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|u/PhanThief95 - 1 month
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|Now Grant Ward looks even more like Grant Ward!
|u/notthefuckingducks - 1 month
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|Ha. I remember when his character on AoS just wouldn’t. Fucking. Die.
|u/SchAmToo - 1 month
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|Grant? Oh you must mean THE HIVE. 
|u/tore_a_bore_a - 1 month
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|Loved how no one trusted him in that computer universe. They're
|just like this guy's going to fucking betray us.
|u/SailorET - 1 month
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|Props to the actor for playing 4 completely different (Hero
|Ward, Hydra Ward, Hive Ward and Framework Ward)takes on the same
|character but staying believable in each one.
|u/Burt_Selleck - 1 month
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|Hero ward going to betrayal ward was one of my favourite arcs
|in tv for a long long time. I so believed in him as a
|prototypical cookie cutter good guy that when he turned his
|back on his friends and partners, fuck I was mad at him. Top
|tier heel turn that nearly gives Hogan at bash at the beach a
|run for his money, the rotten bastard.
|u/BrownBear93 - 1 month
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|100% agree, I remember it really took me by surprise but it
|was a great storyline.
|u/indianajoes - 1 month
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|I remember reviewers back then were complaining about how
|boring Ward was and how he was the worst character because
|he was your stereotypical expert on the team there to
|protect everyone
|u/indianajoes - 1 month
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|I remember the reviews criticising Ward for being so boring
|and plain. They had no idea what was in store. To be fair I
|didn't either. I have never been more shocked about a twist
|u/fishling - 1 month
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|Sounds like that show went WAY farther than I realized.
|Stopped watching while he was still Hydra Ward.
|u/tomyfookinmerlin - 1 month
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|went about 7 seasons further than where you stopped lol
|u/firagabird - 1 month
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|I stopped dairy of the 8th/last season just because I was
|so burned out by how wacky the plot had become. Whichever
|season was the end of OG Coulson was probably the best
|one, and where the show should've stopped.
|u/thegreenhornett - 1 month
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|That show jumped about a dozen sharks but tbh I was
|still enjoying it by the end.
|u/goawaybatn - 1 month
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|I was bummed we didn’t get the spin-off with the
|couple of characters who had their cover blown.
|u/TheLowlyPheasant - 1 month
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|I stopped in the last season because I just kind of ran
|out of steam, but the one before that was a pretty good
|season of Star Trek - The Next Generation wrapped up in
|a Marvel skin
|u/Tcvang1 - 1 month
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|After Marvel left AoS in the dirt, the writers went a
|little wild. And I loved every second of it. Except for
|the shrikes, that but wasn't that good imo. But the LMD
|shit though, that shit was good. Oh and Ghost Rider, oh
|and the mutant superpowers with the sanctuary stuff was
|cool, oh and the whole Hydra thing kind of was peak TV.
|u/MakeURage1 - 1 month
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|I quit watching whenever they ended up in space. Don't
|remember what season it was, but I just didn't really
|care for it at that point.
|u/indianajoes - 1 month
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|No the final season was the best one so you don't get to
|judge
|u/Mari0wana - 1 month
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|Great show tho and that ending... Wow. Fitz-Simmons the
|main characters all along.
|u/zach23456 - 1 month
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|Season 4 was amazing so you def missed out
|u/fishling - 1 month
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|I've considered trying to pick it up again, so your
|recommendation helps. Thanks!
|u/AreEyeGeeBeeWhy - 1 month
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|I second this. Season 4 is legitimately one of my
|favorite seasons of TV across any show I've ever
|watched. The framework storyline is just absolutely
|fantastic and heartbreaking surrounding one character in
|particular. And the actor who plays Fitz does an AMAZING
|job that season too.
|u/Waiting404Godot - 1 month
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|Fitz-Simmons to this day is one of the greatest TV
|duos I’ve ever seen.
|u/LessInThought - 1 month
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|Omg Season 4 Episde 15 - Self Control. Stellar acting from
|Fitzsimmons.
|u/Polkawillneverdie81 - 1 month
|
|AoD definitely didn't get enough love. It deserved
|better.
|u/CharginChuck42 - 1 month
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|Season 4 had the benefit of being split into three
|separate arcs that each told their own story but all came
|together in the end. To this day I still wonder why they
|didn't use that same approach in the subsequent seasons.
|u/Polkawillneverdie81 - 1 month
|
|Great. Now I gotta watch Agents of Shield all over
|again.
|u/InsanityAtBounds - 1 month
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|What show is AoS? It sounds interesting
|u/TheEmbarrasingFool - 1 month
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|'Agents of Shield' it started as a tie in show to the
|marvel movies. Starts right after the first avengers
|movie. It pretty quickly goes off and does its own thing
|though. Basically it starts as a comic book/spy show and
|just goes from there. I'd recommend it, the character
|development over seasons is really good.
|u/InjusticeJosh - 1 month
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|It’s my favorite show ever
|u/More_Ad_3739 - 1 month
|
|Yeah he got >!His body taken over by an Inhuman god after
|being killed on an alien planet, and then came back again in
|a simulation where HYDRA won but he was double agent inside
|HYDRA this time!< totally not confusing, I know
|u/3z3ki3l - 1 month
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|I really wish they’d have brought Framework >!Ward out of
|the simulation as an LMD.!< If just to drag the joke on
|even further. Edit/also: lmao we’d have seen Ward be
|>!terrified and suspicious of Fitz, while everyone *but*
|Fitz is scared of Ward.!<
|u/PMmePowerRangerMemes - 1 month
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|it's a comicbook show in all the best ways
|u/ShizTheresABear - 1 month
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|Season 4 is worth watching. I stopped halfway through 5
|u/DannySpud2 - 1 month
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|Shield was great at blasting through premises. They'd set up
|a cool situation, explore it for half a season, and then
|resolve it and move on to a new cool situation. There were 7
|seasons but probably 14 different premises that each could
|have been a decent show by themselves. Like the Framework,
|that alone could have been a decent 3+ seasons show, in
|Shield it's like half a season.
|u/Alphafuccboi - 1 month
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|I read up on it the other day and there was so much shit I
|forgot. Its somehow a great and shitty show at the same
|time
|u/FNLN_taken - 1 month
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|Last two seasons went off the rails, but at least they were
|having fun with it. It was the best comic book live-action
|TV show in my opinion, until Loki.
|u/indianajoes - 1 month
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|You stopped before it got really good
|u/your_mind_aches - 1 month
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|SquidWard*
|u/buddhatherock - 1 month
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|Iain De Caestecker was also phenomenal for many of the same
|reasons. That man put on a master class of acting in the later
|seasons.
|u/SailorET - 1 month
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|Agreed, he was an absolute stand out among a fantastic cast.
|I've been hoping to see him in something else since, but he
|seems to be suffering the scifi curse (where you get no
|major roles after a big one in a single series). His King
|Arthur show looked interesting but I wasn't about to
|subscribe to MGM+ for it.
|u/WiFiForeheadWrinkles - 1 month
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|King Arthur was awful IMO. Wasted Iain.
|u/FNLN_taken - 1 month
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|All King Arthur / Merlin / Camelot shows are cursed,
|imo. He's a great supporting actor, maybe he should
|stick to that.
|u/Brentimusmaximus - 1 month
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|God he was so fucking good at that
|u/russketeer34 - 1 month
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|I really loved what they did with Framework Ward. Goes to show
|that a single change in one's life can really send one down a
|completely different path
|u/StereoZombie - 1 month
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|The Framework season was such a great What If storyline in
|true comic book fashion before What If became a show. It also
|made me cry like a baby
|u/russketeer34 - 1 month
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|Just an absolutely wonderful season of TV. Who would've
|thought that a Ghost Rider arc would be the worst part of
|the season. The end of the LMD arc with Self Control was
|fantastic too (By far the best episode of the series, in my
|opinion). I loved that they actually titled the first
|episode of the Framework arc "What If..."
|u/your_mind_aches - 1 month
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|Self Control is just one of my favourite TV episodes of
|all time
|u/OttawaTGirl - 1 month
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|The ghost rider was pretty awesome.
|u/tokes_4_DE - 1 month
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|The ending of the framework was such a beautiful scene.
|Radcliffs last words on the beach "so this is the way the
|world ends. Not with a bang but with a...." and then he just
|vanishes completely, i loved his character so much. They had
|some really gut punching deaths / goodbyes throughout the
|show, a spys goodbye when hunter / bobbi are forced to leave
|shield, talbots death after a season of him being brutalized
|and keeping faith that coulson was coming to save him was so
|damn sad. Really was rooting for talbot to be saved but knew
|it wasnt happening. Oh and of course the one version of fitz
|dying as well in s5. So many people gave up on shield
|after a boring first half of season 1, but if you stuck with
|it it became one of marvels best shows ever.
