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|u/Multikillionaire67 - 1 month
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|They not gonna get locked up, they got money.
|u/CharlesDickensABox - 1 month
|
|Nor do maximum penalties have anything to do with what a particular
|defendant will receive. If JK Rowling had fifteen separate felonies, a
|murder conviction, and was out on probation when she did this, she
|might get the maximum. The maximum penalty is just that, the sentence
|that a judge would give to the most hardened, unrepentant,
|incorrigible defendant imaginable.  What reporters should be reporting
|is the median sentence given to a first time offender given similar
|circumstances, but that takes research and knowledge and is
|substantially less sexy for clickbait than putting a great big number
|in the headline.
|u/CMDRRaijiin - 1 month
|
|I agree, but, I think they should take her reach into account. Being
|cyber bullied by Beth from 2nd period is a lot different than a
|literal billionaire with the reach of the entire world stage with
|millions of followers, and news media. I would argue being bullied
|by Rowling is far more detrimental, and therefore her sentence
|should have more weight and severity.
|u/unique_passive - 1 month
|
|Definitely. The circumstances are extraordinary. We’re talking
|about someone with reach in the 10s of millions making false
|accusations about someone which could very reasonably result in
|her murder in her home country if someone believes it. The sheer
|amount of power being flippantly misused and directed against one
|individual should be taken into account for the severity of the
|crime.
|u/Mercerskye - 1 month
|
|Apologies at the front for sounding pedantic, but it really
|doesn't help when our phrasing is similar to that of these
|bigots. Accusation and allegation aren't too far removed from
|each other in definition, but we don't do any favors in the
|discussion by saying she's been *accused* of being trans. That
|implies that there actually is something wrong with it. Maybe
|just a silly hang up on my end, but when we casually use words
|like that, there's just this vibe that some people actually
|would be fine with her being mistreated if she was "guilty."
|Not necessarily saying you would be, just in general.
|u/LucasWatkins85 - 1 month
|
|Meanwhile [Laurel Hubbard Makes History as First Transgender
|Athlete to Compete in the Olympics.](https://knovhov.com/first-
|transgender-athlete-to-compete-in-the-olympics/)
|u/Finalwingz - 1 month
|
|And she failed all of her lifts. But trans athletes big
|advantage
|u/ZovemseSean - 1 month
|
|Yeah for real, JK has far more influence than some random person
|in your social periphery.
|u/Mandatory_Pie - 1 month
|
|If anything is going to get the penalty closer to the maximum,
|this is probably it. Between these individuals and the media
|outlets who uncritically spread the disinformation without fact
|checking, a percentage of the world learned about her through the
|lens of lies attempting to incriminate her and invalidate her her
|achievements, while simultaneously expressing her to very real
|danger in her own country if people there believed the lies. But
|the same people have been behaving this way for years, and have
|subjected many people to the same harassment. The main differences
|here are the scale, the fact that this time they targeted a cis
|person.
|u/SOUTHPAWMIKE - 1 month
|
|The same reasons she (and Elon) absolutely should face harsher
|consequences are unfortunately the exact reasons she won't.
|u/3vs3BigGameHunters - 1 month
|
|I'd pay $19.95 for a PPV of a guillotine-fest.
|u/C_Hawk14 - 1 month
|
|She's also donating money to further this cause. She's paying
|people to lobby against trans rights.
|u/Stiebah - 1 month
|
|I follow your logic BUT, that would mean that from then till
|forever the court system would have to take in account somebodies
|instagram followers… more followers = harsher punishment?
|Instagram follower based justice system? Does that NOT sound like
|a blackmirror dystopia to you?
|u/FreddoMac5 - 1 month
|
|For Elon to be extradited what he did would have to be illegal in
|the US and what he said is absolutely not against the law here. He
|has zero chance of being extradited and the same applies to every
|person in the US.
|u/ShelterSensitive7400 - 1 month
|
|A nice little exception to this is actually OJ Simpson for his
|robbery/assault case. He got sentenced to 33 years in prison for
|robbery/assault/kidnapping despite being technically a first-time
|offender. A less notorious person would have gotten far less.
|u/CharlesDickensABox - 1 month
|
|It's not wrong to think of that as a gigantic fuck you from the
|justice system for beating the murder rap.
|u/VanGroteKlasse - 1 month
|
|Well, he was black, that's the reason! /s
|u/to_a_better_self - 1 month
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|But I want to dream!
|u/lizard_kibble - 1 month
|
|I only upvoted to get this to 666 votes. Because those two are
|fucking evil
|u/CharlesDickensABox - 1 month
|
|🤘
|u/throwawayyourfun - 1 month
|
|Well, JK has certainly been incorrigible and unrepentant. I don't
|think that she's going to change her bigoted stance on it because of
|this.
|u/Yorspider - 1 month
|
|JK Rowling has a history of this behavior, and her targeting a
|minority demographic makes it a hate crime.
|u/youdontknowjacq - 1 month
|
|Wouldn’t you argue that JK is unrepentant and incorrigible, likely
|to reoffend? She’s basically the poster child for transphobia views
|on the internet
|u/BobbyRayBands - 1 month
|
|Its only a headline because people dont understand laws at all. The
|Westboro baptist church has been operating with much worse slogans
|for far longer and nothing has happened to them. J.K. Rowling saying
|she shouldn't be able to compete in the Olympics will result in
|nothing happening to her because as strange as this might sound an
|American posting online isn't suddenly subject to another countries
|laws. I'm aware I'll get downvoted for this because this is reddit
|and no one likes facts they just want their idea of "justice" meted
|out but free speech doesnt just apply when you want it to like
|saying Trump should die which I've seen plenty of times on Reddit.
|u/CharlesDickensABox - 1 month
|
|The difference is that Europe and the UK have far, far fewer
|protections for bigoted speech than the US does. This would be an
|extremely uphill case in the US, but there may be some validity to
|it in the UK, though I've not read enough UK law to know for
|certain.
|u/PsychologicalTwo1784 - 1 month
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|She's not American
|u/LordValcron - 1 month
|
|You just summarized 'most' justice systems with nine words, congrats
|friend.
|u/Odd_Combination_1925 - 1 month
|
|They will probably face fines especially if it’s in the UK, UK
|defamation suits usually side with the plaintiffs
|u/Ilovekittens345 - 1 month
|
|It's insane how much power the UK legal system has, they can force
|anybody from any country to travel to the UK to be put on trial
|there for breaking their defamation laws. But in this case it's a
|good thing. And I look forward to seeing Musk be locked up in the
|Tower of London. /s
|u/Odd_Combination_1925 - 1 month
|
|We will never get that lucky those laws are made to benefit both
|of them not hurt them
|u/funnyfacemcgee - 1 month
|
|Yeah there's a zero percent chance they see consequences. 
|u/taxi_driver - 1 month
|
|That's the sad part but at least if Imane gets to push them at least a
|little bit into being accountable, that would be a win for the people.
|Elon and J.K. go always too far behind their little screens thinking
|the can tilt the course of public opinion to a negative track and not
|have any consequences.
|u/omniman267 - 1 month
|
|And because that’s a crazy thing to be put in jail for
|u/na-uh - 1 month
|
|This is in the EU. They actually enforce their laws.
|u/tylersburden - 1 month
|
|The UK is not in the EU.
|u/Dazzling_Outcome_436 - 1 month
|
|The suit is in France, iirc.
|u/NotYourReddit18 - 1 month
|
|But as far as I'm aware neither JK nor Elon are in France, and
|at least for Elon I highly doubt that the USA justice system
|would follow a request by the French justice system to surrender
|him to them for the charge in question.
|u/gimpwiz - 1 month
|
|Right? France will never be able to extradite an American for
|mocking someone online. Rich or not. Being rich helps of
|course but regardless, the worst they can do is cross a
|tourism destination off someone's list.
|u/Juicer2012 - 1 month
|
|The EU isn't a country and here in Belgium, you'd be wrong. Pretty
|sure you're wrong overall
|u/saintsfan92612 - 1 month
|
|[Can you imagine a world where people with money were treated just
|like people without money?](https://frinkiac.com/video/S04E21/-fpLwli8
|7-tB5YP1E0i8tM_F9Ds=.gif)
|u/inhugzwetrust - 1 month
|
|She's all talk, if she was actually sent to jail she would cry like a
|little bitch.
|u/Icy-Lobster-203 - 1 month
|
|If this is a civil lawsuit, then jail isn't a possibility. Civil
|lawsuits are for monetary compensation, not jail time.
|u/Ridiculisk1 - 1 month
|
|Oh if only it was 'stating an opinion on twitter'. You know it's
|more than that, everyone else knows it's more than that. Why bother
|being obtuse about it?
|u/2FistsInMyBHole - 1 month
|
|Obviously your comment is "more than that" too - maybe you should
|get fined and go to jail also.
|u/Jashugan456 - 1 month
|
|The point is you shouldbt get jail time for speech that fucked
|u/Sinister_Plots - 1 month
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|Cyber bullying is not protected free speech.
|u/MayMaytheDuck - 1 month
|
|Musk and Rowling have huge platforms and perpetuated the lie that
|this woman is trans. They certainly put her at risk.
|u/JacquelineHeid - 1 month
|
|Send her to Azkaban 🔥
|u/The_Shitty_Admiral - 1 month
|
|She'd feel right at home with the dementors
|u/toothofthebuddha - 1 month
|
|And Prison Mike
|u/MAJOR__ZEN - 1 month
|
|![gif](giphy|NuWH6LTqf7xw4)
|u/Yokuz116 - 1 month
|
|"I kidnapped the President's daughter!"
|u/Bulbafette - 1 month
|
|Prison Mike, where did you pinch him?
|u/Briguy_fieri - 1 month
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|I thought he never got caught though
|u/PoorFilmSchoolAlumn - 1 month
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|Prison Mike isn’t his REAL name!
|u/-prairiechicken- - 1 month
|
|Ya godda good life! 👿
|u/Taweret - 1 month
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|You would be da belle of da ball
|u/DantifA - 1 month
|
|Dont drop tha soap!
|u/Watch4whaspus - 1 month
|
|Do you really expect me to not push you up against the wall,
|beeyotch?
