred of recognition,
|and it was always the women’s fault.
|u/thecontempl8or - 1 month
|
|Man. It’s insane, and I absolutely agree with you. My very well
|educated Indian aunt recently told me it was the victims fault
|(unrelated rape case from a few years ago) for dressing “lewdly”. It
|was utterly shocking. I know quite a few sexually abusive men in my
|family, and the young girls in my family are told by their moms that
|“men are like this”. There’s no real accountability for their shitty
|behavior. Also because I don’t believe the cops do much to punish
|these abusive assholes. the Indian government is currently let run by
|a fascist Hindu extremist who wants to pretend everything about India
|is perfect.
|u/Tizzy8 - 1 month
|
|This was a very widely held and accepted belief in the USA when my
|mother was young. It’s something we still fight against here but
|it’s amazing how quickly things can change.
|u/McSuede - 1 month
|
|Crazy, it's almost like having a sexually repressed population leads
|to literally everything that you said.
|u/Away_Rip214 - 1 month
|
|the ra\*ist who has been aressted was a married man, so definitely
|not sexually repressed. The issue is with indian culture. Here women
|are treated as servants of men right from the childhood.
|u/McSuede - 1 month
|
|You can't be married *and* sexually repressed, everyone knows
|that!
|u/harrybosch1122 - 29 days
|
|There was a BBC documentary called India's daughter that came out in
|2015. It covered a specific case of rape and I think they interviewed
|one of the attackers during the documentary. He tried blaming the
|victim by saying that she was wandering the streets alone at night so
|it was her fault for being raped. The mental gymnastics was insane
|u/netraider29 - 1 month
|
|Indian here - India needs a complete social revolution but the boomers
|and the millennials alike prefer sticking their head in the mud and
|singing patriotic songs. Even the slightest bit of criticism and self
|introspection is met with bullying or abuse. Poverty plays a huge role
|into conservatism as there is not enough attention for the need of
|social revolution when most people are focused on ensuring their
|survival. Also corruption is extremely high as a result of which the
|privileged sections of society especially the political class can get
|away with a lot which results in a complete lack of trust in the
|political system. It’s not a single factor as with anything. India is a
|very complex country with a huge amount of diversity and cultures. It’s
|extremely difficult to modernize such a country where every part of the
|society is meddled with its own issues. End of the day, it will take
|decades of incremental development and social revolution to get Indians
|out of this hell hole
|u/LoudAd6879 - 1 month
|
|>India needs a complete social revolution but the boomers and the
|millennials alike prefer sticking their head in the mud and singing
|patriotic songs. Well said, but Gen Z is also falling into the abyss
|of Incel culture in India. The root problem is gender segregation.
|u/TrueCooler - 1 month
|
|It’s a complex issue. While I do agree gender segregation is part of
|the problem, you can’t realistically expect women to feel
|comfortable or safe when things like this keep happening, of course
|they’ll ask for additional protections. Which feeds into the vicious
|cycle of even more segregation. Seems more of a social/cultural
|problem than a legal one, but I have no idea how to go about solving
|it.
|u/LoudAd6879 - 1 month
|
|Lack of education and sex education, Openly talking about and
|teaching sexual health, sex education, and anything related to sex
|is a big taboo in India. People are often close-minded about sex
|(which is ironic since India is the most populated country in the
|world and is projected to peak at 1.7 to 1.8 billion). Decades-
|old incel culture: This culture existed even before the age of
|social media and is only growing thanks to social media.
|Influences like Andrew Tate and his Indian counterparts (search
|Elvish Yadav on YouTube) are fueling this incel culture.