|u/KurlyChaos - 1 month
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|AoS truly did What If better than What If and they did
|Secret Invasion better than Secret Invasion with the whole
|LMD May storyline
|u/Financial-Raise3420 - 1 month
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|I really wanted Framework Ward to get a real body. I missed
|having Ward around. Loved every iteration of the character.
|Also thought he would’ve been a perfect Taskmaster. At that
|time they had absolutely no plans for the character, should’ve
|let Ward have it.
|u/LessInThought - 1 month
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|Yeah, so tired to evil Ward, bring back sweet and nice team
|player Ward.
|u/TBAnnon777 - 1 month
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|We have decided to name him squidward.
|u/Xelopheris - 1 month
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|Bring a sword!
|u/TheUberMedic786 - 1 month
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|Except now he's the fucking witness in d2
|u/obiwans_lightsaber - 1 month
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|Wait WHAT? That’s HIM?!
|u/Sabretooth1100 - 1 month
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|Yep! I just learned recently too. Grant Ward was my most hated
|marvel character for what he did and then he went and indirectly
|killed off Cayde 6 too
|u/DisasterAhead - 1 month
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|Imo, the places where his actual voice shines through the most
|are all in the raid. If you ever do it it's worth listening to
|the dialogue.
|u/tarrsk - 1 month
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|He fucking crushed it, too. “We… I… don’t understand…”
|u/LiamMorg - 1 month
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|I can't say I finished the story satisfied with the Witness as a
|character and villain, but the voice acting was superb in Final
|Shape once its detached, superior demeanor was finally stripped
|away. The wail of agony near the end of Iconoclasm and the "We.
|Will. Not. YIELD!" line that randomly occurs in Excision are
|some of the best instances of voice acting in the series'
|history.
|u/PanicEffective6871 - 1 month
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|Local man too handsome to die
|u/Cuppieecakes - 1 month
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|somehow grant ward returned
|u/Argomer - 1 month
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|Age of Sigmar?
|u/GKMoggleMogXIII - 1 month
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|My first thought too, but it's Agents of Shield.
|u/Cornyblodd1234 - 1 month
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|Thank you, he who is so wise in the ways of things other than
|Warhammer
|u/samurairaccoon - 1 month
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|I hate it when people abbreviate shit like everyone *must* know
|what you're talking about. Just type out the whole name, it ain't
|that hard.
|u/writers_block - 1 month
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|Huge pet peeve of mine
|u/STFUNeckbeard - 1 month
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|My wife almost quit the show during our first run through because he
|was such a piece of shit and they just kept bringing him back lol
|u/madpoke - 1 month
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|i hated him so much lol
|u/trainercatlady - 1 month
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|one of the top tier mcu villains for sure.
|u/Remon_Kewl - 1 month
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|In the early days the Marvel TV shows' villains were most of the
|times much better than the movie ones. Ward, Fisk, Kilgrave,
|Cottonmouth.
|u/indianajoes - 1 month
|
|Agreed. The TV villains back then were better than a lot of
|the movie ones. I forgot how good Cottonmouth was. It was
|such a downgrade to go from him to whatever the fuck
|Diamondback was
|u/GrimaceGrunson - 1 month
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|And then he did but kept going.
|u/SuperHandsMiniatures - 1 month
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|Can make the same argumemt about Coulson. And others. They couldnt
|let anyone go.
|u/Lord_Charles_I - 1 month
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|That kinda stays on track with Comic Book antics to be frank
|u/vewfndr - 1 month
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|Fucking hell, I was so happy when they finally moved on from his
|character the first time and got so pissed when he came back.
|u/emlgsh - 1 month
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|I still think that they should have kept Brett Dalton on the cast by
|using him in further seasons as innocuous background characters
|after his character's final demise, characters the main cast even
|interacted with briefly but never noticed or acknowledged looked
|exactly like Grant Ward.
|u/ligerzeronz - 1 month
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|He then converted himself into a Chicago firefighter!
|u/lemothelemon - 1 month
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|When he'd appear my partner and I would go "Ward! *Spit*"
|u/Mother_V - 1 month
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|It was my favourite bit. I was so sad when they didn’t find away to
|bring him back in season 5. Especially after bringing him back for
|season 4
|u/EloraDonovan - 1 month
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|I’ve never played this game but as soon as I saw the face on the right
|I was like ‘wait…Ward??’
|u/PhanThief95 - 1 month
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|This game actually has some famous actors in it. Besides Brett
|Dalton there’s also Hayden Panettiere, Rami Malek, & Peter Stormare.
|u/SilverKry - 1 month
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|I don't think Rami Malek was huge at the time of this games
|original release. He had yet to do Mr. Robot or the Queen movie
|and such. He's a pretty decent name now tho. Hayden Panettiere and
|Peter Stormare were probably the biggest names in the game at the
|time. 
|u/PhanThief95 - 1 month
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|He was still in Night at the Museum so he was still a
|recognizable face at the time.
|u/ReDDevil2112 - 1 month
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|Mr. Robot had premiered months before Until Dawn came out, and
|Malek had a number of notable roles in other projects in the
|years prior, though I agree he wasn't the big name that he is
|now.
|u/thereIsAHoleHere - 1 month
|
|"came out" is the key phrase there. Mr. Robot was the pivotal
|moment of his career that made him a known name instead of a
|"that guy." Development of a game takes a long-ass time (just
|like with a show). Premiering months apart has no effect on
|the star power at time of casting. Equally, being months
|apart, the most effect it would have is, "Oh, it's the Mr.
|Robot guy," for people already playing the game.
|u/balllzak - 1 month
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|I called him Mr. Robot for the entirety of the game
|u/your_mind_aches - 1 month
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|He was already famous, he just wasn't "headlining a 900 million
|dollar movie" famous.
|u/Nukleon - 1 month
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|When they did all the mocap and vo recording he was completely
|unknown essentially. They lucked into him being a rising star
|u/ItsSansom - 1 month
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|It's like seeing Michael Mando as Vaas in Far Cry 3 and then
|watching Better Call Saul
|u/poklane - 1 month
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|Peter Stormare is also reportedly playing the same role in the
|movie adaptation, which they're currently filming. 
|u/DeadpooI - 1 month
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|Fucking shit, I'll watch anyth8nf with Peter stormare
|u/More_Ad_3739 - 1 month
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|He’s briefly in the Castlevania Netflix show too
|u/Pun_In_Ten_Did - 1 month
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|Sure but would you let him... [<vid> un-pimp your
|ride??](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0CfSvB_ei8)
|u/DeadpooI - 1 month
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|[I'd let him do a
|lot...](https://giphy.com/gifs/americangods-starz-american-
|gods-l46CvVhZFW0Pw7AkM)
|u/SlurmmsMckenzie - 1 month
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|"I'm with you guys!  Let's kill that son of a bi...."
|u/ziddersroofurry - 1 month
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|Same. He's fucking brilliant.
|u/Yeah_Y_Not - 1 month
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|Did you see him in Private Dicks? I so wish it got an ending.
|u/Wasabi-Historical - 1 month
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|He’s just a nihilist, nothing to be afraid of…
|u/jl_theprofessor - 1 month
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|I will watch that if that's the csae.
|u/Murasasme - 1 month
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|Are the other actors not playing their roles as well?
|u/Escheron - 1 month
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|It's a new story with new characters. Aside from Stormare's 
|u/gahlo - 1 month
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|New story you say? May just see it now.
|u/monkeybrain3 - 1 month
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|Wait, we're going to party like movie stars soon?!
|u/Shelverman - 1 month
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|I clicked on this specifically to find out if it was Ward.
|u/k0untd0une - 1 month
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|I remember watching my friend play the game when it came out and when
|I saw him I was like, "Wait. Is that Grant Ward? Gawd I hate that
|fucker!" and I begged him to kill him ASAP.
|u/goodidea-fairy - 1 month
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|I tried to kill him the entire game. The only time he can actually
|die is a few seconds from the end, and by that point he'd grown on
|me.
|u/LakeEarth - 1 month
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|That's so much Grant Ward, I can't believe it!
|u/fookofuhtool - 1 month
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|Didn't expect to find so many other members of our small but active
|fan base here.
|u/bookdrops - 1 month
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|Our small but active fanbase will never die. 🥲 Or will at least be
|resurrected as remarkably lifelike robots.
|u/indianajoes - 1 month
|
|It's actually such a nice surprise to see so many people talking
|about this show. With the hate it got from so many "mainstream MCU"
|fans, it always felt like the little show that carried on no matter
|what. I feel like a lot of people got into it thanks to word of
|mouth, Disney+ and Covid
|u/YoDiz1 - 1 month
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|I had a feeling I recognized that face lol
|u/CyberSosis - 1 month
|
|ya dawg we heard you like Grant Ward so we doubled Grant up the
|Ward.
|u/ryanandhobbes - 1 month
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|I feel like while the remaster is beautiful, the original looks way
|more like him.
|u/robdrak - 1 month
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|Same here. IMHO for that reason the original looks better
|u/Prysorra2 - 1 month
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|Glad to see this on top ...
