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TIL that on the day he was assassinated at least nine of Kennedy’s
Secret Service agents were recovering from an all night bender that
ended at 5:00 AM
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|u/looktowindward - 1 month
|
|It wouldn't have made a difference but the USSS is legendary for agents
|abusing alcohol.
|u/Educational-Owl-7740 - 1 month
|
|Yeah the job fucking sucks. You get to spend lots of time away from
|home standing around waiting for something to happen.
|u/_JustAnna_1992 - 1 month
|
|And something only happens once every 20-40 years.
|u/Educational-Owl-7740 - 1 month
|
|And if it does you’re probably getting fired
|u/RealisticlyNecessary - 1 month
|
|And if it does, you probably couldn't have prevented it (current
|situations not withstanding!!!) Like, the fuck were they gonna
|do to prevent JFKs assassination? Have people in literally every
|window?
|u/Educational-Owl-7740 - 1 month
|
|The JFK assassination is what led to the creation of the
|current USSS sniper program. But yeah at the time they weren’t
|staffed correctly to do anything to prevent it.
|u/darrenvonbaron - 1 month
|
|The sniper program had 50 years of training and still
|failed.
|u/OddEpisode - 1 month
|
|Time to start a new program! AI Drone surveillance with
|auto threat detection - Until that fails again in 50
|years.
|u/Charming_Cicada_7757 - 1 month
|
|Not true There are several attempts on a presidents life and
|honestly it seems the secret service has been lucky recently.
|Under Obama Someone ran into the White House with a knife and
|got in deep before he was subdued. Someone shot several bullets
|into the White House and the secret service didn’t even know about
|it until several days later. Someone almost killed Gerald ford
|but the gun was jammed or not properly loaded. There are
|actually many many attempts we don’t even hear about I imagine not
|just on the president but other political figures and their
|families.
|u/mdherc - 1 month
|
|*"Someone almost killed Gerald ford but the gun was jammed or
|not properly loaded."* She didn't chamber a round before
|firing. Less than 3 weeks later another woman almost killed
|Gerald Ford but missed her shot by about 5 feet. The Secret
|Service, literally fresh off an assassination attempt failed to
|stop another one and it's just luck that Ford wasn't killed.
|Those are the only two women who have ever attempted to
|assassinate a president, and they both tried to kill Gerald Ford
|in the same month for entirely separate reasons.
|u/DukeOfGeek - 1 month
|
|Squeaky Fromme. She had a colt service automatic, Ford got
|lucky, she pointed it right at his head.
|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeaky_Fromme
|u/aquoad - 1 month
|
|i feel like if they stopped an assasination attempt they'd
|trumpet it far and wide to get something into the news other
|than their fuckups.
|u/WanderThinker - 1 month
|
|Not secret service, but my enlisted friends who have done tours in
|South Korea or Japan just call it "Soldiering". Basically when
|you're on post, you just sit there and have a gun available in case
|something happens. They all hated it.
|u/Youareallbeingpsyopd - 1 month
|
|And when it does happen you are supposed to jump in front of
|bullets. Not really a job where there is alot of data to judge
|performance. I mean you are trying to block someone from something
|that moves way fucking faster than a human that you have no idea
|where it is coming from and you can’t see. This article is dumb. I
|would be getting hammered if my job was eventually to jump in front
|of bullets while working a 16 hour shift with no food.
|u/OhtaniStanMan - 1 month
|
|And when it does happen you literally put your body in front dieing
|for a president as a meat shield.
|u/KintsugiKen - 1 month
|
|Remember when the Secret Service went to Colombia with Obama and their
|first night there they got a bunch of street hookers and brought them
|back to their hotel https://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/secret-
|service-scandal-rocks-obama-trip-075128
|u/CHM11moondog - 1 month
|
|Pepperidge Farms Remembers.
|u/Available_Fold_8199 - 1 month
|
|I've been on rants for decades that the SS needs to have disciplined,
|constantly trained and monitored college-degreed SS agents. I've
|worked under top secret clearances where, depending on job and
|location, some of us were monitored at any and every possible moment
|in our lives and even watched closely as we reported for work.
|Alchohol on breath would be loss of job. Even acting hungover is a
|ticket home and probable counseling for a first offense. So why not
|these guys with their yw clearances? I've never uderstood that.
|u/DrInternetPhDMD - 1 month
|
|Like many individuals or institutions in the government, their
|existence is more to project the illusion of competence than to
|actually do their stated mission. Not to say there aren't or can't
|be individuals who are capable in that role.
|u/Corvidwatcher444 - 1 month
|
|Thats just how most government agents go
|u/GucciGlocc - 1 month
|
|Honestly any government job I went out to give my mailman a gift
|card last year for the holidays, he was drunk as a skunk lol
|Luckily he was on a foot route and not driving but still
|u/Redqueenhypo - 1 month
|
|Our mailman tried to recruit my mom into a ponzi scheme. By which
|I mean he asked her to give him money which he would return with
|doubled the next week. Also tried to recruit her into the NOI (we
|are European Jews so, why??)
|u/Sosen - 1 month
|
|Even if they were sober, what were they gonna do to stop it?
|u/Different_Usual_6586 - 1 month
|
|It's only just come to be that it was very strange to show 13yo high
|school kids that video over and over to see what theories we would come
|up with, probably watched it 30x
|u/Dan-D-Lyon - 1 month
|
|To think we were about 2 inches away from having a whole new video of
|a president's head exploding in HD with which the traumatize students
|in the next generation
|u/hominoid_in_NGC4594 - 1 month
|
|I honestly can not believe how quickly that whole incident has been
|completely forgotten about. No one is even taking about it anymore
|or really even gives a shit, LOL. In any other universe, it would
|have been non-stop news for many moons. But in our new fucked up
|reality, it is like it never even happened. Truly a bizarre world we
|are living in nowadays, post 2016.
|u/undercooked_lasagna - 1 month
|
|It's absolutely insane. It already feels like it's been a year
|because it completely disappeared from the news cycle so quickly.
|As soon as Biden dropped out of the race all of the headlines
|changed to that and a nearly successful assassination attempt went
|into the dustbin of history. 'Hawk Tuah' was a story for longer.
|u/JoshKJokes - 1 month
|
|Well one side doesn’t want to talk about it because it ruins
|their whole platform and the other doesn’t want to talk about it
|because it’s hard to not do that in bad taste from the other
|side .
|u/Sub_pup - 1 month
|
|Gun violence isn't news anymore. Multiple kids get killed and
|it's news for a few weeks. Even Uvalde was more about the cops
|fucking up than kids dying. We have been have been conditioned
|to "let it go" because most of us just accept it as a part of
|life. Shooter was killed and one other person was killed. We
|don't do news stories for the injured or displaced,
|occasionally briefly for a dead victim but even then as a
|society we don't dwell on it.
|u/SaltyBarracuda4 - 1 month
|
|Yup. Shootings are basically as mundane as a car crash in
|America, and honestly the car crashes are probably the
|bigger problem
|u/Deep90 - 1 month
|
|Uvalde voted red, and so did the people who failed them. :/
|u/jefffosta - 1 month
|
|It really stems from the shooter being a registered
|republican. There’s nothing positive to spin when your own
|party tried to assassinate you
|u/PauseMassive3277 - 1 month
|
|Which platform does it ruin and how?
|u/ledbetterus - 1 month
|
|I'm guessing the whole "guns are good" mentality took a bit
|of a hit over there in GOP land after an AR carrying GOP
|supporter took a shot at the head of their snake.
|Everything they've been preaching for years came to
|fruition. It just sort of got reflected back at them.
|u/CheezeLoueez08 - 1 month
|
|But they’ll never admit it and find a way to twist it.
|u/Stickyv35 - 1 month
|
|The ones okay with every Dick, Bob, John, and Stacie owning
|fire arms with virtually no limitations.
|u/Yoke_Enthusiast - 1 month
|
|This is the downside for Republicans of downplaying every
|school, church, nightclub, concert, shopping centre, routine
|traffic stop and all other types of shooting that seem to happen
|every day in America. This was just another shooting that took
|some lives. But that doesn't mean other 'good' Americans
|shouldn't be able to exercise their 2nd amendment rights etc It
|just so happened that one of the surviving casualties was former
|President Trump. But shootings are so routine and reported about
|in such a detached manner as if its a weather report that it can
|be no surprise that this happened and it almost didn't matter to
|most people. If a classroom of kids barely moves the needle then
|what chance does a gun attack that doesn't even kill a
|politician half the population hates?
|u/deep_pants_mcgee - 1 month
|
|Thoughts and prayers.
|u/IgniteThatShit - 1 month
|
|They had to. If Biden didn't decide to drop out, it would have
|been over for the Democrats as they would have been going up
|against what many right-leaning voters would have considered a
|"martyr" or some sort of hero. Trump would have been seen as
|someone who would give their live for the presidency, and that
|whole thing going against Biden? Yeah, he probably would have
|lost in the election, but him dropping out was the best decision
|he could have made for his party because it took all the steam
|right out of that event and moved it all onto Kamala and Tim's
|run. Biden dropping out was not only a decision made to show
|that he understands that he can't really do this anymore, but
|also that it would get ahead of the assassination attempt.
|u/Gogs85 - 1 month
|
|I think it’s a combination of the trump not evoking much empathy
|in people and the fact that the news cycle around Trump was
|already super fast due to the constant stream of horrible stuff
|that he does every week.
|u/mXonKz - 1 month
|
|i think it’s cause it’s a confusing motive that’s hard for
|republicans to use to motivate voters. if the shooter was a
|registered democrat, the story goes “democrats are the party of
|violence, vote for us” or something like that, but cause he was
|a republican the main argument now seems to be whether he was
|actually a republican or not, and that argument really isn’t
|that interesting to discuss cause no one can win and it borders
|on conspiracies and doesn’t help republicans in any way. the
|fact trump ended up being completely fine and everything else
|that happened afterwards took the steam out of the story, but if
|republicans had an angle to push, they absolutely would, but
|there’s just no real good one that makes them look good and
|democrats look bad. the best is “he took a bullet for this
|country” but that hasn’t done much to convince people not
|already on his side
|u/BeautifulStrong9938 - 1 month
|
|I think it is deliberate. Media companies don't want to repeat
|the mistake they did when Trump was ridiculed non-stop before
|getting the presidency. Trump calls them "fake news".
|u/TripolarKnight - 1 month
|
|Can't have the survivor get any publicity from an assassination
|attempt.