|Politically connected individuals and their
|gangs/cronies/underlings, These people believe they can get away
|with anything, including rape, and often do. Caste system
|Judiciary, There aren't enough courts and judges in India, which
|is why victims sometimes have to wait years, even decades, to get
|justice. Contesting a case requires money and lawyers, which many
|victims cannot afford. Some victims commit suicide (or are perhaps
|murdered) before getting justice. And the law enforcement system
|is a joke. People are afraid of the police, who often boss around
|innocent civilians and seem to exist only to protect the rich,
|influential, or connected individuals. The situation of most
|women in India is similar to that of a player experiencing Elden
|Ring for the first time, India is beautiful but dangerous, much
|like the game
|u/flakemasterflake - 1 month
|
|I don't understand how sex education fixes the root cause of
|Indian men believing women are beneath them and deserving of
|rape
|u/LoudAd6879 - 1 month
|
|As I said above, there are multiple factors causing this. This
|"women are beneath them" attitude is present because of lack
|of education & other societal factors
|u/flakemasterflake - 1 month
|
|What do you think they should be educated in?
|u/LoudAd6879 - 1 month
|
|The entire education system need reforms. Schools must
|promote interaction & mutual respect between opposite
|genders. This would be a start to gradually scrap the
|misogynistic incel culture that has been present for
|decades in India
|u/MR-DEDPUL - 1 month
|
|10 cowards living on borrowed time.
|u/advik_143 - 1 month
|
|I really hope that's the case, hope justice serves them soon enough
|instead of putting it under a rug after 2 weeks
|u/Haftnotiz5962 - 1 month
|
|The Indian justice system doesn't care much about rape and women.
|They will get harsh sentences to uphold the Indian reputation and
|then be released within a few years. Indian society is vile.
|u/it-is-my-cake-day - 1 month
|
|Provided evidence is found and presented in court of law.
|u/PilotNo312 - 1 month
|
|And they think they can host the Olympics in 36, what a joke.
|u/GoodDay2You_Sir - 1 month
|
|I doubt female athletes from across the world would even agree to go
|if it was hosted in India. It'd be a huge scandal.
|u/DesiOtakuu - 1 month
|
|As much as these stats are alarming, the problem just isn't that.
|India suffers from two parallel problems - One, most of the actual
|rapes go under reported, especially in rural areas because the females
|are unaware of the law or being silences by corrupt law enforcement.
|Two - Most of the reported cases are fake cases, where the law is
|being weaponized by jilted lovers and certain criminal gangs. [BBC
|even published an article about
|it](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38796457) You see, the
|definition of rape in India is somewhat broad. Having sexual
|intercourse on pretext of a false marriage also constitutes as a rape.
|A lot of times, parents try to end taboo relationships by using these
|laws to harass the boy's families. The courts are being burdened by
|the sheer volume of these cases while the actual violent ones are left
|in the back burner. This is a serious issue, especially for the actual
|victims whose voice is never being heard or addressed.
|u/Playful_Medicine2177 - 1 month
|
|I would rather deal with racism in foreign countries than be treated an
|object in my own country. Studying and working hard to get oit of this
|country 
|u/Few-Philosopher-2677 - 1 month
|
|Let me add more context because this article doesn't give the full
|picture. The murdered woman is suspected to have uncovered some sort of
|trafficking ring. Organs/Drugs something. And the state government is
|trying it's best to shield the perpetrators and destroy evidence because
|they are involved. This is bigger than you think. This is absolutely
|terrifying. This is a preplanned murder.
|u/GEFool - 1 month
|
|Like many religiously focused societies, India is super conservative and
|male dominated. The news reports out of India has for years been
|littered with gang rapes, assaults, stigmatization of widows, etc. Same
|with the Muslim theocratic societies - wear a hijab, if not, we will
|jail you where you will be sexually assaulted, raped, and/or killed for
|your vile femaleness. I see a lot of this posturing from MAGA and the
|TradWives movement. Conservatism and religion fuck up everything. Come
|on people, let go of your Stone Age/Bronze Age religious dogma. Your
|fear of the animal inside us is making you act like animals.