|u/disorder1991 - 1 month
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|Okay, I'm not crazy. That is Ward. Good to know lol
|u/mightylordredbeard - 1 month
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|For whatever reason the original looks more like him to me. I barely
|recognized him in the remaster.
|u/Sabretooth1100 - 1 month
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|No wonder this made me feel vaguely angry!
|u/Mateorabi - 1 month
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|I don't know. Remastered looks better. But guy on the right looks
|more like him I think. Also title is infuriating: it's Remastered vs
|Original, not Original vs Remastered!
|u/CrossENT - 1 month
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|The original looks like Grant Ward. The Remaster looks like Grant Ward
|got his DNA spliced with Ash Williams.
|u/Typical_Samaritan - 1 month
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|It's not just that Grant Ward looks even more like Grant Ward. Grant
|Ward looks like \[***a***\] Grant Ward. Like, if he said his name was
|Jason Louderman, you'd accept it. But you'd be quietly thinking to
|yourself that he looks more like a Grant Ward.
|u/Pigosaurusmate - 1 month
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|Actually, the remaster make him look like a Bollywood star imho.
|u/General_Jiffy - 1 month
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|In what world does it make sense to put the remaster on the left and
|original on the right?
|u/WhiteCyan - 1 month
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|In a world where engagement is key and you want to bait people to post
|comments
|u/nedelll - 1 month
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|If people are getting baited by this they deserve to be baited
|u/javajunkie314 - 1 month
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|OP is a master of baiting.
|u/SheetPancakeBluBalls - 1 month
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|The irony is beautiful.
|u/reg42 - 1 month
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|Yeah it's not like they click baited or anything. Just swapped the
|order and people lost their minds
|u/OrneryError1 - 1 month
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|Go away I'm baitin!
|u/Call_me_Tomcat - 1 month
|
|Dude, you yourself just got baited to engage with the person
|you’re responding to, which bolsters engagement further.   AND
|NOW I’M DOING IT.    FUCK. 
|u/Thotaz - 1 month
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|Reddit comment engagement doesn't do anything for OP though, only
|up/downvotes do AFAIK.
|u/promisethatimnotabot - 1 month
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|r/afterbeforewhatever
|u/okaythenmate - 1 month
|
|The problem I has with this was the title, it says Original vs
|Remastered and then the image is Remastered on the left and then
|Original on the right... Before I even saw the text on the image, my
|brain was like "Woah the original looked freaking amazing compared to
|the remastered"
|u/neverendingchalupas - 1 month
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|The new generation z stands for zero retention.
|u/Callum1710 - 1 month
|
|Shit... This game is getting a remaster already?! Wait what do you mean
|it's almost 10 years old?!
|u/SwarleySwarlos - 1 month
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|The made the remake because it's getting ported on PC. Might as well
|also do a PS5 version.
|u/baxter00uk - 1 month
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|Yeah might as well just change the extension to .ps5 while they are
|at it.
|u/Fogl3 - 1 month
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|And also require a PlayStation account!
|u/ActualTymell - 1 month
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|I mean, that still seems far too recent to warrant a remake IMO.
|u/Serethekitty - 1 month
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|It might've been the only way they could get Sony to sign off on
|putting it on PC? That alone is pretty huge and makes it worth it
|IMO.
|u/jayL21 - 1 month
|
|definitely seems that way, every sony game that got released on PC
|recently was either an updated version, a remaster, or a full on
|remake.
|u/WolfyMcBark - 1 month
|
|Noodle on this. The original Resident Evil for the PlayStation came
|out in 1996. The game cube remake came out in 2002. Only six years
|apart. If you look at it that way, 10 years for a remaster seems
|like quite a long time ;P In all seriousness though, I still think
|the original Until Dawn still holds up well today. I’m surprised
|it’s getting remaster treatment too!
|u/Narget1134 - 1 month
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|>I’m surprised it’s getting remaster treatment too! Well, the The
|Last of Us franchise already got a lot of remakes and remasters,
|and Naughty Dog didn't even wait for both games to be at least 10
|years old. So it doesn't surprise me that UD is getting the remake
|treatment.
|u/chuby2005 - 1 month
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|And also shows the diminishing return that is hyperrealism in games.
|u/AL2009man - 1 month
|
|to be fair: elements of Until Dawn either don't age well or are
|very jank....specifically; facial animations during close-up
|shots. plus: Until Dawn is a far more beloved game + coming to PC
|day 1, so it soften the blow for a bit.
|u/TheDeadlySinner - 1 month
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|Not really. The new one looks vastly better, and it's still
|nowhere near movie CGI from 15 years ago.
|u/The_Good_Count - 1 month
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|The amount of work to make it look that much better versus how
|much more I enjoy the end product is pretty disproportionate,
|the original looks fine to me
|u/Witherboss445 - 1 month
|
|Speak for yourself, I have a habit of staring at different
|graphical effects like normal maps, water splashes, and how
|light reacts to stuff. Bring forth the eye candy! In all
|seriousness the original does look fine to me too. Maybe they
|should’ve waited a bit or done an older game
|u/ChristopherDassx_16 - 1 month
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|There's also a movie coming, hence the decision of getting
|it onto PC
|u/teenyweenysuperguy - 1 month
|
|I think a game like this is the *perfect* choice for a remaster
|with maybe a couple QoL updates and otherwise all the dialogue
|and stuff the same. The whole point of it at the time was that
|it was supposed to look real. Like a movie. Real people. As
|close to real as possible. Like it's a movie you're directing.
|But also starring in at the same time. But also it's real. So. 
|    I think it looks better, I love me some impressive lights
|and shadows, I'd totally be curious to see how uncanny the
|valley could get, and whether it would increase the tension.
|u/gahlo - 1 month
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|Going beyond 4K is basically pointless, so we're just polishing it
|now.
|u/whodoesnthavealts - 1 month
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|I mean, what does resolution have to do with this? I could
|upscale Mario 64 to 4k resolution, but it's not going to look
|better than the completely re-done and re-rendered Mario
|Odyssey...
|u/Owobowos-Mowbius - 1 month
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|It do be lookin good tho
|u/RyanAshbr00k213 - 1 month
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|Yea! It does look very good. If they were going to do it, they
|made sure to do it well. 
|u/ScoffSlaphead72 - 1 month
|
|I'm guessing its being put on PC, Because otherwise it would be
|downright idiotic to remaster a game for PS5 that you can already
|play on PS5 via backwards compatibility.
|u/your_mind_aches - 1 month
|
|The PS4 is one of the most graphically compromised systems of all
|time, so I'd argue that almost any PS4 game could be remade (unless
|the developer were wizards like Guerrilla, Naughty Dog or
|Insomniac). But also, Super Mario All Stars was five years after
|Mario 3. Mario 64 DS was eight years after Mario.
|u/NickWangOG - 1 month
|
|They are making a movie, so they are banking on it to make some more
|money
|u/SuicidalTurnip - 1 month
|
|Fuck off is it, it's like a 2 year old game... TWENTY FIFTEEN WHAT
|THE FUCK
|u/Dom8799 - 1 month
|
|Writes “Original vs Remaster” then posts in Remaster vs Original
|picture…..how do you get this wrong? Like how?
|u/the_real_junkrat - 1 month
|
|Standard Reddit protocol.
|u/Disturbing_Trend_666 - 1 month
|
|Enragement engagement.
|u/AdolescentAlien - 1 month
|
|Ohhh this is the first time I’ve heard that. I like it much better
|than rage bait. Sounds scholarly.
|u/martialar - 1 month
|
|this kind of practice doesn't deserve the honor
|u/severalcircles - 1 month
|
|If this enrages someone they might need, like, emergency
|assistance
|u/kevinTOC - 1 month
|
|Reddit protocol 1337.5: - All "before vs. after" posts shall, as
|standard be presented in an order differing from the post's
|respective title.
|u/JustinD1010 - 1 month
|
|r/afterbeforewhatever
|u/Kevin_Wolf - 1 month
|
|> Writes “Original vs Remaster” then posts in Remaster vs Original
|picture…..how do you get this wrong? Like how? It's on purpose,
|specifically to attract people like you (and by extension, me and the
|dozens of other people who have voted on your comment). Your comment
|is engagement. Just like mine.
|u/ApolloKid- - 1 month
|
|You're probably giving them too much credit to be honest.
|u/North_Library3206 - 1 month
|
|On any other social media platform maybe I'd agree with you, but
|this kind of engagement is basically useless on Reddit.
|u/Salted_Caramel_Core - 1 month
|
|It used to be, 10 years ago. Now reddit is monetized so yes,
|engagement is *the* purpose of reddit now
|u/gosti500 - 1 month
|
|what do you mean its monetized? people can get money off of
|their reddit posts???
|u/muzak23 - 1 month
|
|You *can* officially, though it’s based on awards and not
|engagement or upvotes. Look at the “contributor program”, you
|need a ton of awards to get any money though.
