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TIL that during Hurricane Camille in 1969, the rainfall in Virgina was |
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so heavy that birds drowned in trees and people had to cup hands around |
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their face to breathe. According to the weather service, it was the |
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probable maximum rainfall which meteorologists compute to be |
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theoretically possible. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Camille#Virginia (https://en.wikipedia.org) |
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|u/le_goalie - 1 month |
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|TIL Mother Nature will straight up waterboard you if she’s in the mood. |
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|u/helgestrichen - 1 month |
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|Enhanced Irrigation |
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|u/iowaisflat - 1 month |
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|Doesn’t really seem like an effective technique though, has some |
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|major flaws. |
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|You just want the terrornithologists to win. ^^I ^^admit, ^^that |
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|^^was ^^a ^^stretch. |
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|u/0neLetter - 1 month |
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|Some times you just have to go overboard to get the results you |
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|want. |
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|u/TurtleneckTrump - 1 month |
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|No no, she will straight up drown you apparently. Poor birds, that's |
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|fucking insane |
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|u/Profreadsalot - 1 month |
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|Drowning in the rain. New fear, unlocked. |
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|u/lurker_101 - 1 month |
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|**Beryl was only** Cat 1 or 2 and did this as the eye passed over *.. |
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|like a solid waterfall for about a half hour .. 30 miles inland and |
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|the rainwater built up around a foot almost reaching the front porch* |
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|.. even a "small one" has tornados .. found quite a few trees with |
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|split trunks afterward .. so lucky it was not a 4 or worse |
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|u/Likemypups - 1 month |
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|So, how MUCH did it rain? |
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|u/Kharn0 - 1 month |
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|Officially 27 inches but unofficial reports almost 40” in 12 hours as |
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|most gauges washed away. Some bursts were 5 inches in 30 mins |
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|u/hippee-engineer - 1 month |
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|The world record for 24hr rainfall total is 43” in Alvin, TX. Home |
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|of Nolan Ryan. Unrelated. |
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|u/pudding7 - 1 month |
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|> Unrelated. You can't know that. |
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|u/hippee-engineer - 1 month |
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|Fair. |
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|u/ikeepwipingSTILLPOOP - 1 month |
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|Has anyone ever seen Nolan Ryan and Hurricane Camille in the |
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|same room at the same time? |
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|u/ParaNormalBeast - 1 month |
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|Once, in ‘83. But I was just Nolan in the room |
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|u/Prize-Can4849 - 1 month |
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|Robin Ventura saw them both at the same time. |
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|He commandeth the sky to pour down; sort of how he rained down |
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|punches on that dude's head when he charged the mound. |
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|u/benchley - 1 month |
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|Robin Ventura? |
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|robin ventura |
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|I'm also unrelated to Nolan Ryan |
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|Distant cousin. Texas, too, so they *think* everything’s |
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|bigger. |
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|u/tenoclockrobot - 1 month |
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|[This data from NOAA](https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monitoring/ |
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|scec/records/all/maxp) says Hawaii had a record of 49.69" [And |
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|this from the WMO](https://wmo.int/asu- |
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|map?original_nid=21824&map=Rain_081&book=21486) says the world |
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|record is 71.8" |
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|u/shnikeys22 - 1 month |
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|That world record is from a place called Foc Foc. I assumed it |
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|got the name because people said “Foc, that’s a lot of rain” |
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|u/tenoclockrobot - 1 month |
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|Interestingly, according to same NOAA source the (non- |
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|tropics*) world record may be from PA: >Arguably the greatest |
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|24-hour rainfall on record outside of the tropics occurred |
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|around Smethport, PA on July 17, 1942. A post-event survey by |
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|the Weather Bureau provided a widely accepted maximum storm |
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|rainfall of 34.50 inches within a 12 hour period, of which an |
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|estimated 30.60 inches fell in just 6 hours. ***30.6" in 6 |
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|hours*** is fucking nuts |
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|I would probably think the world was ending |
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|u/elavil4you - 1 month |
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|They moved from Phuket and wanted a simpler name so decided to |
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|just go with Foc. |
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|u/Successful-Lobster90 - 1 month |
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|Mt Bartle Frere had 2000mm in 24hrs, but the only reference I |
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|can find for it is Wikipedia. |
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|u/SweetEuneirophrenia - 1 month |
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|Ha! I'm originally from Galveston and whenever I think of Alvin I |
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|also automatically think "Home of Nolan Ryan", plus having worked |
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|in Lake Jackson I think of 288 as Nolan Ryan Expressway. |
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|u/Nv1023 - 1 month |
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|Even Chuck Norris calls it Nolan Ryan Expressway! Respect |
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|Outside ofFacebook and the brain eating amoeba we had back in |
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|2020? 2021? I have NEVER seen Lake Jackson mentioned by another |
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|human being on the internet. My condolences. (I'm still in the |
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|area) |
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|u/hippee-engineer - 1 month |
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|Pearland over here, but I used to stay on 12@ Winnie in |
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|Galveston. |
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|u/SweetEuneirophrenia - 1 month |
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|Oh shit, Winnie. I hadn't thought of Winnie in years upon |
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|years. When I was a kid we'd hit the ferry and go past Winnie |
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|on our way to Port Arthur. We used to get excited because it |
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|meant we were less than a half hour away. |
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|u/hippee-engineer - 1 month |
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|You mean the ferry traffic backed up all the way to Winnie, |
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|and it was 30 minutes for the line to move all the way to |
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|the ferry? |
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|u/SweetEuneirophrenia - 1 month |
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|You just unlocked a childhood memory of me waiting so long |
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|for the ferry one summer that I just decided to pee right |
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|there on the back seat. Luckily it wasn't our car, but a |
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|cop car. Our car had been knocked off the road somewhere |
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|in crystal beach. |
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|u/That47Dude - 1 month |
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|I was @ ferry/post office. Ppl would often be waiting for |
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|hours, not 30 mins, to get by my street- especially slab |
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|weekend and the jeep weirdos. Died down a lot once they |
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|made the parking for Stewart beach not a constant tide |
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|pool. |
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|I love Galveston as much as I love the big women of San Antonio! |
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|u/Likemypups - 1 month |
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|Far enough south and near the Gulf coast to be hurricane related. |
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|u/hippee-engineer - 1 month |
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|It was hurricane related. The one in 1969 iirc. |
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|2004? |
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|u/hippee-engineer - 1 month |
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|Nah I think it was back in 1969 or so. I grew up a short drive |
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|from there, and remember reading it in a 1997 Guinness book. |
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|Fun Nolan Ryan fact! Not only does Tyan have the career record for |
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|most strikeouts, he also holds the record for most walks! |
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|Subscribe for more MLB trivia! |
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|Source? Because most records for rain come from La Reunion: Most |
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|in 24 hours (1 day): 1,825 mm (71.9 in); Cilaos, Réunion, 7–8 |
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|January 1966, during Tropical Cyclone Denise. |
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|lol no its 1825mm (71.8 inches) on Réunion island USA is not the |
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|That's biblical levels of rain |
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|My wife is gonna have to start calling me Hurricane Camille |
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|u/NotSayinItWasAliens - 1 month |
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|It was 5" in 30 mins, not 3" in 2 mins. |
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|Got ‘em. |
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|Nah m8 hurricane Camille would have got her wet. |
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|How is it measured ?like I'm imagining a test tube with the |
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|measurement on the side being in inches. |
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|u/willengineer4beer - 1 month |
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|That’s a pretty accurate visualization. A lot of times they |
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|have a cone at the top of a thing that looks like a graduated |
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|cylinder (the cone helps to better collect wind blown rain coming |
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|down at an angle). Since the cone increases the catchment |
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|area relative to the cylinder, an inch in the cylinder doesn’t |
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|equal an inch of rainfall. Like if the cone is twice as wide |
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|as the cylinder, one inch of actual rainfall will give a water |
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|depth of 4 inches. That also makes it easier to measure/read |
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|fractional inches of rainfall. I’ve never seen any gauges made |
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|to measure anywhere close to these Camille levels, but I imagine |
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|NWS stations probably have them. |
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|Ha! “5 inches in 30 minutes”, name of your…. Weather Tape? The |
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|maximum rainfall happens right at the Climate. |
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|“But the record for highest rainfall in Virginia only goes back to |
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|1969 when the rain gauges were mysteriously washed away….” |
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|I was backpacking in Hawai'i (Kauai) and it supposedly rained 18 |
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|inches on us in one night. It was fucking ridiculous. We were standing |
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|in more than four inches of water literally everywhere. What do you |
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|do? We just moved as high as we could get and sat in the dark |
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|laughing. Any more water and we'd be swimming. I cannot imagine it 40 |
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|inches... Edit: I'm 99% sure this was BEFORE Iniki in the early |
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|A bit less than 30 inches, but almost all of that in a three hour |
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|period, peaking around 10pm IIRC. Most were asleep and did not receive |
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|any warning. The rumor about birds drowning isnt true either, there |
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|is nothing verifying it and that isnt how birds breathe anyway. It was |
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|also not a hurricane when this happened, it had long weakened to a |
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|tropical depression. What *did* happen were landslides and debris |
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|flows. Nelson County was basically fully washed away. 100 something |
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|people died via blunt force trauma because of the landslides |
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|specifically, with some more drowning, and there are several bodies |
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|that were never identified. One thing that is frequently lost in |
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|retellings of this event are what debris flows actually are. Most |
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|envision water and stuff slowly sliding down the hill, but it's not |
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|that, these are very sudden and violent events. Debris flows are water |
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|carrying mud, sediment, trees, rocks, houses, cars, etc. at 40mph. It |
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|is functionally a mass of solid debris that is moving as a fluid. They |
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|are not necessarily uncommon, but during this event they occurred at |
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|an catastrophically large scale. I'm fairly sure you can still see |
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|exposed hillsides in Nelson County currently. It was at such a large |
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|scale that there is an (unconfirmed but plausible) theory that the |
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|death toll may have been much higher, since entire families could |
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|theoretically have been swept away with no bodies recovered and nobody |
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|left to report them as missing, especially since this is a rural area |
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|with inadequate record-keeping. If an entire holler is simply gone, |
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|who is gonna tell you who lived there? As an aside, in response to |
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|another question there are many in this comment section claiming that |
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|nothing changed after this disaster. This is not true. This event was |
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|one of the many that contributed to the formation of FEMA in the |
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|following decade, and to this day Virginia has one of the strictest |
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|weather-related building codes in the nation (given a 96/100 score by |
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|the IBHS, in the #1 spot \[[PDF](https://ibhs1.wpenginepowered.com/wp- |
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|content/uploads/RTS_2024_v2.pdf)\]) TLDR: The total volume of |
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|rainfall was not particularly anomalous, but what was notable is the |
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|speed at which this happened. This was sudden and fast. |
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|The debris flows you describe sound very much like a coal disaster |
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|from the 1960s, not too far from me in Aberfan, Wales. Due to an |
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|act of extraordinary recklessness and negligence, heavy rain |
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|saturated a 110ft tip, which then became a 40ft wall of temporarily |
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|liquified waste rubble, being washed down a mountain side, slamming |
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|into a primary school at speed, and wiping out a generation of young |
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|children Probably worthy of a TIL in its own right if not already. |
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|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberfan_disaster It was long before I |
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|was born, but I have visited the memorial garden and the cemetery |
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|and it is a place that is very hard to describe. If haunting, |
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|terribly sad and beautiful had a single word. I'm not sure even the |
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|Germans have a word for the feelings. |
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|“The Aberfan Disaster Memorial Fund (ADMF) was established on the |
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|day of the disaster. It received nearly 88,000 contributions, |
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|totalling £1.75 million. The remaining tips were removed only |