|u/MacsDildoBike - 1 month
|
|That’s how the news is curated now and why I refuse to watch or
|read anything put out by any media outlet. We have short
|attention spans, once something is no longer interesting to us
|then we move on and find something else that stimulates us. The
|news media knows this, which is why 24 hour news has become
|sensationalist journalism (and I use that term journalism
|lightly) where it keeps people engaged in one thing for a week
|or so and then immediately changes to something completely
|different. It’s like distracting a cat with a laser.
|u/biznatch11 - 1 month
|
|What do you expect the news media to talk about on this topic?
|If there's been no new developments in the story they'd just
|be repeating the same thing over and over.
|u/galaxy_horse - 1 month
|
|It lasted shorter than a Liz Truss and even shorter than a
|Scaramucci.
|u/eloesch289 - 1 month
|
|“we have to get over it”
|u/Yuuta23 - 1 month
|
|Idk to me it just shows the difference between an almost
|assassination and an assassination we still talk about JFK but not
|many folks mention Reagan almost being shot as often
|u/JoeFajita - 1 month
|
|I mean, how long was the Gerald Ford assassination attempt in the
|public mind? Lady pointed a gun at the dude point blank, and the
|only reason he survived was because she forgot to chamber the
|round. How long were people in 1975 caught up in that? Genuine
|question.
|u/tristenjpl - 1 month
|
|Because it was a republican that did it. The people who hate Trump
|just go "Damn he missed." The people who like Trump can't say too
|much unless they go full on conspiracy theory.
|u/Gaemon_Palehair - 1 month
|
|>The people who hate Trump just go "Damn he missed." Maybe
|initially, but as someone who hates Trump I think it's a damn
|good thing he missed.
|u/Nat_not_Natalie - 1 month
|
|Honestly I think it's because the Dems just took so much
|momentum away with Biden stepping down which is actually even
|more unprecedented than an assassination attempt.
|u/Robinsonirish - 1 month
|
|I feel it already dropped out of the news cycle quite a bit
|even before Biden dropped out. Everything about Trump is just
|crazy. He's said crazy thing after crazy thing for so many
|years now. Back in 2018 or so I was constantly dumbstruck,
|reading what comes out of his own mouth from his Twitter. Now
|we are all used to it. There's pretty much nothing he can say
|to sink lower or get any crazier. An assassination attempt?
|It's just another crazy Trump thing. It's once you take a step
|back and think about the ramifications if he was assassinated
|that it is truly crazy to ponder. So glad the kid didn't kill
|him. Would have turned him into a martyr. Now at least this
|way he can be "killed" politically a final time if he loses,
|there's no way Republicans can sit around with him for another
|4 years, he'd probably be dead. His brain is melting already.
|I think if he loses we will see them drop him completely and
|there's a chance, albeit very very small, that he actually
|goes to jail.
|u/Lotions_and_Creams - 1 month
|
|> Back in 2018 or so I was constantly dumbstruck Same. It
|is/was nearly for a person working a job or in school to
|keep up with all the insane, bizarre, corrupt, etc. things
|he did/does. 
|u/HivePoker - 1 month
|
|People who like Trump are full on conspiracy theorists
|u/GBreezy - 1 month
|
|Im waiting for the "the people who died were deep state" slant
|u/lahimatoa - 1 month
|
|You know how many posts there have been about how Trump wasn't
|actually shot at at all? Conspiracy theories are beloved by
|everyone.
|u/lahimatoa - 1 month
|
|Last I saw, the shooter's political beliefs weren't exactly
|clear. Do you have new information?
|u/The_MAZZTer - 1 month
|
|Nah conservatives ignored that fact just like they do with any
|fact they don't like. They claim Biden was responsible.
|u/ElrecoaI19 - 1 month
|
|He just has to state it was an official act. Duh
|u/PM_ME_FUTANARI420 - 1 month
|
|Source?
|u/The_MAZZTer - 1 month
|
|My dad.
|u/GucciGlocc - 1 month
|
|I mean, they say the shooter was a false flag planted by the
|dems because someone with the same common name in another city
|donated $10 to Biden when the shooter wasn’t even old enough to
|vote They ignore that he’s a registered republican though lol
|u/Detective-Crashmore- - 1 month
|
|What are we supposed to keep talking about it? He lived, the
|shooter died, he was a Internet radicalized conservative with no
|ties to other groups. Case closed. We've already been through
|this before with other people, there's not much left to uncover.
|Maybe the media is finally taking a note on not popularizing
|shooters after all the schools.
|u/5Cents1989 - 1 month
|
|Because the US population has been trained to push shootings out
|of our mind quickly. How many school shootings have there been?
|And how long do they hang around in the news cycle? And people
|generally like kids and don’t think they should be gunned down in
|school. Trump is a politician, and a relatively disliked one at
|that.
|u/Sufficient_Number643 - 1 month
|
|Conservatives wanted a world where we don’t talk about shootings
|after they happen, just “thoughts and prayers” and shut up. Real
|monkey’s paw wish, that one.
|u/SofaKingI - 1 month
|
|They don't want the spotlight on everyone coming together to
|condemn an assassination attempt. That creates a sense that
|common ground is possible, of possible unity. They want people
|to hate eachother so they don't pay attention to corruption.
|u/Zepcleanerfan - 1 month
|
|Well it was healed in a week and he wont release the medical
|reports so probably unlikely it was struck by a bullet
|u/Dangerous-Macaroon7 - 1 month
|
|no one cares to even talk about it lol. It's hilarious how
|much the right wants everyone to care.
|u/TheSorceIsFrong - 1 month
|
|I’d say it’s mostly because it happened to the side who generally
|downplays shootings and killings, so most people don’t feel as bad
|as they would otherwise
|u/Vector_Embedding - 1 month
|
|and the shooter was a republican wearing conservative guntuber
|merch.
|u/wolley_dratsum - 1 month
|
|It's called being memory holed
|u/joethafunky - 1 month
|
|He’s a self consumed narcissist that people are tired of hearing
|about every passing moment. Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?
|u/lateformyfuneral - 1 month
|
|Trump’s advisors said Trump would pivot to unity and capitalize on
|this moment to completely reverse people’s perceptions of him. And
|that lasted about 5 seconds before Trump went back to being
|himself
|u/Zepcleanerfan - 1 month
|
|It's mainly because the shooter had right wing ties and that threw
|off the whole narrative of a crazed leftist trying to kill trumper
|u/SomeRedditorTosspot - 1 month
|
|The media does not want to glorify Trump in any way.
|u/Oxidized_Shackles - 1 month
|
|Honestly glad it didn't happen to Biden. Reddit would NEVER shut
|tf up about it.
|u/Reboared - 1 month
|
|They're terrified it will give Trump a popularity boost. Sources
|like Google even went as far as to intentionally suppress it.
|u/Anterai - 1 month
|
|If it was an attempt on Biden, we would be hearing about it until
|the election. With redditors commenting "they tried to ASSASSINATE
|him" and acting smug. but nope, wrong prez.
|u/AverageAwndray - 1 month
|
|I thank Biden every day for stealing the thunder lol
|u/ProbablySlacking - 1 month
|
|About the time he took off the maxi pad and his ear was magically
|healed, we all kind of collectively shrugged. Look, I’m not
|saying there wasn’t an attempt, or that it was staged or
|something, but as soon as his ear was magically healed it called
|into question so many things about the event that it isn’t even
|worth discussing. We’ll never get the whole story on it, so what’s
|the point?
|u/ATG915 - 1 month
|
|Someone would sue if they showed that shit in school nowadays lol
|u/AtlasRafael - 1 month
|
|Considering technology now, it would be going around everywhere at
|school. Shown by faculty or not.
|u/ATG915 - 1 month
|
|Some parent (I think a cop) recently sued a school for showing a
|rap video in class saying the kid was traumatized by it cause it
|showed a cop getting hurt or killed or something like that. If a
|teacher showed someone getting shot in the head there would be
|lawsuits, regardless of it being all over social media
|u/AtlasRafael - 1 month
|
|Not disagreeing. My point is that it doesn’t matter.
|Everyone would be spreading it and watching it while at
|school. I get what you’re saying though. Officially showing
|it, from a faculty member, is a no-no.
|u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl - 1 month
|
|Not like you could stop it, would be all over the internet,
|everyone has phones
|u/Conch-Republic - 1 month
|
|Well, it probably wouldn't have been the same level of gross. JFK
|was shot with 6.5 carcano, which is a big heavy slug of a round over
|twice the weight as 5.56.
|u/Kerbonaut2019 - 1 month
|
|It would’ve been far more shocking though, the Zapruder film is
|graphic but it is not very high resolution so a lot is still left
|to the imagination. If the same had happened to Trump in high
|definition, the video would be far more disturbing than the
|Zapruder film.
|u/Bigdaddyjlove1 - 1 month
|
|I'm struggling to imagine just how many angles there would be.
|The amount of video we capture at these kind of events is insane
|u/Zhang5 - 1 month
|
|Ex-president, emphasis on the "ex"
|u/revolmak - 1 month
|
|I think it would have fomented a civil war. And even if it
|didn't, there's zero chance it would have kicked off better gun
|regulation. They will spin it any other way before admitting guns
|are a problem.
|u/datow2002 - 1 month
|
|This generation is traumatized on a weekly basis, That would’ve just
|been another Tuesday
|u/Moistfish0420 - 1 month
|
|Can't believe I almost witnessed that. What a weird fucking timeline
|we are on. It happened and I was like fuck...the yanks are
|definitely gonna elect him now. With Ukraine, Russia at the
|door...not what I'd call a comforting thought. I'm closer than you
|guys are, and I really, really don't want war to be on my doorstep
|in my lifetime... Then now Kamala and some hope, as a foreigner.
|Ukraine gets some jets, starts pushing into Russia lol. Close(r) to
|the end of that madness 🤞 What a weird fucking timeline. I think
|we, as in worldwide, need some goddamn peace. COVID, war, the
|economy going to shit...I want some fucking stability and peace FFS.
|u/another-reddit-noob - 1 month
|
|If it makes you feel any better, we traumatized the newer generations
|too — I remember watching a super cut of 9/11 victims jumping to their
|deaths every year in middle school.
|u/Legitimate-BurnerAcc - 1 month
|
|I saw that happen live in middle school.
|u/partyinplatypus - 1 month
|
|offbeat dam sleep glorious door arrest busy historical flag lush
|*This post was mass deleted and anonymized with
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|u/DeityOfDespairThe2nd - 1 month
|
|I was in 4th or 5th grade when they wheeled in the TV for it, and
|that took away our recess. My dad was super pissed they showed us
|that.