|u/Few-Signal5148 - 1 month
|
|![gif](giphy|aZeFIjI9hNcJ2)
|u/TheG-What - 1 month
|
|And the gruel!
|u/IsThatHearsay - 1 month
|
|Problem is she'd be free to leave at any time (provided she can get
|off the island) as she'd be entirely unsupervised there, dementors
|wouldn't pay her a single mind, given she has no soul.
|u/jeremy1015 - 1 month
|
|She’d probably eat them
|u/Special_Lemon1487 - 1 month
|
|Dementors: We’d rather you didn’t.
|u/axelrexangelfish - 1 month
|
|Dementors: we already lost poor Eddie as her patronus, we’ve
|suffered enough.
|u/Jibbajabbajam - 1 month
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|Those poor dementors, they deserve better
|u/Zelgius87 - 1 month
|
|I don't know, I have a feeling she will discriminate against the
|dementors for their asexualness.
|u/Apprehensive_Low4865 - 1 month
|
|"Show me your genitals eldritch abomination!"
|u/Unabashable - 1 month
|
|Honestly a kiss from JK Rowling sounds worse. 
|u/axelrexangelfish - 1 month
|
|This!
|u/FuriNorm - 1 month
|
|And the mold
|u/Publius69420 - 1 month
|
|I think you meant demented
|u/axelrexangelfish - 1 month
|
|Oh good. I salute you for being one of the five people in the
|world who haven’t read her books. Don’t bother. Theres a ton of
|actual literature instead.
|u/Publius69420 - 1 month
|
|I mean I knew what you were talking about, I’ve seen the movies
|just not read the books. I was trying to make a funny because
|there are no doubt demented people in prison too lol.
|u/Triforceboy21 - 1 month
|
|Woah, way too far. At least the dementors have fashion sense.
|u/mrwildesangst - 1 month
|
|You don’t think that woman would suck the soul out of every living
|creature she saw? Poor dementors would starve to death.
|u/Nuggzulla01 - 1 month
|
|ahhhh shit, DEMENTOR LIVES MATTER?!
|u/mrwildesangst - 1 month
|
|They gotta eat too 👏
|u/Unabashable - 1 month
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|They’re black too. I don’t see why not. 
|u/Rohnne - 1 month
|
|That would probably end on dementors going on strike.
|u/Frank_Gallagher_ - 1 month
|
|The thought of dementors floating around with picket signs is pretty
|funny.
|u/Unabashable - 1 month
|
|Hell. No. Make her go. 
|u/axelrexangelfish - 1 month
|
|Lock her up! (Somewhere else!)
|u/QuestioningHuman_api - 1 month
|
|![gif](giphy|aZeFIjI9hNcJ2)
|u/Lumpy_Branch_4835 - 1 month
|
|I wonder if they have a extradition treaty with G.B.
|u/LilG1984 - 1 month
|
|Where she'll be shown Harry potter memes & readings of the cursed
|child.
|u/Budget_Llama_Shoes - 1 month
|
|Underrated comment
|u/Didact67 - 1 month
|
|I have a feeling the UK would reject the extradition request if she were
|convicted. She just wouldn’t be able to travel to France again.
|u/MondayNightHugz - 1 month
|
|To France and possibly the EU.
|u/Avaric1994 - 1 month
|
|No, please take her. We don't want her anymore.
|u/Avaric1994 - 1 month
|
|Reintroduce the old penal colony system. Great idea!
|u/Square_Site8663 - 1 month
|
|On behalf of all Australia. No. And I don’t even live there.
|But I doubt they’ll be upset with this answer.
|u/Best-Palpitation-420 - 1 month
|
|As a brit myself, please don't leave us with her
|u/fascinatedcharacter - 1 month
|
|Probably apart from Ireland
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|What reason would they give for denying extradition? It's not like
|it's politically motivated or that there are human rights concerns
|about deporting her to France. There is a more extensive list of bars
|[here](https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/extradition-from-uk). It
|would be interesting to discuss if any are likely to apply.
|u/infinitemonkeytyping - 1 month
|
|Because France is not very helpful in extraditing people to other
|western countries, and can be seen as a haven for criminals (see
|Roman Polanski). As such, other countries are unlikely to extradite
|their citizens to France.
|u/JonnyBolt1 - 1 month
|
|Why didn't France extradite Polanski anyway? Usually countries
|object to USA's death penalty but that shouldn't apply. This is
|news to me that France prosecutes people (citizens of other
|countries, even) for the crime of cyberbullying somebody. Won't
|the defendants have to show up for the trial? I can't imagine
|Rowling, nevermind Musk, will ever show. And if somehow convicted
|won't pay a dime (or 0.1 Euro) to France or spend a second in
|prison.
|u/axelrexangelfish - 1 month
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|Art.
|u/axelrexangelfish - 1 month
|
|/s
|u/chaunceyvonfontleroy - 1 month
|
|France generally doesn’t extradite its own citizens. Polanski
|has French citizenship.
|u/coincoinprout - 1 month
|
|Not "generally". France doesn't extradite its own citizens,
|it's in the law.
|u/chaunceyvonfontleroy - 1 month
|
|I wrote “generally” because France is a member of the EAW.
|That get complex. It’s not technically extradition, but it
|has a similar practical effect.
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|Countries are free not to enter into extradition treaties with
|France if they so wish. The UK, however, has decided to do so.
|Given it has decided to do so, the UK can't simply pick and choose
|what people it wants to deport à la carte. There are clear rules
|that need to be followed.
|u/infinitemonkeytyping - 1 month
|
|>the UK can't simply pick and choose what people it wants to
|deport à la carte. Actually, they can. That is why court
|hearings occur to determine whether to extradite those on
|warrants from foreign countries.
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|Hearing a case, where the law is applied, isn't deciding à la
|carte. My point is that they can't simply choose not to deport
|someone because they don't want to. They need a legal basis to
|refuse.
|u/JustReadingNewGuy - 1 month
|
|They can, and they *will*, if they decide that keeping JK
|out of prison is more important than the extradition treaty.
|Sure, they won't say explicitly that, they will come up with
|some formalist legal bullshit to do it, but they sure as
|hell can.
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|Well, sure, if the UK Government decides to tear up a
|treaty to protect JK Rowling, that is in their power to
|do. Do you actually think that is likely?
|u/JustReadingNewGuy - 1 month
|
|How likely is *France* to tear up the treaty in
|retaliation of the UK deciding to keep JK Rowling, a
|billionaire, out of prison? Bc I don't think that's very
|likely. See, this is what I see happening if France
|actually convicts her to prison time, instead of just
|some fine or whatever (in the "just a fine" scenario she
|will bitch about it but ultimately pay it to make it go
|away, I believe): The UK and her enormous team of
|lawyers will contest every single letter of the
|judgment, and they will try to tie it up in courts for
|as long as they can, preferably until people can forget
|it ever happened so it can prescribe, or be converted to
|a fine or whatever "nothing really changes" scenario
|that is possible when talking about UK and French law.
|If, by some miracle, British bureaucracy fails them and
|it has a very speedy judgment, I do believe it's more
|likely that the UK will rule in her favour for some
|bullshit reason. Even if it doesn't, I *truly* doubt
|they will stop her from leaving the country, so she will
|just...move to a country that has no extradition treaty
|with France. But if the UK rule in favour of JK for
|some bullshit reason, then the ball is in France's
|hands, at which point they can decide to say "fuck it
|don't care" or to pursue this and call the British out
|on their bullshit. If they *do* decide to call out
|the UK, then this entire crap will be tied up in
|international courts that *have way more important
|things to judge* so... In the end nothing really changes
|and JK just can't go to France... That is, if she's
|convicted. And that's very much not a sure thing.
|u/llIicit - 1 month
|
|They can make up any basis they want. They, also, literally
|*can* just ignore it. What is France going to do in
|response? You make it seem like France can demand the
|citizens of other countries and there is nothing anyone can
|do about it. Especially billionaires at that. Incredibly
|naive lol
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|The UK government can change the law to whatever it likes.
|Judges, however, can't simply ignore the law and rule
|however they wish. Deportation cases aren't heard by the
|UK Government, they are heard by judges.
|u/Enlowski - 1 month
|
|I’m amazed there are people that actually think her or Elon are
|actually in any danger of going to jail. There’s a 0% chance of it
|happening.
|u/Wellfillyouup - 1 month
|
|What’s more concerning is that people are in favor of the idea of
|jailing someone for speaking publicly on a matter of public
|concern. Then again, given my recent 7 day ban for typing the
|former name of a cheesesteak shop in Philly, I guess I shouldn’t
|be too surprised.
|u/DeadlySight - 1 month
|
|The main reason would be “Why is she subject to France’s laws in the
|first place?” If I shit talk Kim Jong Un online should I be
|extradited to North Korea?
|u/PaneczkoTron - 1 month
|
|She's rich and donates a lot of her money. They don't wanna lose a
|source of revenue. Also the UK is just TERF island, a significant
|portion of the country agrees with her
|u/anschlitz - 1 month
|
|She’s rich. You can stop there.
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|When you say "they", who are you referring to specifically? I very
|much doubt that the Crown Prosecution Service or the presiding
|judge care how wealthy she is or how much tax she's paying. It's
|not like they are going to personally benefit in any way from her
|staying or personally lose out by her being deported, certainly
|not to such an extent that it would make sense to bend/break the
|rules. Whether the majority of the country agrees with her or not
|is totally irrelevant. Deportation isn't a process decided by a
|popular vote; it's a legal process with clear rules.
|u/Mrkayne - 1 month
|
|I’d like to state up front that I do agree with you, but happy
|to play devils advocate. Fundamentally, I feel like it
|comes down to the rules for thee but not for me type of thing.
|The justice system more often than not, has less to do with your
|level of guilt and more to do with how expensive your lawyer(s)
|is(are). While the scenario with Jo, seems to be clear cut
|guilty, the evidence is available for anyone to see, the crux
|really comes down to the sentencing side of things. While as you
|said the people directly in charge of whether she would get
|deported or not, don’t benefit from her charity, they have
|bosses to answer to, who have bosses to answer to, who may
|directly benefit from the charity. At the levels that we are
|talking about, politics have huge impacts on the outcome.
