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Ukraine appears to have just launched its largest attack on Russia's
airbases as its invading forces push deeper into Kursk
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|u/earthforce_1 - 1 month
|
|I heard a joke supposedly going around in Kursk: Putin is at a loss
|with his armies getting stomped in Kursk, and in desperation he summons
|the ghost of Stalin: Stalin: Why have you summoned me? Putin: Help -
|the NAZIs have returned to Kursk and my armies are getting crushed!
|What can I do? Stalin: Do what I did in 1943. Send the best Ukrainian
|troops to Kursk and ask the US for weapons.
|u/BehindThyCamel - 1 month
|
|Genius
|u/tktkboom84 - 1 month
|
|Thanks for laugh.
|u/Forman420 - 1 month
|
|This is gold and needs to be shared far and wide!
|u/obeytheturtles - 1 month
|
|This is the fourth time I have seen this joke this week!
|u/Rachel_from_Jita - 1 month
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|This is *the* joke of the war. Which is a high bar to clear.
|u/vbrfgsxcvded - 1 month
|
|"It's a tough job, so quit Stalin and Putin the work."
|u/ou812_today - 1 month
|
|It’s a broadway show: “Putin on the Hits”
|u/captnzack - 1 month
|
|More like "Putin on the Fritz"
|u/rami_lpm - 1 month
|
|goodness gracious!
|u/Prysorra2 - 1 month
|
|Wow
|u/PiotrekDG - 1 month
|
|Ukrainians: We are already here! The US: sure, we can deliver some
|missiles to your ammo depots on a VERY short notice.
|u/OsmeOxys - 1 month
|
|Not many places you can still get a 30 minute or less guarantee!
|u/SleeperAgentM - 1 month
|
|It's 8AM and my wife is now mad because my chortle woke her up. And
|I'm not even mad at you.
|u/waterboyh2o30 - 1 month
|
|Put8n is so bad he makes Stalin look sane.
|u/Fieos - 1 month
|
|Can you imagine the morale of an army that is finally going on the
|offensive after the years of travesty they've seen?
|u/nigel_pow - 1 month
|
|I see the smiles on their faces in videos when they knock down Russian
|flags from some what appear to be government-related buildings. I
|think in some they put the Ukrainian flag up instead.
|u/zyzzogeton - 1 month
|
|Russia started an Annexation fight. Ukraine is just annexing Kursk.
|u/Havenkeld - 1 month
|
|Ukraine ending up having Russian territory as a bargaining chip
|would be amazing. I'm trying not to be overly optimistic but this
|is making my day for now, things were looking bleak for a bit with
|U.S. being completely idiotic(/corrupt) about delaying aid in
|particular.
|u/GabeSter - 1 month
|
|Literally be optimistic regardless. Russia has had the privilege
|of piling up most of their men in a relatively small section of
|eastern Ukraine and not have to worry about defending their
|border. The thing is, this shows Russia they can’t leave their
|borders empty any more. If they have to pull men to hold
|borders in defensive positions they can’t use meat grinder
|tactics as successfully since they’ve moved some of the man
|power away from those locations. This will give Ukraine a better
|outlook on those fronts or force Russia to draft more soldiers
|which Russia doesn’t want to do. Regardless if Ukraine holds
|the land or not it’s a win.
|u/Havenkeld - 1 month
|
|For sure this is a big battle won and that's a great point for
|how it will limit Russia substantially from now on, I just
|meant about the war overall which I don't take to be a sure
|thing. That said, as another response noted the U.S. election
|is looking better and better for a pro-Ukraine admin instead
|of the "America first" Russia-enabling bullshit, which is my
|bigger hope long term - it's not a guarantee but it'd be two
|major blows to Russia in a short time period.
|u/LeafsWinBeforeIDie - 1 month
|
|Today's "America First" is not enabling, its straight pro-
|russian, financed by russia. This isn't reagan's america
|first.
|u/Fronesis - 1 month
|
|The first America First was a literal Nazi propaganda
|operation. It's been a bad label for a while.
|u/firelock_ny - 1 month
|
|>The first America First was a literal Nazi propaganda
|operation. They were isolationists, too many people got
|their history confused and think they were the same
|thing as the German-American Bund. Yes, the Nazis
|tried to capitalize on the existence of America First,
|like they tried to capitalize on anything that might
|keep the US from allying with the UK. Remember when
|America First's most famous member, Charles Lindberg,
|was the honored guest of Nazi Germany and Hermann Goring
|himself took him on special tours? Lindberg was sent
|by the US Army Air Corps to get as much intel as
|possible on the state of German military aviation.
|u/MassholeLiberal56 - 1 month
|
|^this
|u/Kharietash - 1 month
|
|Эй, мы не спонсируем America First. Это неправда. Ты
|ничего не сможешь доказать.
|u/Ormusn2o - 1 month
|
|Might not be just that. Looking at the map, Kursk has one of the
|two good roads leading to Ukraine. If Kursk is taken, Ukraine
|can push a bit further to get into range of Voronezh, the M-4
|highway and the railroad, which is where almost all troops and
|equipment is being transported from Moscow. Ukraine does not
|actually have to take Voronezh, just get in range of the
|artillery, drones and thunder raids. There are also convenient
|bridges in Voronezh that can be taken down. Not even a need for
|negotiation, just cut off supply lines.
|u/scratchydaitchy - 1 month
|
|Once they've finished destabilizing Voronezh I hope they head
|south towards Rostov-On-Don. Completely cut off Russian troops
|in Eastern Ukraine, cut off supply lines and starve them out.
|I would imagine there are far fewer mines behind the Russian
|lines vs in front. Hopefully they can find a path to enter
|their defenses from the East and do some serious damage. NO
|SLEEP TILL MARIUPOL.
|u/Ormusn2o - 1 month
|
|I think Donbas is off limits. It is heavily industrialized
|area with no way to encircle any single city. Same thing
|happened in ww2, Donbas was never taken, the troops would
|just circle around entire Donbas area, no matter which side
|it was. I think a legit target after Kursk might be Belgorod
|or even Stary Oskol, as M-2 highway would be taken, and
|Russians are trying mostly to set up trenches to the north,
|and toward Voronezh, not to the south. This would also
|simplify the frontline and shorten it. And that wide belt of
|conquered territory would put some distance between
|Ukrainian cities and Russia, which would help in preventing
|airstrikes on the cities. But taking Rostov would be
|awesome.
|u/scratchydaitchy - 1 month
|
|Yes it will be exciting whatever their next targets are.
|One has to assume the brightest military strategists from
|USA and Europe are working closely with Ukraine to come up
|with the best plan. However to play devil's advocate
|about "I think Donbas is off limits" one could argue that
|Russia just successfully took it from the East vs a highly
|motivated Ukraine Army. (Granted they were working at it
|since 2014). One could therefore assume it's possible for
|Ukraine to do the same vs a highly unmotivated,
|demoralized and completely cut off (under supplied)
|Russian Army?
|u/Ormusn2o - 1 month
|
|Actually, history does like to repeat itself, and Donbas
|was never actually taken, even in this war. Russian
|supported militias took vast majority of Donbas in 2014,
|and while they were losing, they held out until Ukraine
|almost cut them off from supplies from Russia. Then few
|weeks later, Russia decided to move their own troops
|into the Donbass and secure the Ukrainian border, and
|the front was more or less in a stalemate till 2022,
|where Ukraine was attacked from almost all sides, and
|Ukraine lost a lot of the Donbas it was holding on, but
|it lost relatively little of that area compared to the
|south, Kharkiv area and north of Kyiv. This is why I
|think Donbas is off limits, even in this war, neither
|Russia or Ukraine was able to take it, it took militias
|in corrupt Ukrainian government to take it, and when war
|started, none of the sides were able to make much
|difference.
|u/scratchydaitchy - 1 month
|
|Yes we will see. I just hope at some point Ukraine
|can liberate Mariupol. Seeing how valiantly it fought
|and held out for so long it would be a great justice
|for Ukraine to take it back. Even if it's completely
|leveled and doesn't even have any buildings left
|standing it would be so uplifting for the Ukrainian
|soldiers and people.
|u/xelah1 - 1 month
|
|> as a bargaining chip Also makes it harder for Russia to argue
|for freezing the current front lines - or for a Russia-aligned
|western leader, whether of the orange variety or not, to argue
|for the same.
|u/zyzzogeton - 1 month
|
|We are really working hard to get rid of the Russian puppets
|like Trump and the Congressional grifters. Not as hard as
|Ukraine is, but war is just politics by a different means if
|Clausewicz has anything to say about it.
|u/Havenkeld - 1 month
|
|Yeah I applaud those who are coming around to seeing
|MAGA/republicans (the politicians/donors/think tanks/allied
|hate groups/etc.) as what they really are, and the people
|helping them do so of course. Hoping the democratic coalition
|uses the opportunity to bring them (voters who didn't realize
|how corrupt they really are) into the fold longer term via a
|gracious winner strategy. I'm chilling in an "anarchist
|jurisdiction" (Portland) so my vote probably doesn't make a
|difference in who wins but I'm still going to vote for Kamala
|and straight blue. Just having high pop vote numbers will be
|counter evidence to the inevitable claims that we're not a
|real majority and everything is rigged, etc.
|u/Havenkeld - 1 month
|
|I edited for that reason, to draw a distinction between
|low info voters who aren't really culpable and those
|actively involved. My grandmother is a registered
|republican and voted for Trump because her friend at the
|senior center thinks he's a strong leader, for example. I
|don't think she should be publicly humiliated, her assets
|seized, put in jail, etc. She's just incapable of
|understanding politics yet still inclined to participate.
|That's an extreme example maybe, and my gma is a lost
|cause, but there are low info voters who can change upon
|being given more info. But this is sometimes very hard
|because of the social and media environments they're
|immersed in, which habituates them to distrust anything
|going against a certain fiction they've been sold. I
|agree regards the reconstruction, actually.
|u/Alphabunsquad - 1 month
|
|There was former Russian official saying as a result of this
|Putin has turned over pretty much the entire government to the
|FSB by firing G by Gerasimov and replacing him with Dyumin. He
|was saying it destroys the balance in the Russian government
|Putin had built but it was his only option but now his days are
|numbered. People have been saying that for awhile though so I’ll
|just wait and see.