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|after a lengthy fight by Aberfan residents against resistance from |
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|the NCB and the government on the grounds of cost. The site's |
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|clearance was paid for by a government grant and a forced |
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|contribution of £150,000 taken from the memorial fund.” Wtf |
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|u/MixerFistit - 1 month |
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|Yeah, they really were different times. It seems insane that it |
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|was even considered let alone carried out. To this day, there |
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|are still "at risk" sites that are monitored |
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|https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-67414904 |
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|u/barbarbarbarbarbarba - 1 month |
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|I’m glad someone is keeping an eye out now. I don’t know what |
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|the attitude towards small towns like this was in the UK in |
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|the 60s, but in this case they clearly didn’t give a fuck |
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|about these people. It’s upsetting. |
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|u/flynntlers - 1 month |
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|Nobody cared about small Welsh towns, or Wales in general |
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|I'd argue. Capel Celyn was totally destroyed when the |
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|Tryweryn valley was flooded to create a reservoir to provide |
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|water for the English. A decision by councillors in |
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|Liverpool where not a single Welsh voice was considered. Our |
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|lives clearly meant very little to them. |
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|u/SwimmingPost5747 - 1 month |
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|I only knew about this previously from watching The Crown on |
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|Netflix. |
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|u/Wraith11B - 1 month |
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|I learned about that from an AAR on the Paradox boards... So sad. |
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|u/MixerFistit - 1 month |
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|The first time I heard about it I was in school, aged about 15 |
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|somewhere around 2000. Expecting a games session, our PE teacher |
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|and rugby coach sat us all down infront of a TV in the middle of |
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|the sports hall and played a documentary without explanation. |
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|It's the only class session I remember where nobody made any |
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|jokes or messed about. We just sat there in either silence or |
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|disbelief that something like that could be allowed to happen |
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|u/Noktilucent - 1 month |
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|27" of rain is ABSOLUTELY particularly anomalous. That's much more |
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|than half of what's expected in an entire year in VA, where most of |
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|the state averages around 35-45 inches. Yes, the rate of rainfall |
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|is the most important thing to look at, but it's not possible to |
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|look at rate and total independently like that. Even 27" in a |
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|month's time would cause flooding. |
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|u/waldoj - 1 month |
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|I was at James River State Park last month (across the river from |
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|Nelson) and along the river there were these weird gullies running |
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|perpendicular to the river maybe every eighth of a mile, each maybe |
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|20’ across and 8’ deep. But obviously they weren’t seasonal streams. |
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|I didn’t get it. I asked a park ranger, who explained they formed in |
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|1969 from Camille, from absolute torrents of rain rampaging down the |
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|mountainside. Those scars will be there for thousands of years. |
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|u/Shelltoesyes - 1 month |
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|Northern Virginia is a huge swamp. We would end up with 6 inches of |
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|water in the basement anytime it rained hard in the spring. 27 inches |
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|would be insane |
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|u/J-Colio - 1 month |
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|The bridge in [this photo](https://www.reddit.com/r/rva/s/Njxc8Kbu4Y) |
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|is normally about 20+ FEET above the James River. You can see the |
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|outline of the bridge by the street lights poking up through the |
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|water. |
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|u/OneTreePhil - 1 month |
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|Reminds me of The Man Who Rode Thunder, who almost drowned (among other |
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|things!) while falling through a thundercloud [(summary |
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|here)](https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/18/meet- |
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|the-marine-who-rode-the-thunder-and-lived-to-tell-the-tale/) |
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|u/izza123 - 1 month |
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|Your injury is not service related |
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|u/Capybara_Pulled_Up - 1 month |
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|Why are people no longer joining the military? :'( We treat them |
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|like dogshit while in, dogshit while out -- what else do they want? |
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|u/CapybaraNightmare - 1 month |
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|Capybara supremacy 😎 |
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|u/PresumedSapient - 1 month |
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|Make that a writing prompt. "When the floods wiped out most of |
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|Human civilization, the Capybara Supremacy rose to power. Years |
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|have passed, and the last humans have been reduced to petting |
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|servitude..." |
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|u/Capybara_Pulled_Up - 1 month |
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|MY PEOPLE |
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|u/Confident_As_Hell - 1 month |
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|I am in the military. Because if I wasn't, I'd be arrested |
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|u/N7_anonymous_guy - 1 month |
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|> and returned to active duty shortly thereafter. Oorah |
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|u/Physical_Ring_794 - 1 month |
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|"ah, well back to it!" |
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|u/space253 - 1 month |
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|Lands on ground at 1045pm sunday. Boss: see you at your post at |
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|430am monday! |
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|u/Lithosphere11 - 1 month |
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|That book price Jesus |
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|u/Lectrice79 - 1 month |
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|I read it online at the internet archive, you can borrow it here! |
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|https://archive.org/details/manwhorodethunde00rank |
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|u/Lithosphere11 - 1 month |
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|Oo, thank you! |
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|u/Lectrice79 - 1 month |
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|You're welcome! |
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|u/WillowSLock - 1 month |
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|If you click on it, it’s *only* $189 bucks. The thing about books |
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|that aren’t being printed anymore is that those who own the books |
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|decide the price |
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|u/SsurebreC - 1 month |
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|Book collector [and sometimes seller] here. Don't I wish?! No, the |
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|market decides the price and sometimes some rich fuck comes along |
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|and screws up prices for everyone else by spiking that price which |
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|makes sellers change their listings. They salivate and think the |
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|market is going to deliver but nope... that one rich fuck who |
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|didn't give a damn was the only one who wanted it. So all those |
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|books are going to drop in price and return back to normal. Most |
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|of the time. Sometimes the prices keep on going higher. For |
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|instance, the expectation for a first edition, first print of Dune |
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|is to go higher in price. It did. Then the sequel came out and did |
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|the price go higher? Yep. The sequel has been out for almost half |
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|a year. Prices are still going higher. About 5 years ago, you |
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|could get it for less than $1,500. A recent auction sold for $13k+ |
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|(including buyer's premium). I'm sitting pretty with my two copies |
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|but I also know the price will probably drop back into normal |
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|levels next year or two. Or it might not, as is the case of The |
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|Catcher in the Rye when the price for that just kept on going |
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|higher. |
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|u/Somnif - 1 month |
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|Or sometimes, one rich fuck will make an out-of-print book |
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|popular enough to drag it back into print. Which is how I can |
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|now own a physical copy of "Ignition! An Informal History of |
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|Liquid Rocket Propellants" by John D Clark. ....but have to see |
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|Musk's name and a quote on the cover every time I look at it. |
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|u/Canisa - 1 month |
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|It's not too difficult to re-cover a book if you don't like |
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|the one it comes with - we used to use wrapping paper to do it |
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|to our exercise books in primary school. |
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|u/Somnif - 1 month |
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|Paperback, in this case. |
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|u/whiteflagwaiver - 1 month |
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|Now, this might just be my inner freedom of knowledge mind |
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|speaking here. But where are those goody 2 shoe ne're-do-wells |
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|that totally wouldn't scan these books and disseminate them |
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|online for free? |
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|u/Jacuul - 1 month |
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|I think the value of the books is in the edition, not the |
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|actual words. I have a copy the first three Dune books in a |
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|collection for about $30 I got several years ago |
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|u/SsurebreC - 1 month |
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|You'd be looking at the fine folks at https://archive.org. |
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|u/Lithosphere11 - 1 month |
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|Even almost 200 is a little outrageous. Which is a shame |
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|u/WillowSLock - 1 month |
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|Oh, it’s absolutely ridiculous, I agree |
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|u/LoudReggie - 1 month |
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|I found a copy of the book on the internet archive. You need to log |
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|in to rent it but I'm assuming it's free to read this way. |
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|https://archive.org/details/manwhorodethunde00rank/mode/1up |
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|u/TheOnlyFallenCookie - 1 month |
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|Imagine trying to make a book about a singular sky dive |
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|u/Ganjaleezarice69 - 1 month |
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|God damn what an insane circumstance. Badass that he lived to tell |
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|about it |
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|u/Nuggzulla01 - 1 month |
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|No kidding dude, that was one hell of a story! My god, I cannot |
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|even imagine 1/10th of what that must have been like every single |
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|second of his experience! I really just wanna say this dude is/was |
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|a genuine BADASS just for the fact he had this experience and |
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|survived to tell the tale! |
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|u/Sure_Pilot5110 - 1 month |
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|"The Man Who Rode the Thunder” — available for a cool $799.29 on |
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|Amazon." |
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|u/tom2091 - 1 month |
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|>Reminds me of The Man Who Rode Thunder, who almost drowned (among |
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|other things!) while falling through a thundercloud (summary here) |
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|Thank you This was a fascinating read |
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|u/ilikepants712 - 1 month |
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|>Ejecting into air that was approximately -65 F, Rankin experienced |
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|instant discomfort. I feel like they're underselling it a bit here. |
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|u/lavegasola - 1 month |
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|What the fuck? That is insane lmao |
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|u/TigersEverywhere - 1 month |
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|“I’ve been falling, for 40 minutes!” |
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|u/Ye_kya - 1 month |
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|Holy shit, that was a good read |
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|u/conspiracy_troll - 1 month |
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|I was a baby when this storm came through coastal Ms. I grew up with the |
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|stories and the photos of damage on the coast. One of the stories I |
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|heard from my dad, is that a wind monitor device (windometer? lol) on |
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|Keesler AFB in Biloxi blew off at a gust speed of 220mph. |
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|https://www.goupstate.com/picture-gallery/news/2019/08/16/archive- |
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|u/A_Queer_Owl - 1 month |
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| anemometer is the word you're looking for. |
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|u/penelopiecruise - 1 month |
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|Like the things that grow in the ocean? |
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|u/nightkingmarmu - 1 month |
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|Anenonename |
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|u/loosterbooster - 1 month |
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|u/tellurmomisaidthanks - 1 month |
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|No, you’re thinking of a punctuation mark used to denote |
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|possession or omission. |
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|u/primalbluewolf - 1 month |
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|No, thats apostrophe. You're thinking of the end of the world. |
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|u/Conman3880 - 1 month |
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|No, that's apocalypse. An apostrophe is the element with |
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|atomic number 51 |
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|u/KingWolfsburg - 1 month |
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|No that's Antimony. You're thinking of the money some pays |
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|their ex after a divorce |
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|u/ArnassusProductions - 1 month |
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|That's alimony. You probably wanted a sudden realization. |
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|u/LavenderMcDade - 1 month |
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|That's an epiphany. You're thinking of the goddess of |
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|love in Greek mythology. |
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|u/aeternitatisdaedalus - 1 month |
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|No that's Aphrodite. You're thinking of a Japanese |
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|dish prepared with immature soybeans in the pod. |
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|u/amusingmistress - 1 month |
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|No, that's alimony. You're thinking of that Bruce Willis |
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|asteroid movie. |
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|u/hitbluntsandfliponce - 1 month |
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|That’s Armageddon. I believe you’re thinking of a |
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|deviation from what’s expected. |
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|u/LavenderMcDade - 1 month |
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|That's an anomaly. You're thinking of when a monarch |
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|u/speculatrix - 1 month |
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|No, you're thinking of bowel flushing/purging |
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|u/dwehlen - 1 month |