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|The UK wouldn't be sentencing her. If France requested
|deportation, the UK would simply be deciding whether to grant
|this request or not. The CPS and Judiciary are independent and
|not politically appointed. Bending the law to Rowling's
|benefit seems much more likely to damage the relevant
|individuals' careers than help them. Politicians have huge
|influence when it comes to changing the law but very little
|influence in specific cases. Even if a politician could
|influence the decision, it isn't obvious that they are
|incentivised to do so. The Labour Party aren't exactly anti-
|LGBT. Compromising judicial independence to help someone
|accused of cyberbullying would not go down well with their
|base, and it's not like they'd get credit from the Right Wing
|either. They have nothing to gain here. Far easier just to
|leave it to the judges and wash their hands of the whole
|thing. Finally, on a personal level, I can't see Keir
|Starmer (a former Director of Public Prosecutions) being okay
|with the Government meddling in this way. It runs contrary to
|deeply held principles of his and it would damage his own
|credibility.
|u/Mrkayne - 1 month
|
|You make valid points lol as I said I already agreed with
|your position, but living in a world where there’s no
|accountability for the 1% has a tendency to make you
|cynical.
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|That's fair, I totally get you were playing devil's
|advocate, and it's a fun conversation. I understand
|people being cynical, but I do think it goes too far
|sometimes. People are so committed to the idea that
|everything is awful that they end up falling into bizarre
|conspiracy theories, which would only make sense if
|everybody involved acted against their own self-interest.
|u/sean0883 - 1 month
|
|Indeed. Trump was literally found guilty in 34 felonies,
|but because the SCOTUS hinted that he *might* have
|immunity for even a small portion of it but refused to
|elaborate: He was just... never sentenced for the crimes.
|They legal system just collapses around these people for
|some reason.
|u/SweetBearCub - 1 month
|
|> Indeed. Trump was literally found guilty in 34
|felonies, but because the SCOTUS hinted that he might
|have immunity for even a small portion of it but refused
|to elaborate: He was just... never sentenced for the
|crimes. I realize that keeping up with Trump's legal
|stuff is a full time job in and of itself, but his
|sentencing is still set for September 18th 2024. It was
|just rescheduled after the SC decided that Trump did
|have "limited" immunity (with very weak limits), but
|also in another petition surprisingly declined to hear
|his plea to overturn his convictions or to prevent him
|from being sentenced for them.
|https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/trump-
|sentencing-date-delay-proposal/index.html
|u/Pants_Pierre - 1 month
|
|Look at this guy thinking the rich have the same standard of law
|applied to them as the proletariat!
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|How much money is she giving to whom? That's just silly, as is
|this..."a significant portion of the country agrees with her"
|About what, exactly?
|u/deesmutts88 - 1 month
|
|I mean if we wanna get down to the bottom line of it all, a
|billionaire is just never going to jail for anything other than
|ripping off other billionaires. Just ain’t happening. It’s trash
|but it’s the way the world works. These grubs have too many
|friends and connections in high places.
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|This much is true, and I honestly don't expect much to come of
|this other than her shutting her damn yap for a while. But you
|know what? I'll take it.
|u/suavaleesko - 1 month
|
|Has anyone been successfully prosecuted using this law and served
|time?
|u/the-moving-finger - 1 month
|
|I have no idea. My understanding is that this is a French law. I
|have no opinion on the merits of the French case; my comment was
|solely focused on whether or not the UK would be willing to deport
|her, assuming France asked them to do so.
|u/Wellfillyouup - 1 month
|
|Not politically motivated, you say? They spoke on an issue that
|is, like it or not (I don’t), full-on in the public spotlight and
|the subject of significant debate. The idea that such speech could
|be criminalized is patently offensive, at least as an American who
|has studied our Constitution. Granted, I understand the Old World
|has more tolerance for actual fascism and the stifling of individual
|speech but, yes, I think countries should laugh at extradition
|requests that effectively say “your person said something we don’t
|like, we wish to jail them”.
|u/Mugiwaras - 1 month
|
|Its crazy to me that so many people here want them jailed by a
|foreign country over mean words online. I'd expect that from
|people from countries in the middle east or China for example, not
|Western countries.
|u/felldestroyed - 1 month
|
|She may not be able to be extradited (I really don't know), but she
|does own businesses and likely property in the EU. This can all be
|seized I would assume if she doesn't comply with civil/criminal
|trials.
|u/JesseAster - 1 month
|
|Imagine being banned from an entire country because you're such a
|hateful piece of shit lmao
|u/walkman312 - 1 month
|
|Each country is different, and I don’t know French law, but there
|are long arm, international, jurisdiction statutes for this kind of
|claim.
|u/walkman312 - 1 month
|
|I think it’s a civil suit anyway. No jail time.
|u/lexm - 1 month
|
|Or any country that has extradition treaties with France.
|u/davidolson22 - 1 month
|
|She'll never even see a handcuff
|u/wishwashy - 1 month
|
|I assume this means if she was given the choice of a fine or prison
|time, she'd take prison
|u/jesus_does_crossfit - 1 month
|
|easy to say when it's not on the table
|u/Gary_BBGames - 1 month
|
|As has pretty much always been the case, it needs to fit in with
|existing laws. I can’t stand outside your house and shout that
|you’re a pedofile… well I can, but I would be open to you persuing
|legal action against me. You should look it up.
|u/adjavang - 1 month
|
|The other poster could probably peruse legal action whenever they
|want, pursuing it would be a different matter.
|u/Gary_BBGames - 1 month
|
|Sorry, missed that typo and fixed it :)
|u/Popular_Ad8269 - 1 month
|
|Not every country has the same absolutist free speech laws than the
|US. You can keep your opinions, but expressing it publicly might
|be against the law, often for good reason.
|u/koniboni - 1 month
|
|especially if it's targeted harassment of a single person whos
|appearence doesn't fit your worldview
|u/JesseAster - 1 month
|
|Probably not, but it's the fact that it's a possibility to begin with
|that tickles me. Fuck around and find out ig
|u/Plastic-Ad-5033 - 1 month
|
|Find out that billionaires are entirely above the law. I’m pretty
|sure that she could personally shoot Khelif on national television
|and then get her next AAA game deal and a private dinner with the
|PM.
|u/JesseAster - 1 month
|
|Yeah, I really am doubting she's gonna get much punishment out of
|this, if anything at all. I can hope though
|u/Nikulover - 1 month
|
|I wonder if she actually will find out lol
|u/BingpotStudio - 1 month
|
|We don’t know what she’s in to to be fair.
|u/MDF87 - 1 month
|
|She's so rich she could probably just buy the prison.
|u/darwin_4444 - 1 month
|
|The "fine" is 214k lmao
|u/Captain-Starshield - 1 month
|
|It’s been said before but it still needs to be said - fines are just
|how rich people pay to commit crimes
|u/VoxImperatoris - 1 month
|
|“If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists
|for the lower class.”
|u/Eoine - 1 month
|
|Entrance fee to actual absolute freedom
|u/Carbon__14 - 1 month
|
|Need the Finland policy where fines are means based, at least
|speeding tickets are anyways.
|u/Panda_hat - 1 month
|
|Make it a percentage of her wealth and make her feel it.
|u/Envy661 - 1 month
|
|Okay but can we talk about how the fine is MICROSCOPIC for these two
|individuals?
|u/SardonicSuperman - 1 month
|
|Imagine if Musk actually had to do five years in prison.
|u/Seenshadow01 - 1 month
|
|His mum said no... so unfortunately he wont be able to attend. /s
|(Joke referring to Musk vs Zuckerberg when they agreed on a fight in a
|ring but in the end Musk called it off because his mom said no.)
|u/SkitSkat-ScoodleDoot - 1 month
|
|And he comes out like a rock-hard badass. With a tear drop tattoo. And
|repents for his shitty capitalist ways and his conservative blowjobing
|and starts being some philanthropic powerhouse!? Yes, I can imagine,
|imagining is fun.
|u/totallytotodile0 - 1 month
|
|Cyber bullying feels entirely incorrect terminology here. Like can we
|agree on that? It goes so far beyond defamation, too. She won gold for
|her country, but if even one nut job back in Algeria believes the shit
|they said, Imane could be KILLED for something which isn't even true.
|Genuine damage has been done to this woman's image and her life has been
|placed in potential danger all because she wanted to follow a dream.
|It's sickening.
|u/ExtinctFauna - 1 month
|
|I think it's how it's defined in French law.
|u/NewFuturist - 1 month
|
|It's actually closer to ["acts of aggravated cyber
|harassment"](https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jk-rowling-elon-musk-
|imane-khelif-lawsuit-1236105185/)
|u/coincoinprout - 1 month
|
|No. It's harassment in French law, with the aggravating factor that
|it was done online. [Here is the law](https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr
|/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000049312743). > Harassing a person
|through repeated comments or behavior with the aim or effect of
|degrading their living conditions, resulting in an alteration in
|their physical or mental health, is punishable by one year's
|imprisonment and a €15,000 fine > > (...) > > The acts mentioned in
|the first to fourth paragraphs are punishable by two years'
|imprisonment and a €30,000 fine: > > (...) > > 4° When committed
|through the use of an online public communication service or through
|a digital or electronic medium
|u/olivebegonia - 1 month
|
|Yeah, the term cyber bullying definitely feels like an understatement.
|u/Muffin_Appropriate - 1 month
|
|Need to drop the cyber part. This isn’t 2002 anymore. The internet
|and the “real world” are not separate anymore and everyone is
|engaged with it It’s an outdated term in my opinion.
|u/Morella_xx - 1 month
|
|Yeah, it all just needs to be folded into the definition for
|harassment.
|u/catsdelicacy - 1 month
|
|My opinion as well, these are not separate spaces. Trump called
|on Twitter and there was a riot in Washington, and on that day the
|weak excuse that there was some separation between social media
|and the world was destroyed forever.
|u/coozehound3000 - 1 month
|
|ExCuSe mE. DoNt dEaDnAmE HiS cOmPaNy. iTs CaLLeD X nOw.
|u/catsdelicacy - 1 month
|
|😂
|u/DadJokeBadJoke - 1 month
|
|I don't get why people want to save him from his massive
|rebranding mistake.