|u/SavvySillybug - 1 month
|
|Not to mention that it's America only. I looked into it once
|and was like... oh okay not for me I'm too European
|Actually I just checked and they expanded it... huh I now
|qualify! Neat. I won't, but neat
|u/Muffin_Appropriate - 1 month
|
|Paywalls are coming but in the meantime it’s mostly the 3rd
|party hotlinking This post is not a good example of these
|but does still carry the same engagement ragebait to it.
|Also, Just because this post doesn’t have a specific hot link
|to some bullshit doesn’t mean it’s not participating in the
|culture of clickbait that pervades the internet these days. So
|it’s stupid either way.
|u/Vektor0 - 1 month
|
|Shareholders *believe* engagement = value. Therefore, more
|engagement = more *perceived* value. Therefore, the company
|increases its *perceived* value by increasing user engagement.
|The company makes money by increasing its share prices. User
|engagement leads to higher perceived value, which leads to
|more desirable shares, which leads to higher share prices,
|which leads to more money for the company.
|u/FuraFaolox - 1 month
|
|why did you quote the entire comment you responded to
|u/ciferenforfiren - 1 month
|
|It's on purpose, specifically to attract people like you (and by
|extension, me and the dozens of other people who have voted on
|your comment). Your comment is engagement. Just like mine.
|u/RawBlowe - 1 month
|
|*POV: OP's who rarely apply POV correctly by design*
|u/Penakoto - 1 month
|
|What a load of tin-foil hat nonsense, people aren't making minor
|thread titling mistakes as part of some grand conspiracy to optimize
|engagement.
|u/Boodikii - 1 month
|
|Nothing sells products more like having your customer's first
|reaction be "That looks like shit, probably another money grab"
|u/JonatasA - 1 month
|
|Engagement for what, what is the end product? &nbsp; It would be
|on the front late regardless. What else is it engaging with at this
|point?
|u/peanutbuttahcups - 1 month
|
|An active comment section keeps it on the front page, I'm
|guessing.
|u/CosmoShiner - 1 month
|
|Karma. People LOVE their dopamine hits by seeing the upvotes get
|high
|u/dandroid126 - 1 month
|
|To sell copies of the game. This post is an advertisement for the
|game.
|u/Refflet - 1 month
|
|Don't forget to downvote.
|u/Tsquared10 - 1 month
|
|Right? I was like what's this fucking downgrade and was ready to break
|out pitchforks
|u/Dachuiri - 1 month
|
|Fr i was about to say wow this remaster looks like a downgrade, then i
|read the photo captions
|u/Ncrpts - 1 month
|
|Plot twist: the captions are also switched
|u/Joey-tnfrd - 1 month
|
|Having the before picture on the right and the after picture on the
|left trigger me as much as it does is my biggest beige flag.
|u/Dom8799 - 1 month
|
|Hahah, I felt triggered 🤣
|u/Adventurous-Ring-420 - 1 month
|
|This. Wasn't gonna comment but then saw this comment.
|u/life359 - 1 month
|
|/r/afterandbefore
|u/pheret87 - 1 month
|
|It's /r/afterbeforewhatever
|u/Fizzypoptunes - 1 month
|
|Pisses me off
|u/Youju - 1 month
|
|I was like "wtf, that's a dowmgrade" until I saw your comment.
|u/fnv_fan - 1 month
|
|That looks quite good actually
|u/St_Sides - 1 month
|
|This pic does more to sell me on the remaster than any of the trailers
|did. Still not entirely sure it should even exist, but damn it does
|look like an actual remaster.
|u/DigitalSchism96 - 1 month
|
|It looks this good because it is a remake. They rebuilt the game
|from the ground up. A remaster would have kept the same assets and
|just touched them up. This distinction is important because when
|company A asks $60 for a remaster and Company B asks $40 for a
|remake you should be informed that company A is asking more money
|for something that took less effort to create. Want a real example?
|Nintendo wanted $60 for 3 remastered Mario games and Activision
|wanted $40 for 3 remade Spyro games. One of these companies was
|price-gouging you. Understanding the difference between remaster and
|remake tells you which one it was.
|u/Holo-Sama - 1 month
|
|Just wanted to say spyro is my childhood goat game and was happy
|it got some attention. I played it a while ago, and it still is a
|fantastic game for everyone.
|u/midnite_swim - 1 month
|
|Toys for Bob knocked it out of the park.
|u/YappyMcYapperson - 1 month
|
|Toys for Bob is a great developer, but my god, they went
|overboard with the difficulty in Crash 4
|u/brancrackrs - 1 month
|
|someday i’ll platinum Crash 4…someday
|u/Ch3353man - 1 month
|
|You sound like me telling myself that one day I'll play
|all the games that I own that I haven't played. I don't
|believe me and I don't believe you! But it helps to have
|dreams, right? Lol
|u/whats8 - 1 month
|
|I platinumed that game, but I lost my sanity as a result.
|u/DM-ME-THICC-FEMBOYS - 1 month
|
|Except those busted skateboard mechanics
|u/haidere36 - 1 month
|
|I'm still sad we'll never get a proper Spyro 4 from them the
|way we did Crash 4
|u/COD_ricochet - 1 month
|
|They’re amazing. I platinumed all 3 and all 3 Crash
|u/ItsSansom - 1 month
|
|That remake was like they plucked the nostalgia-filter right out
|of my mind and made it into reality. Like, while playing it I
|was thinking "This is JUST how I remember it!". Of course, the
|original is very much in the PS1 era graphically. My imagination
|as a child was just filling in the blanks
|u/Yonrak - 1 month
|
|>> spyro is my childhood goat game Pretty sure it was about
|dragons not goats... ...Sorry... I'll see myself out. Joking
|aside though, I'm the same for Crash Bandicoot, so I'm glad to
|see both series getting remakes. And Tony Hawk
|u/Howunbecomingofme - 1 month
|
|Well it did have more goats than most other games
|u/ThatITguy2015 - 1 month
|
|Goat Simulator would like a word. Satan goat will be
|stopping by soon.
|u/Drew326 - 1 month
|
|The fact that the sequel to *Goat Simulator* is called
|*Goat Simulator 3* will always be hilarious to me
|u/Howunbecomingofme - 1 month
|
|I did say most haha
|u/nyanlol - 1 month
|
|I just convinced my wife to get the remake for my step kid.
|Reasonably priced, a classic, and more importantly a LOT of game
|time
|u/lemonylol - 1 month
|
|One of my happiest gaming wishes was the Crash 1-3 remake, but
|on top of that getting Crash 4 that was just as good, 20 years
|later.
|u/phase2_engineer - 1 month
|
|> spyro is my childhood goat game I'm pretty sure he was a
|dragon, but I digress
|u/Rizenstrom - 1 month
|
|I know nothing about this game but just going off this one picture
|I’m not so sure about that. Just look at his collar for example.
|The shape is the EXACT same, every bend is in the exact same
|place. Every wrinkle in the fabric of his jacket too. To me this
|says new textures, same model. That’s usually seen in a
|remaster. Some stuff looks new. The hair and teeth seem like
|completely new models for example. The textures are definitely
|entirely new and not just upscaled. To me this seems more like a
|very high effort remaster than a complete remake. The line gets
|blurry here.
|u/Caelinus - 1 month
|
|They also apparently made story changes and altered the way the
|games camera works. It is also using Unreal 5, whereas the
|original was Decima. I think it probably qualifies as a remake.
|That is a lot of effort to put in. They are probably using the
|same meshes where they can, because a lot of the meshes are fine
|already and there is no reason to duplicate their work.
|u/droidtron - 1 month
|
|Decima powered both Horizon Zero Dawn and Death Stranding.
|It's great when you have the processing power.
|u/JonatasA - 1 month
|
|Source also has terrible movement to me and it powers
|Titanfall. It also depends on the studio working on it.
|u/gee_gra - 1 month
|
|Wasn’t Titanfall on a super modified version of the Source
|engine?
|u/Agret - 1 month
|
|Yes they totally remade the render pathline to get those
|amazing graphics out of it.
|u/Exponential_Rhythm - 1 month
|
|> Source also has terrible movement to me #BLASPHEMY
|u/zackdaniels93 - 1 month
|
|They also completely changed scene direction in some cases,
|the example shown was the setup prank opening scene had the
|characters moving and interacting completely differently.
|Definitely a remake.
|u/vash_visionz - 1 month
|
|One thing to note is that activision is only not price gouging us
|because they literally can’t. Spyro carries nowhere near the
|weight of Mario, and if it did, they would absolutely hit us for
|$60 for a slap dash remaster. None of these companies are our
|friends.
|u/you-are-not-yourself - 1 month
|
|In defense of Nintendo, Metroid Prime Remastered isn't a remake,
|but it's a masterclass in how to remaster a game.
|u/makinamiexe - 1 month
|
|to be fair, activision knew they couldnt charge more than that lol
|u/ob_knoxious - 1 month
|
|Even if they were largely just updated ports Mario 64 and Galaxy
|are (in most people's eyes) far superior games to any of the
|Spyro games. The reignited trilogy was great, but yeah
|Activision were right knowing Spyro games do not have the pull
|Mario games do.