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|No, that's enema. You're thinking of japanise cartoons. |
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|u/phlegm_de_la_phlegm - 1 month |
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|Many an anemone has an enemy anemone |
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|u/Grasscutter101 - 1 month |
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|“BEFORE: In August 1969, a dozen people gathered at the Richelieu |
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|Apartments, in the Gulf Coast town of Pass Christian, Miss. Stocked |
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|with food and drink, they were going to have a hurricane party. |
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|Another dozen residents also opted to wait out the storm in their |
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|apartments. “ “AFTER: Camille hit Pass Christian head-on. And the |
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|next morning, there were no partyers. One of the 24 was found alive, |
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|clinging to a tree 5 miles inland. And no Richelieu. Just a slab.” |
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|Jesus. Must’ve been a wild party. |
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|u/best_user_name_ever - 1 month |
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|residents of the Richelieu Manor Apartments in Pass Christian, |
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|party” as the hurricane made landfall, and that all but one died. In |
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|actuality, there was no party; 23 people are known to have stayed in |
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|the apartments during the hurricane, eight of whom died despite |
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|The tale of the party, and the lone survivor, apparently originated |
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|with survivor Mary Ann Gerlach, who also told her story in a 1989 |
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|episode of Nova. Another survivor, Ben Duckworth, has expressed |
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|reiterated in 2001. “We were exhausted from boarding up windows and |
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|helping the police move cars. We were too tired to party. I can’t |
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|tell you why that story persists, or why people didn’t put two and |
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|two together. I guess the hurricane party makes a good story.” |
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|"There is no record of a hurricane party in Pass Christian" "Yes, |
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|u/Hije5 - 1 month |
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|In case anyone is curious about a hurricane party, it isn't usually |
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|a full-fledged party. They aren't celebrating a hurricane's arrival. |
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|It isn't like people are handing out fomal invites or anything, |
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|unless perhaps they're very wealthy and/or they know they're in a |
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|very safe area. A lot of people celebrate it to their own degree, |
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|but it isn't a formal event nor your typical idea of a party. It |
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|isnt like you can stock up on perishables when a major hurricane is |
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|coming, nor can you get that inebriated depending on your |
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|location/income. It is just a way to make light of a shitty |
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|situation and an excuse for people, numerous families, and friends |
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|to come together during a time of crisis. Basically, they are like |
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|end-of-the-world parties without any permanent aspects. At least in |
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|the south, you'd be surprised how quickly everyone sets aside their |
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|differences when a major storm hits and devestates. Everyone was |
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|only a Louisianan when Katrina hit. Nothing more, nothing less. Good |
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|ol' [Cajun Army](http://thecajunarmy.com/) and [Cajun |
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|Navy](https://www.cajunnavyrelief.com/). The [Cajun Navy |
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|Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajun_Navy). |
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|u/Available-Brain-1805 - 1 month |
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|It's a hurricane party when the power goes out and you cook all |
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|the food that might go bad before power comes back on so you grill |
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|out and feed the neighbors, and watch the wind throw debris at |
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|u/bubblesculptor - 1 month |
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| My favorite hurricane party story is from Katrina in New |
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|Orleans. Crossed paths with a homeless guy after Katrina and |
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|we discussed our experiences. Supposedly he was riding out the |
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|storm in a French Quarter or Garden District restaurant that |
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|he's on good terms with the owners. Like he helps them out |
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|occasionally and get leftovers etc. Anyway he was staying at |
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|the restaurant keeping watch over things and once electricity |
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|was out he began cooking up all the food knowing it would |
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|otherwise spoil. So he was eating the finest meats they had |
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|stocked, drinking finest champagnes etc. Invited over other |
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|homeless friends and they all ate/drink like kings for a few |
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|days. The owners had no way to contact him for weeks and |
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|were worried sick assuming the worst that he died in storm. |
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|Eventually they got in touch and he laughed about not having any |
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|problems at all, just fat & drunk from his feast! Maybe this |
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|story is mostly embellishment but I choose not to let truth hold |
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|back a good story! |
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|u/KeyPear2864 - 1 month |
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|I don’t think champagne spoils though lol |
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|u/pocketnotebook - 1 month |
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|Better open another one, just to make sure |
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|u/Telvyr - 1 month |
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|He couldn't take that risk, what if some rich snob got sick |
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|of bad champagne. That was a right civil service that man |
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|u/NoPoet3982 - 1 month |
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|He was raised by Lucille Bluth. |
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|u/J5892 - 1 month |
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|It does if it's submerged in water. Though the French |
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|u/imarc - 1 month |
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|Katrina was so bad. It deserves a good story or two. |
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|u/Hije5 - 1 month |
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|The grilling! It's such a fun part. There is something so |
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|calming about having numerous people in a good mood prior to the |
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|power going out since everyone knows it'll likely happen. There |
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|is also something oddly serene about the weather when the |
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|hurricane is nearing the coast. |
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|u/Available-Brain-1805 - 1 month |
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|I love watching the hurricanes roll it, it's the best weather, |
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|fun to watch, and you do a little community building with your |
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|neighbors and everyone feels a little safer for it xD |
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|u/conspiracy_troll - 1 month |
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|[The Band of Heathens, Hurricane](https://m.youtube.com/watc |
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|h?v=75X4bWf5fIs&pp=ygUaYmFuZCBvZiBoZWF0aGVucyBodXJyaWNhbmU%3 |
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|D) |
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|u/TheWonderPony - 1 month |
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|[Levon Helm, Hurricane](https://youtu.be/YyTaiqX0BfQ?si=nS |
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|XI4Vm8HVIr1x-P) |
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|u/Ancient_Amount3239 - 1 month |
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|Can’t believe that has 55 million views! |
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|u/HarpersGhost - 1 month |
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|The locals on the NC outer banks would buy the food and liquor |
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|the tourists leave behind for real cheap, and use that as the |
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|party. And the party would happen at the location that people |
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|think is the sturdiest. |
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|u/mackattack-77 - 1 month |
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|We lived in South Florida for a while and every hurricane that |
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|swung by brought the best barbecues you could go to |
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|u/lotsofpaper - 1 month |
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|You know what type of construction I don't trust to shelter me |
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|during a hurricane? An apartment building. A school? |
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|Probably... Hospital? Maybe. Police station? Yeah. An |
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|apartment? No... Have you ever looked at the plans for one? |
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|There's practically no reinforcing in the footing, and literally |
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|none in the slab, if there even is one... the walls are minimal |
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|and the roofing is the cheapest possible configuration. |
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|u/VestmentsByGarak - 1 month |
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|This guy Floridas. |
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|u/91Bolt - 1 month |
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|As someone from central florida, hurricane parties are definitely |
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|fun for half the people. It's a slumber party for adults, where |
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|everyone from Florida is excited to play board games and card |
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|games by candle light, sit in the garage or porch during the |
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|softer parts, force the dogs into the rain to pee and poop, and |
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|get drunk enough to go swimming if there's a pool. The other |
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|half of the party, usually those who moved here from New England, |
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|is freaking the fuck out and is confused just enough to think |
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|maybe this is all okay. |
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|u/CruisinJo214 - 1 month |
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|As someone who rode out a couple hurricanes in college dorms. We |
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|had parties. We ran in the rain. It was pre-Katrina and we were in |
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|the south. Good (but not very safe) times. |
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|u/Yourwanker - 1 month |
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|>As someone who rode out a couple hurricanes in college dorms. |
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|We had parties. We ran in the rain. It was pre-Katrina and we |
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|were in the south. Same for me. My college was 130 miles from |
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|the coast so by the time any hurricane hit it was usually a cat |
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|2 or less. Everything shut down in the city and we'd have huge |
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|hurricane parties with lots of alcohol and drugs. Fun times. |
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|u/MTFBinyou - 1 month |
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|We would get a keg, cases of beer, a ton of liquor, some party |
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|favors and a bunch of snacks and stuff to grill and throw down |
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|for a couple days with 15-20 people. Basically our main friend |
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|group would come to our house as we had a big house/property |
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|right by campus and it was already set up for parties. We had |
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|a granite beer pong table, I miss that thing. |
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|u/WeirdGymnasium - 1 month |
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|> some party favors I know what you're referring to, but I |
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|can't stop laughing about everyone wearing one of those "Happy |
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|Birthday" cone hats with "birthday" crossed out and |
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|"hurricane" sharpied in. |
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|u/gimpwiz - 1 month |
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|Recreational drugs, yes. The happy kind, not the sad kind, |
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|unless you hang out with sad people. |
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|u/MTFBinyou - 1 month |
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|Yes, but remember. All things are good in moderation. |
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|Including moderation. |
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|u/DreiKatzenVater - 1 month |
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|In the northern states, they have blizzard parties for the exact |
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|same reasons |
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|u/schnitzelfeffer - 1 month |
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|I've never heard of a blizzard party but for the last huge |
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|blizzard we had I made a huge pot of soup and passed it out to |
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|the neighbors after all the guys were done snowblowing all the |
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|driveways and sidewalks on our block. |
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|u/NibblesMcGiblet - 1 month |
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|> Everyone was only a Louisianan when Katrina hit This is the |
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|exact same way that New Yorkers reacted after 9/11. We were all |
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|just Americans, trying to find people and get a bearing on what |
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|the hell was going on. For all the stereotypes of being rude or |
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|standoffish or uncaring or whatever, everyone really came |
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|together. I remember watching Katrina unfold on tv, I was glued to |
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|it and horrified throughout. Hurricanes are something else. |
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|Tropical Storm Lee decimated my small upstate NY town back when my |
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|now-21 year old was in second grade (still feels like "a few years |
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|ago") and Debby just flooded out our camping spot a few days ago |
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|when my kids and I were camping for Elements festival. Porta |
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|potties blown over, tents collapsed, people on air mattresses |
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|waking up on newly formed ponds on the campground - it was |
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|something else. I guess I'm rambling. Your comment just brought |
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|back a whole slew of memories. It's weird getting older, thinking |
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|back to all the crazy stuff you lived through. |
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|u/Septopuss7 - 1 month |
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|The cops down there ran wild, though. Like they had beef with |
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|u/DoctorJJWho - 1 month |
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|Are you completely ignoring the massive increase of violent |
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|crime against people who looked vaguely Middle Eastern? To the |
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|point where Sikhs were removing their turbans because idiotic |
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|racists were targeting them on the streets of NYC (and the rest |
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|of the US)? Like yeah it was nice to see some unity for the |
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|victims of 9/11 but you’re incredibly naive if you think “We |
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|were all just Americans”. |
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|u/undeadmanana - 1 month |
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|Did that happen during 9/11 or was that something that |
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|occurred later on in response to 9/11? Maybe it's just me |
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|but I feel like the effects during an ongoing crisis differ a |
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|little from the long term effects and you're confusing what |
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|the post you're replying to is talking about. |
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|u/DoctorJJWho - 1 month |
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|In the one month following 9/11, there were 800 reported |
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|violent or hate crimes against Sikhs alone. I personally |
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|know several Sikhs and Indians who were specifically |
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|targeted at school, and their parents were harassed in NYC |
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|where they worked. All within a week or two of 9/11, in NYC |
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|and on LI. So no, the happy feelings of “everyone is |
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|American” did not extend to *everyone*, even in the |
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|immediate aftermath. |
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|u/RepulsiveReasoning - 1 month |