|u/Stop_Sign - 1 month
|
|I haven't thought about it before but you're absolutely right
|u/Ouaouaron - 1 month
|
|I can somewhat understand the point, but the kind of bullying you're
|used to also sometimes results in death.
|u/mbelf - 1 month
|
|**Male locker rooms** Coach: Now let’s get out there and win!
|Dominate! **Female locker rooms** Coach: By all means, try to win.
|But just be aware that if you win by too much, you could open
|yourselves up to online idiots who might put your lives in danger and
|call that “feminism” without a hint of irony.
|u/mezobromelia1 - 1 month
|
|Agreed!!
|u/Panda_hat - 1 month
|
|Harassment and incitement to hatred and violence, to a scale that has
|probably never happened before (because of the internet and the
|fascistic Musk enabled Twitter.)
|u/Jugaimo - 1 month
|
|Slander is pretty apt. Spreading lies to damage someone’s reputation
|and push a narrative. Legally, it’s okay to be an asshole, but it
|turns into a crime when you direct that at a specific person.
|u/Luklear - 1 month
|
|The fact that someone would kill her for being trans is the bigger
|issue here, no?
|u/totallytotodile0 - 1 month
|
|That's what I'm saying. Algeria has strict anti-LGBT laws. It is not
|legal to be trans in her home country, and if people their believe
|what others say, it could genuinely end her life. Cyber bullying is
|far from the only charge which could apply here.
|u/Luklear - 1 month
|
|But what I’m saying is, shouldn’t we be addressing the fact that
|she could be killed for being trans, rather than the fact that
|someone falsely accused her of being trans, which shouldn’t even
|be an insult?
|u/PretzelLogick - 1 month
|
|What are we supposed to do to change the laws and ideology of
|everyone in Algeria bro? Obviously that's a problem but we can't
|ignore people like JK and Elon who are ignorant to the fact (or
|just straight up don't care) that this puts her in danger and
|continue to blast their BS online. Yes, being called trans
|shouldn't be an insult, but the reality is a lot more
|complicated.
|u/totallytotodile0 - 1 month
|
|Hey, if you're not trans and accused of being trans, that's an
|insult. Same way if you are trans and everyone insists you are
|not, that is also an insult. Respect people's genders. This is
|not the situation for that discussion.
|u/Nalivai - 1 month
|
|"Yeah, I pushed a person into upcoming traffic, and they died,
|but shouldn't we instead address an issue that we have such a
|dangerous road in the city that just being there is deadly.
|Let's focus on that, I will go put up a poster, you go call your
|representative, issue solved"
|u/Luklear - 1 month
|
|So you think the people misgendering her would be more
|responsible for her death than the people who killed her?
|That’s the only way your analogy works.
|u/work-school-account - 1 month
|
|Stochastic terrorism
|u/Paristocrat - 1 month
|
|Is that the lady who identified as a male author Robert Galbraith?
|u/Anon28301 - 1 month
|
|Yep, and when her fans told her that was the name of the man who
|invented gay conversion therapy she at first denied knowing that, then
|a week later went on a rant saying she “liked the name” and wasn’t
|going to change it to save people’s feelings. Looking at her hateful
|views I’m 90% sure she chose the name on purpose.
|u/i-is-scientistic - 1 month
|
|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Galbraith_Heath > The patient,
|who had been arrested for marijuana possession, was implanted with
|electrodes into the septal region (associated with feelings of
|pleasure), and many other parts of his brain. The septal electrodes
|were then stimulated while he was shown heterosexual pornographic
|material. The patient was later encouraged to have intercourse with
|a sex worker recruited for the study. As a result, Heath claimed the
|patient was successfully converted to heterosexuality. This research
|would be deemed unethical today for a variety of reasons. What the
|fuck.
|u/Honest_Relation4095 - 1 month
|
|"I have no idea who that Adolf Hitler guy even is."
|u/Dancecomander - 1 month
|
|Oh even better than that, she tried to say its a name she came up
|with completely out of her imagination YEARS ago. Like, come on.
|The name you pulled out of thin air just *happens* to be the name of
|the man who invented conversion therapy? Gtfo
|u/Anon28301 - 1 month
|
|Yeah I couldn’t remember exactly how she said it but I do remember
|she tried claiming she didn’t know who he was. Surely you’d lookup
|if there’s any associations with anyone before commiting to a
|name?
|u/Dancecomander - 1 month
|
|[https://i.imgur.com/lhOAPkd.png](https://i.imgur.com/lhOAPkd.pn
|g) Fuckin bananas explanation, and if anyone believes it i
|sincerely pity them lol
|u/Anon28301 - 1 month
|
|So she knows there’s an economist named JK Galbraith, showing
|that she most likely googled the name. I’m not believing she
|didn’t find a single thing about the real Robert Galbraith
|when checking out the name. The mental gymnastics she uses
|are honestly impressive.
|u/cynical_and_patient - 1 month
|
|Now there's a plan!!
|u/ItsCowboyHeyHey - 1 month
|
|We have an accord.
|u/MissAsshole - 1 month
|
|Her legacy will now be her hatred instead of Harry Potter. Imagine being
|so miserable that you make someone else’s lifestyle choices your entire
|personality.
|u/TomJaii - 1 month
|
|It's crazy that she wrote a book about overcoming bigotry with the
|power of love and friendship, and then became a hateful bigot. I
|don't even understand how the same person that wrote Harry Potter
|could become such a prolific bigot. Like it would be one thing if
|she slipped once and said something derogatory about trans people. My
|brain could connect that person to being the writer of Harry Potter.
|But she has made her entire life about hating a group of people. What
|happened?
|u/lowbrassdude - 1 month
|
|Not the first time this has happened. Ender's Game author Orson
|Scott Card wrote a series about how communicating will overcome
|bigotry and he is openly and proudly homophobic.
|u/expenseoutlandish - 1 month
|
|vase whole depend reply grab full smell terrific crowd kiss *This
|post was mass deleted and anonymized with
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|u/Glytch94 - 1 month
|
|Ok, but it's funny they view her as a liberal. She's anything but.
|u/expenseoutlandish - 1 month
|
|She appears to be a standard liberal to me. She's voting labour.
|u/ManufacturedOlympus - 1 month
|
|In the future people will be like “wait, that crazy twitter lady wrote
|Harry Potter?” 
|u/Smartalec821 - 1 month
|
|What did she say? I'm not being argumentative I'm truly curious. From
|reading how people now speak about JK it seems like she's out there
|hunting trans people or something with a blunderbus
|u/wannabe_pixie - 1 month
|
|She's just obsessed with demonizing trans people. This time her
|victim was a cisgender woman, assigned female at birth, lived her
|whole life as a woman, qualified to compete in the Olympics as a
|woman, and Joann insists that she's a man. Hence the lawsuit.
|u/sobrique - 1 month
|
|Also: Who lives in a country with quite strict LGBT laws, and thus
|puts her life and freedom at risk because of the allegation.
|u/Burrmanchu - 1 month
|
|I mean she may as fucking well be.. at this point it's what *didn't*
|she say. She's been constantly ranting dumbass, right wing
|conspiracy nonsense about transgender people for over a year now.
|u/GalaxyNina - 1 month
|
|more like 5 years
|u/ObsidianKing - 1 month
|
|But... what *did* she say? I'm not on Twitter.
|u/W0666007 - 1 month
|
|Google is a thing. If you actually gave a shit and weren’t
|“just asking questions” it would take you 30 seconds to figure
|it out.
|u/Burrmanchu - 1 month
|
|I mean come on man... it's like a constant stream everyday. Shit
|about how transgenders are terrible, transgenders aren't people,
|comparing transgenders to Nazis, misrepresenting facts and
|statistics about transgender people, completely denying science
|and logic, the whole 9 yards.
|u/Obvious-Spite-9929 - 1 month
|
|The boxer is not a man. She has a medical condition that makes her
|produce more testosterone and her features are more masculine than
|these people think they should be.
|u/RaspberryPiBen - 1 month
|
|Do you have evidence of her having more testosterone than average?
|The closest thing to that is the IBA performing an undisclosed
|test that they have stated is not about testosterone. For
|context, the IBA is heavily influenced by Russia (to the point
|that they have been banned by the Olympics), and they performed
|this test immediately after she beat a Russian champion.
|u/sala666 - 1 month
|
|Well, in a way she is doing just that. Not hunting in a literal
|sense of course but she donates big money to organisations that
|fight trans people rights.
|u/Plastic-Ad-5033 - 1 month
|
|I mean, her legacy will be anti-trans legislation and harassment
|across the UK for decades to come probably, leading to the death of
|possibly thousands of trans kids. So, she’s kinda getting her way. As
|billionaires tend to.
|u/Birdy_The_Mighty - 1 month
|
|Gentle point of fact, being trans isn’t a lifestyle choice anymore
|than being gay is. We are born this way. Our only “choice” is
|between living true to ourselves and doing what we can to treat our
|dysphoria, or staying miserable in order to avoid discrimination,
|rejection by our families, etc.
|u/MissAsshole - 1 month
|
|Thank you for bringing attention to that. I shouldn’t have said
|lifestyle choice as you’re absolutely right it’s just who you are.
|As somebody trying to be a better ally, what is a better way to put
|that sentence?
|u/Birdy_The_Mighty - 1 month
|
|Omg you’re too sweet. I’m sorry to be a bother. Honestly I’m not
|sure. “Existence” doesn’t cover the element of choice that IS
|there. Maybe just “Life Choices”? I can’t think of anything
|better. Honestly don’t worry about it. I’ve said the exact same
|thing before. I’ve been more dysphoric than normal recently and
|otherwise probably wouldn’t have said anything. Hope you have a
|good rest of your day!
|u/MinutePerspective106 - 1 month
|
|Exactly, and that makes me kinda sad. Not for her, but for dragging
|her own books through the mud. They have their flaws, but now people
|turn away from them for reasons having nothing to do with quality
|u/cheddy_b - 1 month
|
|More people know her for Harry Potter and that will never change lol
|u/archivefuck - 1 month
|
|honestly she still wouldn’t feel bad or learn to be better. she would
|just sit there in her righteous indignation thinking she’s suffering for
|a good cause.