|u/ICPosse8 - 1 month
|
|While the market is key here, I also think it’s important to note
|that some developers place different value on their work as
|opposed to others. I’ve heard the Factorio makers never plan on
|dropping its price because they believe it’s always going to be
|worth the original asking price. They’ve actually increased the
|base price of the game since its initial release iirc.
|u/Soaked_In_Bleach_93 - 1 month
|
|Spyro Reignited Trilogy was fantastic.
|u/davidcwilliams - 1 month
|
|That’s not price-gouging. It’s just more than you wanna pay.
|u/Retro_Vista - 1 month
|
|This pic is from the latest trailer
|u/mushychips - 1 month
|
|It exists because Sony are porting some of their old games to PC,
|with enhanced graphics and other features.
|u/ZXXII - 1 month
|
|PS5 and PC. Sony are still not done, Gravity Rush 2 Remastered
|was leaked to be next coinciding with the upcoming movie. That is
|only playable at 30fps on PS5 in Backwards Compatibility.
|u/TylerBourbon - 1 month
|
|I'm good with this. Some great PS games that I'd love to see come
|to PC. Hell, would love to see the Killzone trilogy come to PC,
|same with the Resistance trilogy.
|u/IsHeSkiing - 1 month
|
|Just gonna take a quick hit of my Bloodborne on PC copium and
|then cry for at least 3 minutes.
|u/DeadpooI - 1 month
|
|I thought it existed because they are making a movie based on the
|game?
|u/trainercatlady - 1 month
|
|also that. how is a movie going to work here? Most of the fun
|is making the decisions yourself.
|u/Yousoggyyojimbo - 1 month
|
|It's a really fantastic experience that was hampered by technical
|limitations and as a result, has a pretty choppy presentation. I
|think it definitely deserved a remake.
|u/False_Raven - 1 month
|
|Kinda dumb the original is on the right, at first I thought it looked
|worse until I realized it's presented backwards
|u/stone500 - 1 month
|
|Same! I thought this was another disappointing remaster where they
|just port it to the latest Unreal Engine with no modifications. But
|yeah this looks awesome
|u/psychoacer - 1 month
|
|I don't know, I think the director just kept asking for more detail
|like the guy from Supertrooper kept saying enhanced. It just looks
|like they added so much detail to his face to appease simple minded
|people
|u/CandidateOld1900 - 1 month
|
|How pretentious of you
|u/DangerousCyclone - 1 month
|
|Like it looks flashier and more difficult, but what is the scene
|supposed to be? The remaster looks like he has some filming light on
|him to high light his face whereas the original looks like they're in
|a muggy warehouse.
|u/mythrilcrafter - 1 month
|
|>The remaster looks like he has some filming light on him to high
|light his face whereas the original looks like they're in a muggy
|warehouse Spoiler for Until Dawn: >!Technically, it should be
|exactly both of those, because the game's first "killer" is actually
|just his mentally ill friend horrifically scaring the pants off
|everyone for the lulz and for youtube views. In the game you find
|out that the ill friend is actually a theater student or something
|and has access to all kinds of stage lighting, camera equipment, and
|other production tools!<.
|u/QuietObserver75 - 1 month
|
|>!His dad was a movie producer that's why he knows how to pull off
|the prank with all the production value. It was also revenge for
|the prank his friends played on his sister a year earlier.!<
|u/intimidation_crab - 1 month
|
|This is one of those weird situations where I thought they shouldn't
|waste their time remastering a game that still looks so good, but the
|remaster does look like it takes the game from "That looks good" to
|"Fuck, that looks great."
|u/_JustAnna_1992 - 1 month
|
|Especially considering I remember Until Dawn having amazing graphics
|last time I played. Then again, that's how i felt with Heavy Rain.
|u/Black_and_Purple - 1 month
|
|I'd appreciate the added detail, but the original feels like it has a
|denser atmosphere.
|u/LordNightsong - 1 month
|
|Was very confused at first because of the order of the pictures; was
|wondering why the original looked way better.
|u/Klientje123 - 1 month
|
|Before , After. The standard until recently. My theory is engagement
|is higher when the first thing people see is the new thing. Now it's
|always After, Before.
|u/BrandoCalrissian1995 - 1 month
|
|It's exactly that. Engagement bait.
|u/Pineapple-Yetti - 1 month
|
|Enragement bait.
|u/Mountainbranch - 1 month
|
|Welcome to the internet, come and take a seat...
|u/JonatasA - 1 month
|
|There are no seats, and we're all arced towards screens that
|aren't ergonomic.
|u/Pavlovs_Human - 1 month
|
|Plus you get more comments on your thread cause you got lots of
|people coming in to correct OP. Then there’s even more engagement
|cause people see that there’s discussion going on.
|u/UnamusedAF - 1 month
|
|Monetizing social media was a horrible mistake.
|u/davidisallright - 1 month
|
|I’ve noticed this trend in “glow ups” sub. Some people woood reverse
|it, making it confusing.
|u/MikeRocksTheBoat - 1 month
|
|Then there's the unfortunate "style change" before and afters on
|art subs where people would praise the artist's growth and
|abilities, only to be told they were praising the "before" picture
|u/DuckCleaning - 1 month
|
|r/afterbeforewhatever
|u/MindlessSponge - 1 month
|
|there's a sub for it - /r/AfterBeforeWhatever
|u/tatsumakisempukyaku - 1 month
|
|my pet hate, especially with weight loss progress photos.
|u/Freeballin523523 - 1 month
|
|It literally says which is which....fucking read
|u/ilmalocchio - 1 month
|
|Honestly, if I had to choose the one which looks more real at first
|glance, it'd be the one on the right.
|u/siriston - 1 month
|
|r/afterbeforewhatever
|u/BigBen6500 - 1 month
|
|r/thereisasubforthat
|u/Alugar - 1 month
|
|As someone who couldn’t play the original and had to watch it through
|lets play on YouTube. I’m actually starting to look forward to
|this.
|u/Mistersinister1 - 1 month
|
|I started it a few times and stopped playing it, never was a huge fan
|of those virtual movie type games but finally sat down one day started
|getting into and just kept taking interesting turns. Quite a solid
|game for the genre. A really good horror game.
|u/Yousoggyyojimbo - 1 month
|
|It makes for a great Halloween event to get a few people over and
|assign everybody one or two characters and passing the controller
|around whenever the game shifts to that character.
|u/Yarael-Poof - 1 month
|
|Damn that sounds like a blast. Wish I had friends...
|u/Yousoggyyojimbo - 1 month
|
|To be completely straightforward, I've only gotten people to do
|this one time and I've been wanting to get them to do it again
|for years and haven't been able to make it happen. This and
|all of the dark pictures, anthology games, the quarry, are all
|phenomenal for this.
|u/Caboose127 - 1 month
|
|I do this with my friends every Halloween with the Dark Pictures
|Anthology. They're the only games my wife likes playing. We'll
|have to revisit this one this year.
|u/notagiantturtle - 1 month
|
|the wolf among us is also good if you're willing to try more of
|these games
|u/Mistersinister1 - 1 month
|
|I tried that one after the walking dead but couldn't really get
|into it. Walking dead was an emotional rollercoaster.
|u/notagiantturtle - 1 month
|
|walking dead is really great as well, at least the first couple.
|that's fair, I thought using fairy tale characters was kind of a
|fun twist considering how dark the content is
|u/Duosion - 1 month
|
|Loved the game! I’m chickenshit so it is a miracle I managed to play
|thru once and save 2. I had a craving to try again but my heart did
|not let me.
|u/get_your_mood_right - 1 month
|
|I still regularly rewatch Northernlion’s play through. It’s so damn
|good and funny. I rewatch every year or 2
|u/Oracle_of_Knowledge - 1 month
|
|Same, but I watch Scary Game Squad's play (Jesse Cox, Alex, Davis,
|Jirard). Dodger and Strippin' did a playthrough too that's good.
|u/ShmebulocksMistress - 1 month
|
|I’m a huge fan of the game, so I’m excited that this remake will
|potentially pull new players like you in!
|u/5xad0w - 1 month
|
|Same. I've only seen Funhaus play it... poorly.
|u/Pitiful_Yogurt_5276 - 1 month
|
|It’s ok. I recommend waiting for a deep sale. I played it on PS4
|recently and while entertaining enough, it wasn’t iconic or
|spectacular.
|u/JonatasA - 1 month
|
|How old is this game? I remember gsmeplay of it on YouTube. &nbsp;
|Similar to Papers, Please, that now is.. **9 years old.** &nbsp;
|Edit: Papers, Please is actually 11 years old. HOW?!
|u/Randyaccredit - 1 month
|
|Same and best markiplier I'd say
|u/your_mind_aches - 1 month
|
|Same!!! Let's hope Sony actually allows me to buy it.