|u/Bigdaddyjlove1 - 1 month
|
|Fir us, it was the Challenger explosion. Just stunned silenced
|for what seemed like forever.
|u/Omegalazarus - 1 month
|
|Yeah but that was news before it blew up these other schools
|seem sadistic. They're showing something that's only news
|because it's a disaster and a loss of life so they're like
|bringing a TV in to watch to show a bunch of kids at what it
|looks like when people die
|u/rampaging_beardie - 1 month
|
|I was in third grade, they also wheeled a TV into my classroom,
|and that was the one time I ever remember my mom actually
|calling the school to complain about something. She had
|purposefully left us in school to keep from scaring us that
|something was wrong. Boy did that backfire.
|u/Bigdaddyjlove1 - 1 month
|
|I watched it in the lobby of a mid level hotel, because I had
|flown out on business the night before. Was a strange week out on
|the road trying to get home.
|u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl - 1 month
|
|Also challenger
|u/DrummingNozzle - 1 month
|
|January 1986. I was in 4th grade. They wheeled a TV cart into the
|cafeteria so we could watch the launch live and then *OH no!*
|u/HimalayanPunkSaltavl - 1 month
|
|A really interesting thing where like a decade wide cohort of
|Americans have the same experience. Like, basically every single
|school in america did that. If you weren't skipping school or
|home schooled or something and in that age group you very likely
|were in a cafeteria or gym or maybe class if your school was
|ballin outa control and watched a space shuttle blow up live.
|I wonder how much of a calming effect that had on americans
|wanting to go into space related fields
|u/worfsspacebazooka - 1 month
|
|Can you imagine if big bird had been aboard.
|u/olhardhead - 1 month
|
|Oh wow. Mom was 4th grade teacher. I was in 1st grade. They
|showed it in every class every grade. Fast forward 2001 and I’m
|working in the same school district watching a whole nother
|event. Can’t blame the internet on everything. But we got a lot
|of tech very fast in the last 50-60 years. Maybe too fast for
|our evolution to deal with 
|u/Lordborgman - 1 month
|
|I remember being in my college cafeteria eating lunch before my
|Calculus class, I thought they had yet another movie in which the
|Twin Towers gets exploded. Was not until I got into Calculus and he
|wheeled out a TV till I realized it was news and not a movie.
|u/Valdrax - 1 month
|
|I remember when the second plane hit thinking, "Man, movie special
|effects are good." Not because I thought it was fake, but because
|it didn't look any different from what I'd expect to see in a
|movie about it.
|u/Lordborgman - 1 month
|
|I think I had just recently watched Independence day a few days
|ago...so yeah, explosions.
|u/kog - 1 month
|
|I can't say my school showed me that...
|u/dudeguymanbro69 - 1 month
|
|I thought I was the only one lmao
|u/Conch-Republic - 1 month
|
|I remember seeing this in my freshman high school government history
|class. Our teacher, a really cool old Vietnam vet, rolled out the TV,
|and said "you're about to see the assassination of a US president",
|then played it. It was three seconds of JFK sitting in the car, then
|his head exploded. The entire class gasped, and like 30 seconds later
|a couple kids started either crying or hyperventilating. The next day
|he apologized profusely, and said that anyone could go see their
|guidance counselor for as long as they needed. Crazy times.
|u/slick_james - 1 month
|
|My HS teacher showed it to us about that many times in 2012 but we
|were like 16
|u/ShawtyLikeAHarmony - 1 month
|
|I watched the video while in 8th grade. Unbeknownst to me, I was
|starting to fight off a stomach bug. I lost.
|u/jradio - 1 month
|
|We did this in 6th grade. So. Much. Research. We got tricked into
|learning. Well played, Mr. Kline.
|u/Petrichordates - 1 month
|
|Your teacher was probably obsessed with the topic.
|u/no-anonymity-is-fine - 1 month
|
|I saw the video of his head exploding in 8th grade I did not like it
|and I think about it from time to time We never rewatched it like
|that though. That's wild
|u/ERedfieldh - 1 month
|
|Remember, in America horrific gratuitous violence is A-Okay but if one
|nipple "accidentally" slips for half a second during half-time the
|country loses it's collective shit.
|u/BananaResearcher - 1 month
|
|My middle school math teacher spent more time on kennedy
|assassination docs than on math. He also got arrested for having a
|relationship with a 6th grade student and trying to flee to another
|country with her. Coincidence? I think...probably, yea, but still.
|u/Killer_Moons - 1 month
|
|Infinite teenagers and typewriters theorem?
|u/AEW_SuperFan - 1 month
|
|Yeah our entire sophomore history year was just talking about the
|teacher's conspiracy theories.
|u/B_Bibbles - 1 month
|
|Did you know there's a game, I'm blanking on the name right now, where
|the sole purpose is to recreate the assassination using "detailed and
|accurate bullet physics" and there a prize to see if anyone could
|accurately recreate the shot patterns and blow out the back of JFKs
|head to make his wife grab the piece on the trunk. I think it's
|JFK:Reloaded or something. You can still play the game to this day.
|[Found It!](https://youtu.be/C5U5iu85oUM?si=gnCfi-WwXpSg85jW)
|u/thecarbonkid - 1 month
|
|Have they AI upscaled the Zapruder movie yet?
|u/wholesome_doggo69 - 1 month
|
|I thought I was the only one 😭, my teacher did this back in 2021
|u/enjambd - 1 month
|
|Lol in middle school we watched an entire Discovery channel
|documentary about the JFK assassination conspiracies .They even had a
|sniper do an exact recreation of Oswald's shots to see if it was
|possible. Looking back that is pretty weird
|u/LemonadeParadeinDade - 1 month
|
|It's authoritarian as hell
|u/cinnamon-toast-life - 1 month
|
|My history teacher was also into the Kennedy assassination. We
|watched the video so many times, had diagrams, with measurements and
|trajectories, etc. do they not do that in high school anymore? I
|guess now they watch the 9/11 attack videos. We watched that one
|live. ☹️
|u/ViolinistMean199 - 1 month
|
|secret service back then: not good Secret service 2024: oh hey that
|just has a gun at the trump rally. I’m sure he’s cool Also secret
|service 2024: reportedly breaking into businesses to use toilets
|u/kwixta - 1 month
|
|Don’t forget including Colombian hookers on their expense reports and
|drunkenly crashing their car into the west wing portico. Vying for
|stupidest govt agency you have to go big or go home
|u/AnotherBoringDad - 1 month
|
|Or the guy who ran through the front door of the White House WITH A
|KNIFE and got to run around for a few minutes before someone finally
|tackled him.
|u/PartiZAn18 - 1 month
|
|Being ignorant to their antics I always thought they were this cool
|shadowy agency, but the comments make it seem like they're a bunch
|of clown hacks.
|u/Youareallbeingpsyopd - 1 month
|
|I mean in every job there is a bunch of clown hacks.
|u/oldaccountnotwork - 1 month
|
|I can't find anything for the crashing car into the West Wing
|statement. Is there somewhere I could read about that?
|u/Ppaultime - 1 month
|
|It makes more sense when you realize that on-duty SS are essentially
|deployed military personnel. Yeah they don't wear the fatigues and
|the hotels are cushier than your average barracks, but I would wager
|your average agent probably treats the downtime the same as any
|grunt living out of a barracks and when on active detail probably
|makes very little distinction between a cozy American town and a
|trip to a foreign country. Hell, they're probably encouraged not
|to make that distinction.
|u/___Art_Vandelay___ - 1 month
|
|Also secret service 2021: let's delete all our text messages leading
|up to January 6, no big deal.
|u/Possible-Tangelo9344 - 1 month
|
|But the roof was *slightly* sloped!
|u/Youareallbeingpsyopd - 1 month
|
|The best story is the guy who peaked over the roof by standing on
|another guys shoulders and then fell down because the shooter aimed
|at him. It really sounds like and episode of three stooges. You
|can’t make this shit up.
|u/JustAzConfusedAzYou - 1 month
|
|Also, let's not forget the Jan 6 phone evidence that was conveniently
|wiped.
|u/DrummingNozzle - 1 month
|
|I musta had me about 15 Dr Peppers
|u/wookiee42 - 1 month
|
|Just heard an interesting theory. The USSS is so busy that they never
|have time to train.
|u/80sBadGuy - 1 month
|
|And who bought the drinks? Deputy director of the CIA! I don't know,
|actually.
|u/BitCoiner905 - 1 month
|
|I heard they only had one shot.
|u/laughatmysongs - 1 month
|
|To seize everything they ever wanted
|u/Legitimate-BurnerAcc - 1 month
|
|One moment...
|u/Aarnbill1 - 1 month
|
|Would you capture it?
|u/torrinage - 1 month
|
|Or just let it slip
|u/CleanBongWater420 - 1 month
|
|His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy.
|u/mhac009 - 1 month
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|There's brain on her sweater already.
|u/lashapel - 1 month
|
|Bro ....
|u/Sativatoshi - 1 month
|
|Johns spaghetti
|u/Chicagosox133 - 1 month
|
|While in even poorer taste, I feel like “brain confetti”
|would work while upholding the original rhyme structure.
|u/GWOSNUBVET - 1 month
|
|Blood on her sweater already. Brain confetti.
|u/Berger43 - 1 month
|
|You stared at this thread for 20 minutes just waiting
|for your moment didn't you
|u/mhac009 - 1 month
|
|Just one of those fortunate right place right times...
|u/Humphucker - 1 month
|
|Yo
|u/lism - 1 month
|
|His palms spaghetti, knees weak, arms spaghetti. There's
|spaghetti on his spaghetti already, moms spaghetti
|u/imsahoamtiskaw - 1 month
|
|He's nervous, but on the surface he looks like
|spaghetti, to drop bombs, and even more spaghetti
|u/crochet-fae - 1 month
|
|His arms are heavy
|u/Light01 - 1 month
|
|One opportunity.
|u/Fusionism - 1 month
|
|And they were just smoking on some of that grassy knoll
|u/McMacHack - 1 month
|
|This opportunity only comes once in a lifetime
|u/Assman1138 - 1 month
|
|Brains on Jackie's sweater already John's spagheadi
|u/therealjohnsmith - 1 month
|
|I used to buy grass from a guy named Noel
|u/Jaw709 - 1 month
|
|Merry Christmas, but what was his name?
|u/iron_vet - 1 month
|
|Yule know it when you hear it.
|u/Daniel3_5_7 - 1 month
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|I heard only one opportunity
|u/BiggusDickus- - 1 month
|
|Yea, but one can still give you a serious headache.