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|Seriously if theu can take Kursk...omfg that would be another
|level
|u/Dhiox - 1 month
|
|>Ukraine ending up having Russian territory as a bargaining chip
|would be amazing Doesn't even have to be consensual. Russia
|can't take Kursk back without pulling forces from Ukraine. So
|Russia could be forced to trade land without any formal
|agreement. Reminds me of the New Atlantis campaign from Age of
|Mythology hilariously. Ukraine decided there were too many
|Russians to fight in Ukraine, so they simply didn't fight them
|there and instead attacked their u defended homeland.
|u/donjulioanejo - 1 month
|
|Oh, that was just concerned local citizens changing flags and
|signs in support of the upcoming Kursk Oblast referendum to join
|Ukraine!
|u/James-the-greatest - 1 month
|
|Russia is just east Ukraine. 
|u/BryanG335 - 1 month
|
|I’ve loved reading their reviews of local restaurants in Kursk.
|u/rastafunion - 1 month
|
|Wait what? Please link, I need to see this!
|u/NotJoeJackson - 1 month
|
|I just started reading it right now: [https://www.reddit.com/r/u
|kraine/comments/1es8xqg/kursk\_offensive\_ukrainian\_soldiers\_l
|eft\_google/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1es8xqg/
|kursk_offensive_ukrainian_soldiers_left_google/) Here's one:
|""2/5 Toilet was OK, they refused to refuel my Abrams.""
|u/Teososta - 1 month
|
|Sounds a lot like Farcry.
|u/composedmason - 1 month
|
|I was thinking the same. I wonder if they turned off all alarms
|for stealth XP
|u/mechwarrior719 - 1 month
|
|Scipio Africanus whispers “reddite eis calcitrare in Carthagine” to
|Zelensky from the afterlife
|u/straight_lurkin - 1 month
|
|Also the first invading army SINCE WW2. Putin is a real fuck up lol
|that's why he's literally calling this an "unprovoked aggressive
|invasion". Still not convinced he isn't letting this happen to then
|say he has the right to bomb/nuke Ukraine
|u/VoidBlade459 - 1 month
|
|>he's literally calling this an "unprovoked aggressive invasion".
|Unprovoked? The fuck is he smoking? This counter-invasion is the
|literal opposite of unprovoked.
|u/Other-Divide-8683 - 1 month
|
|They re there to liberate Ukraine from the Nazis, remember?
|Authoritarians are always flabbergasted when you push back
|successfully and in a way that leaves them losing face, then
|seething with rage at your insolence. How dare you disrespect
|their authority over you like that?! And in front of everyone
|else???!!! Its absolutely mindblowing. Putin might as well be an
|abusive dad humiliating his kid in front of family when that kid
|suddenly starts heckling him and making him the butt of the joke.
|Its insane how much those toxic behavioral patterns scale,
|depending on the amount of ‘kids’/minions/ people you have power
|over they have.
|u/James-the-greatest - 1 month
|
|Bullies can never believe that anyone would treat them how they
|treat everyone else
|u/Feisty-Chemical8682 - 1 month
|
|Putin is your classic narcissist, textbook . Most people I’ve
|known with NPD are complete failures, Putin is, too, the
|difference is that he has power. Their strength is an
|illusion. You break through that illusion when you stand up to
|them, or laugh at them. Nothing crumples them like that. They
|could treat you in terrible ways, say the most horrible things
|for years on end, and then when you finally find the strength to
|stand up for yourself, their mouth turns agape, their eyes
|widen- “how could you say that to me? How could you treat me
|like that?” And the next part is engrained in every narcissist -
|deny, attack, and reverse the victim order. And now they are the
|victim of YOUR RUTHLESS ATTACK. Once you understand what they
|are, and they’re all the same, it’s comical. Just look at what
|happened when Wagner was marching toward Moscow - Putin and his
|gang of weaklings fled, went into hiding . They’re complete
|cowards, and now compare it with Zelenskyy , who famously turned
|down a ride out of Ukraine “I don’t need a ride, I need
|ammunition”. Putin has carefully and skillfully created a
|strongman image, but it’s all smoke and mirrors, a facade. The
|truth of the man, much like Russian doublespeak, is the
|opposite. People need to be taught these things in school from
|a young age, so women , and men can understand the signs of an
|abusive relationship before being trapped in one, and we, the
|people, can see an authoritarian punk coming and laugh at him
|before he’s able to grab any kind of power.
|u/airborngrmp - 1 month
|
|Whoa there: counter-special-military-operation.
|u/unfnknblvbl - 1 month
|
|*second You forgot that time that Russia (Wagner Group) invaded
|Russia last year...
|u/straight_lurkin - 1 month
|
|Lol didn't they make it to Moscow, call it off, then suddenly...
|the leader of Wagner died in a mysterious plane crash in a plane
|KNOWN for never crashing?
|u/Internal_Mail_5709 - 1 month
|
|Him and at least 9 other people. The amount of collateral damage
|Putin accepted to take him out is unforgivable.
|u/straight_lurkin - 1 month
|
|Russians are known for this kind of shit. Look back at WW2.
|There are many stories of them just throwing people into the
|meat grinding to slow down or stall an enemy and if you didn't
|comply you got shot. I remember one story in a podcast I
|listened to (ghosts of the ostfront by hardcore history) and
|an officer was in charge of over 400 soldiers. His orders were
|to take the ground PAST a river. The officer said the smart
|thing would be to hold their side of the river and force the
|Germans to push through the river and into them since they had
|no boats. His higher ups said "no we told you to take the
|ground after the river" leaving them no retreat. Well none of
|the soldiers could swim because they weren't native Russians
|and rarely saw large bodies of water. Literally all but 4 of
|them drown.... he radios command and tells them of their
|deaths, commander says "what happened?! We're you ambushed?!"
|He said "no, we had no boats and they couldn't swim" and his
|officer essentially says "well you followed orders and that's
|what's important". That's not even mentions the whole using
|prisoners to bum rush machine guns to eat bullets and then
|having their soldiers push when the Germans had to reload
|their guns. Absolutely wild shit lol they really don't give a
|single fuck there.
|u/leeloo_multipoo - 1 month
|
|That has always been their way in war, and there's a part of
|me that thinks that it genuinely may always be their way in
|war. Most of the rest of the world stopped using those
|kinds of tactics after WW1
|u/steeltowndude - 1 month
|
|At least in WWII the Russians were facing an existential
|threat. The Nazis would have exterminated the entire
|populace of Moscow, and who's to say they'd stop there? Now
|80 years later we see similar tactics used, with hundreds of
|thousands dead, all for... a little bit of land in Eastern
|Ukraine. Land that will be under constant threat and require
|a significant military presense to defend in the event that
|Russia manages to hold it. If we throw the intrinsic value
|of human life completely out the window (defenstration pun
|totally intended), a few hundred thousand dead is a shit ton
|of lost labor and economic output, and that's not even
|counting the shit load of money Russia has had to shell out
|to fund this war, nor the shit load of money it will require
|to replenish their arsenal. I think people generally die in
|war for no good reason whatsoever, but this seems especially
|pointless.
|u/obeytheturtles - 1 month
|
|> The Nazis would have exterminated the entire populace of
|Moscow More like enslaved. The Germans barely even
|managed to pacify Paris over the span of 4 years. The
|Nazis imagined themselves as the master race, and that the
|rest of Europe would become their vassals, working the
|land and the mines under the steady management, and for
|the benefit of the German people, who would then be free
|to pursue more noble efforts without the burdens of labor
|and strife. Obviously it was an existential crisis
|nonetheless, but the idea that the Germans were going to
|hunt down and exterminate all non Germans is probably not
|right.
|u/eksajlee - 1 month
|
|They always did wild shit and didn’t care about their own
|people life. Good example is „Order No. 270” which basically
|treats anyone that as a traitor if they remove their
|insignia or decline to fight. As as result they were fine to
|shoot soldiers (even commanders) on the spot if they didn’t
|obey. Also families of the soldiers could end up being
|arrested and stripped of any war benefits.
|u/not-a-spoon - 1 month
|
|Those other people were the high officer corps of Wagner
|though, including Dmitri Utkin, the actual original founder of
|Wagner and it's operational leader. Killing Dmitri Utkin is
|always forgivable.
|u/I_Ski_Freely - 1 month
|
|Lol, 9 people.. Uncle Joe Stalin would like a word with Putin
|about these rookie level numbers
|u/DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK - 1 month
|
|I don't know why this lie keeps getting passed around. He was
|killed in a tragic grenade juggling accident aboard his plane.
|u/spencerforhire81 - 1 month
|
|Crash was the propaganda line, but we’re pretty certain that
|plane was hit with a SAM.
|u/mediocrobot - 1 month
|
|Feels a bit silly to say a plane is known to never crash. Most
|planes that are flying have probably never crashed before.
|u/straight_lurkin - 1 month
|
|Well in 20 years only 2 have crashed and 1 was in a collision
|with another jet ... so yeah, it has a GREAT track record
|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_Legacy_600
|u/I-Am-Madness - 1 month
|
|The one that had the collision actually took out the larger
|Boeing jet it hit and managed to safely land afterwards. So
|only one has actually hit the ground unintentionally.
|u/Elias_Fakanami - 1 month
|
|>So only one has actually hit the ground unintentionally.
|I’m pretty sure that one was intentional.
|u/HodgeGodglin - 1 month
|
|You really can’t use context clues here to understand what
|they’re saying? “A plane model known for reliability” sound
|better to you chief?
|u/mediocrobot - 1 month
|
|Thanks for putting it in plane words for me
|u/tehfink - 1 month
|
|Props for having such a positive altitude about it.
|u/mediocrobot - 1 month
|
|Thanks, I actually really appreciate the observation.
|u/Fritzkreig - 1 month
|
|Way to elevate the conversation!
|u/Ill_Mousse_4240 - 1 month
|
|Like the Titanic - a ship that never sank
|u/say592 - 1 month
|
|They were just shy of Moscow. Families of Wagner leadership were
|threatened. We saw how poorly Russia defended their interior,
|but it also helped that Wagner was viewed quite favorably and
|the regular Russian military not so much.
|u/Gogs85 - 1 month
|
|If he nuked Ukraine, the rest of the world nukes Russia. The most
|they might be able to get away with is a small, tactical nuke. Also
|given the state of their armies, there’s a nonzero chance that their
|nukes are not well-maintained.
|u/kristamine14 - 1 month
|
|Use of any nuclear weapon is a red line - US has already stated
|that if it’s crossed all Russian forces/equipment in Ukraine, as
|well as the Black Sea Fleet will be taken off the playing field
|with prejudice. I’m inclined to believe them.
|u/Red_Royal - 1 month
|
|What black fleet is there left to be taken off 🤣
|u/Black_Moons - 1 month
|
|"Can't attack our black sea fleet if we already sunk it!
|Checkmate US!" - Russian general.