|u/PM_ME_MICHAEL_STIPE - 1 month
|
|Same here. I love watching people play this game and I loved the
|SnapCube joke dub. Looking forward to finally playing it for myself.
|u/NBD_Pearen - 1 month
|
|“Original vs Remaster” but then puts the photos opposite.
|u/Vandrel - 1 month
|
|It got you to comment, that's why they do it.
|u/Greywacky - 1 month
|
|Said grind for diminishing returns began over a decade ago. I'd gp
|further back than 8th gen myself. Yeah, we've had significant
|improvements in grapical fidelity but they have seldom added anything
|to either immersion or the quality of the mechanics of gameplay.
|I've said this for over a decade now but imo when we're truly immersed
|and enjoying a game those graphics take backseat to the action and/ or
|story, though the graphics and design can certainly date a game.
|u/Greywacky - 1 month
|
|Agreed. Not to knock the efforts of more prestigeous studios of th
|earlier gens but 7th gen was really when the tech was more
|standardised and ubiquitous. The visuals of those games are
|still a far cry (seriously no pun intendted there) from what we
|expect today but it was around that time that we began ascending
|the peak of graphical performance, I feel at least. In most
|instances everything since is just window dressing unless you're
|particularly clued in on the tech driving these advances.
|u/USTrustfundPatriot - 1 month
|
|god how I fucking hate when the "before" pic is second
|u/Retro_Vista - 1 month
|
|To the people asking why is this being remade, it's because they are
|porting it to PC and it's being made by a new studio with former
|developers of the original and it's their first project to get the
|studio off the ground It's being remade in a new engine, the last one
|was dated and clearly had tech issues in the original as it was
|originally going to be a PS3 Move game There is also a movie being made
|amd this will allow new players a chance to play a more up to date
|version with a non fixed camera and much better graphics
|u/That_Smol_Bean - 1 month
|
|>it's their first project to get the studio off the ground That's
|actually quite nice to hear. I was expecting it to be a "big studio
|easy cash grab" but to know that it was made by the original
|developers as a chance to kickstart a new business venture sounds
|awesome.
|u/ThaUnderboss - 1 month
|
|>It was originally going to be a PS3 Move game. Biggest bullet-dodge
|of all time.
|u/johnsonjared - 1 month
|
|Have they stated anywhere that they're removing the fixed camera? I
|thought that was more a stylistic choice of the genre than a
|limitation. Edit: Nevermind I just watched the Comparison trailer,
|there does seem to be a new camera control mechanic so that's cool.
|u/Retro_Vista - 1 month
|
|Yeah they say this on the Playstation blog >By using a combination
|of fixed and over-the-shoulder camera views, you can now see the
|world of Until Dawn from entirely new perspectives. Blending the
|cinematography of the original with the introduction of a modern
|third-person camera, we hope to bring new life to characters and
|locations. The camera’s flexibility allows us to place new emphasis
|on important moments and tell the story from a view closer to the
|characters.
|u/BobaddyBobaddy - 1 month
|
|Oh God, he’s even more handsome!
|u/DigitalSchism96 - 1 month
|
|Not to be pedantic but... its a remake. Not a remaster. They rebuilt
|the game from the ground up. A remaster keeps the same assets and just
|touches them up.
|u/BrandoCalrissian1995 - 1 month
|
|Idk if I would consider that being pedantic. People commonly use them
|interchangeably when they refer to two different ways to re do a game.
|Edit: was my comment not clear or is your guys reading comprehension
|that bad? I said it's NOT PEDANTIC to correct people for using it
|interchangeably. Which means it's the right thing to do to correct the
|usage.
|u/BrandoCalrissian1995 - 1 month
|
|I know that's why I'm telling op he's not bein pedantic for
|correcting the incorrect usage. People incorrectly use them
|interchangeably.
|u/discretelandscapes - 1 month
|
|I can say "I could care less" and you'll understand what I meant to
|say, but I still said the wrong thing.
|u/FILTHBOT4000 - 1 month
|
|No, they usually don't, and they shouldn't. Think of it in terms of
|music albums. Remake = you are remaking the album. That would mean
|re-recording, as in doing it all from scratch. Remaster = you are
|remastering the album, as in reworking sound from the original raw
|source to make a new master recording.
|u/Pworldwide - 1 month
|
|Does this mean they did the mo-cap again? Like brought the actors
|back?
|u/Swiperrr - 1 month
|
|Nah, its more of a remake in the sense they rebuilt the code and
|levels in a whole new engine from scratch. They transferred over the
|voice lines, mocap data and some 3D models from the original.
|u/livemau5_01 - 1 month
|
|Not really. A lot of models and assets can simply be exported and used
|in differing engines. Of course they likely improved them too but I
|doubt they started it all from scratch.
|u/DigitalSchism96 - 1 month
|
|"Immerse yourself in a gripping slasher horror **rebuilt from the
|ground up** with stunning visuals in Unreal Engine 5" Their own
|words. Sure you can port things from one engine to another and
|reuse some assets but at the end of the day a remaster will keep as
|many assets as possible and simply enhance them while a remake will
|rebuild them. It's as simple as that.
|u/sometipsygnostalgic - 1 month
|
|It's proven elsewhere in this thread that it's absolutely not a
|ground up remake. In fact I think that's obvious from looking at
|these two images.
|u/Nastyburrito666 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, his jacket collar hasn't even gained a single polygon, so
|I'm pretty sure his character model is just ported and
|retextured
|u/Nozinger - 1 month
|
|A remake that had been completely redone from scratch also
|would not have the exact same scene with the exact same pose
|to begin with as the entire position and movement data for the
|sene composition would also have been redone.
|u/cherry_chocolate_ - 1 month
|
|Redoing the mo cap and performances is exceptionally rare.
|Plenty of bonafide remakes use the original animations, and
|frankly keeping the original performances of the actors is
|preferred imo.
|u/sometipsygnostalgic - 1 month
|
|this is correct, but a "ground up" remake implies it's
|"ground up" when clearly it's not if so much of the
|original code is the same an example of a true remake
|would be the spyro remastered trilogy. it's called a
|remaster because the game is still the same story wise and
|gameplay wise but pretty much everything in there has been
|remade. the way spyro moves and the enemies move does not
|resemble the original, and i believe all of the voice work
|was redone too. it's got a different source code. same
|for resident evil 2 though in that case it's a completely
|different game. whereas the example here is more of a
|traditional, perhaps thorough remaster, like shadow of the
|colossus.
|u/Caelinus - 1 month
|
|Also "Just port it to a new engine" is sort of
|[this](https://i.imgur.com/rCr9A.png) in real life. Yeah you can
|port over models, but you can't just copy paste over your code and
|expect it to work.
|u/photomotto - 1 month
|
|Yakuza Kiwami famously kept the face animations from the original
|PS2 Yakuza 1. It resulted in some very weird faces, let me tell you.
|u/SoupMaid - 1 month
|
|i wanna see the remastered wendigos sooooooo bad omg
|u/BunnyBen-87 - 1 month
|
|they were so scary in the dark but looked a little silly (especially
|in the face) when illuminated, so I wonder how they'll look
|chances are those won't be shown in a trailer though
|u/Arrow_ - 1 month
|
|When did we start doing right to left for comparisons.
|u/long-live-apollo - 1 month
|
|Put. The. New. Ones. On. The. RIGHT.
|u/Com412 - 1 month
|
|That looks really good, face have way more detail
|u/stonebraker_ultra - 1 month
|
|seems a bit overdone
|u/sophiepritch5 - 1 month
|
|‘’It’s ToO GoOd’ 🙄 ya truly can’t please everyone
|u/Gyro_Zeppeli13 - 1 month
|
|After and before
|u/dishonoredfan69420 - 1 month
|
|is that Agent Ward from Agents of SHIELD?
|u/zslayer89 - 1 month
|
|It’s grant ward. He can shoot the legs off of a flea.
|u/Uhhh_Insert_Username - 1 month
|
|"I'm Agent Grant Ward. I just jumped out of an airplane without a
|parachute to save your life" 😂
|u/Nach0z - 1 month
|
|That's kinda cracked actually
|u/Alesisdrumuser - 1 month
|
|Sweet, I played that game alone in the dark and its vibe is scary as F
|u/Kurovi_dev - 1 month
|
|The remaster pic looks over produced as hell. I’m kinda over remasters
|doing this. It looks like there’s a spotlight hitting him from the
|right, and all of the subtle light and shadow qualities of the original
|are gone. He’s disconnected from the scene, and there’s a very
|artificial look about it. Despite the increased lighting effects and
|deeper contrast between light and shadow in the remaster, the face’s
|materials come across as much more fake and with less depth. There also
|appears to be some subsurface scattering in the image on the right,
|whereas that appears to be absent in the left image, which if these are
|labeled correctly would be…a choice I guess. A very bad one for a modern
|game, but a choice nonetheless. I honestly much prefer the overall
|quality and direction of the image on the right than the artificiality
|of the image on the left.