|u/TheRazorBoyComes - 1 month
|
|Do not miss your chance to blow.
|u/MVSmith69 - 1 month
|
|If you want to listen to great research on the subject there is a
|podcast named...Who killed JFK... It has great information backed up
|by research of the National Archives and the library of Congress.
|Informative and very well presented
|u/DaBigBird27 - 1 month
|
|Actually multiple shots coming from different angles.
|u/HOPewerth - 1 month
|
|One opportunity
|u/matt_1060 - 1 month
|
|4 shots
|u/Capt-J- - 1 month
|
|And what a magical shot it was!
|u/Flikker - 1 month
|
|They did not miss their chance to blow
|u/raptir1 - 1 month
|
|I heard it was two.
|u/Royal-Tough4851 - 1 month
|
|“Which motorcade?”
|u/Stompedyourhousewith - 1 month
|
|it was a pretty magical shot
|u/svenner2020 - 1 month
|
|Well two, but the other came later when they were behind the grassy,
|pukey knoll.
|u/iluvsporks - 1 month
|
|No scope!
|u/timfromcolorado - 1 month
|
|Awarded😌 Clever.
|u/Proof-Maintenance528 - 1 month
|
|👏🏽 Bravo, bravo from start to finish
|u/EightBitEstep - 1 month
|
|Moms spaghetti!
|u/inplayruin - 1 month
|
|I counted at least 3
|u/RaymondStereo - 1 month
|
|They had a second shooter.
|u/donbee28 - 1 month
|
|*…back and to the left…*
|u/Crisjamesdole - 1 month
|
|Lol
|u/Car-face - 1 month
|
|The Silver Bulleit theory
|u/WolfghengisKhan - 1 month
|
|Well done.
|u/MVSmith69 - 1 month
|
|And DT didn't cheat on his wives or his taxes...
|u/MaximumDeathShock - 1 month
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|Much less than Kennedy had.
|u/anthr0x1028 - 1 month
|
|Back and to the left... Back... And to the left.
|u/Venom_224 - 1 month
|
|The magic shot
|u/Ditch_Tornado - 1 month
|
|>And who bought the drinks? Emilio Estevez! The Mighty Duck man, I
|swear to God!
|u/Lucky_Chaarmss - 1 month
|
|And I was like, EMILIOOOOOOO!
|u/__thrillho - 1 month
|
|EMILIOOOOO!
|u/joeysprezza - 1 month
|
|Did he tip his hat?!
|u/MarsRoswell - 1 month
|
|Emilio. Estevez.
|u/pfy5002 - 1 month
|
|Assuming you mean Avery Bullock that definitely tracks
|u/StungTwice - 1 month
|
|He was calibrating his machine that turns water into cocaine.
|u/justforkinks0131 - 1 month
|
|Bernard James Sanders
|u/Plane-Tie6392 - 1 month
|
|The communist?!
|u/BrokenEye3 - 1 month
|
|Communism was just a red herring.
|u/EntityDamage - 1 month
|
|Yes. Yes, I did it. I killed Yvette. I hated her, so
|much...[stammers] it-it- the f - it -flam - flames. Flames, on
|the side of my face, breathing-breathl- heaving breaths. Heaving
|breaths... Heathing...
|u/Publius82 - 1 month
|
|Even if that were true, it would be 1+1+2+1, *not* 1+2+1+1!
|u/knightress_oxhide - 1 month
|
|He is very well read
|u/humdinger44 - 1 month
|
|Maybe he's just very well red
|u/RBI_Double - 1 month
|
|Bernard Иосиф Sanders
|u/Greedy-Cantaloupe - 1 month
|
|Hello fellow person of culture
|u/Jovias_Tsujin - 1 month
|
|Bullock? I'd believe it.
|u/mooseflute4001 - 1 month
|
|Ahh Avery Bullock would totally do that /s
|u/jwrosenfeld - 1 month
|
|This is a well-known fact among Kennedy conspiracy theorists (of which
|I am one - since Mark Lane first showed the still as- then-classified
|Zapruder film to me and my folks at our local library in 1975). It is
|Occam’s Razor. What’s more likely… a plot to dethrone the president
|by intoxicating his Praetorian guard, or a bunch of young men getting
|too drunk after a shift?
|u/DoubleUnplusGood - 1 month
|
|Jack Ruby
|u/cnzmur - 1 month
|
|Jacob Rubenstein.
|u/Demonweed - 1 month
|
|It might have been Jack Ruby with the booze, but it was the CIA with
|the bankroll for it.
|u/DontGetUpGentlemen - 1 month
|
|Albert Einstein ?
|u/Dull-Contact120 - 1 month
|
|Bush senior was the director and LBJ got the most to gain ….
|u/Adventurous-Shop1270 - 1 month
|
|Lee Harvey Oswald
|u/HelloYouSuck - 1 month
|
|No, but they were drinking at a night club. Who killed Oswald again?
|u/MaxwellHillbilly - 1 month
|
|Actually [That was the Mayor of Dallas'
|brother](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_P._Cabell) But the
|Secret Service just went and got drunk on their own, some of them
|actually lost their identification
|u/here_now_be - 1 month
|
|> who bought the drinks? No one will ever know who provided those
|cases of vodka.
|u/WonderfulShelter - 1 month
|
|the fact that thousands of people's minds immediately went to the CIA
|speaks for itself
|u/ilikethemaymays - 1 month
|
|ALBERT EINSTEIN
|u/SolomonG - 1 month
|
|Probably JFK. Dude knew how to party.
|u/13igTyme - 1 month
|
|Thanks for the input, Relno the story keeper.
|u/LEX_Talionus00101100 - 1 month
|
|No. They told me to put it all on Johnny's tab. He's good for it.
|He'll come pay you tomorrow about 5.
|u/DAHFreedom - 1 month
|
|Did you know the Deputy Director of Planning was down in Managua,
|Nicaragua the day before the earthquake?
|u/KnightofForestsWild - 1 month
|
|Why they *really* wear sunglasses.
|u/MasterSpliffBlaster - 1 month
|
|Imagine being hung over and having to run along side the car for a few
|hours
|u/KnightofForestsWild - 1 month
|
|Most are gleaned from the military. Probably takes them back to when
|they first got off base in basic and had to do PT at 5 AM
|u/Shelltoesyes - 1 month
|
|As far as the SS goes, is there anything they could have done
|differently? Besides having an agent posted in the book depository?
|u/getthedudesdanny - 1 month
|
|Slammed on the gas after the first shot, enforced a car with a roof,
|deployed counter snipers, etc. Unfortunately none of those were
|standard practice at the time and only became standard after this and
|other tragic events.
|u/IamSkudd - 1 month
|
|Imagine one sitting at home watching the parade… “god I feel like my
|head is gonna explode…”
|u/Mountainbranch - 1 month
|
|That's my pet conspiracy theory. JFK wasn't assassinated, he just
|had a really bad migraine and his head did that by itself.
|u/Cthulhuhoop - 1 month
|
|Hail yourselves.
|u/Just_a_guy81 - 1 month
|
|Megustalations
|u/Mobileoblivion - 1 month
|
|Fuck yeah, LPOTL folks coming out of the woodwork. I'm pretty
|convinced the Secret Service did accidentally shoot Kennedy
|the second time.
|u/Just_a_guy81 - 1 month
|
|Right! They made a damn compelling argument for that theory.
|I didn’t think I’d like that episode as much as I did. The
|whole Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories has been
|played out for the last sixty years, but they gave a fresh
|take on it that I haven’t heard before.
|u/rangefoulerexpert - 1 month
|
|HAIL ME! AHAHAHA
|u/Conch-Republic - 1 month
|
|I call it the no bullet theory, his head just did that.
|u/everydaywasnovember - 1 month
|
|My name is Jones… Enema Bag Jones
|u/oeCake - 1 month
|
|It was his special ability. Unlike most superheroes, he was born
|knowing what he had to do. That day, he looked over at his wife
|and said, "Wanna see something cool?" and history was made
|u/dern_the_hermit - 1 month
|
|The "assassination cover-up" was actually just a hastily-staged
|fake assassination to hide the fact that human heads can just...
|do that.
|u/jkink28 - 1 month
|
|I can't imagine what the hangover regret would feel like if you allow
|someone's head to explode
|u/ExZowieAgent - 1 month
|
|And now you got a whole bunch of more work to do cause there’s a guy
|with a gun. Nightmare hangover.
|u/ShillBot666 - 1 month
|
|Kennedy's head was not actually sore since the bullet tearing through
|the back of his skull and decimating his brain meant he was dead(or at
|least brain dead) almost instantly. He wouldn't even have had time to
|register the pain before his death.
|u/BobbyTables829 - 1 month
|
|He was shot in the neck first
|u/sha_man - 1 month
|
|And the sad part is you could see in the footage that he couldn't
|bend over to avoid the second fatal shot because he was wearing
|his back brace.
|u/tifumostdays - 1 month
|
|The entry was most certainly the back, not the neck. We have that
|photograph now, so the Warren Commission lie can be put to rest.
|u/Gizogin - 1 month
|
|Which photograph are you referring to?
|u/tifumostdays - 1 month
|
|The "Rydberg drawing" in the Warren report it what's
|inaccurate. It's bullshit. And Ford decided to switch the
|worsting from back to base of the neck for "clarity". Odd that
|those mistakes both made the single shooter from the sniper's
|nest much more plausible. The photos are in the archives and
|not hard to find. You can see the bullet wound below the top
|line of the shoulder, just like on the death certificate, and
|the notes of the FBI agents at the autopsy.
|u/Bradiator34 - 1 month
|
|Ooof. But yeah
|u/Ver_Void - 1 month
|
|Yeah but they had way more than 2 shots
|u/tteuh - 1 month
|
|I miss when the JFK assassination was the big conspiracy theory.
|Plausible narratives with interesting links between each theory.
|Nowadays, it’s just Q folks lazily saying completely outlandish things.
|u/no1scumbag - 1 month
|
|You should check out The Last Podcast on the Left then. They go down
|the rabbit hole on a bunch of the classics, and present very clearly
|articulated histories and context. They’re not just debunkers
|either. The JFK assassination series of episodes is probably my
|favorite of theirs, and is rife with conspiracies, including their own
|opinion on the most probable. Plus it’s very very funny.