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|*admiral
|u/Black_Moons - 1 month
|
|they all sunk with the fleet.
|u/na-uh - 1 month
|
|They'll blow them up on the bottom of the Black Sea again,
|just to make a point.
|u/a_little_drunk - 1 month
|
|The Navy has a helluva lot of depth charges.
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|To be fair When we meet that promise the black sea fleet had
|significantly more ships.
|u/Initial_Cellist9240 - 1 month
|
|The US likely wouldn’t.  Responding to nukes by completely
|obliterating a nations military WITHOUT them is a massive
|power move. And the US fucking loves those. Remember, when
|the US retaliated against the various Iranian funded groups in
|Syria and Yemen for the attack that killed US troops… They
|did it from the middle of the US. Without touching the ground.
|Flying over multiple US airbases and carrier groups to do so.
|Literally just to say “we can”
|u/Fritzkreig - 1 month
|
|Letting Poland off the leash would likely be enough.
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|Oh Poland would be salivating
|u/Fritzkreig - 1 month
|
|Ummmm, would be? I once was on a bus through the
|Tatras in a national park there, on my way to Slovakia.
|In the pass there was a car slightly too in the way
|parked by a bitch to allow traffic to go both ways.
|There was a lot of talk on the bus, which I did not
|understand, but got the general idea. So I got up to
|join all these dudes..... and the waved me off.... While
|I watched like 7 Polish guys pick up a car and throw it
|in the ditch though a window on a bus, well I thought to
|myself "I hope this is the most emasculated I ever
|feel!" I mean I could have helped!
|u/Pulga_Atomica - 1 month
|
|Cry havoc and release the Poles of war.
|u/mrpenchant - 1 month
|
|>The US likely wouldn’t.  Agreed. >Responding to nukes by
|completely obliterating a nations military WITHOUT them is a
|massive power move. And the US fucking loves those. It's
|not about that in my opinion. It's about the fact that if
|the full force of the US military is doing something, only
|US commanders would have the understanding of how best to
|use all of their capabilities and forces. Even NATO always
|has the Supreme Allied Commander being a US military
|officer. Also to be clear, the consequences from my
|understanding aren't to completely obliterate their entire
|military, just their entire military in Ukraine. It would be
|an overwhelming defense of Ukraine that'd end the war but
|not be a reason for Russia to feel threatened and need to
|consider resorting to nuclear weapons against the US to
|defend itself.
|u/Initial_Cellist9240 - 1 month
|
|I’m not so sure about that, removing russias ability to
|project force could easily be deemed proportional and
|politically justifiable. Not the whole military of course,
|but an entire fleets boomer subs going poof at once might
|be sold as a solid newspaper to the nose for nuclear
|aggression.  Especially if coupled with a Biden style “we
|will respond as we see fit, at a time of our choosing in
|the coming weeks, we will NOT use nuclear force as nuclear
|aggression has no place in a civil society” speech
|u/Yorspider - 1 month
|
|Currently the US is capable of sinking every single sub,
|and destroying every single launch site Russia has
|within 9 minutes using strictly conventional weapons.
|They have been flying F35s over Moscow for the past 2
|years without detection. It's not even remotely fair at
|this point.
|u/Yorspider - 1 month
|
|If Russia used nukes in any capacity, including on their
|own soil, the US would PERMANENTLY end the Russian
|military as an institution. And it wouldn't take a month,
|it wouldn't take a week, it would take hours. The US has
|been flying F35s over Moscow without detection for the
|past 2 years. They are soooo ready to fuck shit up they
|are practically drooling.
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|I imagine we would launch an air assault unlike anything
|we've ever seen. I imagine we would literally have thousands
|of air frames involved. With tens of thousands of mentions.
|All precisely targeted and coordinated. I imagine first it'd
|be a sea wave of SEAD missiles to take out and destroy all
|remaining air defenses. This would be likely be followed up
|by long range cruise missile strikes on air defense sites.
|After this comes the missiles we fire from our aircraft...we
|will have many thousands of them. We will also have sleath
|bombers and b52s doing their things (they are basically
|cruise missile launching platforms) Russia will be get so
|hard so fucking fast they won't know wtf just happened.
|Ukriane will support their either their own Airforce. Also
|Ukraine will be ready to move in forces. I'm confident that
|the US Military has the capability of breaking the back of
|the Russiaj invasion and the Russian people will to fight in
|a matter of weeks without deploying any significant ground
|forces (we will need some folks on the ground for targeting)
|u/Initial_Cellist9240 - 1 month
|
|>(we will need some folks on the ground for targeting) So
|no ground forces at all, until it’s revealed 10yrs later
|u/monkeychasedweasel - 1 month
|
|We could just run sorties out of Incirlik and wipe out all of
|their offensive capability on the Black Sea, in
|Donetsk/Luhansk, and every Russian airbase within 500km of
|Ukraine.
|u/Master_Dogs - 1 month
|
|A former CIA director and 4 star general said: > “Just to
|give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato –
|a collective – effort that would take out every Russian
|conventional force that we can see and identify on the
|battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in
|the Black Sea.” Source:
|https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/us-russia-putin-
|ukraine-war-david-petraeus Of course Biden himself has kept
|it a bit less clear, due to US policies around nuclear
|ambiguity: https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/12/politics/joe-biden-
|nuclear-message-putin-cnntv-analysis/index.html Basically
|Biden (or any rational US President) will never say the quiet
|part out loud. But it's clear: we'd respond, and we'd respond
|with force. We wouldn't even need to use our nukes considering
|we have hundreds of not thousands of aircraft, ships and subs
|ready to respond with conventional weapons.
|u/Gwtheyrn - 1 month
|
|All of their subs and surface fleet and every Russian asset on
|foreign soil. Might even wipe out the entire airforce for
|shiggles.
|u/TheNetworkIsFrelled - 1 month
|
|The boomers are a wildcard, though. Failure to eliminate all
|of them offers significant potential downside.
|u/OrindaSarnia - 1 month
|
|NATO troops would not "take the field"...  the US would just
|bomb every airfield, every bunker, every ship, every mess hall,
|every last single soldier walking down a street...  in the
|entirety of Russia. Plus the Kremlin itself, and Putin's weird
|vacation home. Every power plant, every equipment stockpile,
|every ancient tank rusting in a field. If Russia used a nuke,
|we would obliterate their entire army, airforce and navy.  And
|Putin knows it.  Which is why he hasn't so much as used one of
|his "baby nukes" that they allegedly have, even though he
|previously said that Ukrainian troops entering Russian soil
|would be the type of situation that would "require" Russia to
|respond with nukes. It's all bluster, they will never use
|nukes, and you can go dig through my reddit history and see that
|I have been saying that since the week after Russia's full scale
|invasion...
|u/exus - 1 month
|
|I never want to see it happen but I assume this is the
|response. Every single piece of military equipment that can be
|hit gone. Basically, you crossed the line, you don't get to
|have a military anymore.
|u/Yorspider - 1 month
|
|You imagine big, but it's not even close. The entire reason
|the US has pushed so hard on stealth aircraft is to give them
|the capability to wipe out every single potential missile
|launch point Russia has at any time. The 9 minute window has
|been the standard since 2016, and they have been actively
|trying to push it to just 6 minutes. That is how long it would
|take the US to destroy every single Russian Sub, and every
|single ICBM Russia has if even the slightest hint of their use
|is indicated.
|u/OrindaSarnia - 1 month
|
|I agree that what you outline is what would actually happen.
|I was responding to someone who suggested Russia would
|actually manage to *use* a nuclear weapon. I agree that if
|there was even the hint that they might, all their missile
|capacity would be immediately taken out. I don't think they
|will/would even try, none the less manage it. And the
|reason is because we have the capacity to do what you
|outlined, and then if we were pissed about it we could also
|chose yo then continue on with what I outlined.
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|Shit...you don't think Polish troops would love to get a taste
|of fighting Russians. Get Polish ground forces in. Let them
|get some real world experience...with American air cover
|u/OrindaSarnia - 1 month
|
|I'm sure there are plenty of Polish troops who would relish
|that. I'm just saying they wouldn't get the chance because
|there would only be like 26 Russian soldier left in the
|whole world within 12 hours of a Russian nuke going off. I
|can't even decide is 26 is hyperbolic or not...  I mean I
|know it is, because there are enough Russian soldiers within
|close range of Ukrainian positions that it might take
|slightly longer than 12 hours to coordinate their withdrawn
|to safety to completely smite the Russians nearby, while not
|risking Ukrainian lives...  might take all of 24 hours.
|u/bulldg4life - 1 month
|
|Theres got to be a few thousand Russian soldiers in other
|countries that I don’t think the us would destroy - like
|Syria, Belarus, Armenia. But, I would assume the tens of
|thousands in and around Ukraine, a large amount in and
|around Moscow, and maybe some near Georgia would go bye
|bye
|u/BusBoyMacca - 1 month
|
|....indeed you are spot on. Ukraine has esentially invaded The
|Russian Federation....yet where is the tactical nuclear
|response? There isn't one and there won't be one. Putin is too
|afraid to even raise the stakes and call this a war....his
|country has been invaded!!!! .....so he ain't doing jack shit
|with nuclear weapons.
|u/John3Fingers - 1 month
|
|Even a small tactical nuke would lead to an immediate and decisive
|conventional response from the US at least, eradicating the
|Russians inside Ukraine (including Crimea).
|u/InterestingHome693 - 1 month
|
|China wouldnimvade Russia as well
|u/TheNetworkIsFrelled - 1 month
|
|Yeah, Mongolia would switch allegiances from Russia to China
|without much choice. And Siberia is a resource that china
|would love to have.
|u/EdwardOfGreene - 1 month
|
|The US won't give details publicly (for obvious reasons), but Sec.
|Blinken has publicly stated that retaliatory strikes against
|Russia are in place in the event that a nuke is used. He has also
|stated that this was communicated clearly to Russia. Russia knows
|that they will deal with some serious shit if even a small
|tactical nuke is used. My biggest fear is that Putin gets to the
|point he knows he is doomed, possibly suicidal, and doesn't care.
|u/Lylac_Krazy - 1 month
|
|I assume the people around him will care.