|u/JoshJLMG - 1 month
|
|Thank you for explaining my thoughts better than I could. Also, the
|teeth look unnatural, and overall it just seems too perfect. Same way
|cars look super obvious in games, the lighting and tires are too
|perfect.
|u/DiurnalMoth - 1 month
|
|The remaster image looks like an actor in makeup, rather than a real
|person with dirt on his face, at least to me.
|u/sharplight141 - 1 month
|
|Ok but why are the pictures the wrong way round?
|u/zunyata - 1 month
|
|You had one job OP
|u/BuddyLeeVaughn - 1 month
|
|what the fuck is with After and Before. It's *Before* then *After*.
|u/zarafff69 - 1 month
|
|I mean there is a big difference in this picture, but the difference is
|probably going to be even bigger in the actual game, if you can see
|multiple frames after each other.
|u/audioIX - 1 month
|
|There is a [new trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqRr_B76u9o)
|out that I assume provoked this post. The older [State of
|Play](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_rZYVoiLlE) reveal had some
|iffy looking "upgrades" that were scaring fans. It looks a lot better
|now.
|u/PM_ME_MICHAEL_STIPE - 1 month
|
|I'll add that people were also iffy because they just announced a
|movie that will be called Until Dawn but reportedly won't have
|anything to do with this story or characters.
|u/Samsterdam - 1 month
|
|Who puts the new image first and then the old, who hurt you?
|u/1leggeddog - 1 month
|
|That looks quite good
|u/Psycholm - 1 month
|
|It's funny that the left side is how I remember it looking back when it
|originally came out
|u/JaesopPop - 1 month
|
|I feel like this happens a lot. People don’t play a game for a long
|time and they remember it looking a lot better. I’ve had that happen
|several times.
|u/MessageMePuppies - 1 month
|
|Potentially unpopular opinion: original looks better
|u/Gabe7494 - 1 month
|
|I’m glad I’m not alone thinking this. The remake has more going on but
|when I zoom in it just looks too fake.
|u/pulyx - 1 month
|
|I think it looks worse in every way except texture quality. It erased
|the photorealistic atmosphere Now it looks just like any runofthemill
|videogame
|u/FrazzledBear - 1 month
|
|Based on the comments it seems we’re in the minority but I’m with you
|except I think some of the textures are really inconsistent too. Just
|looking at the face , the textures look all smeared in spots, same
|with parts of his jacket.
|u/Biernar - 1 month
|
|Yeah. Right pic looks like a shot from a film if you squint, left
|looks like...a video game.
|u/pulyx - 1 month
|
|Strange art direction, to totally change a game's very recognizable
|lighting. It's like slapping a cool blue filter on MGS3
|u/AerMage - 1 month
|
|hard agree, bro looks like he’s slathered in ‘dirt’ makeup and gazing
|directly at a yellow ringlight, the original is much more atmospheric
|and feels cold and dark like it should
|u/dandaman1983 - 1 month
|
|I agree. From this screenshot, the older one looks better to me. The
|new one doesn't even look like the actor.
|u/DarthNihilus - 1 month
|
|Remasters nearly always end up losing a chunk of the art direction
|from the original in favour of "more light, more shiny". Oh well.
|u/frostygrin - 1 month
|
|Crysis 2 is an exception. I started playing it - and thought, "Wow,
|there's so much bloom and other effects" - but when you compare,
|they actually turned it all down, compared to the original. A lot.
|u/DeneralVisease - 1 month
|
|His hair looks huge to me now
|u/pulyx - 1 month
|
|They absolutely butchered the lighting. It looks like an acrylic
|painting now.
|u/Good_ApoIIo - 1 month
|
|I was going to join the downvotes and call you crazy but when you
|put it like that...yeah I see it.
|u/andrechan - 1 month
|
|Is that Edward from Twilight
|u/Syrupy_ - 1 month
|
|He looks like he's gotta sneeze lmao he looks sick or concussed. I
|can't tell when in the game this is but for the remaster's sake I hope
|its the end. It looks like a cartoon bomb blew up in his face lol he
|looks dehydrated and emaciated OK I gotta stop. The old one is lower
|quality but at least he looks healthy. Also that dude is way too
|sweaty for a windy, snowy mountaintop. Cant wait to play it though
|haha
|u/TheSigma3 - 1 month
|
|Yeah its lost that movie like softness the original had. This looks
|over tuned. The damage on the collar doesn't looks like proper wear
|now, it's been touched up but without thought to the original vision
|u/AtrumRuina - 1 month
|
|Agreed. I barely recognize the actor here.
|u/FootFetish0-3 - 1 month
|
|I actually like the original better. Resolution is better than the
|original, but why does the remaster look like he's made of shiny
|plastic?
|u/JonatasA - 1 month
|
|Cheeky son you placed the remaster to the left.
|u/Stickel - 1 month
|
|original vs remaster, AND YOU PUT THE REMASTER ON THE LEFT!?!?1? FUCK
|THIS TREND
|u/Redneckalligator - 1 month
|
|I mean its impressive but the old graphics were fine, did we need this?
|u/tommycahil1995 - 1 month
|
|Very nice... let's see Rami Malek's remastered face
|u/ItsATravelingDude - 1 month
|
|Bro this Remaster is about to be SICK
|u/wordswillneverhurtme - 1 month
|
|But its the same story so I have 0 interest. Good for new players I
|guess.
|u/mizvixen - 1 month
|
|Why is it bothering me so much that the remaster pic is on the left, but
|on the title it’s on the right.
|u/Cannibale_Ballet - 1 month
|
|Before goes on the left, and after on the right. It's not that
|difficult.
|u/TypicalKiwiCunt - 1 month
|
|What maniac goes right to left
|u/AlexStavru - 1 month
|
|Was just thinking the same thing.
|u/Fishbowl_Super - 1 month
|
|God damn, wow
|u/Smart_Tourist_693 - 1 month
|
|I can’t wait for this
|u/TGB_Skeletor - 1 month
|
|And here i was thinking videogame graphics peaked 10 years ago
|u/Bobo3076 - 1 month
|
|Fucking hell that actually looks way better The fact that I’m surprised
|by that really does paint a picture of how disappointedly unchanged a
|lot of these remasters are.
|u/RybatGrimes - 1 month
|
|Hoooooo baby. My MAN. 😍
|u/Kataratz - 1 month
|
|Shit might actually be good
|u/Traditional-Cry-1722 - 1 month
|
|Thast not a remaster, when will people learn which is which
|u/misterchubz - 1 month
|
|Holy carp!
|u/Tenabrus - 1 month
|
|The remaster screenshot almost looks life like the detail is really well
|done
|u/SasparillaTango - 1 month
|
|"why is until dawn getting a remaster it was release like last year?"
|Until Dawn release date: 2015
|u/blue_terry - 1 month
|
|This game has a special tug on my heart, can’t wait for the playthroughs
|u/ResolveGood - 1 month
|
|And there are still gonna be those who will try to argue that there is
|barely a difference and it was all for nothing. "pS2 gRaPhiCs!"
|u/Capable-Bother1677 - 1 month
|
|Glad he still looks like a middle-aged man. I was worried the remaster
|would make the teenage characters look like actual teenagers.
|u/throwaway666000666 - 1 month
|
|The most pointless upgrade. The original still holds up graphically.
|u/cupcakemann95 - 1 month
|
|how about putting original and remaster on the same side as the title,
|or did a bot make this post
|u/TrustYerGut - 1 month
|
|Why the fuck does anybody ever but a before picture on the right side ??
|Infuriating. I need a life.
|u/MayorAdamWest1 - 1 month
|
|Whoever made this is backwards
|u/Vastlymoist666 - 1 month
|
|Holy shit talk about a glow up. The OG impressed me I'll have to get the
|remaster when that drops
|u/Atwalol - 1 month
|
|Personally I think remaking a game that's not even 10 years old and
|still looks good is a complete waste of time and resources
|u/DamageInc35 - 1 month
|
|It’s a remake, not a remaster.
|u/scrillex099 - 1 month
|
|they're just different. I can't say that one of them is better than
|another
|u/BEN064-W - 1 month
|
|The original looked great. What's with companies obsessing over
|remastering games that don't need it?
|u/Admirable_Try_23 - 1 month
|
|The one on the right looks better
|u/SkadiQuickMetaMemer - 1 month
|
|Why does this game need a remaster?
|u/Wizardc438 - 1 month
|
|r/AfterBeforeWhatever
|u/BenShealoch - 1 month
|
|It never needed to be remastered
|u/Retro_Vista - 1 month
|
|The game is getting ported to PC and the original had many tech
|problems and would be on an outdated engine by now. It's being remade
|by a newly formed studio doing their first project
|u/HiddenSquid04 - 1 month
|
|I wonder the story is recently the same, or if they’ll change it a bit
|to make it a semi new experience
|u/droidtron - 1 month
|
|Emily still a bitch. Only remastered now.
|u/Stef2016 - 1 month
|
|I believe they have said that there's some new locations, more
|collectibles to find and that they have expanded the story with some
|new scenes & stuff.