|u/Durian-Monster - 1 month
|
|The problem is their religion puts them in a position of power, in
|most cases it's men. To those with privilege, they feel equality is
|taking away their power.
|u/DesiOtakuu - 1 month
|
|This is in Bengal, bordering Bangladesh and ruled by the opposition
|coalition. Apparently, the girl was murdered by some political -mafia
|nexus engaged in organ trade and sex racket ; staged to appear as a gang
|rape to confuse the law agencies. The CM presiding over the state of
|Bengal is as authoritarian as Bangladesh ex PM Haseena, without the
|economic development that the latter was known for. Her party is known
|for enabling a lot of illegal migration from Bangladesh and using them
|to cast bogus votes in favor of them during elections. This is how they
|were able to ride through the anti incumbency over the span of 15 years.
|Yesterday, her goons brazenly tried to storm the scene of crime and
|destroy the evidence. Reason: the case is now taken over by the central
|investigation agency CBI (equivalent to FBI ), so the state government
|got cold feet. A lot of people here are unaware of how criminal the
|Indian political scenario is. When people vote for Modi, it's not
|because they completely agree with his policies, but because the
|opposition is that dangerous. Coupled with their anti-development agenda
|and lazy politics, most of them get involved with these underworld
|mafia, commit brazen crimes and abuse their power to suppress dissent.
|Thanks to a few brave doctors and medical students protesting on the
|streets of Kolkata, their crimes are now being thrust into the
|limelight. A nationwide doctor protest is now in the works, and the fact
|that the entire nation is wholeheartedly supporting it even though they
|are being inconvenienced , speaks volumes of the frustration against
|these heinous criminals masquerading as lawmakers.
|u/Cute-Yogurtcloset-85 - 1 month
|
|But didn’t Modi’s party recently garland and gave a warm welcome to
|rapists from the 2002 Gujarat riots ? Bilkis Bano rape case.
|u/juancorleone - 1 month
|
|Or releasing convicted Rapists on bail so that they can canvass for
|BJP in upcoming elections. But if Mamta Banarjee is a scorpion Modi
|is a snake. Also let’s not forget Brij Bhushan Singh is still
|being shielded by BJP.
|u/DesiOtakuu - 1 month
|
|They did, and were promptly jailed again. I am not defending it
|though. Giving a garland welcome to those rapists even though they
|have completed 14 years of jail is nothing short of a crime. They
|even comitted murders, and are rightly awarded life imprisonment.
|But whatever Mamata government is doing seems far worse. She is
|using rape and murder as a tool to supress dissent. Her high level
|party members are engaged in organ and sex trade, and are desperate
|enough to storm the hospital premises with some cheap goondas from
|nearby slums. And this is in the middle of a metropolitan city. Law
|and order just seems to be dancing to their tunes. How will the
|citizens feel safe? There is a disturbing pattern to her rule. She
|probably feels that she is above general criticism and that her
|winning state election grants her absolute powers. She has been
|constantly tripping on power over the past 15 years. Just a week
|back, she made a ruckus trying to defy the foreign ministry and
|promising to host Bangladesh dissidents. I mean, what is she even
|trying to do? Undermine the democratic structure as a whole? No one
|is completely black or white, especially in the Indian political
|scenario. But she is very close to absolute levels. And that's
|scary.
|u/jingletingle1 - 1 month
|
|Needs to be higher up
|u/masalion - 1 month
|
|As an Indian, too many of us have a chronic case of not doing shit until
|it affects us personally, which is why I know this won't change
|jackshit. Anyone that can do anything will bury their head in the sand
|until the noise goes away and life goes on.
|u/twistytit - 1 month
|
|everytime i read or see anything about india, i can’t help but feel like
|everything about the place is an actual, non-hyperbolic, nightmare
|u/JohnSith - 1 month
|
|I've got some ~~good bad~~ news for you then. Less women are being
|born in India because female fetuses are being aborted.