|u/cactusboobs - 1 month
|
|If she does time, I’m perfectly fine with that outcome.
|u/jesus_does_crossfit - 1 month
|
|She's no skankhunt42, that's for sure
|![gif](giphy|yOvNKxsx6xfFu|downsized)
|u/mogsoggindog - 1 month
|
|I dont fucking get why she's doing this to herself. She could've just
|sat back and enjoyed her life of buying everything she could ever want,
|being loved by the public as a fiction goddess, and never working again.
|Why did she decide to devote her life to being the world's most
|notorious TERF?
|u/Silvawuff - 1 month
|
|People get really weird when they obtain ridiculous wealth and have
|outrageously large platforms to shout from. Musk and Joanne seem to
|have the similar issue of having a lot of money and time, and nowhere
|meaningful to spend it.
|u/Impossible_Tonight81 - 1 month
|
|You know how some people with a platform want to use it to do good?
|It's like that but she probably thinks this is good work fighting what
|she considers a terrifying pandemic but is really just some people
|trying to live their own lives. 
|u/capocycles - 1 month
|
|Perhaps because she actually believes what she says?
|u/GeorgieH26 - 1 month
|
|It’s such a shame because she could’ve used her giant platform and
|people’s admiration for SUCH good! She could be helping to change some
|really bigoted attitudes, could influence people to be better, to help
|causes and so much more.
|u/Panda_hat - 1 month
|
|It's mental illness, 100%. Transphobes get completely fixated and
|obsessed and they do not come back. Rowling needed therapy like 20+
|years ago.
|u/peter095837 - 1 month
|
|I have a feeling Musk and Rowling might end up getting away with it but
|honestly, both deserve to have their careers ruined. Both suck badly.
|u/Slamhamwich - 1 month
|
|214k is chump change to them. And they’ll get out of it without any
|prison time if almost guarantee it. This is a slap on the wrist for
|them.
|u/IndividualDevice9621 - 1 month
|
|They don't have careers. They have wealth.
|u/grrrimabear - 1 month
|
|You don't have to like her to acknowledge she's a writer. And a very
|successful one at that.
|u/redandwhitebear - 1 month
|
|LOL. Elon definitely has a career that is still going on right now.
|He has his faults, but SpaceX and Tesla are still doing great
|things, last I checked.
|u/MeggaMortY - 1 month
|
|Tesla is in the dumpster.
|u/DigitalGT - 1 month
|
|They are going to get away with it lmao. The law doesn’t touch rich
|rich people, look at trump
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|Oh, they're coming for him, too. It was a fellow Con that took the
|shot, remember.
|u/Beaglescout15 - 1 month
|
|Working is already doing a good job of ruining her own career. That
|said, I'm glad someone is finally calling out her bullying.
|u/OuiMerci - 1 month
|
|I suspect, with the wealth they possess; having a career is
|meaningless at this point.
|u/Consistent_Pitch782 - 1 month
|
|A much more fitting punishment, in my humble opinion, would be to have
|JK go 5 rounds in a boxing ring with Imane.
|u/CrispyPerogi - 1 month
|
|Straight to Azkaban. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 galleons.
|u/brighteye006 - 1 month
|
|Did she not publish books under a different name, and changed her gender
|to male ? *Checking online* Yes. Yes she did.
|https://uk.news.yahoo.com/why-jk-rowling-uses-robert-111004818.html.
|u/Drake_the_troll - 1 month
|
|Just don't look up who Robert galbraith was IRL....
|u/Panda_hat - 1 month
|
|People should so they understand exactly the kind of awful person
|Rowling truly is.
|u/MrWilsonWalluby - 1 month
|
|They told the entire world she was born a man, questioned her integrity
|as an athlete, and completely humiliated her on a world stage that
|should have been a shining moment for her career and her country.
|Instead she spent those moments defending against cyber-bigots using an
|innocent women as a pawn in their propaganda campaigns. I hope she
|wins.
|u/lordlordie1992 - 1 month
|
|![gif](giphy|FDJpdHgjRJWkU|downsized)
|u/JackStutters - 1 month
|
|This goes beyond “cyberbullying” tbh, they’ve essentially rallied half
|the planet against this athlete for something that isn’t even connected
|to her identity. I can’t imagine what kind of pain their bullshit has
|caused.
|u/Lordbogaaa - 1 month
|
|Could you imagine if this happened?
|u/RoaringPity - 1 month
|
|Lol as of 2020 her net worth was listed at 60M (going to assume USD).
|This fine in USD is roughly 275k. She doesn't care
|u/Zenai10 - 1 month
|
|Good. It was such a huge defamation case for someone that is a top
|athlete in the world in what should have been one of the best moments of
|her life
|u/oink888 - 1 month
|
|Oh boy, I hope the lady from Algeria sues the fuck out of these people
|calling her transgender or a man or whatever names they called her.
|u/Potential_Zucchini13 - 1 month
|
|this woman is filled with hate... she cannot even smile genuinely
|u/Plastic-Ad-5033 - 1 month
|
|I just hope Robert Galbraith won’t end up in a women’s prison.
|u/Imposter88 - 1 month
|
|Rich people don't go to jail
|u/jlbp337 - 1 month
|
|She’s a boxer, just beat em up Lol
|u/thebawheidedeejit - 1 month
|
|Although J K Rowling's face is indeed all messed up, I believe she is
|not a boxer, her face is just that wonky from chewing her own tongue
|in rabid rage and a series of unfortunate cosmetic procedures to alter
|her appearance to better reflect her internal self-identity,
|ironically.
|u/jlbp337 - 1 month
|
|I meant imane khaleif lmao
|u/rEmEmBeR-tHe-tReMoLo - 1 month
|
|I know she won't get a prison sentence, but I at least hope she's
|concerned that it *might* happen. A sleepless night or two while things
|play out in court, if nothing else.
|u/hughdint1 - 1 month
|
|I do not understand why she thinks she needs to chime in on every trans
|story that comes along.
|u/ElkIntelligent5474 - 1 month
|
|I wonder what trauma JK suffered to be such a complete absolute black
|hole of compassion regarding trans people.
|u/newsprintpoetry - 1 month
|
|I don't think she has cause it's not just trans people. She tokenized
|Lee, Seamus, and the Patil twins, added Dumbledore being gay as clout
|after the face, created a race that embodied antisemitism, and created
|a race of slaves so insistent on being slaves that they hated any
|attempt to free them. She's always been terrible, she just hid behind
|her message of "but I saved an orphan boy and don't want *all* the
|other races murdered!"
|u/realparkingbrake - 1 month
|
|> what trauma JK suffered She became the world's first billionaire
|writer, and then donated so much money to various charities that she
|was no longer a billionaire. I can't imagine what happened since then
|to make her so bitter and malevolent, because she didn't use to be
|like this. But now, yikes, she's really gone off the deep end. Damn
|shame.
|u/Megbarlis - 1 month
|
|Prison has less mould, so its just a win for jk trolling
|u/torero15 - 1 month
|
|I don’t like the ideal of jailing people for this. But awarding a large
|financial judgement and giving Khelif that money? Sounds right to me.
|You wanna keep saying defamatory shit fine, but keep giving them that
|cash then. And it should be an exponential thing. I guarantee they’d
|shut up if they risked losing their fortune.
|u/Substantial_Ad_7027 - 1 month
|
|Imagine being so fucked in the head that you’d say you would happily go
|to prison over that. I’m glad I have never so much as read a page of a
|Harry Potter book.
|u/FrostyD7 - 1 month
|
|When you literally can't stop doubling down.
|u/pornaddiction247 - 1 month
|
|Wait, JK is the creator of Harry Potter? How tf did she get so
|controversial?
|u/ProMedicineProAbort - 1 month
|
|She opened her mouth and a slew of hate and bullshit came out.
|Then she doubled down on it.
|u/Niwde101 - 1 month
|
|That's the spirit. Double down!
|u/pornaddiction247 - 1 month
|
|Yea, well being a celebrity sucks enough, but being a
|controversial one is worse
|u/Anon28301 - 1 month
|
|If only it was just transphobia. She’s defended Marilyn Manson
|when he got accused multiple times of sexual abuse yet she’s never
|met the guy (but did send him flowers). She is actively friends
|with Matt Walsh, a man who said on tv that women should be legal
|to marry and impregnate as soon as they get their periods. She
|claims to be a feminist but she defends so many people that don’t
|see women as human. She only wants to save women from trans
|people, if an abuser is cis, she doesn’t want to mention it.
|u/ProfessionSanity - 1 month
|
|And supposedly she's now a "Christian". No greater hate than so-
|called " Christian Love ".
|u/ICarMaI - 1 month
|
|All the christians around me growing up told me Harry Potter was
|satanic
|u/ProfessionSanity - 1 month
|
|Well they do have a problem telling the difference between
|fantasy and reality.
|u/ICarMaI - 1 month
|
|The bible really has the worst fandom
|u/Drake_the_troll - 1 month
|
|Really brings the term "culture war" into perspective
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|LOL...really?? Remember how they burned her witchcraft books?
|u/ProfessionSanity - 1 month
|
|Maybe she'll start burning her own books.🤷
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|I know it's not likely to happen, but I like the vision of
|her living under a bridge with nothing but a burning oil
|drum full of her books for warmth.
|u/ProfessionSanity - 1 month
|
|😂😂😂
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|She made a snide comment saying that only "real women" menstruate.
|Kinda similar to our buddy JD Vance and his "childless cat ladies"
|crap. She got the blowback she deserved, IMO.
|u/a-ohhh - 1 month
|
|I thought it was a response to an article that used the term
|“people who menstruate” and she replied saying something like
|“there’s a word for them, they’re called women” and it went
|downhill from there.
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|Yup. Which means that only "real" women menstruate and anyone
|who doesn't isn't a "real" woman. Hear that echo in what she
|said about Imane? Transphobes also have a weird obsession
|with breeding and bloodlines, which was part of my argument.
|That's also why it's so virulent in the UK, IMO, that kind of
|class warfare seems to be in the culture.
|u/-laughingfox - 1 month
|
|Oh wow. So I'm not a woman anymore? My husband's not going to
|be thrilled.
|u/MinutePerspective106 - 1 month
|
|Imagine calling your husband and casually saying "guess what,
|you're gay now"
|u/-laughingfox - 1 month
|
|I'm so doing this.