|u/Serious_Course_3244 - 1 month
|
|Oh damn hold up, I may actually get this
|u/Cold-Jackfruit1076 - 1 month
|
|Why do I get Matt LeBlanc vibes from this picture?
|u/Zooks15 - 1 month
|
|You mean remaster vs original? Fuck me people don’t understand the order
|of things on this website
|u/COD_ricochet - 1 month
|
|I’m ready for this, The Casting of Frank Stone and Silent Hill 2 Remake
|u/SgtBagels12 - 1 month
|
|Oh god he’s *hotter*
|u/Locked_and_Popped - 1 month
|
|The format should always be "before" **THEN** "after".
|u/TheHawaiianDino - 1 month
|
|Remaster got that young Ash Williams energy
|u/richboyadler - 1 month
|
|cannot wait to play this remaster !
|u/Thebluespirit20 - 1 month
|
|DAMN , thats actually a remaster
|u/Porn_Extra - 1 month
|
|Who puts the before picture on the right and the aft3r picture on the
|left?
|u/HarioDinio - 1 month
|
|Now who puts the before as the second image?!
|u/ModestMarksman - 1 month
|
|Is it releasing on PC?
|u/LEDDITmodsARElosers - 1 month
|
|Never played this game but that's what a remaster should look like.
|u/RealisticlyNecessary - 1 month
|
|Can't wait to shoot Jimmy the Talking Padlock again.
|u/EnvironmentalTear402 - 1 month
|
|Pretty fire. I like how more disheveled and dirty he looks in the
|remaster. His eyes also portray his emotions a little better. Damn I
|might have to replay this game, I only played it once back when it came
|out
|u/Jfonzy - 1 month
|
|Could the same amount of effort be put into a new game?
|u/ejwaterpolotheatrguy - 1 month
|
|IS THIS THE SAMW GUY WHO PLAYS GRANT WARD HELLO
|u/fake_zack - 1 month
|
|Besides the obvious graphical upgrade, it really bothers me that the
|color tone has been so drastically changed from spooky green and blue to
|warm comfortable colors.
|u/XTheProtagonistX - 1 month
|
|I was thinking that the Old one looks a lot better…then I realize that
|OP fucked up.
|u/Bounciere - 1 month
|
|You mean Remaster vs Original
|u/BaronVonMunchhausen - 1 month
|
|Ja, ja, ja, ja Enrique Iglesias One love, one love
|u/Repulsive-Hunt9202 - 1 month
|
|I'd get a boner looking at remastered version
|u/ComplexAd346 - 1 month
|
|Is this one of those movie games?
|u/opensaysme - 1 month
|
|The placement order of these photos makes me unreasonably angry.
|u/JessicaLain - 1 month
|
|Kinda went nuts with the shine tool...
|u/SnooChipmunks8362 - 1 month
|
|Oh that looks amazing
|u/Even-Internal-5894 - 1 month
|
|I mean Im not all for remaster but if the shit looks amazing then it’s
|at least one thing going for it lmao
|u/DarkWarrior16594 - 1 month
|
|It's The Witness! 👽
|u/MiddletonPlays - 1 month
|
|Mike looks so good!😍
|u/Kaneshadow - 1 month
|
|Looks like James Deen
|u/Chasingtheimprobable - 1 month
|
|Fuck now THATS a remaster
|u/Acceptable-Baker5282 - 1 month
|
|Original looks better sorry
|u/shewy92 - 1 month
|
|Why do people put the "after"/old pic before the "before"/new pic
|u/Foxthefox1000 - 1 month
|
|He looks way hotter now
|u/Educational_Camel_32 - 1 month
|
|Any word on a coop mode like the other games?
|u/ZarosGuardian - 1 month
|
|I was about to be like "the hell do you mean, that looks WAY worse!"
|then I realized the remaster was on the left side.
|u/davidmatthew1987 - 1 month
|
|Slash r slash before after whatever
|u/ghigoli - 1 month
|
|Honestly i wish they made an Until Dawn 2 instead of a remaster.
|u/Pretend-Archer-3959 - 1 month
|
|When does this come out on the ps5?
|u/Osypi - 1 month
|
|??? The one on the right looks WAY better, imo.
|u/Believe0017 - 1 month
|
|The amount of comments and attention this post is getting is just proof
|how beloved this game isS
|u/gigamesh090 - 1 month
|
|but wheres bloodborne tho
|u/VaginaTheClown - 1 month
|
|You guys. Before on the left and then after on the right. Figure it the
|fuck out.
|u/200O2 - 1 month
|
|Why do people ever make these things out of order
|u/Animal31 - 1 month
|
|Remaster vs Original*
|u/fleebjuice69420 - 1 month
|
|How are people still dumb enough to constantly get the simple concept of
|“Before and After” wrong??? It’s all the time it’s insane
|u/Newwave221 - 1 month
|
|Why is it backwards you fool
|u/Cpt_Polander - 1 month
|
|I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I think the original picture looks
|better. The remastered version looks overproduced and fake.
|u/saturn_since_day1 - 1 month
|
|Am I the only one that thinks the original looks real and the one on the
|left looks like a game with too much gloss?
|u/OmiNya - 1 month
|
|Who the fuck puts original to the right? Ah, yes, op does
|u/homer_3 - 1 month
|
|who puts after first?
|u/melatonin1212 - 1 month
|
|Does anyone know if there are changes to the game, like the choices you
|make and how they affect the plot, or any other changes other than the
|look of it? I loved the original.
|u/BigBen6500 - 1 month
|
|It looks beautiful, but still, I couldn't imagine a worse choice for
|remastering a game... The original still looks good (sometimes the fps
|is horrendous though), and I can't think of any gameplay mechanichs that
|are in a dire need of an upgrade
|u/Selfie-starved - 1 month
|
|This doesn’t justify its existence.
|u/Refflet - 1 month
|
|Ffs put the pictures the right way round.
|u/vitaminkombat - 1 month
|
|Why do all these remasters look so shiny? It is like every surface
|texture has baby oil on it. I noticed it on the Resident Evil remake
|too.
|u/callmeabrix - 1 month
|
|This looks cool
|u/Romantic_Legion - 1 month
|
|Man looks like he just finished working the coal mines.
|u/bugmush - 1 month
|
|I know everyone's saying how good it looks, but I think they overdid it
|with all the dirt/grime and grease on the face...and probably the
|shadows.
|u/jacksonpsterninyay - 1 month
|
|Oh I adore this game. Hell yeah.
|u/austinite89 - 1 month
|
|Hail Hydra.
|u/9999_lifes - 1 month
|
|Original looks more realistic, remastered looks sharper.
|u/beardobreado - 1 month
|
|Ok remaster is worse than og
|u/EggOnLegs99 - 1 month
|
|That game was fantastic.
|u/Nincompoop6969 - 1 month
|
|Graphics weren't bad it was frame rate. 
|u/OkWestern7422 - 1 month
|
|That remaster looks sexy as fuck boi.
|u/More-Economy1122 - 1 month
|
|He became a lot beautiful
|u/imaloony8 - 1 month
|
|My god you’re greasy.
|u/StickyBandit_ - 1 month
|
|OP... you need to explain yourself...  You wrote in the title original
|vs remaster... And then you put the REMASTER BEFORE THE ORIGINAL. 
|Why? How? I have to know what was going through your head when you did
|that. And do you frequently fuck up simple tasks in life? 
|u/1996Primera - 1 month
|
|Sorry off topic.. Is this a reddit issue or a person issue But
|every time I see a before and after post the images are always in the
|wrong order.....ie  After is first and before is second
|u/Lord_Ka1n - 1 month
|
|Why are we remastering single generation old games?
|u/PolygonTreehouse - 1 month
|
|I kinda prefer the look of the original
|u/Trickybuz93 - 1 month
|
|The lighting makes him look plastic
|u/NeoKorean - 1 month
|
|Looks good, but I mean why not just make a sequel at this point...
|u/Crylose - 1 month
|
|The Quarry was supposed to be Until Dawn 2 but Sony dropped it and
|Supermassive changed the title cause they don't own the IP
|u/Retro_Vista - 1 month
|
|There are spiritual successors. This is being made by a newly formed
|studio that has devs that worked on the original. This is their first
|project. It allows them to make get experience. It will also release
|on PC for PC players to be able to play and have an up to date version
|for the Until Dawn movie that's being made
|u/BrandoCalrissian1995 - 1 month
|
|Ik it's engagement bait and I'm falling for it, but can yall please get
|it through your thick fuckin skulls that BEFORE goes on THE LEFT. FUCK.
|Also it's a remake not a remaster.
|u/jfazz_squadleader - 1 month
|
|Damn near photo-real. It's an interactive experience more than a game,
|but still, damn good looking.
|u/Dear-Tax-7025 - 1 month
|
|Some new games would be nice tho
|u/Doogiesham - 1 month
|
|Why would you put the after picture before the before picture 😭
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