|u/et_underneath - 1 month
|
|i don’t get why these people are not executed instead of simply jailed
|(that is if they even are jailed in the first place). “Human” rights
|don’t apply to these abominations. They need to be eradicated from the
|society altogether. Clearly, protesting doesn’t do shit. Nobody’s
|listening. Politicians don’t really give a shit. To them, it’s just
|another thing to fight each other over. Does anyone care about the
|actual issue? If so why is it still happening. Just horrid and sad.
|u/pk_12345 - 1 month
|
|They did execute the convicts of 2012 Nirbhaya case. Only in case of
|extremely brutal assault and if the case gets highly publicized.
|u/glacieonn - 1 month
|
|IT TOOK FUCKING 8 YEARS AND ONE OF THEM WAS LEFT FREE JUST BECAUSE
|HE WAS A MINOR AT THAT TIME. Let this sink in
|u/vane2266 - 1 month
|
|They also executed the suspects in the (2020?) Hyderabad case.
|Extrajudicially.
|u/ExactThoughts - 1 month
|
|Best work by the Police to be honest.
|u/Haftnotiz5962 - 1 month
|
|Only because of the bad publicity. In other even more gresome cases
|they only got a slap on the wrist. Even in the Nirbhaya case some of
|the more well conneced perpetrators got away.
|u/pk_12345 - 1 month
|
|Yes, it has to become a pan India news to get justice in India. 
|u/eva01beast - 1 month
|
|In this case, there was an attempted cover-up. The perpetrators were
|connected to someone important and probably thought that they would
|get away with it.
|u/Ankur67 - 1 month
|
|I think , point of matter is , even after her rape .. the police didn’t
|file complaint and even tried to sabotage the proof. When a state CM
|character’s assinated the women who got raped and died by terming as
|suicide. What can we expect from this low rung of Govt mechanism.
|It’s not culture issue , had it been no one would have been in protest
|but complete lethargy in Govt mechanism which somewhat seems like
|fuedal.
|u/Hycran - 1 month
|
|America is to school shooting what India is to rape.  I’m sure this
|particular rape will change everything.
|u/Icy_Razzmatazz_1567 - 1 month
|
|This is not the first time something like this has happened. Some
|brutal cases go viral once in a while, it creates a little buzz,
|people talk about it and eventually everyone forgets. There were
|atleast six rape cases in the news yesterday, a 3 year old a 9 year
|old, an old lady, no one cares anymore. Cases pending in police
|stations, some go unreported and some victims are killed before they
|raise their voice. Nothing changes ever.
|u/Hycran - 1 month
|
|... that is exactly my point.
|u/throwaway17071999 - 1 month
|
|Shit like this makes me embarrassed of my country. I'm glad that I was
|lucky enough to leave it
|u/Latter_Introduction - 1 month
|
|Where did you move to bro?
|u/Gloomy_Nebula_5138 - 1 month
|
|> Millions and millions of cases every year This is just blatant
|misinformation. Official sources have India’s reported cases at around
|30K a year. “Millions” of cases isn’t mathematically possible even if
|you take Botswana, the country with the highest incidence of rape (at
|93 cases per 100K) and apply it to India’s population numbers.
|Virtually all sources I’ve found (from the Indian government, the UN,
|and peer reviewed papers) actually says there is far less rape there
|than in most countries in the western hemisphere. We’re at 27 per
|100,000 people while India is at 1.81. Accounting for underreporting
|doesn’t change the story. The US underreporting rate is as high as 80%
|and India’s is as high as 99%, depending on the source (those two
|figures include marital rape estimates). But even adjusting for that
|just makes the two countries similar. The countries that have the
|worst incidence of sexual violence against women are the ones that
|don’t report numbers transparently - which is most of the Middle East
|countries and a significant portion of Africa.
|u/AlbinoTheWizard - 1 month
|
|Bout time India starts addressing their rape problem, its disgusting.