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|There was a horrifying amount of race-based murder in the |
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|aftermath of Katrina in the more rural regions |
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|u/eganwall - 1 month |
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|Yep, was looking for this comment - not everyone considered |
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|everyone else to be "just Louisianan" after Katrina |
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|u/RepulsiveReasoning - 1 month |
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|Yeah, lots of folks used the cover of a chaotic situation |
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|during a disaster to murder their neighbors for their skin |
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|color. Let's not pretend they have *just* started flying |
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|Confederate flags. |
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|u/V6Ga - 1 month |
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|> In case anyone is curious about a hurricane party, it isn't |
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|usually a full-fledged party. Ya ain't. You may not have |
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|hurricane parties but lots of people do. Most people really do |
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|u/scott743 - 1 month |
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|Hurricane parties are type two fun in the best of scenarios. We |
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|evacuated to Atlanta during Irma in 2017 and stayed local with a |
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|friend in Fort Myers during Ian in 2022. It was great sharing |
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|meals while riding out the storm in safety, but both times we were |
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|anxiously waiting to see if our home survived the storm surge (it |
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|u/BigOlBlimp - 1 month |
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|u/Sulli23 - 1 month |
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|And the Cajun Navy stepped up huge when Harvey hit Houston in |
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|u/Brief_Lunch_2104 - 1 month |
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|u/onehundredlemons - 1 month |
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|It didn't happen. The "lone survivor" made the story up, it seems, |
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|or possibly one of the apartment residents who heard someone say |
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|they should get some beer and party. The truth is that 8 people in |
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|the building died, but they weren't partying, there was a shelter |
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|there, they'd boarded up the windows as well. The apartment owner |
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|said the building would be safe and he seemed to have actually meant |
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|that, though he was wrong. Residents stayed because of the shelter |
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|and the assumption that the building would be strong enough to |
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|withstand the storm. The myth was known as a myth locally for |
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|years, and it's been debunked nationally several times since 2000 or |
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|so, but it keeps getting repeated. |
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|https://www.nola.com/news/weather/that-infamous-hurricane-camille- |
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|party-on-aug-17-1969-it-never- |
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|happened/article_acee3db1-ec9d-5fa6-bdc2-1ad983263903.html |
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|https://www.clarionledger.com/story/opinion/2020/08/17/hurricane- |
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|u/SpaceMurse - 1 month |
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|I went to Pass Christian to clean up a few weeks after Katrina. Just |
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|slabs, slabs everywhere. And a mile or two inland, houses in the |
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|u/ebonybutterfree - 1 month |
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|Several sites say the party and subsequent deaths never happened. |
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|u/ersentenza - 1 month |
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|I thought that was an urban legend |
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|u/GeneralCAG - 1 month |
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|You are correct, this story has been disproved multiple times. |
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|However, that does not take away from the significance of Camille |
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|or the destruction and deaths that occurred. |
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|u/No_Indication3249 - 1 month |
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|[Wikipedia indicates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Camill |
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|e#Hurricane_Party) the party is an urban legend originating in an |
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|interview broadcast on the PBS show Nova in 1989. "There was no |
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|hurricane party \[...\] We were exhausted from boarding up windows |
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|and helping the police move cars. We were too tired to party. I |
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|can't tell you why that story persists, or why people didn't put two |
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|and two together. I guess the hurricane party makes a good story." |
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|u/OlGreggMare - 1 month |
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|This is the one my family always told me. House on Havana Blvd where |
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|I spent a lot of time, boat in Pass harbor. They said it would |
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|happen again and there's Katrina. Ship Island is the easiest way to |
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|see the longer term change but I remember knowing where houses used |
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|to be only because there were blank rectangles in the trees. Lesson |
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|hopefully learned on stilt houses Andrew was the only one I recall |
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|having a party because it's path was unknown, feel more than a |
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|little bit bad when I heard what it did to Florida |
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|u/bankrupt_bezos - 1 month |
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|Is ship island the one with the yacht in a tree across from the |
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|golf course? |
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|u/OlGreggMare - 1 month |
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|It's an old fort a small way into Mississippi sound, next to Cat |
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|Island, south from Gulfport. Katrina cut the island in half |
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|u/speculatrix - 1 month |
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|It really brought the house down! |
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|u/malthar76 - 1 month |
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|Tear the roof off the mother sucker. |
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|u/Presto123ubu - 1 month |
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|Oh man, I went to Pass Christian after Katrina to help; it had been |
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|wiped off the earth. |
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|u/June_Inertia - 1 month |
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|Gulf State Park had a hotel on the beach. About half the slab |
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|remained after Camille. The remains are across the street from the |
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|Lake Shelby Playground. |
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|u/NoPoet3982 - 1 month |
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|It turns out that this is an urban myth! [https://en.wikipedia.org/ |
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|wiki/Hurricane\_Camille#Hurricane\_Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/w |
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|iki/Hurricane_Camille#Hurricane_Party) Hurricane Party An [Urban |
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|legend](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend) about Camille |
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|states that 24 residents of the Richelieu Manor Apartments in [Pass |
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|Christian, Mississippi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pass_Christian |
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|,_Mississippi), which was in the path of the eyewall, held a |
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|"[hurricane party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_party)" |
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|as the hurricane made landfall, and that all but one died. In |
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|actuality, there was no party; 23 people are known to have stayed in |
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|the apartments during the hurricane, eight of whom died despite |
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|taking all precautions they knew in order to secure the building. |
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|The tale of the party, and the lone survivor, apparently originated |
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|with survivor Mary Ann Gerlach,[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/ |
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|wiki/Hurricane_Camille#cite_note-Sullivan-12) who also told her |
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|story in [a 1989 episode](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nova |
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|_episodes#Season_17:_1989%E2%80%931990) of [*Nova*](https://en.wikip |
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|edia.org/wiki/Nova_(American_TV_program)). Another survivor, Ben |
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|Duckworth, has expressed irritation at the story. "There was no |
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|hurricane party," Duckworth reiterated in 2001. "We were exhausted |
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|from boarding up windows and helping the police move cars. We were |
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|too tired to party. I can't tell you why that story persists, or why |
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|people didn't put two and two together. I guess the hurricane party |
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|makes a good story."[^(\[25\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurric |
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|ane_Camille#cite_note-25)[\[26\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurr |
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|icane_Camille#cite_note-26) |
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|u/gumbo-taco - 1 month |
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|Same here. Grew up on MS coast. Every year during the season there |
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|were always the comparisons. |
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|u/gwaydms - 1 month |
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|After Hurricane Katrina, people said, "Camille killed more people in |
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|2005 than it did in 1969." A lot of residents whose homes survived |
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|Camille stayed, thinking nothing could be worse than Camille. They |
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|were wrong. |
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|u/heirbagger - 1 month |
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|Sorta OT: My house has made it through Camille, Frederic, Elena, |
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|Georges, and Katrina, and yet my insurance is like a gajillion |
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|dollars a year. (Not really but like $4000 this past year). |
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|u/ActuallyYeah - 1 month |
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|Insurance thinks you're highly likely to make a five-figure |
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|claim in the next few decades. Sorry. |
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|u/heirbagger - 1 month |
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|Yeah, I know. When we bought the house in late 2017, hazard |
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|and wind was like $1800/year (no flood required). For our |
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|prior policy, the cheapest quote we could get for the same |
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|coverage was $6800. Our current policy is close to $4000, |
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|which is a shit ton cheaper, but man oh man, I long for the |
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|days of pre-Covid pricing lol. It’s a shame because I see |
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|ourselves potentially being priced out of our home solely |
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|because of escrow - which is currently 50% of our mortgage |
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|note, compared to about 35% when we bought the house - but we |
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|cannot afford to move more inland at this time. One day maybe. |
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|u/gwaydms - 1 month |
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|I'm not sure what our insurance is on the Texas coast but it |
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|ain't cheap. |
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|u/rognabologna - 1 month |
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|Wow, that’s heartbreaking. You lay it out very succinctly |
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|u/MrFishAndLoaves - 1 month |
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|Always remember my grandparents talking about Camille and Betsy, and |
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|we grew up in New Orleans with both having 6+ feet of water in their |
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|homes. Honestly the title mentioning Virginia is a bit shameful. |
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|u/JARsweepstakes - 1 month |
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|I went to USM with a lot of folks from the Coast. My roommate from |
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|‘Goula introduced me to his (much) older father, who told me a boat |
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|was pushed up the Singing River a mile and ended up in the drive |
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|through of a Burger King. I saw what Katrina did down there, and |
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|Camille was worse |
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|u/snazzynewshoes - 1 month |
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|Shout out to the Golden Eagles! Katrina took ALL the live oaks. That |
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|makes me sad. |
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|u/Stray-hellhound - 1 month |
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|I remember hearing it buried pine needles in trees from speed of wind. |
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|Always broke my brain trying to understand that |
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|u/TeniBitz - 1 month |
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|After Ivan (not quite as bad), we found pine needles stuck through |
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|our metal carport (which was a mangled mess of its own). I still |
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|remember how terrifying that was to hear next to my window all |
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|night. |
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|u/msflagship - 1 month |
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|My childhood priest was new to the southeastern US from Ireland in the |
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|late ‘60s and didn’t fully understand what hurricanes were. He |
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|survived the storm surge at St. Michael’s on the beach in Biloxi by |
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|clinging onto the cross on the dome roof and praying for dear life |
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|That luck couldn’t have happened to a better man, the dude’s hilarious |
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|u/Luminous-theory - 1 month |
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|Damn that’s an intense read. Nature went boxing with this dude at 50k |
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|feet and he lived |
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|u/FiveUpsideDown - 1 month |
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|My Grandmother told me stories about Camille. |
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|u/Caped-Baldy_Class-B - 1 month |
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|I grew up in south Mississippi in the '80's and the effects of Camille |
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|were still seen everywhere. Everyone had stories about it, buildings |
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|and total areas would be a ghost town and my parents would just |
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|attribute it to "Camille". As a kid it's spooky, like Camille was a |
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|ghost still haunting the land and the people. |
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|u/grambino - 1 month |
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|My dad grew up in Bay St Louis and was a teen for Camille. We used to |
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|visit the area every summer when I was a kid and it's amazing to me |
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|now how much that storm was still ingrained in the local culture 30 |
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|years later. I remember seeing the boat that got tossed across Beach |
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|Blvd in maybe Gulfport that they just left there, and the bent cross |
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|in Christ Episcopal. And the fact that everyone above a certain age |
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|still had vivid memories of it that they talked about almost |
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|nostalgically. I haven't been there as much as an adult but it seemed |
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|like Katrina was more of a total reset, probably because everything |
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|was just gone afterwards. |
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|u/rckid13 - 1 month |
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|During Hurricane Maria the airport weather station on St. Maarten |
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|stopped functioning at 173 knots which is about 200mph. It kept |
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|broadcasting that last reading for almost a month. |
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|u/Leebites - 1 month |
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|My mom was 21 and living in New Orleans (so she has stories of |
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|flooding mainly) but my dad was in Biloxi. He said he watched his |
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|neighbor's house disappear over the span of an hour from the winds. |
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|They were in a built/hand made bunker of sorts by their own house that |
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|got a lot of damage. Katrina later wiped out everything that Camille |
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|couldn't. Crazy how much difference between the two! Edit: wording |
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|u/The_Grungeican - 1 month |