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|Yup, you can see exactly where this went.
|u/Madrugada2010 - 1 month
|
|Scratch the surface of those books and you can see she was always
|trash.
|u/EmperorGrinnar - 1 month
|
|🍻
|u/Panda_hat - 1 month
|
|She's desperate to be a victim because she's been utterly isolated
|from consequences by her wealth for the last 20+ years, and couldn't
|handle being lightly mocked for living in a literal high castle.
|u/eurekadabra - 1 month
|
|Yes. Imagine wanting to go to jail, happily, to assert that you
|somehow have a right to tell people what they should do with their
|bodies
|u/kishkash51 - 1 month
|
|Her twitter has surprisingly been quiet since this was announced.
|u/UlteriorKnowsIt - 1 month
|
|She claims to defend the rights of biological women, only to call a
|biological woman a man while outright being against biological women
|boxing each other. How ironic.
|u/GeorgieH26 - 1 month
|
|And not commenting at all on a convicted rapist (Dutch volleyball
|player) being allowed to compete in the Olympics.
|u/ToeKnail - 1 month
|
|![gif](giphy|we6jAl9vmbDa0ybaRn|downsized) Lock the sow up!
|u/GeorgieH26 - 1 month
|
|The sow 😂😂😂😂
|u/FaceTimePolice - 1 month
|
|Womp womp. Reap what you sow.
|u/Late-Ad155 - 1 month
|
|Please for the love of God let Khelif win this case. I'm not asking for
|much lord.
|u/ConcentrateDull9695 - 1 month
|
|She should be happy. Now's her time to put her money where her mouth is.
|u/konsada24 - 1 month
|
|That can be arraigned...
|u/taylorpilot - 1 month
|
|There’s no way she’s doing any time for that.
|u/Vitalabyss1 - 1 month
|
|"If"... I feel like it's pretty definitive. They targeted her over any
|and ever other Olympian, quite specifically. Their comments were
|publicly made on a public forum. And, Elon at least, encouraged others
|who picked up that narrative to continue spreading it.
|u/FarmerExternal - 1 month
|
|And, just to confirm, we’re generally supposed to be ok with this?
|u/Karegian - 1 month
|
|Give her what she wants then...seems only right.
|u/unknownpothead1992 - 1 month
|
|Either watch her go broke
|u/DeadBoyJ69 - 1 month
|
|It's like poetry...
|u/InfusionRN - 1 month
|
|I truly loathe this sub human.
|u/The_Powers - 1 month
|
|Christians and martyr complexes, name a more tiresome duo.
|u/jking94577 - 1 month
|
|We live in a world where even convicted felons like trump have not even
|served any prison time. Do you seriously think JK and Musk would serve
|any? If you still think so, i might have a bridge to sell you...
|u/doggiehouse - 1 month
|
|I have some ice mix and headlight fluid, essentials everyone needs!
|hmu
|u/X-tian-9101 - 1 month
|
|Sadly, we know that won't happen because she and Elon are rich. Instead,
|what will happen is that they will get a stern talking to, and then they
|will go on a media tour crying about how they were being silenced and
|repressed.
|u/EtsuRah - 1 month
|
|Even if there weren't rich and had power... Would anyone see prison
|time for slander? Lmao.
|u/NMDA01 - 1 month
|
|Won't happen, but hope it's more than 200k
|u/Drawtaru - 1 month
|
|oh no 214,000 pounds how will they ever afford their rent
|u/moleassasin - 1 month
|
|Almost nobody "happily" serves prison time. J.K. is rich, so she will
|never be in prison anyway.
|u/UsedScale2278 - 1 month
|
|She’s a hero!
|u/electricalphil - 1 month
|
|She's not going to prison. Give me a break.
|u/natehellsing - 1 month
|
|Clearly free speech is only for when people like what you’re saying.
|u/itsnevergoodenough00 - 1 month
|
|Aren't they going off of information released by a boxing federation?
|Start the law suits there - the ones who originally caused the issue.
|u/4thaccountin5years - 1 month
|
|Hey look a wise comment not looking for a witch hunt.
|u/Impossible__Joke - 1 month
|
|This is not ok though. Fuck both of them, but fines and prison
|sentences.... do you all not see how fucking bad of a precedent this
|is??
|u/Cryptic_254 - 1 month
|
|She’s been receiving death threats partially because of their posts,
|inciting hate towards her. Libel and defamation aren’t taken lightly
|in some courts. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from
|consequences.
|u/NoHoHan - 1 month
|
|Whoever made the death threats should be punished, then.
|u/Krissam - 1 month
|
|So, just to be clear, since Rowling has recieved death threats,
|eveyone in this thread calling her an asshole should be fined and go
|to prison?
|u/Impossible__Joke - 1 month
|
|It does mean freedom from fines and freedom from imprisonment. She
|is a dickhead and most people don't like her, that is the
|consequences. For the government to arrest her for opinions and
|words is fucking ludicrous
|u/Old_Baldi_Locks - 1 month
|
|"It does mean freedom from fines and freedom from imprisonment. "
|No, it exclusively means the government doesn't have a right to
|have an issue with your speech. That does NOT mean you can do
|whatever you want to fellow citizens without repercussions.
|u/NoHoHan - 1 month
|
|Do you…. Do you not know that it’s the government who imprisons
|and fines people??
|u/SomwatArchitect - 1 month
|
|Hi, you're wrong on all fronts. I'm assuming you are assuming the
|suit is happening in the US (which it isn't), but even in the US
|there are phrases that can get you thrown in prison. For example,
|stating that you are going to increase the amount of assassinated
|presidents is technically fine, but stating "I am going to
|kill..." is not. Not only that, but there are rulings that
|fighting words are not protected by law or by the Constitution and
|its amendments. If I remember correctly this now extends to hate
|speech.
|u/heartattk1 - 1 month
|
|You’re incorrect
|u/The_Briefcase_Wanker - 1 month
|
|You remember incorrectly. The U.S. has no hate speech laws.
|u/Impossible__Joke - 1 month
|
|Inciting violence or a call to action is not the same thing. Did
|they say they were going to kill, or want people to kill the
|athlete? I doubt it...
|u/4thaccountin5years - 1 month
|
|It is so crazy to me to see how easily people are willing to
|give up their rights and not give a second thought to the
|consequences. They formed an opinion based on possibly wrong
|information. That’s not jail worthy. There was no call for
|violence. Reddit is insane and it’s getting crazier by the
|day.
|u/Impossible__Joke - 1 month
|
|It really blows my mind. I don't like her views, but defeat
|her with evidence and superior logic to the argument.
|Silencing those who you disagree with is absolutely insane.
|History has a very clear track record of how that pans
|out... yet people on here cheer for it because they agree
|with who is getting punished, until it is them, and it's to
|fucking late.
|u/4thaccountin5years - 1 month
|
|Exactly. Doomed to repeat history…and we will get
|downvoted for pointing it out. It’s such a dangerous
|precedent.
|u/gimpwiz - 1 month
|
|Hate speech can be used as evidence in proving a hate crime, ie,
|assaulting someone while yelling how you hate their race. By
|itself it is generally protected speech. You may be cited for
|obscenity if you go do it at a playground, you aren't gonna
|enjoy the consequences of doing it in the middle of court, but
|the speech alone is protected. Incitement in US law, as far as
|I am aware, must be both specific and immediate. The only reason
|threats against certain office holders get any attention is
|because a bloated secret service wants to scare people away from
|saying a very narrow slice of dumb shit, but even then, the
|punishment is often the ride rather than the rap.
|u/t3eee - 1 month
|
|This isn't the precedent. The precedents BEEN set.
|u/smelly_farts_loading - 1 month
|
|Anyone who is happy for this is disturbed and can’t see the future
|consequences.
|u/the_orange_alligator - 1 month
|
|Like what? They got in trouble for sending a hate brigade after
|someone. They could’ve just been nice people and nothing would’ve
|happened
|u/smelly_farts_loading - 1 month
|
|That logic is sound but if laws start banning speech it works good
|when it’s the speech you want banned but when it gets into peoples
|hands who don’t share your values it can get bad. I’m all for
|treating people right so I agree with you I just don’t want to use
|the law to punish people I’d rather have them be socially punished
|by them losing support.
|u/Zoe-Schmoey - 1 month
|
|Five years for misgendering someone?! The memes from a few years ago
|have actually come true. 🤡🌎
|u/Ceedeesgreatesthits - 1 month
|
|Don’t worry. It’ll only get worse
|u/ApexMM - 1 month
|
|This should be considered a defamation case. They're spreading lies
|about how she's a man, and it could totally damage her livelihood. 
|u/newaccount - 1 month
|
|She is banned from competing as female due to having XY chromosomes
|in the IBA. To the vast majority of people XY chromosomes indicate
|you are genetically male. I don’t know French defamation laws and
|what was said on twitter beyond ‘she’s a man’ but I have a hard time
|believing this case has any merit based on the facts that we know 
|u/MinutePerspective106 - 1 month
|
|It went quite a bit further than misgendering. It was a massive online
|campaign for defamation of a person, which could (and still can)
|impact her career and possibly safety. Not simply "lol trans"
|u/newaccount - 1 month
|
|Imane has been banned for competing as female by one sporting body
|due to having XY chromosomes.  I’m not sure ‘misgendering’ is in
|play here
|u/Last-Percentage5062 - 1 month
|
|It was a targeted harassment campaign spreading incorrect information
|that, since Imane is Algerian, could have gotten her *killed*. It’s
|not just misgendering somebody.
|u/Mr_Dr_Prof_Derp - 1 month
|
|Presuming it was misinformation. Discovery should be fun.
|u/Last-Percentage5062 - 1 month
|
|Imane is cisgender. That isn’t really up for debate.
|u/xXBlaze52 - 1 month
|
|Then why did she fail two sex tests that showed XY chromosomes,
|and that she has elevated, male levels of testosterone? Why did
|her own coach admit she had 'chromosome issues'? Why, if this is
|false, did she not appeal the ban by the IBA or have the IOC run
|another test to prove she's female? Sounds like a lot of
|evidence to suggest she's male, or at the very least should have
|been tested before competing.