|u/NostrilLurker - 1 month
|
|Their theory is still my favorite. Its a perfect combination of
|intent by Oswald, incompetence by the Secret Service, and pure
|cosmic chance that both intersected at the same time to create the
|primordial conspiracy theory
|u/caudicifarmer - 1 month
|
|It's not *their* theory, really - just the one they like
|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error
|u/Confident_Series8226 - 1 month
|
|Been my favorite theory since watching The Smoking Gun which is
|a documentary that comes up every November.
|[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5\_Fw-
|ewClc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5_Fw-ewClc)
|u/Tornado_Wind_of_Love - 1 month
|
|Naw, this is the truth about what happened. [https://www.yout
|ube.com/watch?v=KmkmKrbMgvI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K
|mkmKrbMgvI)
|u/Marx0r - 1 month
|
|Trevor Moore got too close to the truth and "fell off a
|balcony."
|u/SunRaMartian - 1 month
|
|I thought he was trying to suck his own dick
|u/Tornado_Wind_of_Love - 1 month
|
|Yep - he was flying too close to the sun. Or lunar bears
|involved with intergalactic wizard cartels.
|u/SnazzyStooge - 1 month
|
|Came here to post this!! Fits the “law of incompetence”
|brilliantly — only plausible reason I can justify for all the
|coverups — hiding government negligence.
|u/MetalDragon6666 - 1 month
|
|Not to detract from the book, but the author's name is Bonar ???
|Had absolutely no idea that was a name lol.
|u/Dark_Nugget - 1 month
|
|I really like this response, it's so human 😂 like, you could
|be the smartest guy in the world, but your name is still Bonar
|u/LowSavings6716 - 1 month
|
|That’s why it’s probably true. We all know the government did
|something suspicious about Kennedy’s death. But the most likely
|answer is a cover up of the most gross incompetence you can
|imagine. But then again gross incompetence also nearly ended
|Trump too.
|u/scondileeza99 - 1 month
|
|and it explains why they would seal the file for 75 years…to
|protect his family and the service for a while. Mortal Error
|make sense!
|u/Redqueenhypo - 1 month
|
|It’s like how a lot of plane crashes that aren’t the result of
|wing ice or weird new thunderstorm thing are actually a bunch of
|incompetent actions strung together. Like some idiot making two
|different parts almost identical, and then a second idiot
|installing the wrong one into the plane without reading the
|serial number, and then two more idiots not noticing the fuel
|had been “refilled” by nobody.
|u/Verystrangeperson - 1 month
|
|It's wild that they haven't learned from their mistakes. If you
|asked me a few months back, I would have thought the US
|president and candidates would have some of the best security in
|the world. And yet a random dude almost ended Trump, and
|relatively easily too. Wherever you are on the political
|spectrum, Trump is one of the most divisive political candidate
|in decades, it's really not surprising someone tried to pop him.
|It's really not a good look
|u/Verystrangeperson - 1 month
|
|Yes, I get that, but I thought, or expected rather better.
|Secret service, nuclear plants, aeronautics, biochemical
|labs... There are parts of every countries where fucking up
|is just not acceptable. I am not American, and have no love
|for Trump, but something like this should not be possible.
|It wasn't a big conspiracy or coordinated attack, it was a
|fucking rando with a gun. I think the person in charge quit
|but there must be deep structural problems for anything like
|this to happen
|u/petit_cochon - 1 month
|
|I mean, Trump almost hit his head blown off recently because of
|the Secret Service being terrible, so really all you need is luck,
|a weapon, and a few people to fail to do their job. Not an
|improbable combination.
|u/NostrilLurker - 1 month
|
|I do wonder what the ratio of executed assassination plots vs
|thwarted ones we’ve never heard of is
|u/Barnyard_Rich - 1 month
|
|Yep, it's been real fun to see them go from full esoterica to a
|more grounded approach to things deeply unlike the Joe Rogans and
|Alex Joneses of those who have dragged conspiracy thought fully to
|the right. As they often point out, if you go down into
|conspiracy thought enough, there comes a point where you pretty
|much have to blame the Jews for everything. It's so fun to look at
|conspiracy thought right before the "look at the next page to find
|out why this is a globalist conspiracy."
|u/Nek0_eUpHoriA - 1 month
|
|Those episodes were great. Never ask Oswald a knock knock joke.
|u/Codydw12 - 1 month
|
|I TOLD YOU TO STOP KNOCKING
|u/RisusSardonicus4622 - 1 month
|
|The Salem witch trials one was fucking hilarious too.
|u/wallybinbaz - 1 month
|
|What happened to the guy that isn't Henry and isn't the main
|storyteller guy?
|u/TastefulNudity - 1 month
|
|Ben Kissel got in trouble for some alleged abuse from an ex-
|girlfriend and was booted from the show/network. Was replaced by
|Ed Larson.
|u/BadNewsBaguette - 1 month
|
|Larson is bloody wonderful too
|u/WaltWoodman - 1 month
|
|He’s been a big improvement to the show in my opinion. He’s
|funny and seemingly more attentive to what Marcus and Henry
|say.
|u/Barnyard_Rich - 1 month
|
|For those who don't know, Henry wasn't even supposed to be
|on the show, he was just an early guest and they kept
|bringing him back to the point where they joked about it
|more than 100 episodes in that he was still talked about as
|a guest. Ed and Henry were in a sketch group going back 20
|years now, so they are even tighter than Ben ever was with
|the rest. It was easily the smoothest transition I've seen
|in the podcast space when someone got jettisoned. It also
|helps that a lot of people never cared for Ben. That being
|said, I'm currently relistening to Roundtable of Gentlemen,
|and if you want to hear a bunch of podcasting that would be
|cancelled today, I highly recommend it so long as you have a
|decently strong stomach.
|u/AprilDruid - 1 month
|
|Ed plays the average idiot role, all while being hilarious.
|u/wallybinbaz - 1 month
|
|Ben, that's his name. I don't listen often but jumped in on an
|episode with Ed and was surprised. Kept forgetting to Google
|it. I don't mind Ed.
|u/TheHowlingHashira - 1 month
|
|11/22/63 by Steven King is really good too. If you want a unique
|story driven perspective on the whole assassination. King did a lot
|of research on all the conspiracy theories before writing the book.
|u/Alienziscoming - 1 month
|
|As long as you don't mind people stopping every three minutes while
|telling an interesting story to laugh at their own jokes.
|u/undercooked_lasagna - 1 month
|
|Yep. I tried listening to LPOTL but couldn't stand it for that
|reason. I got 20 minutes into an episode about some horrible
|murder and maybe half of the dialogue was the actual topic and the
|rest was bros joking and laughing with each other. Just couldn't
|do it.
|u/MasterReflex - 1 month
|
|ya i love the show but its not for everyone, i don’t even try
|showing it to people anymore lol also henry can get on my nerves
|sometimes
|u/R3AL1Z3 - 1 month
|
|I love LPOTL but sometimes I feel like Henry hijacks the
|conversation often.
|u/Alienziscoming - 1 month
|
|Yeah, same! It's a shame because it's been recommended so highly
|to me by at least two people and the parts where they stayed on
|topic were actually very interesting and well presented.
|u/matt_1060 - 1 month
|
|Hey thank you for the heads up! 👍
|u/LowSavings6716 - 1 month
|
|Seconded. They present the most coherent theory to date.
|u/ranged_ - 1 month
|
|You cannot pay me to listen to more than a minute of Henry
|Zebrowski's humor and voice.
|u/Terrible_Review4784 - 1 month
|
|Hail Gein!! This is great, an LPOTL sighting in the wild.. my wife
|will never believe it.
|u/Reecosuavey - 1 month
|
|THANK YOU. I rarely see their series in JFK threads but I loved the
|final theory about the whole thing.
|u/v3n0mat3 - 1 month
|
|To this day after listening to their episode on it I believe that
|the Agent that accidentally killed JFK sounds the most convincing.
|We'll likely never know the real story as to what happened, but damn
|was it a convincing argument.
|u/Diamondhands_Rex - 1 month
|
|I like wendigoons example too
|u/4stringsoffury - 1 month
|
|Hail Satan!
|u/yarash - 1 month
|
|Hail Yourself!
|u/BrokenEye3 - 1 month
|
|I don't mind outlandish, but the laziness does get to me. There's not
|even any lore, plausible or otherwise, behind half of this shit. They
|just come up with a headline and leave it at that.
|u/halhallelujah - 1 month
|
|Still wild to remember them standing at Dealy plaza waiting for JFK’s
|son to make a miraculous return. Even though he died in a plane crash.
|And those Qanon weirdos did this only 3 years ago.
|u/PeopleofYouTube - 1 month
|
|90% of the time conspiracy theories are antisemitic. Flat earth? Jews
|and their globalist society. 911 terrorist attacks? Jews. Covid? You
|guessed it, Jews.
|u/PeopleofYouTube - 1 month
|
|Could you imagine how many 9/11s I would have? At least three. /s
|u/BanAnimeClowns - 1 month
|
|George Bush isn't Jewish
|u/PeopleofYouTube - 1 month
|
|Edward Hendrie thinks he is in his flat earth book. The thing
|about conspiracy theories is that they usually make zero sense and
|ignore facts entirely unless they serve their agenda.
|u/guimontag - 1 month
|
|Buddy, they were always stupid shit, you just never cared about the
|quality of the "evidence" if you thought they were plausible 
|u/KimDongBong - 1 month
|
|Eh. A ton of lefty’s were saying the trump attempt was a
|setup/conspiracy etc
|u/ILikeBrightShirts - 1 month
|
|Don’t worry, we still have the Granddaddy of conspiracy theories
|-UFOs! - except it seems like it might be more “conspiracy fact” than
|“theory” these days. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/scientists-
|serious-ufo-uap-security Also a lawyer named Danny Sheehan has
|alleged UFOs and JFK assassination are related. It’s quite a story.
|2024 is a wild time to be alive.
|u/PainfuIPeanutBlender - 1 month
|
|Wait so the aliens killed jfk?