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|[A hurricane is coming!](https://youtu.be/nGXsq0g8H-Q?t=35) |
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|u/K4NNW - 1 month |
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|The landslides that resulted from that rain are the reason that one can |
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|see rocky hillsides in Nelson County, VA where there was once soil and |
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|plant life. |
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|u/soberpenguin - 1 month |
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|The big rocky outcropping off rt29? |
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|u/K4NNW - 1 month |
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|Yes, those. |
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|u/Ryanisreallame - 1 month |
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|Oh, wow! I’ve driven that stretch countless times and had no idea |
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|that was why the rocks were visible. Thanks for learning me! |
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|u/soberpenguin - 1 month |
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|Always wondered about those when I was driving down to Lynchburg |
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|Forever LC!! |
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|u/acwire_CurensE - 1 month |
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|Any landmarks you can think of nearby? I’m trying to picture where |
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|it would be an I’m struggling to find it. |
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|u/FarmerHunter23 - 1 month |
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|As you’re going North, the Livingston McDonalds is on the left and |
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|the mountain straight ahead shows the marks of the slide. It |
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|killed 250 people in their beds and some bodies were never |
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|recovered. There’s a fascinating book about it called When the |
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|Mountains Roared. |
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|You might be thinking of the book "Roar of the Heavens" by |
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|Stefan Bechtel. |
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|A Google search of the book does not return the results you’re |
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|claiming. You sure you got the title right? |
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|Search for "Roar of the Heavens" by Stefan Bechtel |
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|Tyvm!! |
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|Ahhh yeah I can kind of picture it now, thanks! |
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|Holy shit. I never knew that was from Camille. That McDonalds |
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|was about the exact halfway point on the drive from college back |
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|home to Roanoke. I knew Nelson county got devastated, but that's |
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|insane. |
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|The ones at 37.771564, -78.861647? Just behind the Catholic |
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|Yes that's it |
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|Lovingston on US-29. The trees make it harder to see these days, |
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|but they're there. |
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|Growing up, I remember looking through my father's high school |
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|whole families washed away - so many pictures of students who died. |
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|That is just sad. Here is to hoping these stories and shared |
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|experiences helped to save lives after, and into the future, |
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|Especially considering how all these weather events are rapidly |
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|ramping up and increasing in intensity. Do you think quality of |
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|buildings, and building codes were adjusted to make them potentially |
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|more resilient when these things inevitably happen again? It really |
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|makes one consider (and appreciate) the fact that things had to have |
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|happened (and lives likely lost) to encourage and enact stronger |
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|regulations for things that could be effected by events like this. |
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|Making it even more fucked up that we have people these days trying |
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|to roll back and/or outright remove these regulations that are ment |
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|to save lives... ALL for the sake of someones 'Bottom Line' and |
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|ShareHolder profits. |
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|u/downtuning - 1 month |
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|Back in the 60s/70s can't imagine building codes in the area were |
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|adjusted, but information about flood plains definitely did. |
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|Because the storm didn't weaken as expected and hit in the middle |
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|of the night, it caught everyone in the area off guard. |
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|Meteorology just wasn't as advanced back then. The stories of the |
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|hurricane get passed down in families, they will not be soon |
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|forgotten. The old folkways are still alive. |
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|The storm hitting in the middle of the night was one thing that |
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|happened with us when Florence hit in 2018. A little potent |
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|batch of rain went up Greens Creek near the Parkway in Franklin |
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|County and caused some flooding, but thankfully not on the scale |
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|u/JustDyslexic - 1 month |
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|u/in_conexo - 1 month |
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|>[Avalanches](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avalanche) occurred on |
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|hillsides with a slope greater than 35 percent. This is a large |
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|u/skippythemoonrock - 1 month |
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|u/veringer - 1 month |
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|> Nelson County, VA [That tracks with the rainfall totals](https://en |
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|u/Horror-Antelope4256 - 1 month |
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|It rained 12” in 1 hour in Nelson County |
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|u/Any_Accident1871 - 1 month |
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|Reminds me of growing up in Utah and looking for avalanche slide paths |
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|on the mountain sides whenever we were driving around in the winter. |
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|jpg?timestamp=1721629657) that overlooks the Salt Lake valley. |
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|u/YeaSpiderman - 1 month |
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|I am in hosuton and was here during hurricane Harvey. It wasn’t bad |
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|until it sounded like there was a giant heavenly spigot in the sky they |
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|suddenly got turned on full blast and lasted for days. Harris county |
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|(Houston) had 1 trillion gallons of water dumped on it in 4 days. I |
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|can’t imagine any worse but yet here we are with Hurricane Camille Just |
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|checked my rainfall total for my area …36” |
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|u/RxDuchess - 1 month |
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|My parents were living there for that, they were in the attic |
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|attempting to rescue things when they opened the dams. When they left |
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|the attic there was a foot and a half of air between the water and the |
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|ceiling and they had to swim out. We aren’t American and couldn’t get |
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|over the fact they did that with no warning, from memory that actually |
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|killed a few people. Thankfully the cats were already on the second |
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|floor of another house with the neighbours so they were okay Edit: |
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|cat tax featuring Ibra staring mournfully on a second story balcony. |
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|https://imgur.com/a/hgQC9BB |
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|u/curvebombr - 1 month |
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|A lot of people drowned in their attics during Katrina. They had |
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|PSAs to keep a axe or hatchet in the attic for this reason |
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|u/RxDuchess - 1 month |
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|That doesn’t surprise me at all. Did they also open flood dams? |
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|u/Uhh_derp - 1 month |
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|Levees broke during Katrina, and a lot of New Orleans is below |
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|sea level. So it just became part of the ocean. They had to make |
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|some tough decisions with the dams around Houston during Harvey |
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|u/RxDuchess - 1 month |
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|I only wish they’d sent out any kind of warning before they |
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|did, completely understand why they had to |
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|u/LooksAtClouds - 1 month |
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|They announced on the news that the dams would be opened at |
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|midnight(?) I think. Then they had to open them almost immediately |
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|instead, because the water at the Addicks dam quickly got within a |
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|foot of the controls system electronics. If it had blown out the |
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|controls system, the dam could NOT be controlled at all and possibly |
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|the entire dam would have given way. It was already being eroded |
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|around the north end. A horrible decision to have to make. I'm glad |
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|your parents were OK. I think 2 people died in apartments along the |
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|bayou from the resulting wave of water. I have always felt that |
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|they didn't explain enough about the situation. |
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|u/ElysianWinds - 1 month |
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|What do you mean opened dams? |
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|u/Social_Gnome - 1 month |
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|The dams were full beyond capacity, and were at risk of bursting. |
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|They basically had to do a “controlled release” of the water to |
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|relieve some of the pressure. It was a crazy amount of flooding, |
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|but an actual dam break would have been worse. |
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|https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/shows/below-the- |
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|waterlines/2022/08/09/429488/five-years-after-harvey-a-solution- |
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|to-the-flood-threat-from-the-addicks-and-barker-reservoirs- |
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|u/Apptubrutae - 1 month |
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|Camille was an absolute torrent compared to Harvey. Harvey wins in |
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|length and total volume of water, but it was over a relatively longer |
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|timespan. It wasn’t full blast at all. At least versus a maximum |
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|possible full blast. I think the most I’ve seen is 5” per hour or so. |
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|It gets absolutely wild at that level of rain. |
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|u/YeaSpiderman - 1 month |
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|I bet. I’m saying knowing what I experienced, it’s mind boggling |
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|that there was worse at some point in time. |
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|u/mysteryinterest2 - 1 month |
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|I lived in Houston for years. Had a thunderstorm pop up at the |
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|office in northwest Houston and some radar estimates had 7” in the |
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|hour it lasted. Trapped for a while, thankfully isolated and it |
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|drained enough to go home after a few hours. Scrambled to move some |
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|cars in the parking lot to higher ground as the young and stupid |
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|u/Salphabeta - 1 month |
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|How does the air even hold that much water? |
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|u/bbot - 1 month |
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|A cubic meter of air masses 1.29kg. At 100% humidity at 20C, it can |
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|hold 18.7 grams of water vapor. But if it cools down to 19C, it can |
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|only hold 17.5 grams of water. So 1.2 grams of water condenses out |
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|of the air and falls as rain. We arrive at the big rainfall numbers |
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|by multiplying that 1.2 grams by the entire sky, and [begging your |
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|pardon Mister President but it's a bigass |
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|sky.](https://youtu.be/qk9MK5smzVE?t=66) Assume a column of air one |
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|kilometer on a side and ten kilometers tall. (About 35k feet, up |
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|where airliners fly.) That's ten billion cubic meters. If it's fully |
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|saturated and falls in temp by 5 degrees C it'll drop 50 million |
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|liters of water on the ground. And storms *move.* This is why |
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|meteorologists talk about [atmospheric |
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|rivers.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_river) Water |
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|evaporates off the ocean, flies inland, and then lands on your head. |
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|u/gusmedeiros - 1 month |
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|What an incredible response. As an engineer who studied a lot of |
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|thermodynamics, air tables, etc, I just never thought of rain in |
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|terms of how much water air can hold, although as most similar |
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|concepts it feels obvious in hindsight. Thank you for sharing. |
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|u/ActuallyYeah - 1 month |
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|It brings it in from the coast like a conveyor belt |
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|u/Kufat - 1 month |
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|u/TheJaybo - 1 month |
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|That's the same amount of water that passes over Niagara Falls in 4 |
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|days. |
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|u/WayToTheGrave - 1 month |
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|I'm bornt and raised coastal North Carolina and the worst rain I've |
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|seen was hurricane Matthew. It dropped 20" in about 30 hours and it |
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|was just incredible. |
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|u/dan_144 - 1 month |
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|I can't believe ND and NCSU still played that weekend |
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|u/NoStorage2821 - 1 month |
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|Fellow Houstonian here, it was like someone parked the ocean above our |
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|heads and dumped it all over the course of a several days |
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|u/TheRavenSayeth - 1 month |
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|The frustrating thing about Houston is it's got all this oil and gas |
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|money, but refuses to put in place major long term solutions to the |
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|chronic flooding problems that hit the city when hurricanes |
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|predictably come through. Like I'm no genius, but if you know that a |
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|certain area is going to flood over easily, invest in some pumps and |
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|tanks to contain it. Beef up your drainage system. Do something other |
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|than, "Whelp looks like it's happening again. We'll just watch and see |
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|how bad it is this time." |
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|u/Cutting_The_Cats - 1 month |
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|Cant do that, have to spend infrastructure money on humvees for the |
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|police departments and on building more highways. |
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|u/gecampbell - 1 month |
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|A friend of mine in high school grew up in Alabama. He said that, during |
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|Camille, he was on their porch with his father watching the water rise, |
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|when some water blew into his face. “Oh my God, that’s salt water!” They |
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|got in their car and drove all night. The house was 14 miles from the |
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|coast. |
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|u/Plasibeau - 1 month |
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|Yeah, if you ever needed a sign, that would be it right there. |
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|u/slick_pick - 1 month |
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|sign for what? im lost goes to show i will not survive the |
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|apocalypse 🙃 |
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|u/CyberWolf09 - 1 month |
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|A sign to gtfo as soon as possible. |
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|u/bbqbie - 1 month |
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|New fear unlocked |