|u/Orcaon - 1 month
|
|No evidence of those tests being done has actually been made
|public. A lot of people are saying this has happened but no
|actual evidence. Just a lot of people who think repeating
|something makes it proven.
|u/xXBlaze52 - 1 month
|
|[Alan Abrahamson](https://www.3wiresports.com/articles/2024/
|8/5/fa9lt6ypbwx5su3z20xxnfzgtao0gy) has been an olympic
|reporter for 17 years with the LA times and NBC. He's
|confirmed the test exists and shows XY chromosomes. Dr
|Ioannis Filippatos, an obstetrician and gynaecologist of 30
|years who also serves as the president of the European
|Boxing Confederation has also confirmed the tests, as
|reported by the (Sydney Morning
|Herald)[https://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/women-s-
|category-must-be-only-women-doctor-defends-iba-bans-at-
|farcical-press-conference-20240806-p5jzsv.html] If Imane
|disputes this, she could have appealed the IBA ban with the
|CAS, or taken another test before the olympics. She has done
|niether.
|u/newaccount - 1 month
|
|Imane has XY chromosomes, and is banned from competing as a
|female by a sporting body, that also isn’t up for debate.
|u/Last-Percentage5062 - 1 month
|
|The only ones I can find claiming she has XY chromosomes are
|the IBA, a defunct boxing organization with ties to Russia,
|that only did so coincidentally after she ruined a star
|Russian boxers perfect record. Coincidentally, they also said
|the other woman that beat said athlete also failed the “gender
|test”
|u/newaccount - 1 month
|
|There’s a lot of misinformation in your comment.  >  IBA, a
|defunct boxing organization    The IBA isn’t defunct lol.
|They run amateur and professional boxing world wide. They
|run the World Championships. They are like FIFA.    > after
|she ruined a star Russian boxers perfect record   Two
|boxers were banned. Both gave blood and failed chromosomes
|in 2022. At the next tournament nearly a year later they
|both were required to give blood **before** the start of the
|tournament which they did.  It took 6 days for the results
|to come back, Imame fought the Russian 4 days after she gave
|blood.   She failed the test, her second failure, and was
|banned.   > Coincidentally, they also said the other woman
|that beat said athlete also failed the “gender test”   The
|other woman didn’t fight any Russian, let alone the same
|one 
|u/smelly_farts_loading - 1 month
|
|It was 100% just misgendering someone. People always wonder what
|lead to Trump being elected and it’s definitely this kinda of
|thought.
|u/carpe_simian - 1 month
|
|Kinda safe to say it’s unlikely Trump will be elected as king of
|the EU. Which is the jurisdiction in question here. Not everything
|is Murica.
|u/fbeemcee - 1 month
|
|I love this for her. 😈
|u/PupEDog - 1 month
|
|Settlement out of court, then back to the hate. That's how it'll go.
|u/Fig1025 - 1 month
|
|Where does this kind of hate come from? she knows her accusations are
|false, this is the wrong hill to die on. Any sane person would just try
|to apologize and move on, but she wants to double down. I noticed all
|the worst people in the world always double down on anything they say,
|never learn from their mistakes
|u/formerNPC - 1 month
|
|She goes after a marginalized group of people who have in no way caused
|her any harm. She’s a damn billionaire who could use her money and fame
|to do something productive for society but instead she doubles down on
|her hate filled rhetoric and all for nothing. She’s a complete waste of
|a human being who could have been a positive force instead of an
|ignorant, intolerant bitch.
|u/ShortBusBully - 1 month
|
|I'm sorry to let you in on this little secret, but rich people do not go
|to prison.
|u/Smartalec821 - 1 month
|
|Woah. Did she attack iman or does anyone know what she said about her
|that could constitute legal repercussions?
|u/PixelatedDie - 1 month
|
|NARRATOR: *No, she totally would not*
|![gif](giphy|I5TF0P9E9bmI8|downsized)
|u/Sexagenerian - 1 month
|
|Sure she would. Easy to say when there’s no real prospect of it
|happening. 🤔
|u/BayouBoyMike - 1 month
|
|Yeah whatever.
|u/IsThisThingOn69lol - 1 month
|
|Guys stop assuming people with money face punishments. The most we'll
|get out of this is having the ability to say "hey you were named in a
|cyberbullying suit because you're a bigot." and they'll probably just
|ignore that and carry on.
|u/EvilSporkOfDeath - 1 month
|
|Lawsuits mean nothing. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Yall spamming
|this like it means something, but it doesn't.
|u/MechAegis - 1 month
|
|Man all she had to do was chill and nothing else.
|u/burtgummer45 - 1 month
|
|That boxer does not identify as trans, what is everybody talking about,
|lol
|u/DaakLingDuck - 1 month
|
|Nice warm prison cell away from the mold might actually do her good.
|u/No_Caramel_1782 - 1 month
|
|Madness. What if she just chilled out instead?
|u/Pickled_Kagura - 1 month
|
|sending people to jail for mean comments is fucking stupid
|u/Ok-Equivalent8260 - 1 month
|
|So do it.
|u/BoopsTheSnoot_ - 1 month
|
|Nah, rich don't go to prison, we all know that.
|u/equality-_-7-2521 - 1 month
|
|Well it wouldn't be going to prison over your views, Joanne. It would be
|going to prison for your actions...because you broke the law.
|u/ILoveRegenHealth - 1 month
|
|There's many notable Right Wing sludge names that Imane's lawyers should
|add to the list.
|u/therealbonzai - 1 month
|
|Please take Rowling’s prison time and add it to Musk‘s!
|u/Prodigyxdelta3 - 1 month
|
|I doubt anyone is going to be internationally extradited for
|cyberbullying, much less a millionaire and billionaire
|u/sprazcrumbler - 1 month
|
|She's not going to prison for this and we should be facepalming at you
|for reading a daily mail headline and taking it seriously.
|u/caramel-syrup - 1 month
|
|it still baffles me on why JK rowling didnt just write her books, get
|her bag, and shut tf up
|u/Exact_Document_1146 - 1 month
|
|Big group of mindless drones
|u/MikaelAdolfsson - 1 month
|
|If this is what it takes for her to shut the hell up, then I take it no
|matter if it succeeds or not.
|u/Apollo_Dragon777 - 1 month
|
|Hope she likes that lawsuit she has been handed and she may get that
|prison sentence after all.
|u/nonconformee - 1 month
|
|I actually don't care in which prison she rots. But it's never going to
|happen anyway. There will be no punishment.
|u/Zkimaiz - 1 month
|
|If if if... We should start putting these people straight to jail, fines
|don't hurt them, and they prove and publicly say that they won't take
|part in a modern society. These people are just full of hate, and
|society would be in a much better position without those toxic people.
|u/57evil - 1 month
|
|I bet shes going to write "Mein Magic Kampf" on jail
|u/DeltaOfficialYT - 1 month
|
|Who knew that the potential saviour of trans people could be a cis
|woman?
|u/ScyllaOfTheDepths - 1 month
|
|What gets me is that she never apologizes despite constantly forcing
|others to apologize to her under the weight of legal threats. I think
|the real harsh punishment here for her would be just having to actually
|fucking apologize for something and admit that she is not always the
|victim in every situation.
|u/Novae224 - 1 month
|
|Alright… so lock her up… what are we waiting for? Would love Elon Musk
|behind bars… but he’s on the inside of rich American club… just like
|trump, laws don’t apply to him… he isn’t gonna go to jail… it’s all a
|cult
|u/CharlotteChaos - 1 month
|
|Look at it this way, she'll have plenty of time to write another book.
|Maybe she'll try to save alittle face by making Dobbie gay this time.
|u/Gold_Stranger7098 - 1 month
|
|Maybe she will.
|u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 - 1 month
|
|![gif](giphy|CVBmMpvaLxePZrfVY3|downsized) Me: minding my own business
|the best I can.... buuuuuuut
|u/cricketeer767 - 1 month
|
|Shes just gonna lose her precious money.
|u/songbird1681 - 1 month
|
|A’ight, bet.
|u/Itachifan33 - 1 month
|
|As they should. She should also go after any other top celebrity that
|also made defamatory statements about her. In her country it's illegal
|to be trans so claiming that could get her in trouble with the law. Plus
|none of what they said was true.
|u/Norsedragoon - 1 month
|
|Well she is a UK citizen so she doesn't have any actual rights in the
|first place. Only permissions, and the UK is busy revoking those
|permissions.
|u/not_likely_today - 1 month
|
|People are going see more old school radical feminists speaking out
|about the trans community. A lot of them at least the ones I know are
|not happy but not vocal about it yet. They see it as an invasion to
|everything they fought for during the 70s to present. I may no agree
|with their perspective but I can see where they are coming from when it
|comes to competitive sports and prisons.
|u/EffectivelyHidden - 1 month
|
|If they keep aligning themselves with the Matt Walshs, Posie Parkers,
|Magdalen Berns, Helen Joyces, and JK Rawlings of the world? They've
|betrayed everything they fought for in the 70s, and they can go fuck
|themselves.
|u/Select-Team-6863 - 1 month
|
|One day you're a TERF feminist, the next you're defending patriarchical
|standards of what a woman should look like. One day you're shaming
|commoners for not taking in refugees while refusing to house them
|yourself... & we'll see if she devolves into a racist.
|u/imonlyhumanafteral1 - 1 month
|
|Please let her actually go to prison
|u/farmboy1958 - 1 month
|
|[ Removed by Reddit ]
|u/scdlstonerfuck - 1 month
|
|No she’s definitely transphobic. Denying trans people is denying
|reality
|u/GuineaGirl2000596 - 1 month
|
|Pretty sure this person is calling trans people fictional
|u/SulkingSally68 - 1 month
|
|Wow reddit is full of mindless bots.
|u/poxtart - 1 month
|
|Yeah unfortunately transphobes and other assorted dirtbags rely upon
|bots to swarm people. It's unfortunate, and you can see it happening
|in real time with this post.