|u/SyntheticBees - 1 month
|
|Can anyone explain why India keeps having problems with health workers
|being assaulted? Apparently this is a trend - why? I haven't heard of a
|similar doctor-specific problem in other similar nations.
|u/eva01beast - 1 month
|
|Those cases of doctor assault aren't similar to what happened here. In
|those instances, people from less developed parts of the country where
|literacy rates are low and understanding of modern medicine is poor,
|attack health workers because they didn't perform the "miracles" that
|they were expecting them to. In these places, people go to the doctor
|way too late, either due to lack of access to clinics nearby, poor
|transportation or simple lack of awareness. There's little doctors can
|do in such cases and the family of patients takes out their grief on
|health workers. Indian health workers are overworked on top of that,
|so mistakes do happen from time to time. And once again, patients
|don't tend to be understanding. There aren't sufficient number of
|health workers per capita in India due to lack of sufficient medical
|schools (the regulations for opening new medical schools are quite
|strict, budget for education and healthcare is not sufficient, etc)
|and also because of brain drain (lot of health workers migrate to
|nations like UAE, Qatar, UK, Japan, etc where they can earn more money
|and where it is safer for them.) This particular case however is one
|of negligence, cover-up and gross misogyny. The perps were volunteers
|at the hospital who had free access to the entire building and were
|probably connected to someone important, leading to the initial cover
|up.
|u/GregJamesDahlen - 1 month
|
|looks like it's mostly female physicians striking. are male physicians
|still going to work?
|u/kewlcartman - 1 month
|
|Everyone is striking. After yesterday's attack, there are talks of
|shutting down the emergency services as well
|u/GregJamesDahlen - 1 month
|
|Hope that's true. Males should support females against rape and
|murder of females.
|u/besse - 1 month
|
|I don’t understand this reference… dolphins? Edit: apparently, not
|knowing the reference is cause for a few downvotes. 🤷🏻‍♂️
|u/Grove12 - 1 month
|
|Dolphins are a bit evil. I was gonna type a bunch of stuff but
|looked at it and thought "damn am I allowed to say that in public?".
|Uhhh if you wanna google around it's not hard to find many credible
|documentaries about how murder and rape happy dolphins are, and the
|quite disturbing things we've recorded them doing in the wild.
|u/besse - 1 month
|
|Oh shit, did not know that! They seem so happy-go-lucky!
|u/morpheousmarty - 1 month
|
|Because their bones and musculature make them seem like they are
|smiling. If they had a sad face like sharks I don't know we
|would find them hopping above the waves so playful.
|u/Buzzlight_Year - 1 month
|
|Apparently dolphins are rapists
|u/Leelze - 1 month
|
|Redditors love downvoting anyone asking a question.
|u/ABCanadianTriad - 1 month
|
|Why?
|u/Former-Toe - 1 month
|
|31,000 reported rapes in 2022!
|u/Open_Budget_9893 - 1 month
|
|Multiply that by a factor of 13 and you *might* be approaching the
|actual number. It’s insane
|u/RGV_KJ - 1 month
|
|Rapes happen all over the world.  Australian gangraped in Paris just
|before the Olympics. This being France won’t get the same attention
|obviously in the media.  https://apnews.com/article/paris-olympics-
|gang-rape-australia-tourist-66cab5a7178b83f6e8a29b168319f801#:~:text=T
|he%20Paris%20public%20prosecutor's%20office,five%20men%20raped%20the%2
|0woman.
|u/GoneRogue-8919 - 1 month
|
|You could not pay me to go to India.
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|You sure? You probably need the money cuz you're broke.
|u/GoneRogue-8919 - 1 month
|
|Lmao...if you want to think that. I just don't want to be raped and
|murdered. My life is worth more than money, but hey you do you
|buddy.