|u/ILikeBrightShirts - 1 month
|
|I actually LOL'd at this :D that's not quite it, it's a bit more
|believable actually haha! Here's the story but first the source:
|The source of this story is a guy named Danny Sheehan. He's a
|pretty successful lawyer and, while not without controversy, he's
|been involved in some pretty major things in the past few decades
|of American politics, like the Pentagon Papers, the Watergate
|case, the Greensboro Massacre, and more recently things like the
|Dakota Access Pipeline issue. He's a public interest lawyer, and
|is well connected in Washington - in other words, he's a
|reasonably credible guy from what I can tell. And he's said some
|WILD shit about UFOs in general, but in particular on one podcast
|he told a story about how UFOs and JFK were connected. Some will
|dispute Danny's connection to these things and his take on UFOs of
|course, so take that as you will. So, the story as he tells it
|is this: Nixon, when he was VP, was the Chairperson of some kind
|of committee that dealt with national security and intel matters,
|and that committee set up "Kill Teams" to target prominent
|communitsts like Guevara and Castro. Danny apparently took the
|disposition of a member of one of these kill teams, and he was
|apparently the dude who killed Che Guevara, as evidenced by the
|fact that he took Che's wristwatch *and fucking wore it daily
|including in his interview with Sheehan.* So this guy starts
|saying how the kill teams were set up and put under the control of
|the CIA. They never got Castro, but they did get Che (and his
|watch). Fast forward to JFK, and apparently JFK sends a letter to
|the CIA saying "Hey, you guys better cooperate with the Russians
|on this UFO thing." (https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna42704241)
|The CIA did not like that, so they dispatched one of these kill
|teams to take out Kennedy, which connects to that whole "Oswald
|was a patsy, there was more than one shooter, grassy knoll, magic
|bullet" stuff that we are already so familiar with when it comes
|to JFK. This is then connected to Watergate because Nixon knew
|he was responsible for setting up the kill teams, and even though
|he had nothing to do with them being used against Kennedy years
|later, he knew that not a single person on earth would believe
|that if the origin of these kill teams was traced back to him,
|hence his deep fear about the watergate tapes going out and the
|scandal that ensued. I can't remember the podcast where he talks
|about this stuff - the Danny Jones one is fascinating with Sheehan
|but I can't recall if JFK and the Kill Teams came up in that
|podcast or in a different one. 2024 man. Wild time.
|u/Via_Reuters - 1 month
|
|Think I found it here
|https://youtu.be/ALIW1gFLYfA?si=rLBN_ynjSbZrAGLI ?
|u/ILikeBrightShirts - 1 month
|
|Thank you!! I think that’s it yes!!
|u/callipygiancultist - 1 month
|
|With the help of Elvis and Bigfoot, yes.
|u/Mando_The_Moronic - 1 month
|
|One of my professors in college wrote his thesis on the JFK
|assassination and the conspiracies surrounding it. He was convinced
|that someone in Kennedy’s circle, mostly Johnson, orchestrated it to
|get Johnson in office.
|u/_Nick_2711_ - 1 month
|
|Man, I really miss reading up on conspiracy theories as a kid. Did I
|think most of them were true? Nah, and I’d probably outright dismiss
|most of them now. However, it was a fun thing to think and speculate
|about, and there were a few theories that offered plausible solutions
|to mysteries with fairly well-researched arguments. Now it’s just a
|shitshow, and honestly quite scary. I know it’s a loud minority, but
|the lengths some people will go to in order to feel like they have
|some kind of important ‘insider’ knowledge is absolutely fucked.
|u/Tvix - 1 month
|
|... I'm pretty sure the history channel told me it was an ice bullet
|past midnight one night a decade+ ago.
|u/julictus - 1 month
|
|r/FuckImOld
|u/NovemberMatt63 - 1 month
|
|Read up on ~Ralph Leon Yates:~ [https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.h
|tml?docId=57741#relPageId=66](https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html
|?docId=57741#relPageId=66) Picked up a hitchhiker in Dallas (who he
|later identified as Oswald) who asked about how easy it would be to
|kill the president, if it could be done from the top of the building,
|etc. This is the Wednesday before the Friday of the assassination.
|The only problem is that Oswald was verifiably at work that day and
|time. Ralph Yates went to work after he dropped the hitch hiker off
|and told a co-worker, who verified she heard this story on Wednesday.
|u/johnn48 - 1 month
|
|>In 2012, ABC News reported that “Secret Service agents hired
|prostitutes while traveling in El Salvador, Panama, China and Romania
|years before the scandal involving President Obama’s trip to Colombia in
|April, according to a Homeland Security investigation being reported by
|ABC News. The Secret Service for its great responsibility has always
|had a reckless
|[reputation](https://www.forbes.com/sites/edwardsegal/2022/04/07/the-
|secret-service-faces-another-unfolding-crisis-situation-4-agents-are-
|placed-on-leave/). It seems like all the Organizations with Alpha
|individuals believe the rules don’t apply to them and they are above the
|rest of us. Like the High School Football player tropes used extensively
|in literature and movies, there’s a culture of hard partying that has to
|be lived up to.
|u/VirginiaLuthier - 1 month
|
|And NONE of the Secret Service agents who were in Dallas guarding JFK in
|the motorcade were interviewed by the Warren Commission. They were right
|there when it happened, but the commission didn't think that was
|important....
|u/TheGhastlyFisherman - 1 month
|
|The day Kennedy was assassinated was the same day the debut of the
|Daleks was recorded. Doctor Who episode 6, "The Survivors" , was
|recorded 22.11.1963 in Lime Grove Studio D, only an hour or 2 after the
|assassination.
|u/davybones - 1 month
|
|C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley died that day as well
|u/Lucky_Elephant_3037 - 1 month
|
|The CIA was really after everyone, huh?
|u/clarbri - 1 month
|
|"Today, we settled all family business."
|u/Furrowed_Brow710 - 1 month
|
|It was also the same day as the first LSD assisted death took place.
|It was Aldous Huxley.
|u/Karl_Marx_ - 1 month
|
|Do you have any interesting facts?
|u/CosmicBeez - 1 month
|
|Fellow whovian ❤️
|u/stevenmoreso - 1 month
|
|Which episode was filmed the day the moon landing was faked?
|u/sexaddic - 1 month
|
|Omg the moon landing was faked?!
|u/liquidose - 1 month
|
|They hired Stanely Kubrik to fake it but hes such a perfectionist
|the only way he'd do was on site
|u/LemeeAdam - 1 month
|
|The start of season 6 of new who was around that time.
|u/Shep9882 - 1 month
|
|There is a theory that one of his mechanics was called to hold a rifle
|in defense and accidentally shot Kennedy
|https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error?wprov=sfla1
|u/Professor_Plop - 1 month
|
|I was about to mention this! I didn’t know about the mechanic aspect,
|I thought it was just one of his normal security service members… but
|nonetheless, the fact they were all hammered til 5am the night before
|kind of makes this theory more believable. TLDR: they believe a
|member of JFK’s team accidentally shot Kennedy after the first shots
|rang out. This service member panicked, grabbed their gun, and made a
|huge, fatal mistake. I’m starting to believe this theory more than
|other conspiracy’s I’ve heard about ( second shooter on the grassy
|knoll…etc…), and if security detail DID accidentally do this, I could
|understand why they wanted to cover it up (Lee Harvey Oswald started
|the shooting, and the serviceman was just trying to do his job, but
|failed).
|u/gwaydms - 1 month
|
|>the grassy knoll This was the nickname that Texas Rangers
|(baseball) fans gave the berm between the left and right field seats
|at Rangers Ballpark (later Globe Life Park) in Arlington. As you can
|imagine, Rangers executives weren't exactly pleased by this name,
|and hastened to announce that the official name of the berm was
|Greene's Hill, named after a former mayor of Arlington.
|u/Jed_Bartlet1 - 1 month
|
|You mean the Grassy Knoll where David Freese walk off home run
|landed in game 6 of the 2011 World Series where Joe Buck
|reiterated his fathers famous “We will see you tomorrow night
|call” (I am assuming you are a Rangers fan so will be mortified by
|my reference)
|u/gwaydms - 1 month
|
|Shut your f'n mouth. /jk That day haunted us until last year.
|u/Toby_O_Notoby - 1 month
|
|It's also more believable than most of the other conspiracies
|because it a) wouldn't take much to pull off and b) has a clear
|motive. Instead of a vast network of the CIA and the Mob, this was
|just a few people dealing with Kennedy's body and realising what
|happened. Knowing that pointing the finger at Bob from the USSS
|would tarnish his life and probably get him killed they just say
|"Yeah, the guy in the book depository got him". Even if Oswald
|wasn't killed before his trial, there's still more than enough
|evidence to pin it on him. So why not blame the guy with intent over
|the guy who made a mistake?
|u/whatsfrank - 1 month
|
|Sticking the whole thing on Bob would have been far less
|complicated than a cover up.
|u/hotdiggitydopamine - 1 month
|
|Yeah but image was everything with the Cold War, can you imagine
|how bad it would’ve been for America’s image if they announced
|the president’s own secret service killed him? Perfectly good
|reason for the government to cover it up and pin it 100% on
|Oswald
|u/foomprekov - 1 month
|
|The cover up we're talking about here is asking a dozen people
|not to say anything who wouldn't say anything anyway, and
|destroying one document that hasn't been written yet.
|u/chinggisk - 1 month
|
|Yeah but Bob's a good guy, he just had a bad day. Ever had his
|chili? Delicious. Just don't hang around when he has loaded
|weapons at hand.
|u/tifumostdays - 1 month
|
|It's practically impossible that a shot intentionally hit Kennedy
|from one guy, then another shot killed him from a guy
|unintentionally shooting. It's ridiculous.
|u/Satire-V - 1 month
|
|Yeah that's wild I'm not jumping those leaps personally
|u/Das_Mime - 1 month
|
|It's always struck me as fundamentally bizarre that there are
|theories which posit that although Lee Harvey Oswald was definitely
|shooting at JFK, JFK's death by bullet can only be explained by
|there being another, simultaneous shooter.
|u/relative_iterator - 1 month
|
|There’s so many grand theories surrounding JFK but simple human
|incompetence is so damn believable.
|u/MethodDowntown3314 - 1 month
|
|I have always thought this theory made the most sense
|u/Gizogin - 1 month
|
|Okay, you know those "earwitness" accounts that led to all those
|"second shooter" conspiracy theories? How there were some reports of
|hearing a shot from the book repository, and some reports of hearing a
|shot from the grassy knoll? *Not a single person* reported hearing
|shots from two different locations. Everyone who reported hearing the
|shots said they all came from the same place; they just disagreed on
|*which* place. So there is no evidence whatsoever to support the idea
|that any shots came from a different place than the rest.
|u/KiwiThunda - 1 month
|
|Multiple people also smelled gunpowder down at street level, which
|you absolutely would not smell from that far away. Oswalt's first
|shot missed, second shot hit Kennedy's neck/spine, and 3rd shot came
|from USSS car directly behind to Kennedy's head by accident. I
|firmly believe a USSS fucked up big-time and the only coverup is
|USSS not wanting to be embarrassed. It would also give credence to
|Oswalt's protest he was a "patsy" ... To him he shot twice, then
|suddenly sees Kennedy's head explode when he didn't shoot.