|u/Ill-Common4822 - 1 month
|
|Imagine invading another country only to be invaded yourself. I
|have little hope this will sway the average Russian. Putin is like
|the Trump of Russia except he is a successful dictator. Therefore he
|has greater popularity since all the news is fox news.
|u/itechmeyou - 1 month
|
|I believe the USA has said if Putin uses nukes against Ukraine, then
|they’ll intervene with American military power.
|u/_Chaos_Star_ - 1 month
|
|Unprovowhatnow?
|u/Prestigious_Yak8551 - 1 month
|
|Pure elation. They deserve it too.
|u/xplos1v - 1 month
|
|It’s high, but don’t forget the troops holding down the trenches
|u/colefly - 1 month
|
|True But those holding Hrodivka are likely feeling less like they
|are in a desperate stand, and more like they are distracting the
|bull while their buddies sneak behind
|u/reelznfeelz - 1 month
|
|Isn’t it pretty much like the Ardennes in a lot of places? Meaning
|they’re pinned down with constant artillery hitting them and
|insufficient supplies? So crazy all that is going on, day in and
|day out, for 2 years now, while I just sit around on my ass and eat
|cookies. We gotta get Putin out of there. Ukraine doesn’t
|deserve this bullshit.
|u/betterwithsambal - 1 month
|
|To be honest I think it's better you stay home then try to go over
|there to eat your cookies.
|u/anos7899 - 1 month
|
|Trench ballast
|u/Macky93 - 1 month
|
|It reminds me of the absolute slam dunk offensive Ukraine launched in
|Kharkiv Oblast in September 2022. I remember being at work and every
|time I checked, another village had been liberated or another small
|pocket of Russians had been surrounded
|u/pastpartinipple - 1 month
|
|I don't think travesty means what you think it means.
|u/carson0311 - 1 month
|
|See how things have changed, my friend? Now it is their land… Their
|people… Their blood!
|u/Conch-Republic - 1 month
|
|It's still probably not great. They're sending the best of the best in
|there, and those guys have to be absolutely *tired* of this shit.
|Tired in general.
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|Oh man they know a big fight is coming, but boy they must be full of
|pride. Literally taking the bear itself on in their own territory
|u/LargeCountry - 1 month
|
|I have no idea why this never crossed my mind! we are actually about
|to witness a steamrol... towards peace.. hopefully... Russia can just
|go home, the world doesn't care about their propaganda.... htier own
|citizens cant think for themselves at all..... they can't even
|complain about a single thing... Best of luck Ukraine..... We got
|your back.
|u/whiterice_343 - 1 month
|
|It would seem that the sacrifices of holding the line for two years by
|those brave soldiers bought enough time for the Ukrainian leadership to
|plan a successful breakthrough. What a wild turn of events.
|u/CalRipkenForCommish - 1 month
|
|Not just a breakthrough - it’s possible they were given intelligence
|information as to where precisely to strike, and when. That is
|possibly what Putin is wrestling with now. Traitors infesting his
|troops.
|u/baz8771 - 1 month
|
|Ukraine is also likely getting intelligence directly from nato
|states. Russia poked the bear
|u/BEZthePEZ - 1 month
|
|Very true, but I do think if it’s as big as it’s seeming that
|there may be knives out so to speak for Putin
|u/EmbarrassedCockRing - 1 month
|
|Oh the knives are definitely out. The oligarchs aren't making
|nearly as much money as they would be without this stupid war.
|Putin's time is limited. *Very* limited.
|u/najing_ftw - 1 month
|
|Unfortunately, I heard that before and nothing happens
|u/colefly - 1 month
|
|Knives out doesn't always mean it's the King who dies
|Sometimes it's more dead oligarchs, generals, deputies, and
|ministers Wagner's March and the early war culling of
|Gazprom execs were other knives out moments Stalin assumed
|they were always coming for him and never put away is knife
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|> Stalin assumed they were always coming for him He
|probably wasn't wrong
|u/135467853 - 1 month
|
|It’s often a self-fulfilling prophecy. The more paranoid
|and violent he became, the more people wanted to get rid
|of him.
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|Oh I am 100% sure there was some self-fulfilling
|prophecy stuff about it
|u/sluttytinkerbells - 1 month
|
|Nothing happens? Russia held off a coup attemot last year
|and this year they're getting invaded. Shit is happening
|and the people around him will turn on him.
|u/ketoske - 1 month
|
|Yeah i hope at least some guys start falling from windows or
|something
|u/supercooper3000 - 1 month
|
|I hope Ukraine wins soon so I can stop reading this old
|tired joke.
|u/tallandlankyagain - 1 month
|
|They do. Frequently.
|u/PartyClock - 1 month
|
|People tend to forget that Putin is literally the most
|powerful Oligarch there is in Russia. He isn't beholden to the
|others, they are beholden to him
|u/CappyRicks - 1 month
|
|Right, I don't think many people are forgetting that though.
|What do power hungry "leaders" do when other "leaders" get
|in the way of their ambition? Historically, I think they
|take what they want how ever they think they can.
|u/bigb-2702 - 1 month
|
|Just hope they didn't bite off more than they can chew.
|u/finnishinsider - 1 month
|
|I read that in Crypt Keeper's voice
|u/phuck-you-reddit - 1 month
|
|Gawd imagine the stories Tales from the Crypt could come up
|with given the insanity of the world today. We've been
|living in a twisted episode for years now. Just wish we had
|the Crypt Keeper cracking jokes and making eye-rolling puns
|as I read the news headlines get published.
|u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl - 1 month
|
|The guy who did the crypt keeper’s voice is on cameo iirc,
|you can get him to say stuff as the crypt keeper.
|u/bigb-2702 - 1 month
|
|LOL. I loved that show back in the day.
|u/zyzzogeton - 1 month
|
|[That train doesn't make stops nearly as often
|anymore.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StAYxNWmeUU)
|u/Steven2k7 - 1 month
|
|I'm pretty sure there's been NATO surveillance/radar planes flying
|around the NATO boarders since it started.
|u/HumunculiTzu - 1 month
|
|Also satellites. NATO satellites have without a doubt been
|constantly staring at the whole area if they don't normally.
|u/JyveAFK - 1 month
|
|"3 trucks coming from the north, the driver is Vlad and had 2
|eggs for breakfast. "
|u/JohnQPublicc - 1 month
|
|You’d have to think the riots they flamed in UK, the shenanigans
|in Paris, and I’m fuzzy on Germany but I remember something in the
|headlines recently in addition to shutting down a Hezbollah
|infiltrated Mosque. Bet your spot on to something.
|u/auApex - 1 month
|
|Russia tried to assassinate the CEO of a German arms company for
|working with Ukraine.
|u/Dhiox - 1 month
|
|How was that expected to change anything for them? This isn't
|an autocracy, when leaders die in democratic nations, they get
|quickly and peacefully replaced, whether it's the private
|sector or public.
|u/Suspicious_Writer - 1 month
|
|Yes. Literally. No joking here. Projective thinking is
|quite strong for russians. When you tell them arguments
|like the OP said they go "yeah, sure" Which is also why
|it's hard for them to believe that life can be good and
|not only be about "survival mode". They indeed really feel
|it 'fake' for this reason and it's hard for them to
|integrate that Which is why russia attacked Ukraine. As
|leaving Ukraine to develop would show russians that
|"slavic people" also can live a good life and they would
|start asking unnecessary questions. Now that I wrote that
|this looks to me like a PTSD trauma on generational level
|u/IDontCondoneViolence - 1 month
|
|The idea is intimidation and sending a message. The person
|who replaces the assassinated CEO wouldn't also want to be
|assassinated, and so would capitulate to Russian demands.
|u/obeytheturtles - 1 month
|
|Germans, in particular, don't go into engineering to be
|engineers, they go into engineering to become managers.
|There's probably a hundred different people at Rheinmetal
|with the qualifications and experience to be CEO.
|u/fizzlefist - 1 month
|
|Not just any arms company. Rheinmetal is one of NATO’s biggest
|arms maker.
|u/itsjamian - 1 month
|
|Didn't a factory in Berlin go up in flames?
|u/ghosttrainhobo - 1 month
|
|Oh, they have been since before the war restarted.
|u/GrinningPariah - 1 month
|
|Frankly I think the Ukraine war is an exercise in how much NATO
|can possibly help a country without explicitly joining the war.
|Boots on the ground, no. Jets over contested airspace, no.
|*Literally anything else?* Let's talk.
|u/Trollensky17 - 1 month
|
|Since day 1 100%
|u/Anubistheguardian - 1 month
|
|Pretty sure there are NATO AWACS flying over Poland 24/7 lol
|u/TehRaptorJebus - 1 month
|
|Given how disorganized the Russian army seems and with the sheer
|amount of intelligence assets available to NATO, I’d imagine
|there’s probably some areas where NATO has more accurate(or at
|least more up to date) intel on the Russian forces than Russia
|does.
|u/pagerussell - 1 month
|
|They've been getting that from the start. You think the American
|military is going to miss an opportunity to basically play a live
|war game against one of our main rivals? Absolutely not. Military
|intelligence has been in there helping - and gathering information
|and learning - from the absolute get go. It's not every day you
|get to learn the lessons of the next war without even needing to
|fight.
|u/SonOfMcGee - 1 month
|
|Also keep in mind that NATO can see into all of both Ukraine and
|Russia *from space*.
|u/fireintolight - 1 month
|
|so can russia and china, just saying
|u/Former_Yesterday2680 - 1 month
|
|They cannot, the gap between Russia and the US is larger than
|the gap between Russia and Somalia. Russia has about 75
|satellites a good amount if not most are from the 60-70s.
|America has about 3,400... As in all things it's the logistics
|that America really shines in too, things like processing the
|images to identify targets. Russia focuses on the equipment
|side of things and they are beaten by commercial options
|available to me or you. They can't process the images quickly or
|accurately, or spread info fast enough. The US measures it's
|killing chain in minutes. Russia measures theirs in days.
|u/pseudopad - 1 month
|
|The difference in resolution is likely quite substantial. Where
|Russia might see that "a vehicle" is moving somewhere, a NATO
|satellite might be able to let you discern exactly what kind of
|a vehicle it is. Is that a truck or a bus? Is that a coupe or a
|SUV? Stuff like that matters when you want to track where
|stuff's going. It'll also be way easier to tell whether a
|specific vehicle is the same vehicle that you lost track of a
|few minutes earlier, if, say, it went into a tunnel alongside
|many other vehicles. European commercial satellite imagery
|offerings are likely better than the military satellites of
|Russia. And US military satellites are (if that image Trump
|leaked years ago is any indication) at least 2-3 times better
|resolution than our commercial satellites.