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|Why would you be raped or murdered?
|u/GoneRogue-8919 - 1 month
|
|Because unfortunately that is what India is known for now. As a
|woman there is a very high chance that I will be harassed,
|stalked, raped or murdered. There are too many stories of
|tourists being raped, harassed and stalked. You aren't even safe
|in tourist areas. Women are being warned to not go to India
|because of the issues that are going on over there with men and
|the government. India is not a safe place for women and girls.
|Those are just facts.
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|Grossly exaggerated.
|u/GoneRogue-8919 - 1 month
|
|It's not. Maybe you should look up the amount of violence
|committed over there against women. It's disgusting how the
|Indian government tries to hide this. Men aren't held
|accountable for their actions in India, And I rather spend
|my money somewhere I will be safe and protected. A tourist
|was ganged raped by 7 men in front of her husband a few
|months ago.The government tried to hide it. There was no
|apology to the woman, just her husband and they gave HIM 14k
|for HIS trauma and refused to name the demons who committed
|this disgusting act. It's article after article of the
|atrocities being committed but sure buddy, they are grossly
|exaggerated. 😐
|u/shanky94 - 1 month
|
|Fear should be the deterrent for any future perpetrators. There is no
|other alternative but to make an example out of the accused.
|u/inilashremot - 1 month
|
|Please share this news as far out as possible! Dont let it die
|u/yulbrynnersmokes - 1 month
|
|Superpower by 2020
|u/PotentialSherbert8 - 1 month
|
|And this country wants to host 2036 Olympics.
|u/pokemonandgenshin - 1 month
|
|In south korea the doctors strike for the country wanting more
|pediatricians
|u/ImpressionFeisty8359 - 1 month
|
|It is a fucked up world.
|u/Open_Budget_9893 - 1 month
|
|*nation. No other countries come close to statistics like this unless
|actively at war
|u/Cristoff13 - 1 month
|
|Reporting bias. Bad news is far more newsworthy.
|u/Background-Silver685 - 1 month
|
|peace, non-violence, love, dance, democracy.
|u/pbrkd - 1 month
|
|Absolutely awful to hear another such case from India. I also really
|dislike that they bring this attitude with them to other countries. I
|know at least a few women in the US who have been treated very
|poorly/harassed by Indian men in the workplace.
|u/pavuz - 1 month
|
|The reason is just one thing - Respect. Respect for a woman, not just
|when they’re a mother or a sister or a daughter etc. just respect for
|women. Sons are brought up on a pedestal here compared to daughters,
|they are given leeway while daughters are supposed to uphold the
|family’s pride and values. Only then she deserves respect that too if
|they feel like it. But trust me they’ll find an issue even with that
|respectable goody daughter when they feel the urge to sexually assault.
|They will definitely find an issue in her and say because of that she
|deserved it. Even educated men here don’t know how to respect women.
|They simply haven’t been brought up that way. And further even if they
|decide to do something, what’s the worst they have to face? The victim
|will have to be traumatised their entire life while these men don’t have
|to face any lasting consequences. If u ask me you should just cut their
|dicks put them in a fucking isolated cramped cell and let them rot there
|for life subjecting them to the extreme torture even death shouldn’t be
|a choice given to them.
|u/Helping_Aide - 1 month
|
|In a nutshell- India’s legal system is a joke. Nobody cares about
|breaking the law as there is no fear of consequences , as you can pay
|your way through the corrupt legal system, an example-
|https://www.reddit.com/r/LegalAdviceIndia/s/H82uM6cID4 The entire legal
|system is designed for the benefit of the criminal and the amounts they
|can pay to delay the cases and escape. What do criminals have to fear?
|We live in 2024, and legal paperwork is not online, the records are not
|online, yet the country has so much unemployment? Can’t hire people to
|manage records? How long do Indians have to take to realise the power
|they hold, its their human right to get justice on time? Criminals can
|only fear law that actually is quicker, specially in women’s cases, but
|all we can do is write these posts because the people holding the power
|will do nothing. Yes, CJI only speeches won’t help this country, your
|directions to act promptly will.