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|u/SibyllaAzarica - 1 month |
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|New phobia unlocked! |
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|u/HeyManItsToMeeBong - 1 month |
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|birds are a lot easier to drown than you might think many people who |
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|try to help injured birds or babies by dropping water into their mouth |
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|end up killing them because it goes down the wrong tube |
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|u/TheManicDepression - 1 month |
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|very weak |
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|u/Flincheddecor - 1 month |
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|Calm down Dennis. |
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|LOOK AT ME WHEN YOU’RE TALKING TO MEEEEEEEEEE |
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|u/Captain_erektion - 1 month |
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|Well yes there was a third crow and a fourth if you must know, but |
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|who likes crows? |
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|u/ManualPathosChecks - 1 month |
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|Since you're counting crows, why not play us a song? |
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|u/CrabMan-DBoi - 1 month |
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|He's gonna snap your neck like that crow |
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|u/Camtastrophe - 1 month |
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|Well of course there was a second crow! |
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|u/rubysmama16 - 1 month |
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|Maybe you should try it again, just to be sure |
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|How about shear and compressive strength? |
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|u/Sea-Outside-9028 - 1 month |
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|Your opening comment reminds me of the bird flu episode of Parks and |
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|Rec lol. “How do I kill them? Just fill up a bathtub and drown them |
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|one by one?”🤣 |
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|One of the best random quotes from that series! |
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|u/Uncle_Freddy - 1 month |
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|I know evolution is truly random, but I still can’t believe the |
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|breathe hole, drink hole, and eat hole are all the same hole and |
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|that hole has a concerningly high number of false positives when it |
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|comes to routing food/liquid/air to their correct path considering |
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|that false positives can be fatal |
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|Could be worse. At lease the "waste" hole is a different hole. |
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|u/HeyManItsToMeeBong - 1 month |
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|u/AristarchusTheMad - 1 month |
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|u/LindseyIsBored - 1 month |
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|My coworker had a rain-wrapped tornado hit her house. While her and |
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|her family thought they would be safe in the basement, the tornado |
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|blew out all the windows and the pouring rain flooded the basement and |
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|they almost drowned. I’ve lived in tornado alley my entire life and |
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|never considered that scenario but it definitely unlocked a new fear |
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|u/MrTheBest - 1 month |
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|Luckily it takes a lot longer for a basement to flood than for a |
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|tornado to pass over. Tho i imagine it could be hard to tell when |
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|its safer to leave vs stay during a dark stressful event like that |
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|u/eso_nwah - 1 month |
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|Creepy story. I was 9 and sheltering with my mother in the second house |
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|up from the beach in Biloxi MS through the whole thing. My dad was in |
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|Vietnam or he wouldn't have let it happen. He took an emergency leave |
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|and arrived after the storm. We lived on a hill up from the beach |
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|highway (sand, highway, hill up from the highway, one house then our |
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|house), at about 21' above sea level which is one of the highest points |
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|in Biloxi. Mom thought there would be no way we'd get 22' rise and |
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|didn't really think out the winds, so proud of that modest hill. The |
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|night before I went out onto the street, facing straight down the hill |
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|and out into the gulf, and I could spread out my shirt and lean |
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|[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskOldPeople/](https://www.reddit.co |
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|m/r/AskOldPeople/) that should work! |
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|u/Ancient_Amount3239 - 1 month |
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|u/Sparowl - 1 month |
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|I lived in Tennessee and through several tornados, and COMPLETE LUCK |
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|is a good way to describe how they work. We lived on a cul de sac |
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|the houses outside of those six (the two that were hit, and the four |
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|on either side) - almost perfectly fine. Maybe some debris, the flower |
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|pots outside might be gone, but as far as actual damage? Almost |
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|nothing. Tornados are absolutely concentrated forces of doom. |
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|They'll go where they want, destroy what they touch, but can easily |
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|u/conspiracy_troll - 1 month |
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|Thank you for sharing this. I can’t imagine how horrific that was. |
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|u/1Fresh_Water - 1 month |
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|That was an amazing read, I could imagine it all perfectly. Thank you. |
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|u/gymnastgrrl - 1 month |
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|There may well have been tornadoes, but also: recentish studies of |
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|hurricane winds have shown that they..... churn a lot more than |
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|previously thought. As in, the wind is constant above ground level, |
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|stream in rapids, so you get little tiny bursts of wind that affect |
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|small areas, close to other areas that aren't so unlucky, which would |
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|help explain why you might have two houses next to each other with |
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|only one blown away leaving just the foundation. Because closer to |
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|the water, the water will tend to level everything. But if it's just |
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|wind, it can be a bit more hit-or-miss. Which is wild. |
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|u/meleetwo - 1 month |
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|this story reminds me of how my papaw and mamaw talked about Camille. |
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|thank you for sharing. |
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|u/Honest-Income1696 - 1 month |
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|I enjoyed your writing and telling of this. You have a talent if you |
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|didn't know. I grew up in Tennessee by way of Mississippi and I felt a |
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|My mom was in Nelson County, VA when this rolled through. She was around |
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|10 years old staying at her grandparents farm on top of a hill. The |
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|wasn’t raining and they woke up and it wasn’t raining but all through |
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|the night the sound of the rain on the tin roof was like someone had a |
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|fire hose pointed right at the roof. People in their homes were |
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|literally swept away in the night. My grandfather went up in a |
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|helicopter during the recovery/rescue phase because the county had |
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|changed so much from the hurricane that maps were useless. So he had to |
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|point out where homes used to be that were swept away by the storm. |
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|u/XROOR - 1 month |
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|Then, her sister *Agnes* made landfall in Virginia June 1973, and |
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|filled Lake Anna (nuclear power plant) within a few months(373,000 acre- |
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|u/fuckyourcanoes - 1 month |
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|My first husband told me stories about how he helped retrieve bodies |
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|he was one year old when Agnes happened. Yes, I was young and stupid. |
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|Emphasis on the stupid. |
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|u/Ill-Diamond4384 - 1 month |
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|Pulled himself up by the bootstraps and helped out, even if he had |
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|u/earslap - 1 month |
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|he had to swim uphill both ways to retrieve the poor bodies. |
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|u/Thoth_the_5th_of_Tho - 1 month |
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|It happens so often, but I'm always caught off guard by how |
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|blatantly people will lie. If I wanted to lie about my past, I'd be |
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|paranoid that people would look into it, so I'd make sure it was as |
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|hard to disprove as possible. But the actual pathological liars |
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|I knew that lake Anna wasn't a natural lake, but I have memories going |
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|when I was there as a kid. That's crazy. |
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|It's a very pleasant lake to swim in during spring and fall because |
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|it being a nuclear cooling pond and all, but still in the right |
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|u/ThePretzul - 1 month |
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|Turns out the warm water there feels nice for both people AND |
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|Just like a hot tub. You leave it too long and it’s a |
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|u/sleevieb - 1 month |
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|That’s from all the farmers and cowshit. I grew up swimming in |
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|u/DrunkenJetPilot - 1 month |
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|Went to a friend's lake house there many years ago, it was almost |
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|Was it safe? being that it's a nuclear cooling pond. |
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|u/DrunkenJetPilot - 1 month |
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|Nope, whole thing is just glowing with radiation and I grew an |
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|u/StarboardSailor - 1 month |
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|LMAO I tried googling and I couldn't find an answer so |
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|figured fuck it ask the source ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ |
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|u/DrunkenJetPilot - 1 month |
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|It's safe, the cooler water doesn't actually contact |
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|Agnes was a Cat 1 hurricane that made landfall in Panama City but was |
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|so destructive to the LeHigh Valley they retired its name. Agnes |
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|nearly wiped out my city in upstate NY. Worst storm we've ever |
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|u/XROOR - 1 month |
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|Wow! Florida?!? I thought it was South Carolina all this time! |
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|My mom's parents got hit with Agnes all the way up in NEPA. People |
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|"Birds drowning in trees" sounds like the 11th biblical plague that the |
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|the blood up to the horse bridles, and the lady who loves the donkey |
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|cocks that shoot like horses. Much more immersive that way." |
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|“Drowned birds? But when Noah escaped the flood we sent a dove? |
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|Either the birds drown or they don’t. Make it make sense.” |
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|Choice deep cuts from the album. You know your way around the book, |
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|Benefits of an evangelical childhood. Happily, am an atheist now |
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|My family lives in Nelson county where Camille ripped through. Hearing |
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|entire families disappearing, etc. For some reason the most eerie moment |
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|was listening to this exchange Family member 1: “what ever happened to |
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|so and so from elementary school?” Family member 2: “remember, nobody |
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|ever saw them after the flood” Family member 1: “oh that’s right” |
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|That night when the storm got bad and the trees started to come crashing |
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|down my father got my little brother and me out of bed and turned the |
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|looking out at him standing at our open front door watching the storm; |
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|just a silhouette backlit by constant lightning against the horizontal |
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|through the entire life of hurricane Camille. It’s an amazing read with |
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|some photos as well. Torn Land - Simpsons. Came out the year after the |
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|hurricane. It has lots of local stories specific to the counties |
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|Just put it in my cart. Thanks! |
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|a downpour. I was on the highway, and BOOM, like someone had turned on |
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|a tap overhead. I immediately turned my wipers on full-blast, but that |
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|did nothing. I couldn't see anything at all past my hood ornament. It |
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|was really scary, I was on a busy highway, and all of a sudden, couldn't |
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|see a thing. I started slowing down, so that I could pull over onto the |
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|the entire windshield was covered in water. I gave up trying to see |
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|just barely see the lines beside me (so, yeah, that was the visibility, |
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|about 5 or 6 feet). I had to stop and pull over, from highway speeds, |
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|Ohio. Had to stop the car on a main road. I could barely make out the |
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|visiting an ex-girlfriend’s family and it randomly started raining so |
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|hard I stopped in the middle of the street. I literally couldn’t even |
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|night before we were all on the beach drunk and joking about a gal named |
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|Camille who was going to blow every guy on base. The next day no one was |
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|laughing, 180 mph winds; however I was hoping that our WWII barracks |
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|Man you know you're cooked when mother nature tries to waterboard you |
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|grandmother used to tell stories about standing next to the river and |
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|watching houses and bodies float by. Here's a good article [Flood of |
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|1916](https://www.ourstate.com/flood-of-1916/) |
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|We lived in New Orleans when Camille hit. It was our first hurricane, so |
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|we stayed. Before it hit landfall it veered East and hit Mississippi |
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|head on. We had a lot of damage but we lived. After this when a |
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|hurricane came our way we went North to get clear. But anyway when |
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|Camille hit we got 30" of rain in about 26 hours so I know what OP is |
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|talking about. Camille was one hell of a storm and if it had hit New |
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|Orleans head on there wouldn't have been anybody left for Katrina. |
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|u/MmmDarkBeer - 1 month |
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|Growing up in south louisiana the hurricanes of legend were Camille and |
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|Audrey. |
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|u/Porchtime_cocktails - 1 month |
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|If you enjoy reading, the book Hurricane Audrey: The Deadly Storm of |
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|1957 was a fantastic read. Also, Last Days of Last Island: The |
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|Hurricane of 1856 is a good read too. |
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|u/Urocyon2012 - 1 month |
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|A friend of mine is a forensic anthropologist who went down to help |
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|remains she worked on was found in a coffin that had been found after |
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|Rita blew through a month after Katrina. The coffin was old and |
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|covered in muck from the bayou. Many coffins have memory tubes |
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|incorporated into their design that contains information about the |
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|deceased (name, date of death, etc). Thankfully, the coffin in which |
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|these remains were found had a memory tube, and they were able to |