|u/obeytheturtles - 1 month
|
|That is actually not clear at all. There's is actually quite a
|bit of evidence that Russia is unable to track weapons shipments
|entering Ukraine.
|u/devilishycleverchap - 1 month
|
|And now potentially saboteurs in the refugees
|u/Big-Compote-5483 - 1 month
|
|There are reports that the Chechen troops in that area of Kursk were
|so shitty to the civilian population and the conscripted Russian
|soldiers that they gave up Chechen positions to the Ukrainians who
|talked to them, allowing them to accurately hit the Chechen
|positions. There's at least one case of a surrendered conscripted
|soldier asking to join the ranks of the Free Russia Legion to fight
|against Putin. I hope to see more of this and more Russian
|territory going to the UA; it seems to be their best shot of ending
|the war and getting their territory back
|u/Frequent_Thanks583 - 1 month
|
|Imagine the snowball effect. One can only get so hard so much.
|u/Deaftrav - 1 month
|
|When is dead on. There was an intelligence report about Russia
|running out of ball bearings for their trains. When that got
|leaked... The next day Ukraine hits Russia... Hard. It'll take a
|month to move a sizable number of troops to stop Ukraine because
|they have no ability to move them except by foot. Vehicles get taken
|out.
|u/Hallonbat - 1 month
|
|Russia isn't running out of ball bearings, they're running out of
|*GOOD* ball bearings. They still have access to bearings via
|China, but they are sub-par compared to those that come from the
|West, which leads to more wear and tear, shortening the life on
|their trains which their logistics are so dependent on.
|u/Wojtek_the_bear - 1 month
|
|after seeing [this
|video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCo6AkB_s0M), i doubt
|that bad quality ball bearings would stop trains from working.
|maybe increase their service overhead, death by 1000 cuts style,
|but not a complete failure of the rail network.
|u/derpityhurr - 1 month
|
|Those bumps are caused by uneven tracks, not by the ball
|bearings. If you have bad/broken bearings in a train, that
|train is not moving *anywhere*.
|u/Lostinthestarscape - 1 month
|
|It's interesting to look at a map too and see, not much in the way
|of roads to get around outside of cities in Kursk. One main
|highway any which way. Not that responding forces have to stick to
|roads necessarily (though maybe they do some places due to the
|terrain), but will definitely slow them down. Goes both ways but
|Ukraine has the initiative.
|u/vand3lay1ndustries - 1 month
|
|I really hope I live long enough to see a film made about this
|story. 
|u/brainhack3r - 1 month
|
|Agreed. I think the other problem is that no one cares about Russia
|like they do about Ukraine. The people in Belgorod just seem to
|be ignoring the Ukrainians and walking away without putting up any
|fight. They don't care about Russia like you and I care about our
|countries. To them they're just stuck living there.
|u/Realistic-Minute5016 - 1 month
|
|Putin put the FSB, not the army in charge of the operation to repel
|Ukraine. I think that speaks volumes about what Putin’s true
|concerns are. He seems much more worried about this becoming a full
|blown panic and domestic threats to his rule taking advantage of
|that panic than he is about the military situation on the ground. 
|u/baronas15 - 1 month
|
|That border was secured by hopes and dreams that nobody would cross
|the red line. Ukraine knew the situation in there for sure
|u/newaccount - 1 month
|
|Possible? Remember when Russia’s invasion plans were published in
|newspapers a week before they planned to invade? In 50 years, when
|they are declassified, the documents relating to this is going to
|show Biden as one of the great presidents 
|u/DanoGuy - 1 month
|
|Might not be treason. Remember, the US has a great big eyeball
|looking down on the scene.
|u/stiffgerman - 1 month
|
|More likely, Ukraine's brain trust sat around after last summer's
|stunted offensive and asked the question, "We can do maneuver warfare
|if there's open ground. Where is there open ground?" As you can see,
|this appears to be unfolding according to some milestones. If
|Ukraine's original thrust had been blunted early they would've
|hunkered down and sent forces back to reinforce defense in the eastern
|sectors. Since they've found Russia is soft, they're pouring in what I
|think are more scheduled units. Note how they're going west as well as
|north. EDIT: Also note that there's likely some "outside" strategists
|informing Ukraine's tactics. At the least, Crayon Eaters of a certain
|rank always look at political lines on a map as waypoints to mark
|during transit, not inviolate walls.
|u/Bonesnapcall - 1 month
|
|>Note how they're going west as well as north. My first instinct
|was the entire point was to get Russia's infantry moving again.
|Moving infantry can be spotted and targeted. If Russia doesn't
|respond fast enough, the Ukrainians have the potential to cut
|off/surround huge portions of the border garrison troops that will
|be forced to surrender without food supplies.
|u/Lostinthestarscape - 1 month
|
|One massive side benefit is there are several hundred thousand
|displaced Russians fleeing the area and no border control since
|Ukraine is across it. Perfect opportunity to send a ton of special
|forces/drone operators deep into Russia.
|u/OfficeSalamander - 1 month
|
|Yeah, couldn't they send SF or drones to take out important
|infrastructure? Feels like this could be a thing
|u/Thumperfootbig - 1 month
|
|We should assume the biggest strategy brains nato can muster up have
|been working on this plan for a long time. Which isn’t to take
|anything away from the Ukrainians doing the work too… but DOD has
|satellite intel of everything…so of course they’re feeding it all
|into the planning process.
|u/UltraCarnivore - 1 month
|
|> long time > this plan The biggest strategy brains have been
|thinking about it since the 40s or 50s, I bet.
|u/Bromance_Rayder - 1 month
|
|I feel like most of the word doesn't really appreciate how mind
|bogglingly crazy it is that Russia has been *invaded* by another
|country in 2024. Not to mention the scale, rapidity and success
|of said invasion. It's bonkers.
|u/Historical-Crew3490 - 1 month
|
|Russia has been complaining that they're on the brink of being
|invaded by NATO, the West, the Goonies, etc. for decades. Now,
|it happened. It's beautiful that Russia is being invaded by
|the most recent country they've invaded and illegally annexed.
|Too bad Georgia was so annihilated that they can't join the
|fun. The Georgians were fierce, but too badly outnumbered and
|has no international aid
|u/ReallyNowFellas - 1 month
|
|The only silver lining of this war is the schadenfreude of
|knowing it's 100% on Putin, he'll probably be deposed, and
|he'll NEVER get the historical glory he wanted when he
|started this sadistic adventure
|u/Thumperfootbig - 1 month
|
|And the Polish are watching the incursion into Russia like it’s
|the start of a race to Moscow.
|u/theTexans - 1 month
|
|In Russia, the amazing race comes to you. Would love to see
|a few countries race to Moscow.
|u/colefly - 1 month
|
|Favorite polish joke A reporter once asked if the US could
|take Moscow in a war The General responded " No, a total
|impossibility" Reporter: "Are the Russians that powerful?
|General:"wha.? OH! No no. Not that. Theres just no way we
|could get to Moscow before the poles raze the place"
|u/theTexans - 1 month
|
|My favorite polish joke A reporter once asks a pole what
|his three wishes would be if they found a genie. The
|pole: for the Mongolians to invade us 3 times. Reporter:
|are you sure, why?? Pole: because they would have to
|cross Russia 6 times in the process.
|u/basketma12 - 1 month
|
|Yah someone I know just doesn't get it when I say F the
|Russians. I'm an American of 4 eastern European nations
|who have had up close and personal knowledge of Russians.
|Polish would be one of these countries
|u/fgtrtd007 - 1 month
|
|Patton was right!
|u/manyhippofarts - 1 month
|
|Ya damn skippy he was!
|u/UltraCarnivore - 1 month
|
|Vladivostok. The start of a race to Vladivostok.
|u/kan109 - 1 month
|
|I've been there! There's a fucking traffic circle in the
|harbor...
|u/chig____bungus - 1 month
|
|This is essentially the Reagan-era cold war gone hot scenario
|and the Republicans are on Russia's side
|u/terrendos - 1 month
|
|This is basically the whole point of why the Iron Curtain and
|Warsaw Pact existed in the first place. The borders between
|Ukraine and Russia have no natural barriers, it's just wide open
|fields. The USSR wanted to have a border with its opponents that
|was small enough to be easily defensive, with natural barriers
|like mountain ranges and such to limit the possibility of
|getting outflanked. Turns out that's East Germany.
|u/SnooHesitations1020 - 1 month
|
|I doubt it. Ukraine has a way of doing things their own way. Sure,
|the Intel from Western forces is extremely valuable, but Op-Sec in
|this theater pretty much demands they hatch and deploy very much
|according to their own plans. In summary, I would venture that
|this imitative is 100% Ukraine .
|u/kaptainkeel - 1 month
|
|It's why they quickly fell back to their own tactics after the
|counteroffensive toward Robotyne and Tokmak didn't work out.
|Maneuver warfare--or really, any warfare--is utterly useless
|when everything is mined to shit. When you have 10+ mines per
|square meter, you can't do anything. It's going to be a slow,
|bloody slog no matter what you do or what vehicles you have. I
|still remember that video where a IFV (or transport? not sure)
|rolled up to some wounded who had stepped on some mines. The
|medic stepped off of the vehicle, and his second step he hit a
|mine. Training kicked in and he had a tourniquet on his leg
|within like 3 seconds (he survived), but even so - shows the
|points that you can do nothing against areas that have countless
|numbers of mines. Edit: [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/SomeOfYo
|uMayDie/comments/14jovsa/ukrainian_soldier_steps_on_a_mine_and_l
|oses_his/?share_id=5rS1UOx-gGqlDGLmvVCYA) is the video,
|obviously NSFW/NSFL. NATO doctrine is maneuvering quickly -
|this can't be done with everything mined to shit, especially
|large vehicles that set off both personnel mines and AT mines,
|along with being large targets to ATGM, drones, etc. Switching
|more to smaller unit assaults means fewer losses if things do go
|wrong, along with being a lot easier to move around in a mine-
|infested area (personnel won't set off the AT mines at least).
|But now that they are in an area where they don't have to worry
|about everything being mined? That's where the fast maneuver
|warfare shines.
|u/Western-Ship-5678 - 1 month
|
|> NATO doctrine is maneuvering quickly - this can't be done
|with everything mined to shit NATO surely have a strategy
|that deals with extensive minefields?