|u/jazzyx26 - 1 month
|
|This is so awful. Poor girl. 😔
|u/liuerluo - 7 days
|
|Just Indian people doing Indian things, you know.
|u/Away_Rip214 - 1 month
|
|on top of this, indian men don't consider marital ra\*e a crime,
|marriage is a license for s\*x to them. hence why arranged/forced
|marriages are so popular in india
|u/Snoo-25258 - 1 month
|
|Just remember that India produces a significant number of doctors,
|engineers, scientists, and technologists, many of whom migrate to your
|countries and improve the lot of your societies. You should be grateful
|for what India contributes to the world. Those of you who keep playing
|the blame game and mislabeling India as the "rape capital of the world"
|are just outing yourselves as the racists that you are.
|u/awesomobottom - 1 month
|
|It would seem that rape is a big issue in India. Is that incorrect?
|Do you think the protest is unnecessary? Do you think there should be
|any changes to the status quo?
|u/Exact-Most-2323 - 1 month
|
|Indians need to stop celebrating rapists. How vile do you need to be to
|search for rape victims on porn sites, I mean how sexually repressed are
|they. There also seems to be variations on how rape cases are handled.
|Upper caste Hindu women in some cases get justice, the rest and
|minorities don’t even seem to get any. Yet Indians online act in a
|holier than thou attitude and lectures others on human rights. It’s time
|to introspect and bring about necessary changes, Indians.
|u/1tonsoprano - 1 month
|
|The prime minister and the home minister got into power via the murder
|of a political rival and then instigated one of the largest murder of
|Muslims ever seen. What can you expect from a nation with leaders like
|this. Things are only going to get worse.
|u/puesyomero - 1 month
|
|I mean the fascists in power are bad but this is an ongoing issue. 
|u/Ashwa108 - 1 month
|
|The anti Modi state government is actively trying to coverup the case
|because members connected to its political party are involved. They
|tried to play it off as suicide, reinstated the principal of the
|college, cremated the body without a proper autopsy and have destroyed
|the crime scene before CBI investigation could start. This same anti
|Modi party has a history of using r*pe as a political weapon where
|recently a member of their party was arrested for coercion and r*pe of
|tribal women and also uses violence to rig elections.
|u/Bytes_0 - 1 month
|
|That's some other level of brain rot you are consuming
|u/privitizationrocks - 1 month
|
|Modi instigated the riots?
|u/Gloomy_Tangerine3123 - 1 month
|
|He definitely took advantage of Godhra riots of 2002 for his
|political career but not sure if he instigated it. He was cleared of
|charges
|u/54n94 - 1 month
|
|Charges were that he couldn’t stop it before it happened.
|u/JosephScmith - 1 month
|
|What can you expect from the nations where the Muslims kill the
|minority groups?
|u/ChibiSailorMercury - 1 month
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|\#NotAllMen, yes, but isn't it time women flee India?
|u/bonnymurphy - 1 month
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|There are around 700 million women in India. Where do you propose they
|go? With what means do you propose they leave with? Should they take
|their children? Which countries will receive 700 million women plus
|their children on the basis they face rape at home? Can we stop
|placing the burden of avoiding rape on women?
|u/MrBlack103 - 1 month
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|I hear you. All the *men* should leave India. Edit: Is the */s*
|really necessary?
|u/TaurusRuber - 1 month
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|Oh yes, export them to all the other countries so they can have
|rape problems too. Seems like a good idea. Perhaps you should be
|in a position of power with such incredible geopolitical views. 
|u/ABCanadianTriad - 1 month
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|Don't worry brother, Canada got it covered
|u/TaurusRuber - 1 month
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|Don’t worry brother, I live in Canada :(
|u/MrBlack103 - 1 month
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|Hey I didn’t say they should go to other countries.
|u/SuperOrganizer - 1 month
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|I hear they found water on Mars. So that should be habitable
|soon. /s
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