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|identify the remains. Apparently, back when Audrey blew through, this |
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|coffin had gotten spit out into the bayou and was never recovered. |
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|Well, 50 years later Rita spit it back out. |
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|u/heirbagger - 1 month |
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|While growing up, my mama always said about my room: “it looks like |
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|Camille came through here!” Now I tell my kid: “it looks like Katrina |
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|came through here!” I wonder what she’ll tell her kid lol |
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|u/chessset5 - 1 month |
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|When I was in Mississippi in 2015(?) there was a rain storm so heavy |
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|that I could not see my hand if I extended it in front of me. It was |
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|just a wave of whiteness from all the water fall. I can’t imagine also |
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|not being able to breath in that condition. It must have been |
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|frightening. |
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|u/Squirrel_Q_Esquire - 1 month |
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|Camille was so powerful that it cut an island in two. Then 36 years |
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|later Katrina said hold my beer. |
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|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_Island |
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|u/kdawg710 - 1 month |
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|Which the us rejoined and made an army base |
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|u/ImpressiveAverage350 - 1 month |
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|I forget if it was Camille or Agnes but my dad told me he was driving |
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|home past the landfill (garbage dump) and had to stop because |
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|*thousands* of rats were crossing the road in front of him to escape the |
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|flooding. |
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|u/ThisAllHurts - 1 month |
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|20-27 inches of rain in 3 to 5 hours. And almost half a foot fell in |
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|just 30 minutes. That’s incomprehensible. |
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|u/GarysCrispLettuce - 1 month |
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|I gotta experience that level of rain |
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|u/Bilore - 1 month |
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|My brother in Christ, did you read the title? The birds were drowning |
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|in the trees |
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|u/ColdIceZero - 1 month |
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|I have it on good faith that OP might not be a bird |
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|u/LectroRoot - 1 month |
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|You don't know that. |
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|u/DigNitty - 1 month |
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|No one knows you’re just a bird on the internet |
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|u/Langstarr - 1 month |
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|Birds aren't real |
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|u/Utopian_Pigeon - 1 month |
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|I beg to differ |
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|u/Fosterbudding1 - 1 month |
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|Username checks out |
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|u/Orange-V-Apple - 1 month |
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|Dee could be on Reddit |
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|u/jurrea619 - 1 month |
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|I believe Dee is more like a fish, the way her eyes are so far |
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|apart |
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|u/marshalcrunch - 1 month |
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|Are you a expert on bird law |
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|u/Plasibeau - 1 month |
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|Probably an Aquarius. |
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|u/7355135061550 - 1 month |
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|Well they don't have hands to cover their mouths with |
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|u/lo_mur - 1 month |
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|Surely their wings could it? |
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|u/Glass1Man - 1 month |
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|Perhaps they were using their wings at the time. Like a |
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|rudimentary lathe or something. |
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|u/fyonn - 1 month |
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|Unexpected galaxyquest… |
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|u/PumpyMcHangerson - 1 month |
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|Carrying coconuts mate. |
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|u/axw3555 - 1 month |
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|African or European swallow? |
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|u/LeapYearFriend - 1 month |
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|"rip to the birds but i'm built different. i would simply not allow |
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|that to happen to me." |
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|u/Orange-V-Apple - 1 month |
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|[That guy who said he’d have survived the Titan sub implosion |
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|because he’s built different](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopul |
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|arOpinion/comments/14jmfj5/i_feel_like_i_wouldve_survived_the_sub_ |
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|accident/) |
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|u/Theorex - 1 month |
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|What in the daffy fucky duck is this dude on? I'm built |
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|different? Unless you're built as a steel I beam you aint. |
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|u/iFeel - 1 month |
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|Are you sure that being built like steel beam is enough to |
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|withstand the surface of the sun temperature and pressure, |
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|similar to standing inside a medium-sized atomic bomb |
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|explosion at the same time? |
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|u/-Nicolai - 1 month |
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|He was engaging in what his native people call “humor”. |
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|u/SpiritDouble6218 - 1 month |
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|I mean, he literally is built different though |
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|u/movzx - 1 month |
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|Humans famously unable to hold their breath or place something over |
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|their head to block rainfall. |
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|u/Coro-NO-Ra - 1 month |
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|This sounds like waterboarding^2 |
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|u/Happy-Engineer - 1 month |
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|Install twelve showerheads in a single cubicle then get inside with |
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|your clothes on |
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|u/sansaman - 1 month |
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|Jeez. You’re supposed to send the invite first. |
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|u/Stop_Sign - 1 month |
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|I appreciate your helpful impulse |
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|u/StandUpForYourWights - 1 month |
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|At Guantanamo they have this in the main resort. Right next to the |
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|u/Missing_10millimeter - 1 month |
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|Right?? That was my immediate reaction as well....I must know. |
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|u/DrunkenJetPilot - 1 month |
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|I'm with you, I love me an intense storm |
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|u/Daemonrealm - 1 month |
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|That level of rain isn’t really rain as we normally experience it. |
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|Think of standing under a heavy flowing waterfall and trying to |
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|breath. But no where to get out of under the waterfall except inside |
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|some sort of cover. |
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|u/WesternOne9990 - 1 month |
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|It would be incredible glory |
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|u/thissexypoptart - 1 month |
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|Put your face in the shower stream? |
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|u/Nazamroth - 1 month |
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|Oh man, i was caught by such a rain once. Was a struggle to even |
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|breathe. My nuke-proof shoes got filled with water as my socks wicked it |
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|in from the air. The houses on the opposite side of the road were just |
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|silhouettes. There was an international festival march in town at the |
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|time, and the local TESCO let everyone in and started handing out their |
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|towel stock because wtf even was that?! |
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|u/VisceralMonkey - 1 month |
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|Camille is "the big one" that anyone growing up on the gulf coast |
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|anywhere always heard about. A real nightmare storm, that and the old |
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|Galveston storm of 1900. |
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|u/baddoggg - 1 month |
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|This whole thread reads like a Stephen King story. |
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|u/OrangePeelsLemon - 1 month |
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|The birds didn't actually drown in the trees. The rain just shorted |
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|their circuitry. |
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|u/Ok_Spend_9630 - 1 month |
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|I thought they were still analog back in the 60s and didn't convert to |
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|digital until the 80s. |
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|u/Affectionate-Memory4 - 1 month |
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|Unfortunately analog can still short. The hand-wired circuitry of |
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|u/elbarto232 - 1 month |
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|r/birdsarentreal for the uninitiated Join the movement! |
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|u/Calm_Memories - 1 month |
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|I really feel for those animals. Must have been absolutely terrifying. |
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|:( |
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|u/pallidamors - 1 month |
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|u/Prophet_of_Fire - 1 month |
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|I need a visual aid for this one. What does theoretical pobable maximum |
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|u/charmbomb11 - 1 month |
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|I grew up across the mountain from Nelson County. My dad was a teenager |
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|and went over the mountain to help find people and clean up after the |
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|rain stopped. He remembers distinctly the smell of rotting animals and |
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|people killed by the flash flooding. Horses, cows, deer, etc. He has a |
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|hard time driving through the area now with some of the things he saw. |
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|u/Clearly_Disabled - 1 month |
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|My mother lived in Louisiana. They climbed on the roof, tied a line to |
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|the Chimney and secured their grandma amd waited. All they could do was |
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|go on one aide od the roof, wait for the eye, and then climb over to the |
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|other side foe the 2nd half. The water reached to the gutters, and they |
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|watched cars, boats, and the dead float past. |
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|video of what this rain was like in a simulated environment would be |
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|cool too. I can not imagine what this would be like so any videos or |
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|photos would be awesome. |
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|u/piandaoist - 1 month |
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|footage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYSNwTYhtDY). Check at around |
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|8:55 to see whiteout conditions caused by the rain that fell in |
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|u/2ByteTheDecker - 1 month |
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|Well fuck that's a hell of a sentence. |
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|u/Kebler - 1 month |
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|Someone posted over on /r/rva the other day about the 14th street bridge |
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|flooding in Richmond during Camille. There was a really amazing story |
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|about Camille that came out of it by /u/americanspirit64. Here's the |
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|post (and an amazing picture of flooding): [https://new.reddit.com/r/rva |
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|en_the_14th_st_bridge_flooded/). |
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|u/WobblyGobbledygook - 1 month |
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|u/Humble-Cantaloupe-73 - 1 month |
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|Tracey Christmas Eve. Mate of mine was already having a Xmas party. He |
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|got so drunk he passed out. Came to in the morning. Lying on a the |
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|floor. Gradually realised there was no roof. Then - no walls. He |
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|thought "My drunken Mates destroyed my house". He staggered upright, |
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|looked around : there were no houses in the street with roof's or walls. |
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|He did not know what had happened. Okay ok - down under we call them |
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|cyclones, and not 'hurricane parties ' either -rather 'Sly Cone events' |
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|u/mtommygunz - 1 month |
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|I have been in a rain storm backpacking that it was raining so hard you |
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|had to out your head down and gulp for air. It was wild. Lasted for |
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|maybe 30 minutes, I can’t imagine it lasting longer than that it was |
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|horrible. |
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|u/elderberry_jed - 1 month |
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|Really? What's that like? That sounds... well hard to imagine |
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|u/mtommygunz - 1 month |
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|Like suffocating. You can’t breathe bc the water comes down so hard |
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|that you’re trying to breathe air but the water is not only taking |
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|the air away but you breathe in water. Running in a heavy rainstorm |
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|is the same thing. But I was walking. And still had to put my head |
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|down to breathe. |
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|u/QueenOfQuok - 1 month |
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|Rain so thick you could swim through it |
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|u/PinballScissor - 1 month |
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|Dallas can get a lot of rain at once sometimes. Obviously not on that |
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|level but I remember a thunderstorm happened coming back from the state |
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|fair and I was riding the train. The doors would open and it would just |
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|come in sideways hitting people halfway down the train. My stop came up |
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|and I got out and was immediately absolutely covered in rain. Every inch |
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|of me. Felt like those big buckets of water at water parks I. The kid |
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|sections that fill up and pour down all at once. I could barely see feet |
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|in front of me. I could barely find my girlfriend. She almost got gushed |
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|down the huge two story stairs. We got in our car and just sat there for |
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|like an hour before it died down enough for us to be able to drive. |
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|u/Tell_Amazing - 1 month |
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|Virgina huh |
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|u/JuvieBeans - 1 month |
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|u/Caped-Baldy_Class-B - 1 month |
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|I grew up in south Mississippi in the '80's and the effects of Camille |
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|were still seen everywhere. Everyone had stories about it, buildings and |
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|total areas would be a ghost town and my parents would just attribute it |
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|to "Camille". As a kid it's spooky, like Camille was a ghost still |
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|haunting the land and the people. |
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|u/ThisAllHurts - 1 month |
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|I was a *very* little kid visiting some family in Gulf Shores in the |
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|‘80s, and there were whole parts of the state (and esp the beach) that |
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|still weren’t rebuilt. Everyone just said “Camille” for about two |
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|decades. It earned its one name with Andrew and Katrina (and I |
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|guess Sandy, if you’re a New Yorker unaccustomed to it). |
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|u/Gambler_Eight - 1 month |
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|Id love to experience this, for like 20 seconds. |