|u/Kerostasis - 1 month
|
|Technically yes, but it can be summed up as "airplanes don't
|trigger minefields".
|u/Icarus_Toast - 1 month
|
|Kind of. Minefields are only really effective as a trap
|that's backed up by artillery to clean up whoever gets
|bogged down there. If an offensive has air superiority
|it means that the artillery behind the line can be cleaned
|up and a more methodical mine clearing operation can
|happen.
|u/musashisamurai - 1 month
|
|There's a common misconception that NATO doctrines and
|tactics rely on air power. While NATO planners can
|probably feel confident knowing they will have air
|superiority-ever since this war began-in a hypothetical
|conflict, that's not the default stance for how they train
|or war game. It's not uncommon to war game or drill as
|though you don't have access to any air support (which
|also helps them identify strategies that may be used by
|adversaries) and to maintain other skills. One of those
|being combat engineering. In the trenches of Ukraine, one
|blunder from NATO nations was not supplying enough combat
|engineering units. Look at what was deployed in Desert
|Storm to break through the Iraqi defenses during the
|ground invasion, and what was given to Ukraine.
|u/zzlab - 1 month
|
|Engineering units can't do anything if they are not
|covered in the air. Iraq could not bombard NATO forces
|like russia can Ukrainian. NATO reliance on air power is
|not a misconception.
|u/Kerostasis - 1 month
|
|Even if NATO can’t assume they will have air domination
|in every engagement, the presence of that option on a
|strategic level changes how the enemy plans their
|operations. Minefields aren’t as useful vs that strategy
|to begin with, so there’s normally no reason for an
|enemy to deploy mines on the scale seen in Ukraine.
|This is a scale where the enemy’s minefields are so
|extensive they will hinder their own operations, and the
|ground secured by this method will be dangerous to
|civilians for generations. It’s worth it in Ukraine
|(assuming you don’t care about post-war civilian life)
|in a way that wouldn’t hold true in NATO war games even
|in the “planes are busy today” scenarios.
|u/Ellefied - 1 month
|
|It's called not losing air superiority. Can't mine large
|tracts of land if there's a 99% possibility of you getting
|bombed before you even set out to mine. Once a place has
|been mined, it's nearly impossible to demine it during an
|active frontline conflict.
|u/HodgeGodglin - 1 month
|
|NATO has an entirely different operational doctrine. Soviet
|forces are tank and artillery heavy to batter front lines
|then push with infantry aka the Zerg rushes you see. US
|would thoroughly decimate the area with overwhelming air
|power first, then follow up with combined arms push of
|artillery/armor/infantry. These are the differences the
|other commenter was talking about.
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|Yea we bomb the ever living crop out of then with bombs
|designed to make them go boom
|u/Crozax - 1 month
|
|Also the optics of NATO coaching an invasion of Russia, if it
|ever got out are...not good. NATO and most NATO states have been
|very conservative with what they allow Ukraine to do with their
|weapons specifically because they don't want the optics of
|'Russian civilians killed by American weapons after being caught
|in the crossfire'
|u/ghosttrainhobo - 1 month
|
|Don’t give NATO too much credit for this. They supplied the arms.
|The idea to take the fight into Russia definitely didn’t come from
|NATO. A high ranking NATO official was asked “did you know about
|this attack before it happened” and said “no”. When asked if he
|wished Ukraine hadn’t done it he also said “no”.
|u/Dhiox - 1 month
|
|>A high ranking NATO official was asked “did you know about this
|attack before it happened” and said “no”. Tbf, plausible
|deniability is nice to have. He could have been lying so as to
|not feed Russias persecution comolex.
|u/fireintolight - 1 month
|
|honestly, i don't see any western nations being comfortable
|with ground troops in russia due to their nuclear use
|protocols, so why they aren't going to stop them, doubt they
|suggested to do it. and yes to everyone who's saying "they
|havent launched yet so just invade moscow already" etc it was
|and is still prudent to be cautious when the stakes are that
|high. I don't have a lot of faith in putin not just launching
|something out of desperation or out of pure spite. He must be
|close to his breaking point mentally. narcissistic
|Megalomaniac psycopaths tend to not take kindly to being
|humiliated. and all it takes is for one missile to launch by
|some die hard loyalists to start something we cant undo
|u/ridik_ulass - 1 month
|
|things like biden VS. Trump with a % biden would lose would likely
|weigh in here too, all kinds of things tip the scales. for instance
|Trump wouldn't support Ukraine, so 4 years of political neglect by
|USA would mean the resources they are spending need to be
|preserved... but equally making putin weak, means his troll farm
|has a split attention, which also weakens trumps support.
|u/pres465 - 1 month
|
|A change in leadership seems to have helped, too. Zelensky took a
|risk replacing a popular commander, but it needed to be done. Keep up
|the pressure! It gets tough here soon.
|u/Kevin-W - 1 month
|
|Their OPSEC has been incredible too!
|u/lordderplythethird - 1 month
|
|Unfortunately it's more likely that they're running desperate and
|struggling to hold the line. This is a bid to get Russia to move
|forces off the front line to retake that territory, giving Ukrainian
|forces on the front breathing room. Russia was on the verge of a
|major breakthrough by Donetsk, but had to pull forces from there to
|deal with this. Ukraine's summer offensive was retaking roughly
|25km^2 a week. Russia was taking 45km^2 a week until this.
|https://www.ft.com/content/c716482f-c032-4993-aa12-985a4828ff9d >
|“Our defences are showing cracks,” said one senior Ukrainian official
|familiar with military operations. He warned Russian forces had
|achieved “tactical success” in Donetsk and more advances were likely
|unless the situation turns around.
|u/cartoonist498 - 1 month
|
|Russia overcommitted troops to Donetsk and left their border wide
|open.  So Ukraine attacked. Now Russia has to make up for its
|mistake by pulling troops to defend their border.  That's not an
|indication of desperation, that's just logical battlefield strategy.
|If your enemy makes a mistake like that you definitely take
|advantage whether you're winning or not. 
|u/thetalkingblob - 1 month
|
|This. Russia bought their own bs about being impossible to invade
|u/Alexander_Granite - 1 month
|
|Russia didn’t think it was impossible to invade, they thought
|that the west would never allow Ukraine to do it.
|u/Davegvg - 1 month
|
|Purposeful targeting of civilians aligned the West.
|u/Alexander_Granite - 1 month
|
|Russians will kill anyone not aligned with the current
|Government.
|u/ButtFuzzNow - 1 month
|
|They will kill those as well.
|u/SloopJohnB52 - 1 month
|
|Both can be true. My Ukrainian friend on the Donetsk front says
|the situation is bad there. Outgunned and undermanned, they've
|been fighting hard and doing tactical retreats all summer. I pray
|this Kursk offensive turns the tide and takes the heat off.
|u/EldariWarmonger - 1 month
|
|A tactical retreat isn't 'losing' in any sense of the word.
|They're outgunned, and outmanned. But they certainly aren't
|losing.
|u/DocPsychosis - 1 month
|
|>A tactical retreat isn't 'losing' in any sense of the word.
|It is if that's all you're doing and your goal is to retake
|stolen land, not cede more of it. And you can't really count
|on a war of attrition if you have a smaller population and
|fewer war materiel stocks. Pyrrhic victories are still
|victories if you are Russia and have the spare manpower to
|afford them.
|u/Machdame - 1 month
|
|And that's the mentality of someone that would lose a war.
|Resources don't grow on trees and Ukraine's strength and
|image is based on conserving their limited but solid gear
|compared to the expendable ranks of Russians. Any man that
|tries to hold terrain that can be recovered later is a
|prideful fool.
|u/EldariWarmonger - 1 month
|
|You get it. This dude has no idea what he's talking
|about. Ukraine has functionally infinite resources
|besides manpower. Conserving their manpower by ceding
|marginal territory to continuously fight from prepared
|fighting positions is devastating Russian material in this
|fight.
|u/Hershieboy - 1 month
|
|Pyrrhic victories ruined Pyrrhus. He lost all gains and was
|defeated by two greater world powers.
|u/EldariWarmonger - 1 month
|
|You're not thinking big picture at all, I'm sorry. If you
|can cede 10 square km, but in doing so you destroy X number
|of tanks, Y number of artillery pieces, and Z number of
|infantry, you're doing a good thing. Russia cannot sustain
|their equipment losses. They flat out can't do it. They,
|though bad tactics and piss poor logistics, have literally
|burned through almost all of the Soviet stockpile of
|equipment that Russia had. Sure, you're ceding a bombed
|out ruin of a town, that's a loss in a battle. If you make
|Russia combat ineffective and they run out of equipment,
|then you win the war. Amateurs study tactics, pro's study
|logistics. Ukraine has vastly superior logistics.
|u/SloopJohnB52 - 1 month
|
|Tactical retreat meaning they aren't fighting to the last man
|. They are losing ground they want to keep. In the grand
|scheme, the Frontline hasn't shifted much, but people in the
|west have this jaded idea that Ukraine is crushing Russia. I
|wish that were true. My friend works in artillery and they can
|fire one shell to every 10 Russia shoots back. Russia can
|afford to grind away in this slow war of attrition and
|territory creep. Ukraine cannot. At the end of the day,
|Ukrainians have proven capable of smart strategy, and endless
|surprises. I pray we see some kind of peace or ceasefire in
|2025.
|u/AskALettuce - 1 month
|
|It is losing in the sense of "losing ground".
|u/Real_Bug - 1 month
|
|Sometimes the best defense is a good offense
|u/UltraCarnivore - 1 month
|
|"Don't interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake"
|u/ghosttrainhobo - 1 month
|
|I’ve heard a good argument that this type of escalation has been
|brought about by the West’s reluctance to equip Ukraine with
|enough weapons to win the war - just enough to hold on and
|survive. If Ukraine had enough SAM’s to get air superiority over
|the line of control Donetsk would be an ideal battle space for
|them. But they can’t so instead of just grinding up Russian
|battalions with impunity they can only watch as Russian aviation
|systematically destroys their prepared defenses with glide bombs
|and kills their men. That cold calculus forced Ukraine’s hand to
|mix it up a bit. Getting into Russia’s soft underbelly gets them
|off of the RuAF’s bullseye and lets them use their maneuverability
|advantage.
|u/indyK1ng - 1 month
|
|Part of the problem Ukraine has been having is the glide bombs
|Russia has been using. It seems that the incursion into Kursk is
|designed to not only take pressure off the front lines in Ukraine by
|forcing Russia to move troops off that front but also let them
|attack the air bases those glide bombs have been getting launched
|from. It also happens to be incredibly embarrassing for Putin and
|it appears that Russia has a soft underbelly here.
|u/TazBaz - 1 month
|
|This incursion is amazing because it does like, 6 different things
|at once. Threatens important infrastructure in Russia. Power
|plants, train stations, military air bases. Relieves pressure on
|the front inside Ukraine. Now not only are reinforcements not
|headed to the internal invasion lines, units are actually being
|retasked from the invasion front to deal with this. Disrupts
|supply chains to the front. There's significant threat to the rail
|lines that primarily supply the russian forces inside Ukraine. So
|even the troops who're still there attacking, will have less
|supplies to work with. Exposes Russia's incompetence internally.
|Hard to call Putin the protector when he can't even stop the
|country he's invading from counter-invading him. Moral boost
|internally and externally. It's been hard going with few glowing
|successes for years. This is a massive moral boost. Forces Russia
|to commit more units and resources to defending more of the border
|more seriously. The russian side of the border had been lightly
|defended because Moscow "understood" that Ukraine wasn't being
|*allowed* to counterinvade. Now that's no longer the case. Now,
|even if they contain and push this incursion back out, unless they
|put a bunch more manpower and resources into beefing up defenses
|on the rest of the border, what's to stop Ukraine from just doing
|it again somewhere else?