|u/Dalmanza4 - 1 month
|
|I believe it was the M16, which was a newer model. Supposedly the
|cover up is the driver accelerated as he pulls the trigger knocking
|him back and the rifle shot up towards the back of JFK head. Always
|thought it was interesting
|u/ViolenceInDefense - 1 month
|
|The M16 would have been in the prototype/testing stages at the time.
|Secret service does not normally use full size rifles either.
|u/Dalmanza4 - 1 month
|
|I think you were right, I just double checked and I believe it was
|an AR-15
|u/ZombieNinjaPirates - 1 month
|
|I'm not sure "mechanic" is entirely accurate. He was a secret service
|agent who was primarily assigned to the motor pool. Washing, waxing...
|preparing the motorcade vehicles. That plus the M-16 being a brand
|new addition to their armory likely caused an accidental misfire.
|u/tifumostdays - 1 month
|
|And it's one of the stupidest fantasies on the whole topic. You have
|to believe that for all places for an errand shot to hit, it would be
|at all believable that it would unintentionally hit the head of the
|man who was just intentionally shot two seconds prior. That is
|dumber than dumb. I believe the author was sued for the book. Just
|dumber than dumb.
|u/markevens - 1 month
|
|I'm convinced this is right. Oswald's bullets were designed to
|penetrate, not fragment. Secret Service agents used bullets designed
|to fragment, so as not to over penetrate their target and hit
|bystanders. JFK's skull x-rays revealed lots of lead fragments.
|Exactly what you'd expect from secret service rounds, and you would
|not find if it was Oswald's full metal jacket rounds.
|u/Possible_Kitchen_851 - 1 month
|
|I wonder if there needs to be annual surprise drills practiced for such
|an occassion? That quarterly department trainings be held inbetween for
|all to get at least two drills in as well.
|u/meeks7 - 1 month
|
|Ok so how would they have stopped it if they were totally sober?
|u/godofhorizons - 1 month
|
|So SS has been full of undisciplined scumbags for decades huh
|u/coldblade2000 - 1 month
|
|As recent as Obama some dude with a knife managed to jump over the
|White House fence and walk in through the FRONT door, assault a guard,
|and managed to get into the East room before finally getting tackled
|and arrested.
|u/itshurleytime - 1 month
|
|Was that before or after they tried to cover up driving drunk while
|likely driving over THE suspicious package at an active scene
|before the bomb squad showed up?
|u/spider0804 - 1 month
|
|See it used to be they sucked at their job but they could shoot and
|holster a pistol. Now they can't even holster a pistol.
|u/DancesWithDave - 1 month
|
|They are so strict in who they will even interview it leaves them with
|not much to work with
|u/CorruptedFlame - 1 month
|
|...or the whole thing is completely made up lol. Like sure, the "irish
|central", suddenly unearthed a scandal from before you were born.
|u/getthedudesdanny - 1 month
|
|It's mentioned in the Warren Commission report, and I originally
|found it in *Zero Fail* by Carol Leonning, who received a Pulitzer
|Prize in 2014. Irish Central was the first link that I submitted
|that wasn't blocked because it had a paywall.
|u/guitarot - 1 month
|
|Great book. It exposes what a bunch of frat boy yahoos the
|organization has pretty much always been.
|u/Leonixster - 1 month
|
|No no, come on! You know that nothing *ever* happens on the
|internet! Please let them continue ruining their enjoyment of it
|with cynicism in peace without bringing up your facts, gosh 🙄
|~~Hopefully a very obvious /s~~
|u/Interesting-Plant684 - 1 month
|
|And the same frat boy culture goes on today at USSS. It is an agency in
|crisis. 
|u/Unlikely_Ad6219 - 1 month
|
|Cmon lads, one more round, what’s the worst that can happen ffs!
|u/ChampionshipOne2908 - 1 month
|
|Made no difference. JFKs advangemen made certain the motorcade route
|left him a sitting duck.
|u/ShutterBun - 1 month
|
|That’s literally the only way to get on the freeway from Main Street
|u/MazzIsNoMore - 1 month
|
|The entire thing was a bad idea. The President moving slowly through
|a crowded area with multiple great locations to take a shot from.
|u/ShutterBun - 1 month
|
|It wasn’t unusual at all for Kennedy to do. Hell, sometimes he
|STOOD UP inside the limo during parades!
|u/gwaydms - 1 month
|
|William McKinley said he didn't need protection either, and that
|the people would be disappointed if he didn't show up in Buffalo
|(he wasn't a great President, but he was a very likeable man).
|Lincoln, too, went to the theater because "they will be
|expecting me to go", even though he really didn't want to.
|u/Content_Geologist420 - 1 month
|
|Tbf to Lincoln. That was probley the 1st relaxful evening in
|public he ever got in his presidency. The whole state of
|Kentucky (his birth state) wanted him killed the moment he
|became president and he was killed only 5 days after the Civil
|War ended. The dude didn't even get a week to sit back and
|think about his accomplishments before he was killed.
|u/gwaydms - 1 month
|
|Which is probably why he didn't want to go to the theater.
|Also, he'd been having premonitions of his own death. When
|he left the White House, he told his friend "Good-bye"
|instead of "Good night", as he always did. Things that make
|you go hmmm...
|u/Content_Geologist420 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, he had constant dreams being killed or dieing. Also,
|I believe it was in 1863 he was traveling on horse at
|night to some cabin where he spent time at near DC. He
|was alone and it was the middle of the night when someone
|literally shot his hat off his head and him and his horse
|booked it to his cabin. That was the incident that kicked
|off his paranoia of being killed.
|u/RotallyRotRoobyRoo - 1 month
|
|The civil war wasn't officially over yet. Lee had
|surrendered, but the nation hadn't capitulated yet.
|u/walterpeck1 - 1 month
|
|Wasn't the whole convertible motorcade thing Kennedy's idea? I
|remember reading that when I was young but who knows if it was
|nonsense.
|u/SolomonBlack - 1 month
|
|If not that Jack surely did many other things. The basic act of
|politics is going around shaking hands and otherwise putting
|yourself out there. They're always doing shit that is anathema
|to personal security (like hosting a big rally everywhere they
|go) because they wouldn't have gotten where they were without
|it.
|u/cherm27 - 1 month
|
|Was it all night or did it end at 5am?
|u/Boredcougar - 1 month
|
|5am is when night ends and morning starts
|u/babydakis - 1 month
|
|Also, did it end at 5am, or was it a bender?
|u/Lonely-Problem7075 - 1 month
|
|5am is the morning. That’s all night.
|u/CapriorCorfu - 1 month
|
|Well documented, but not exactly all night. Most went back to the hotel
|around 2 or 3 am; but 1 or 2 stayed until 5 am. Their rules stated that
|they are not to be out late or drinking the night before they would be
|on duty (in the morning) protecting the President. They got in late, and
|the hotel had no restaurant open, so they went to the only place in Fort
|Worth that stayed open late, and it was a place that served some food,
|but was mainly a bar.
|u/bullybullybully - 1 month
|
|The theory that Marcus Parks puts forward at the end of the Last Podcast
|On The Left JFK series makes a lot of sense with the evidence we are
|aware of. It was basically (and I may be off on some bits), that yes
|Oswald shot him, but that the fatal head shot was actually the result of
|an accidental misfire by one of the secret service agents in their sub-
|optimal state. One of the reasons that this seems likely is that if I
|had to say which was more likely, a grand complex conspiracy or an on
|the job goof-em-up, I’m going goof every time. Also the apparent “cover
|up” would make sense because this sort of sloppy performance would make
|the US look really bad at a time when appearing strong and masterful was
|incredibly important. We have seen very recently how sloppy the SS can
|be, so it doesn’t seem like too big of a leap to me really.
|u/LuckyJay151 - 1 month
|
|There's a documentary, i can't remember the name, and a modern
|forensic investigator looks at the case. The agents were drunk the
|night before, except the driver. So that day the had the guy that
|usually drives hold the AR15 in the car behind the President. Oswald
|shot, the men stood up in the backseat of the car following, the cars
|increase speed, the agents standing up fall backwards, dueing this
|fall the agent holding the AR15 accidentally fires it and it hits JFK
|in the head. There is a clear photo of him holding the AR15 in the
|rear car, the bullet trajectory matches up, and this explains a lot of
|the second shooter stpries. Biggest thing, Oswald's bullet went
|through two people and a seat and was still recovered, the AR15 bullet
|fragmented in his head. Oswald could not have fired both of those type
|of rounds from his rifle
|u/Gizogin - 1 month
|
|The trajectory does *not* line up. The bullet that killed JFK was
|angled *down*. And about the "second shooter" conspiracy theories,
|that's based on conflicting reports of where people heard the shots
|coming from. Some people reported hearing shots from the direction
|of the book depository, some reported hearing them from the
|direction of the grassy knoll. *Not one person* reported hearing
|shots come from *multiple* directions. Every single person who
|reported hearing the shots said they came from the same place; they
|just disagreed on *which* place.
|u/Njquil - 1 month
|
|Funny that this thread popped up while I’m watching a documentary
|about this exact topic. You’re wrong, there are plenty of accounts
|saying the shots came from multiple directions, including a survey
|done by congress after the fact. About 5% of witnesses claimed to
|hear shots from multiple directions. I agree with what you’re
|saying though, the other 95% percent of witnesses did claim to
|only hear it from one area or another, but not both.
|u/markevens - 1 month
|
|The entire reason this theory came into being was that all the
|other "standards" theories did not have trajectories that lined
|up. It was the examining of the trajectories that pointed to
|George Hickey.
|u/guimontag - 1 month
|
|This is an idiotic take. Oswald a former marine, successfully shooting
|JFK in the head is way more likely than a SS agent having a ND that
|domes the pres
|u/superzipzop - 1 month
|
|…isn’t that literally just [the XKCD 911
|conspiracy](https://xkcd.com/690/) but for JFK? lol
|u/Dalmanza4 - 1 month
|
|Very cool to see LPOTL mentioned as that is where I first heard this
|in their JFK series
|u/Spooky-Sausage - 1 month
|
|TIL "**One author claims**" is "facts".
|u/RudeAd9698 - 1 month
|
|George Bush Sr was in Dallas working for the CIA that day. Years later
|when asked where he was when he heard about the Kennedy assassination he
|said “I don’t remember”. What are the odds of someone that age NOT
|remembering? Zero.