|u/Snapdragon_4U - 1 month
|
|What happened to this woman to make her so truly vile and continually
|double and triple down on her hateful rhetoric. Like, why? What can
|anyone possibly gain but being this awful? Does it make her feel better
|somehow? Knowing she’s not just hurting a whole subset of the population
|but the people who connected with her books. What a disappointment she
|is. Two of the wealthiest people in the world have NOTHING better to do
|than spread hate on Twitter. That’s… something.
|u/freedomforsale - 1 month
|
|Imagine the party of "progressives" and "inclusion" wanting someone
|jailed for not agreeing with your opinion. we're inclusive! As along as
|you agree with all our beliefs..
|u/giraffarigboo - 1 month
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|What a weird hill to die on
|u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 - 1 month
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|Wait people are going to prison and being fined now for having a
|dissenting opinion?
|u/Reaper1510 - 1 month
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|Its defamation, not an opinion
|u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 - 1 month
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|That means they have to have said something patently, objectively
|false.
|u/Old_Baldi_Locks - 1 month
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|Yeah. The patently, objectively false bullshit she spouted was
|that someone was a man just because they weren't pretty.
|u/Reaper1510 - 1 month
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|Shes a woman, so is patently false
|u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 - 1 month
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|That would mean she has XX chromosomes, biologically, so… that’s
|where you may have a different opinion, but a scientific reality
|can’t really be disputed.
|u/Old_Baldi_Locks - 1 month
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|Here in the healthcare industry there are multiple ways to
|have an XY that still leave you biologically a woman. So you
|can stop pretending you understand science.
|u/Reaper1510 - 1 month
|
|But then again like you most likely missed is that its just
|hearsay that she has xy chromosomes , thats the entire damn
|point, the claim is made by the iba who tested it, but a claim
|is no fact , and the iba is a banned and disgraced
|organisation …..
|u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 - 1 month
|
|Ok gotcha. So that still has yet to actually be proven. I
|was under the impression that she had been fully and
|properly tested. Happy to respect the pronouns, but also
|in favor of having people properly tested and qualify for
|competitions of strength/athleticism. XY shouldn’t compete
|an XX and it be considered fair.
|u/Reaper1510 - 1 month
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|I agree with you on that , but in this case its just
|hearsay from a banned and disgraced organisation
|u/Reaper1510 - 1 month
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|Happy to talk to someone reasonable :)
|u/Unlucky_Nobody_4984 - 1 month
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|Most of the time haha. Thanks, and likewise.
|u/Reaper1510 - 1 month
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|Nvm i take my words back, i might be wrong about her
|chromosomes seeing the new of last 2 days
|u/towerfella - 1 month
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|If they get “locked up”, it will be a sad day for free speech.
|u/Benromaniac - 1 month
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|What a self righteous and deluded asshole.
|u/4thaccountin5years - 1 month
|
|This is an interesting thread about the issue. It’s more nuanced than
|people think. https://www.reddit.com/r/fourthwavewomen/s/XrS1wSuYui
|u/zinneavicious - 1 month
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|Let’s make her happy then.
|u/penguinbbb - 1 month
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|If this is about the Algerian boxer, I’m pretty sure a lawsuit will
|necessarily mean that the boxer undergoes DNA testing. This will likely
|end the matter, one way or the other, forever. And the Internet will
|move on. It’s a good thing.
|u/PostReplyKarmaRepeat - 1 month
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|The spreading of misinformation which led to more hateful harassment.
|Like Alex Jones. Idk. I salute her for suing. They ruined her
|Olympic experience. Fuck them
|u/iiMADness - 1 month
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|It's even hard to prove in court real cases of defamation.. Her
|tweet didn't say anything explicitely and I dont think the law can
|work with "she intended to say this" Unless there are tweets i did
|not see I don't agree with people making rage bait tweets on
|sensitive topics, there are more classy ways to discuss stuff But
|we can't lock people up because they are insufferable..people should
|not be afraid to speak their mind. Unless there is real danger
|involved like death threats. Ps. Imagine Trump suing into silence
|everyone that called him a pedo for cyberbulling
|u/Ellielands - 1 month
|
|Has she been silent for like 7 days now? Who knew she could shut up? I
|love this for her though.
|u/Bishop_Malcolm08 - 1 month
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|Expecto Incarcerium
|u/switchflip333 - 1 month
|
|freedom of speech. deal with it.
|u/DungeonsAndDoofus - 1 month
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|Dude, Imane is from Algeria, where being trans is illegal. If they
|actually believe all this bullshittery, then Imane is gonna get
|severely punished for something that isn't even true.
|u/quantifical - 1 month
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|This is valid for Elon living in the land of the free but not for
|Rowling living in the shitstain UK.
|u/JackieTree89 - 1 month
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|Would happily serve prison time instead of admitting you're just wrong
|and hateful
|u/blaze_mcblazy - 1 month
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|How is she such a piece of shit human?
|u/BillChristbaws - 1 month
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|These people aren’t even gonna come close to getting arrested you
|morons.
|u/Biggus-Duckus - 1 month
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|Everyone knows that, smart guy.
|u/4thaccountin5years - 1 month
|
|No they don’t. Thousands of people on Reddit literally want them to
|be locked up for having an opinion. Regardless of what you think of
|them, it’s insane to lock someone up for an opinion. There was no
|direct threat for violence.
|u/Biggus-Duckus - 1 month
|
|Want and think are two entirely different things. Nobody thinks
|they're getting locked up. Lots of people would like it if they
|were, but nobody is naive enough to think that they will.
|u/smeggysoup84 - 1 month
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|Does this case actually have legs?
|u/Clerkdidnothingwrong - 1 month
|
|There’s a hell of a lot more defendants if Imane Khelif is suing the
|cyberbullies. The amount of crap posted during the Olympics seriously
|made it seem like nothing else happened at the Olympics.
|u/Tesser_Wolf - 1 month
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|This goes beyond cyber bullying, they are encouraging hate and violence.
|u/Omeirawana - 1 month
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|Please let Khelif win! Please!
|u/Sweet-Message1153 - 1 month
|
|Imane should end up as a billionaire taking the rightful amount from
|those mad people in an influential & powerful positions.... Their
|propaganda could've gotten her killed & the threat is not over yet
|u/SnooFoxes6169 - 1 month
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|if only she would keep her ideology out of her platform and just post
|about her magnum opus… so disappointed about her.
|u/Tamotefu - 1 month
|
|Probably not gonna happen. But on the off chance it does: Good riddance
|to bad rubbish.
|u/Merickwise - 1 month
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|Not for her transphobic views, but for her transphobic ACTIONS!!!
|u/MyGodItsFullofScars - 1 month
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|So saddened this icon of classic literature that will be enjoyed for
|hundreds of years turned out to be such a horrible human being. Talk
|about destroying your legacy....smh
|u/3OAM - 1 month
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|When rich people see comparatively poor people having fun, their money
|behooves them to come down and put a stop to that.
|u/SolveSomeTrouble - 1 month
|
|I see she's now in the "finding out" portion after fucking around for so
|long...
|u/23Amuro - 1 month
|
|Fines are only punishments for the poor. They should be scaled with the
|net worth of the individual.
|u/itsyaboisknnypen1s - 1 month
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|Can’t see it ever happening but boy, I would throw a party. Would love
|to see her nightmare, transphobic ass behind bars. 
|u/nm_already_taken - 1 month
|
|As if they're gonna get locked up ffs. By who, is the French government
|allowed to extradite citizens of foreign countries and imprison them
|because they don't like what they say whilst they're not even in France?
|u/Almacca - 1 month
|
|What the heck, make it ten years!
|u/catsdelicacy - 1 month
|
|Of all the shitty things this woman has done, her behavior with regards
|to this athlete has been the worst. She has recklessly endangered the
|life of a human being based on a lie. She should be ashamed of
|herself. I hope she has enough self-respect left in that twisted heart
|of hers to actually have taken a moment and realize that she has crossed
|the line. I doubt it, though. These billionaires have radicalized
|themselves on X. The only reason she's stopped is her lawyers told her
|she was going to lose some of her money. That's the only thing that
|matters more to her than being a hateful bigot on social media. I was
|able to separate the art and the creator before this, but I think that's
|over now. Goodbye, Harry, we had a good run.
|u/FlakyOffice - 1 month
|
|I’m not transphobic, but I don’t like when men who identify as women
|play sports with women. It’s not right or fair. Period!
|u/beefcake989 - 1 month
|
|Reddit has become to woke for me
|u/4thaccountin5years - 1 month
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|I actually think they might be bots. Seriously.
|u/GamerMom5 - 1 month
|
|I still don’t understand why she’s not entitled to her own opinion.
|Maybe my head is in the sand and I missed something big.
|u/MxKittyFantastico - 1 month
|
|So you think people are entitled to their own opinion to the point
|where they can cyberbully others? It seems like a pretty bad take to
|me....
|u/DrMokhtar - 1 month
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|They are not going to spend any prison time at all
|u/Silver-Year5607 - 1 month
|
|5 years? For mean tweets? What is this bullshit?
|u/AckshullyNo - 1 month
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|We're all rootin' for ya darlin'.
|u/NachosforDachos - 1 month
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|Like that will ever happen
|u/chevchelo - 1 month
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|Sadly too much money between those two idiots for any jail time.
|u/Jeoshua - 1 month
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|Can this be made admissible in UK Court? Please?
|u/Maester_Maetthieux - 1 month
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|Iconic
|u/aeolus811tw - 1 month
|
|it would be nice if she get giant fine akin to fox news dominion
|lawsuit. these people would only learn to respect other if they aren't
|drowning in cash.
|u/Masta0nion - 1 month
|
|Something tells me they’ll end up paying the fine
|u/orangecloud_0 - 1 month
|
|My friend said " what if she is a man tho" obv not reading the news. I
|pointed out that he thinks Sarah Jessica Parker looks like a man as well
|to him (no hate to her) but doesn't mean she's a man. There's tomboys
|u/leagueofcipher - 1 month
|
|It would be good for her to be honest, detox from that black mold
|u/WhySoSara - 1 month
|
|People actually think the demand will proceed? looooool
|u/Bawlmerian21228 - 1 month
|
|That makes at least two of us!
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