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|I don't think Ukraine was ever told they can't invade. I'll be
|fucking honest here...Im not sure we'd have even really
|considered that as a realistic possibility. Invade Russia?
|Lol....that would be dumb? Whelp. Guess not so much.
|u/TazBaz - 1 month
|
|I'm not sure it was "you can't invade at all" (although I
|believe it's certainly *possible* that was something that was
|said- a huge reason for the restrictions from the western
|allies is Russia's "red lines" in terms of nuclear response,
|and defending their own soil was something they claimed as a
|red line) so much as it was "you can't use any of our
|equipment to invade". Which is most of the equipment they'd
|want to use to invade, so it made it a bit of a nonstarter.
|Things have changed...
|u/ghosttrainhobo - 1 month
|
|It’s also a lot easier to hit a fixed defensive position from the
|air than it is a mobile force. There was a cockpit video released
|of a Ka-52 Alligator destroying a few vehicles in a convoy that
|turned out to be Russian. They’re not exactly sure where the
|Ukrainians are.
|u/The247Kid - 1 month
|
|I think this part of Russia close enough to Ukrainian anti-air
|that it's a risk to bring those in. Or we would have probably
|already seen it.
|u/R0naldUlyssesSwanson - 1 month
|
|It is more likely that Kharkiv was a test run for what we're seeing
|now. If you look at the footage coming out, of which there is a shit
|ton and the more in detail reports on the offensive, it is a fully
|mechanized assault that is still expanding. Multiple hundreds of
|conscripted Russians taken as pow's. Conscripted soldiers are not
|supposed to see action and are much younger and thus Russian mothers
|are calling for their sons to return. Russian milbloggers are in
|full panic mode. Estimated size of Ukrainian forces in Kursk is
|15.000. No defensive lines till the city of Kursk either. They are
|very well prepared for this assault. Even if vehicles are damaged, a
|lot of it is being hauled back to Ukraine. Yes, it is hard on the
|frontlines and cracks are showing towards Pokrovsk, but just like
|Bakhmut wasn't critical, neither will Pokrovsk be.
|u/Dunkleosteus666 - 1 month
|
|15 000????! I knew it was big but damn.
|u/t1ps_fedora_4_milady - 1 month
|
|> Conscripted soldiers are not supposed to see action Small
|correction: they're not supposed to see action outside of Russia's
|borders, inside is fair game though. One of the original reasons
|for the existence of a standing conscripted army in the form of
|mandatory military service was to always have a way of protecting
|Russia's lands at hand. Agree with you about being well prepared
|for the assault, I've also heard reports of them bringing in
|bulldozers and other heavy engineering equipment so it very well
|could be the case they're going to build fortifications and hold
|on
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|If theu can hold that would be incredible Imagine if they
|capture Kursk...in like a coup, theh roll in they destroy some
|light Russian resistance and the Prussian forces there pledge
|loyalty to Ukriane. They then reinforce Kursk for the impending
|Russia attack. A major super power...loosing a large portion
|of their terrority was not on my 2024 bingo card
|u/thetalkingblob - 1 month
|
|They’re at war of course they are desperate. But big moves like this
|are effective for PR reasons externally, but also I guarantee the
|soldiers holding the line have a renewed fight in them
|u/Alexxis91 - 1 month
|
|So it seems like they would have had to be stupid not to take
|advantage of Russian over commitment then
|u/zipcad - 1 month
|
|Russians are doing the zapp brannigan strategy. Attrition is
|heavily to Russian favor and Putin is willing to kill off that
|entire generation.
|u/wrosecrans - 1 month
|
|Russia is on pace to start really exhausting vehicles next year.
|Even if Russia is willing to keep throwing bodies at Ukraine,
|attrition does not favor Russia forever as long as Ukraine is
|adequately supplied by their allies. _edit, fixed dumb typo_
|u/Gleerok99 - 1 month
|
|Correctly assessed. Russia was counting on the potential
|political fatigue of NATO, European Union countries and the US.
|They're trying hard to get trump elected as well but it hasn't
|been enough and the fatigue doesn't seem to be enough to cause
|damage to the aid influx. In fact; I feel NATO and the west has
|just doubled their intent to keep supporting Ukraine. It
|wasn't looking very good for the past 12 months. But now Russia
|is truly fucked even more. Europeans in special are not happy
|with the energy prices, the whole economic situation but it
|seems this is only making the population in the block even more
|pissed at Russia and willing to support Ukraine even more. It
|seems Russia just keeps doubling on their strategy and losing.
|u/DivinityGod - 1 month
|
|So it was a stalemate. Like they are not taking the country over
|averagung 45 square km a week.
|u/Miserly_Bastard - 1 month
|
|No. Stalemates can be broken quickly and decisively when a
|numerical tipping point is reached (and that is precisely what
|Russia has been building toward -- at an enormous cost of lives
|throughout the summer). The danger is that once one side senses
|that it's over, cohesive command and control is difficult to
|maintain, recruitment is impossible, and a rout is both possible
|and often extremely disorganized and bloody for both soldiers and
|civilians. Attacking an exposed flank has allowed Ukraine to
|avoid that outcome both militarily and more importantly in terms
|of morale.
|u/DivinityGod - 1 month
|
|Russia does not have the man power, air cover, logistics, or
|armor to "break out." Neither does Ukraine. It was a stalemate.
|Russia is trying to take over the Donbas but they are not going
|further without rail heads. Ukraine is trying a new tactic at
|the same time they grind it out wutt Russia. 10 sq km a week or
|20 sq km is not going to make a huge difference.
|u/Qwertysapiens - 1 month
|
|Yeah, but 1000 sq km might
|u/The_Doobies - 1 month
|
|Appear weak when you are strong. This was intentional. Instead of
|reinforcing Donetsk, they were plotting an offensive elsewhere.
|u/Anleme - 1 month
|
|Yes, and hit the enemy where they are weak.
|u/wotad - 1 month
|
|I'm not sure if they are really desperate but just wanted to show
|some results. I doubt they can keep this area but hopefully allows
|for them to retake areas in Ukraine. Russia was barely making
|progress
|u/Bulky_Caramel - 1 month
|
|Putin claimed that he needed to start his bullshit war because he was
|worried Russia would get invaded by NATO. Because he started said
|bullshit war, Russia is now getting invaded by Ukraine. There's a
|lesson here, but I don't think Vladmir is smart enough to understand it.
|u/AnotherCuppaTea - 1 month
|
|...a NATO that now includes Finland and Sweden (I still grin every
|time I recall it), and both their govts. and populaces are
|enthusiastic members and helping Ukraine.
|u/Regular_Chap - 1 month
|
|Yeah, the change in opinion related to NATO changed DRAMATICALLY
|here in Finland. Before Crimea was invaded I feel like most people
|were either openly against joining NATO or just slightly skeptical
|about the whole thing. After the full on war began it was very rare
|to see someone be against it.
|u/Blyatskinator - 1 month
|
|Same here in Sweden, would NEVER have thought that our cowards of
|politicians would dare to even propose this. I’d like to think
|that it’s in large part thanks to you my Finnish bros ❤️
|u/Regular_Chap - 1 month
|
|I'm glad Sweden and Finland were very clear that they both
|wanted to join together. I think it sent a clear message towards
|both the people and to Putin. I might be reaching with this but
|I also think joining NATO together with Sweden has resulted in
|less jokes about how Swedish people are all assholes. Maybe it's
|just that the younger generation doesn't care about the Sweden
|vs Finland "rivalry" and it was always the 50 year old geezers
|who were talking about how all swedish people are gay rich
|people :D In general I think Swedes are seen much more like a
|brother than in the past when it was all about "fuck sweden"
|u/Blyatskinator - 1 month
|
|The rich Swedish assholes are all from Stockholm, which is
|unfortunately very close to Finland lmao. The rest of Sweden
|has the same sentiment there about them, so no worries 😉
|u/ContainerKonrad - 1 month
|
|Wait what! are Swedes assholes?? i though they just where
|drunks.. Best regards from Denmark ;-)
|u/fluffy_assassins - 1 month
|
|I've noticed my generation(millennials) in the US have shut
|down "polish people are stupid" jokes.
|u/BHSPitMonkey - 1 month
|
|You accept risk entering a defense treaty, especially if you
|believe it's more likely you'll get dragged into someone else's
|conflict than the other way around.
|u/Regular_Chap - 1 month
|
|It was more general and vague "why do we need to get involved in
|something that doesn't concern us" Not antagonizing Russia was
|definitely a part of it. Hatred towards Russia (and by proxy
|also towards Russian people) was considerably lower in 2010 than
|in 2000 or before and I think people in general were happy that
|relations with Russia were improving. Joining NATO would have
|been a considerable "fuck you" to Russia which was back then
|seen as a big negative.