|u/ShinzoTheThird - 1 month
|
|the more i learn about the secret service, the more i think they should
|vet them better.
|u/XROOR - 1 month
|
|“Nuthin gunna happen guys *hic*…. Let’s get another round of gimlets for
|all the g-men in here!” *crowd goes wild and then need to update their
|resumés on 11/23/63*
|u/wutryougonnad0 - 1 month
|
|The dat after: "Man, my head is killing me! How you doing, prez?"
|u/Tom_Ludlow - 1 month
|
|Service Agents: *Man, we had massive headaches.* JFK: *BUT DID YOU
|DIE?!*
|u/Hash_Tagz - 1 month
|
|Having a massive headache right now.
|u/SlickWilly49 - 1 month
|
|Must suck so much being super hungover at work, then all of a sudden
|your boss gets shot in the face
|u/gza_liquidswords - 1 month
|
|I get that it was a chaotic time, but I don't believe that JFK, the guy
|that killed JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X were just shot by randomly
|motivated individuals.
|u/xX609s-hartXx - 1 month
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|Oswald doesn't seem too randomly motivated to me. It also seems highly
|likely that he tried to shoot American general Edwin Walker who was
|very vocal about his rightwing convictions but missed.
|u/CrazyCrazyCanuck - 1 month
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|>JF**K**, RF**K**, ML**K** Now I'm not saying the **KKK** did it,
|but...
|u/walterpeck1 - 1 month
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|Sometimes I feel like the weird one for thinking they were all random.
|I've never bought into the conspiracy theories.
|u/turbosexophonicdlite - 1 month
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|Probably because 95% of the theories have absolutely zero
|credibility whatsoever. And the last 5% are dubious at best.
|u/Falling_Doc - 1 month
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|Malcom X was killed by the Nation of Islam, and RFK was killed by a
|Palestine Terrorist, they werent random they were premeditated
|u/walterpeck1 - 1 month
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|I was referring to the verbiage I replied to about them being
|randomly motivated
|u/Falling_Doc - 1 month
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|oh sorry didnt noticed it, but you are right most people who
|peddle these theories dont even read what happened, I was
|shocked when i learned that Malcom was killed by NOI and RFK was
|killed for being too pro israel, but people will never mention
|these
|u/Falling_Doc - 1 month
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|Malcom X was killed by the nation of Islam RFK was killed by a pro
|palestine terrorist MLK was killed by a white supremacist and JFK
|was killed by a dude that used to live in the soviet union so yeah
|all of then had reason to kill their targets unless the CIA had the
|most diverse spy program ever having russians, WASP, Palestine and
|black people in it
|u/Reddit-Is-Brainrot - 1 month
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|The FBI did not play any role in carrying out the murders of malcolm X
|and MLK, but they allowed it to happen. In MLK’s case, the FBI had
|warned him about threats to his life up until they had a minor
|disagreement with MLK’s choice of words (i think it was when MLK
|publicly spoke bad about the FBI’s failure to catch KKK terrorists).
|After MLK offended the FBI, they stopped warning him of potential
|assassins. In Malcom’s case, he was killed by his own people, but the
|police knew he was going to be assassinated and did nothing to stop
|it. They had inside agents in the Nation of Islam and knew about the
|assassination plots, but they intentionally stoked the tensions of the
|inner power struggles of the nation of islam. Their goal was to play
|the black muslims against each other, and it worked. Malcolm X was
|seen as a dangerous threat to national security rather than as a civil
|rights leader, and law enforcement treated him accordingly. All this
|is to say that there is no grand conspiracy here. The government/state
|agencies were perhaps maliciously negligent, but they did not organize
|the assassinations.
|u/hotstepper77777 - 1 month
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|The Secret Service has always been a shitty agency.
|u/SayNoToStim - 1 month
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|Day one: not so great
|u/STEVE_FROM_EVE - 1 month
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|I’m not completely well versed in JFK’s administration, but wasn’t that
|just a Wednesday for them? /s
|u/BFBNF - 1 month
|
|"Well if someone's gonna shoot me from a window with a rifle nothings
|gonna stop them." -JFK on the day someone shot him from a window with
|a rifle and nothing stopped him
|u/remind_me_later2 - 1 month
|
|Same old, same old. The USA is run by the good 'ole "Country Club" boys.
|The boys in frat houses that grow up and stay the same, abusing
|~~running~~ the country and getting away with it. They all have each
|other's back.
|u/Ursa89 - 1 month
|
|"Man this is the worst hangover ever. It can't get any worse. I feel
|like my head's going to explode."
|u/BummyG - 1 month
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|While riding in the car with President Kennedy, Connally told President
|Kennedy, “Mr. President, you can’t say Dallas doesn’t love you,” which
|President Kennedy acknowledged by saying “No, you certainly can’t.”
|Within a few seconds, she heard the first of what she later concluded
|were three gunshots in quick succession.
|u/Bushmaster1988 - 1 month
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|Paid for by LBJ?
|u/skippyspk - 1 month
|
|There’s a non-trivial theory that while LHO did hit JFK with the first
|shot, one of the drunk ass yet also hungover secret service agents
|accidentally Caboosed JFK as he was drawing his weapon. Otherwise why
|was the Secret Service so defensive about JFK’s body and stole one of
|the bullets that was pulled from his brain?
|u/lappet - 1 month
|
|Wait is this what Obliterated is based on?
|u/dxhki15885bkof - 1 month
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|George Carlin also did a comedy set earlier that night that many of the
|agents went to.
|u/nerdwerds - 1 month
|
|This is the main piece of information that leads me to believe Kennedy
|was assassinated because of incompetence. There wasn't a coverup of a
|conspiracy, there was shielding of ineptitude.
|u/DirectionOverall9709 - 1 month
|
|Bill Hicks had a joke where new presidents are shown the assassination
|from a different, never before seen angle and then they ask what their
|orders are.
|u/prophet583 - 1 month
|
|Former CIA Director Allen Dulles masterminded the whole affair. He was
|so powerful that he had LBJ appoint him to the Warren Commision. The
|only Warren Commissioner to attend all the meetings. Never missed one.
|Made sure nothing tracked back to him or the CIA.
|u/NovemberMatt63 - 1 month
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|> Former CIA Director Allen Dulles Don't forget to mention who fired
|Allen Dulles...
|u/XavierSimmons - 1 month
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|They all had multiple shots from the bartender who was acting alone.
|u/xoxidein - 1 month
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|“One author claims…”
|u/getthedudesdanny - 1 month
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|It’s incredibly well documented, even being mentioned in the Warren
|report. Rowley was interviewed about it.
|u/PositiveGrass187 - 1 month
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|So Trump not the only one with a B team
|u/Danyboyblue - 1 month
|
|There is a theory that the person who actually shot him was a nervous
|secret service agent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_Error
|u/ThePrussianGrippe - 1 month
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|It’s also the dumbest of the theories put to print.
|u/MonsterkillWow - 1 month
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|I'm not a huge conspiracy theorist, but come on guys, it was obviously
|the CIA.
|u/basscubed - 1 month
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|Including the guy that accidentally shot him from the trailing car.
|u/Ilikewaterandjuice - 1 month
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|And they thought THEY had the worst headache
|u/Middle-Welder3931 - 1 month
|
|"We would have arrived days ahead, studied the route, checked all the
|buildings. Never would have allowed all those wide-open windows
|overlooking Dealy Plaza, never! We would have had our own snipers
|covering the area the minute a window went up! They would have been on
|the radio. We would have been watching the building, checking for
|baggage, coat under the arms... Never would have allowed a man to open
|an umbrella along the way! Never would have allowed the car to slow down
|to 11 miles an hour, much less take that unusual curve at Houston and
|Elm! You would have felt an army presence on the streets that day. But
|none of this happened. It was a violation of the most basic protection
|code we have, and it's an indication of a massive plot based in Dallas.
|...That's the real question isn't it: why? The how and the who is just
|scenery for the public. Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, The Mafia, keeps 'em
|guessing like some kind of parlor game, prevents 'em from asking the
|most important question: why? Why was Kennedy killed? Who benefited? Who
|has the power to cover it up? Who?"
|u/Wookard - 1 month
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|Who was the bartender that fateful night? Albert Einstein.
|u/voiceofreasonne - 1 month
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|Not true. No actual proof. “Author claimed” and not a trustworthy news
|site.
|u/aquoad - 1 month
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|have they always been such massive fuckups?
|u/slaying_mantis - 1 month
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|And they thought *they* had a massive headache
|u/huhmuhwhumpa - 1 month
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|Dallas isn’t safe for Catholics yet Oooooooahhh OAH oahhhh
|ooooooohhh
|u/Frequent-Mix-1432 - 1 month
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|And the elder bush was in Dallas.
|u/MVSmith69 - 1 month
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|Paid for by the CIA and the FBI...
|u/therealdilbert - 1 month
|
|imagine OSHA if president was a normal job, almost 10% of the US
|presidents have been assassinated
|u/Reditate - 1 month
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|Some things never change.
|u/Interesting_Cow5152 - 1 month
|
|Of course, the top comment is a drinking joke. Actually, the article is
|well researched and written. I thought I knew a lot about what happened
|in my hometown that day. This was... eye opening.
|u/floatingby493 - 1 month
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|This sounds like a Hunter S Thompson story lol
|u/drgreenthumbphd - 1 month
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|Or whatever else we choose to believe
|u/Astyanax1 - 1 month
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|I remember hearing something like this in Clint Eastwoods movie where he
|acts as a presidential bodyguard.  I wasn't sure if it was true or not
|u/donkeylipswhenshaven - 1 month
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|I can only assume they were at the Iron Cactus
|u/tvieno - 1 month
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|Whether they were hung over or not, that wouldn't have made much
|difference with Kennedy's assassination. At the time they weren't
|trained to look for snipers on the sixth floor. They didn't know about
|line-of-sight attacks.
|u/Burning_Flags - 1 month
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|Confirmed: liquor lobby behind the death
|u/Dragonswim - 1 month
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|I wonder what time traveler got them all drunk.
|u/NoCode01 - 1 month
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|I was hung over during 911
|u/timgoes2somalia - 1 month
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|Typical
|u/Possible_Resolution4 - 1 month
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|Gonna guess that the daily stuff is pretty boring.
|u/JaqenSexyJesusHgar - 1 month
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|Wouldn't/Shouldn't there be other agents covering for those "hungover"?
|u/Ozarkian_Tritip - 1 month
|
|Weird how the secret service has a long history of being fuck ups.
|Whether it be the 60s , the 10s, or today.
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