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|u/scribbyshollow - 1 month |
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|What the fu..wh..what!? Your telling me it can rain so hard you can |
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|drown? I have seen some.down pours in my day but not like that. |
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|u/Major_MattMason - 1 month |
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|In August of 1969 I was six years old. My father had gotten a new job |
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|and the family was moving from Starkville, MS to Lynchburg, VA. We got |
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|to experience Camille twice. Once leaving Mississippi and a second time |
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|after arriving in Lynchburg. It made quite the impression on a six year |
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|old. The rush to get everything on the moving company's truck. Leaving |
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|Mississippi on a very rainy windy day. In Virginia getting our stuff off |
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|the moving company’s truck without it getting ruined. We couldn't go |
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|outside to get out of the way of the unpacking and it seemed every adult |
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|(not just family) was a little freaked out that the James River was |
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|rising so fast. |
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|u/ds5500s - 1 month |
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|The sound… |
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|u/ThisAllHurts - 1 month |
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|I’m guessing it would just be one indistinct, deafening roar for hours |
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|u/bambarby - 1 month |
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|Wtf kinda title is that lol |
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|u/JackhorseBowman - 1 month |
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|Dang I live in VA and all I ever heard about was how crazy Andrew was. |
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|u/Robynsxx - 1 month |
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|Okay. I 100% when to experience this in a simulated environment. Does |
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|that make me crazy? |
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|u/Top_Explanation_1748 - 1 month |
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|In Nelson County, bodies were found in trees because the rivers had |
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|flooded so high. 114 dead in just a couple of days. |
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|u/Tricky-Gemstone - 1 month |
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|That is fucking terrifying. Holy shit. |
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|u/PickleWineBrine - 1 month |
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|Was in the Air Force. Stood outside for 2 minutes in Biloxi during |
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|hurricane Ivan. It was hard to breath, felt like your breath was being |
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|ripped away... *intense*. |
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|u/Friendly-Local-1859 - 1 month |
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|My cousins left the house because of the rising water. They all drowned. |
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|The water stopped rising and they would have been safe if they stayed in |
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|the house. |
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|u/scissorrunnerX - 1 month |
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|Check out the story of the town Massie Mill. It got deleted by this |
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|hurricane. The stories of some of the people that went looking for |
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|survivors is really wild. Boulders the size of house due to the land |
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|slide. A high school couple, he dropped his gf off before the storm went |
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|home and heard what happened tried to get back to her but the mountain |
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|town was completely washed out. Its incredible to try and imagine the |
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|amount of water that fell down in a short amount of time. |
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|u/Bokbreath - 1 month |
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|>reports were received of birds drowning in trees, That doesn't |
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|mean it happened. |
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|u/edcross - 1 month |
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|“you’ve actually seen people looting raping and eating each other?” |
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|“No we haven’t actually seen that Tom, we’re just reporting it” |
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|u/GetsGold - 1 month |
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|[Reference](https://youtu.be/wCkchBXiaOE?si=ZOWajR16H_E3_v0M&t=25s). |
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|u/shepherdofthesheeple - 1 month |
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|I’m guessing that they couldn’t fly in the rain because it was so |
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|heavy and were forced to stay on branches with rising water that |
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|drowned them. |
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|u/XionLord - 1 month |
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|Or raining to heavily with water covering their face. Might not have |
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|been an all at once. Bit of moisture, bit of moisture, can't expell |
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|it from lungs because breathing in heavily brings more in. |
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|u/EggCzar - 1 month |
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|Bird waterboarding A friend whose family owns farmland in VA said |
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|“there's still some farm equipment up in trees from that on our |
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|land.” |
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|u/LynxJesus - 1 month |
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|Good point, if it's coming down so hard you need to cup your hands |
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|over your face to even breathe, it's hard to imagine you'd have much |
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|visibility on what's going on in the trees. This being said, there |
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|must have been a lot of dead drowned birds by the time the weather |
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|cleared a bit and probably no other explanation as to how that |
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|happened. Source : I was not alive back then and also didn't click |
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|on the article |
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|u/material_mailbox - 1 month |
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|Sounds like virgina was pretty wet |
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|u/TheReignOfChaos - 1 month |
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|You're thinking of the other state, Wet Virgina |
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|u/Eliseo120 - 1 month |
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|Why would you be outside in a hurricane? |
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|u/missouriblooms - 1 month |
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|One minute your inside, big wind and your outside all of a sudden |
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|u/orange_wraith - 1 month |
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|As a Florida native this has me keeled over laughing. |
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|u/VisceralMonkey - 1 month |
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|Accurate |
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|u/K4NNW - 1 month |
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|Because the house got washed away. |
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|u/jawshoeaw - 1 month |
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|I remember a big storm in North Carolina back in the 90s where we opened |
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|out mouths up to the sky and they filled with warm water! In seconds . |
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|u/Stranghanger - 1 month |
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|I remember this film being shown in grade school about this storm. |
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|https://youtu.be/J49V7gQyaxU?si=7JKlvxP3plgMdEHV A lady named Camille |
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|u/Gay_andConfused - 1 month |
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|Looking through those photos on the wiki page is Wild! Even cinder |
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|block buildings were nothing more than rubble! I was born in Virginia |
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|that year, a mere 3 months earlier. I'd ask my Mom if she remembers the |
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|storm, but she's lost her memory at this point, so it would just be |
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|frustrating for her. Our area must have avoided the worst of it, though |
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|as our neighborhood is full of houses built in the 30's and sits right |
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|on the bay. |
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|u/Strive-- - 1 month |
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|Wow, it's like it was a floating, falling lake. |
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|u/malakamanforyou - 1 month |
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|Virginia got so wet they coined the phrase “Virginia is for lovers” |
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|u/hdjkkckkjxkkajnxk - 1 month |
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|I am now having to force myself to breathe. |
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|u/joegetto - 1 month |
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|Well this answers a question I’ve had for a very long time. |
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|u/thefrostryan - 1 month |
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|This this the storm my FIL talks about, grew up in Hampton, VA |
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|u/RhetoricalAnswer-001 - 1 month |
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|Unrelated, but Virgina is one of the best portmanteaus I've ever heard. |
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|Well done (consciously or not), sir! |
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|u/athohhdg - 1 month |
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|I've read a similar account (book was written before '69) about a |
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|rainfall event where people had to cover their faces to breathe. It was |
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|estimated to be 18-24 inches per hour, to put a number to it. Even if it |
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|lasts for 10 or 15 minutes at that intensity is enough to cause massive |
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|flooding and washouts. |
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|u/-noiseg33k- - 1 month |
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|Virgina |
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|u/B1matth - 1 month |
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|that’s one wet Virgina |
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|u/Solid_Waste - 1 month |
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|The way the title is worded makes it sound like meteorologists still |
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|aren't sure if it's possible despite the fact it actually happened. |
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|u/UsualFirefighter9 - 1 month |
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|They *think* 5inches of rain fell in half an hour at the highest point |
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|of the storm, but a boatload of rain gauges got destroyed in the |
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|process and, well, nobody was standing over them at the time |
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|recording. Scientific models say that's the heaviest rainstorm ever, |
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|but there's always a chance Mother Nature gonna pop out and say "hold |
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|my beer." |
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|u/Ascended_Hobo - 1 month |
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|With a corkscrew like propeller on a motor, like a boat, could one swim |
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|upwards in such conditions? |
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|u/QuietGiygas56 - 1 month |
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|So basically rainworld but irl |
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|u/nekonotjapanese - 1 month |
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|Probably the wettest we’ve ever seen in terms of water |
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|u/NativeMasshole - 1 month |
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|>Virgina 😏 |
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|u/Weak_Sloth - 1 month |
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|Phew, thank the King I’m English; drowning in Virgina sounds dreadful! |
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|u/Kingtutstits - 1 month |
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|Climate same |
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|u/_Frog_Enthusiast_ - 1 month |
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|Average UK summer |
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|u/melance - 1 month |
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|Sounds like an average summer day on the gulf coast. |
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|u/Soaptowelbrush - 1 month |
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|That really doesn’t sound possible? |
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|u/Cool_Cartographer_39 - 1 month |
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|I was about 7 living in Arlington at that time. I don't recall it |
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|u/j4kefr0mstat3farm - 1 month |
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|Arlington is 2 hours away from the part of the state that got hit the |
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|u/MyCuntSmellsLikeHam - 1 month |
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|Your parents probably got out of town like other smart people and you |
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|saw it as visiting family, nothing noteworthy |
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|u/HichardRammond - 1 month |
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|Mustn’t of happened then. |
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|u/DrunkenFailer - 1 month |
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|The people found when they stood under a roof, they were fine. |
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|u/captrudeboy - 1 month |
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|Dang....I kinda wanna walk thru such a rain |
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|u/Fit_Walk_5372 - 1 month |
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|Getting wet in a stormy 69 doesn't sound so bad |
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|u/okeleydokelyneighbor - 1 month |
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|[was it chubby rain?](https://youtu.be/SkbHfeWfxHw?si=z4_eAJE9_aLJhBbR) |
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|u/namenramen69 - 1 month |
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|u/MidKnightshade - 1 month |
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|u/homeycuz - 1 month |
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|How does cupping your hands around your face help you breathe? |
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|u/Ghostly_Spirits - 1 month |
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|I’m guessing it means if you walked outside the rain density was so |
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|high it’d be like walking underwater. So cupping would create an |
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|umbrella over your mouth to have enough air underneath |
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|u/homeycuz - 1 month |
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|You are a great communicator. This makes perfect sense now. For |
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|u/mop_bucket_bingo - 1 month |
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|Just…out of curiosity…how does one establish that a bird drowned in a |
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|u/mdsnbelle - 1 month |
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|They probably found them in their nests. |
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|Ok so CAT 5 winds.. horizontal rain.. birds found…in the tree? In |
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|their nest? |
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|u/mdsnbelle - 1 month |
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|I don’t know. The edible just kicked in. |
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|Why you no stay inside? |
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|u/Dragoness42 - 1 month |
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|Who TF would go outside in that kind of weather to discover that you had |
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|to breathe through cupped hands? |
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|u/sovietbeardie - 1 month |
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|Damn. How many inches? |
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|u/UsualFirefighter9 - 1 month |
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|Official 27 but a whoooole lotta gauges broke, so 40 is just |
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|"speculation." |
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|u/PrestigiousPea6088 - 1 month |
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|rain world |
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|u/Leroy--Brown - 1 month |
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|Virgina hehehe |
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|u/CelebrationKey9656 - 1 month |
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|That's fuckN insane |
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|u/Jizzturnip - 1 month |
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|Virgina must have been soaked |
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|u/Morex2000 - 1 month |
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|How they know birds drowned in trees? |
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|u/MightWooden7292 - 1 month |
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|when mother nature decides to waterboard you |
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|u/Traquer - 1 month |
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|Central Texas will take that with pleasure. Super dry there! |
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|u/heil_spezzzzzzzzzzzz - 1 month |
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|Where's Virgina? |
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|u/TwistedRainbowz - 1 month |
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|If people had to cup their faces to allow them to breathe, is it fair to |
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|assume that all other creatures perished? |
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|u/Hanginon - 1 month |
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|In the heart of it all, the story of **[Nelson County |
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|Va.](https://www.c-ville.com/a-flood-in-the-mountains-50-years-later- |
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|nelson-county-remembers-camilles-devastation/)**. |
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|u/Additional-Top-8199 - 1 month |
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|I report that I am skeptical about ‘reports’ of birds drowned in trees. |
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