|u/Lagviper - 1 month
|
|Americans vote wisely this coming fall. Everyone knows what happens
|to NATO if Trump is back
|u/slowrun_downhill - 1 month
|
|And that’s pretty nonsensical. Ukraine and Finland are not part of
|NATO, so as it stood, Russia had two major “buffer countries” between
|them and NATO. By invading Ukraine they basically placed NATO closer
|to their border. I don’t know, Putin’s rationale seems thin
|u/Bright_Cod_376 - 1 month
|
|Their resoning has its roots in them believing the Maidan Revolution
|was a US effort to get Ukraine to join NATO. They just ignore the
|part that they didnt actually get serious about trying to join in
|recent times until after Russia had already been sending
|"vacationing soliders" with military equipment across the border as
|well as firing artillery and missiles across.
|u/Velociraptorius - 1 month
|
|They also ignore the fact that Maidan was a movement by Ukraine
|and the Ukrainians' own will. They keep pushing this "Ukraine was
|pro-Russia, but the West masterminded Maidan and made Ukraine its
|puppet". As is typical for Russia, this is projection, because
|they have never and would have never stopped trying to make
|Ukraine into their puppet as long as it was a "neutral" country,
|so whatever else happens to them must mean that someone else is
|puppeteering Ukraine away from that course. When in reality
|Ukraine, like most post-Soviet countries, are sick and tired of
|Russia's meddling and wishes to chart its own course, which just
|so happens to allign with Western values.
|u/slowrun_downhill - 1 month
|
|Damn
|u/Bright_Cod_376 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, no matter what they choose to ignore order of events
|despite the entire world knowing what they were doing,
|especially after they shot down that civilian plane over Ukraine
|and the weapon was tracked being brought across the border.
|u/deathf4n - 1 month
|
|Because he never wanted "buffer countries". He wanted non-nato
|countries that he could invade, see Ukraine
|u/Kuroyukihime1 - 1 month
|
|The sad part is how many people buy this. As if any nation would ever
|attack a nuclear super power which will result in the end of our
|civilization. (I know Ukraine is doing it right now, but I mean in the
|sense of actually completely destroying Russia). My theory remains
|that he really had/has Cancer and wanted to go down in Russian History
|as "the one that united Russia and Ukraine" before he died. The entire
|war is about Putins ego.
|u/pelfinho - 1 month
|
|Thing is, he didn’t actually think that. That’s just propaganda, smoke
|and mirrors. They wanted their land and their resources. They didn’t
|like that Ukraine was turning into a modern sovereign nation, and no
|longer needed Russia. 
|u/filipv - 1 month
|
|Since this idiotic invasion began, I'm beginning to think that Putin
|is not *that* smart, that he's merely an old-school apparatchik who
|happened to be at the right place at the right time and rose to power.
|He's not dumb, of course, but he's not exactly a political genius
|either. EDIT Clarity.
|u/Ok-Ad5495 - 1 month
|
|Ukraines Special Military Operation is getting some early results, lol.
|Too bad Putin wanted more real estate, now he just has a lot of graves
|to dig.
|u/Odd-Masterpiece7304 - 1 month
|
|He ain't gonna dig any graves. Russians don't come back for the bodies
|of their comrades, they just leave them.
|u/Adept-Mulberry-8720 - 1 month
|
|They come back with industrial incinerator on a trailer and burn all
|bodies..
|u/elchiguire - 1 month
|
|And it’s the meat cube be while they wait.
|u/Ludwigofthepotatoppl - 1 month
|
|Sunflowers will have beat them to it.
|u/Bright_Cod_376 - 1 month
|
|Oh, those are for trying to cover up warcrimes not their soliders
|u/FlyNeither - 1 month
|
|Funny thing is, those Russian corpses in Kursk will be resting on
|top of the Wehrmacht bones that already litter the place.
|u/GfunkWarrior28 - 1 month
|
|Putin been playing too much Civ. He sent all his units to the front,
|but still has Phalanxes fortifying the boundaries.
|u/HawkeyeSherman - 1 month
|
|It's just absolute bonkers that Russia doesn't even have air superiority
|in Russia.
|u/ViaNocturna664 - 1 month
|
|This basically proves that if nuclear weapons didn't exist, NATO could
|steamroll their way through Moscow with their B-team during a weekend.
|u/derpityhurr - 1 month
|
|I mean, there's a reason why countries like Russia and NK are
|obsessed with nukes. It's their only trump card, they're like a
|schoolyard bully who gets all his power from the *threat* that he
|might do something but starts losing it as soon as someone
|challenges him.
|u/Angelworks42 - 1 month
|
|It really isn't though - they cost a fortune to maintain (which
|I'd bet that oligarchs in Russia are just pocketing that money),
|and if you ever use one then you're literally putting all your
|cards on the table - it's like a please invade me and put this to
|rest card. According to the DOE budget each missile here costs 16
|million a year - just to maintain.
|u/Longjumping_Pie5779 - 1 month
|
|Basically yeah. Russia is only a threat because of their nukes.
|u/Agent_03 - 1 month
|
|... and you have to wonder how many of those nukes are actually
|functional. The US spends an absolutely gobsmacking amount of
|money on Nuclear Stockpile Stewardship. That would be physics
|research to verify their nuclear weapons will still function, plus
|engineering and maintenance on them. Russia does not appear to.
|Granted it only takes a handful of warheads that work (and even a
|fizzle is devastating)... but one wonders just how many of their
|nuclear warheads will end being very expensive dirty bombs.
|u/reddit_account_00000 - 1 month
|
|Problem is that it just takes one functional one to change the
|world forever.
|u/SomeRedditorTosspot - 1 month
|
|I don't understand why anyone still thinks Russia has working
|nuclear weapons. My country (UK) spends upwards of 2 billion a
|year maintaining its arsenal of about 120 warheads and their
|delivery system. Yep, one delivery system. And it has help from
|the US to share the costs.. And STILL the last Trident missile
|test was a dud. The idea Russia could maintain thousands, while
|having a GDP smaller than the UK, and a population larger, is
|laughable. We saw how much corruption under Putin has gutted
|their conventional military. It will have gutted their nuclear
|arsenal too. The nukes are smoke and mirrors, they don't exist.
|u/Original-Turnover-92 - 1 month
|
|Bruh, every time you test that theory, millions of lives are
|being risked as well as the literal future of the world. That's
|insane.  EVEN ONE nuclear detonation is not worth it.
|u/DrDumle - 1 month
|
|Russians labor costs less than British.
|u/SomeRedditorTosspot - 1 month
|
|There's more to it than labour though.
|u/Powerful-Cucumber-60 - 1 month
|
|The thing is that only a few of those thousands of warheads need
|to work to create hell on earth, plus its not entirely
|unithinkable that they actually do combat corruption in the one
|area which they know is the single reason anyone respects their
|authority. Nobody wants to bet millions of lives on the chance
|that none of their thousands of warheads work anymore due to
|corruption. Its possible but if you are wrong its over.
|u/hilav19660 - 1 month
|
|They probably don’t work either
|u/iamtheweaseltoo - 1 month
|
|It also proves that MAD is the one thing stopping ww3 not the UN as
|some people here in reddit like to tout 
|u/bengeo1191 - 1 month
|
|What? People actually believe that ?
|u/Lortekonto - 1 month
|
|Ehhh no. Most people believe that many conflicts are stopped
|because of UN and the new way of conducting international law
|after WWII and they are right. That is well proven. To argue
|against it, is like arguing against global warming because there
|is snow outside your window. A simplified version is that
|before UN might made right and only might made right. So when
|for example Canada and Denmark had a dispute over a small
|island, they would have to resolve it either through war or some
|other dominating power move. Now they were able to get it done
|through arbitration. The UN have many tools to stop or
|deescelate conflicts like that and there is plenty of conflicts
|like that you never hear about, because it is handled throuh the
|UN. The reason we do not have a WWIII was because of MAD during
|the Cold War and after the Cold War NATO have had around 2/3 of
|the entire world military resources. So no one have been able to
|challenge them.
|u/CptCroissant - 1 month
|
|Fuckin Wagner would've made it there in like a week
|u/Mrslinkydragon - 1 month
|
|Considering the Ukrainians blew up an oil tank farm with a converted
|plane...
|u/timmystwin - 1 month
|
|I think that one got through as it didn't look military, and a lot
|of civilians within Russia use that kind of plane - someone probably
|saw it, and held off, assuming it was a standard plane, until it was
|too late.
|u/Mrslinkydragon - 1 month
|
|That's how it was done.
|u/weebitofaban - 1 month
|
|Most people predicted Russia was just talking tough the past 20-30
|years, maybe even 40. No one expected it to be this bad. They really
|fell behind.
|u/fireintolight - 1 month
|
|most of their current gen tech is pretty legit, they just don't have
|much of it. like barely any. they've always been, and still are,
|good engineers. just the average intelligence of the russian
|military member is painfully low, the s-400 is seriously capable
|system, most of the big gaffes we've seen are due to user error.
|The bulk of the russian military was slightly older gear and then
|even older gear in storage, which we've seen still be quite capable
|of being lethal and have in quite some abundance, so that's also
|not really their limiting factor either. it's really just the
|structure of the military, the absolutely rampant corruption at
|every level, and the alcoholism of course. you can have all the
|fancy toys you want (Assuming they weren't stripped of their copper)
|but if your officer corps is completely incompetent and indivudal
|units aren't allowed to improvise on the spot due to changing
|battlefield conditions, and if the footsoldiers are likely blacked
|out drunk after receiving two weeks of training and maybe two weeks
|of schooling in their entire life...your military just ain't gonna
|perform. If you just swapped the personnel of the russian army with
|a western army and given them all the same equipment russia had at
|the start (even with the broken/missing copper systems) they would
|have won this conflict easy, even with western weapons being
|supplied to Ukraine.
|u/baylonedward - 1 month
|
|The only invasion that I support lmao.
|u/Dreurmimker - 1 month
|
|Nothing like conquering land and distributing aid… wait, that’s sounds
|an awful lot like liberation… 🤔
|u/scumsuckinglandlord - 1 month
|
|definitely better than what ruzzians do to ukrainian land and
|civilians…
|u/SjurEido - 1 month
|
|Ukraine is about to annex Russia, lol
|u/Cookie_Eater108 - 1 month
|
|It's incredible to think that during the initial invasion, fuel,food
|and medical supplies had to be raided from the civilian base because
|of a lack of logistics support from Russia. Ukraine on the other
|hand, has such robust logistics that 2 weeks into an occupation they
|have secured supply lines to move not only what their occupation
|force needs but spare logistics for the civilians too. It reminds
|me of WW1, when German troops were eating stale bread and hardtack-
|while Entente troops were having meat and peas in their meals.
|u/Annie_Mous - 1 month
|
|Karma
|u/bluervvers - 1 month
|
|Fuck them up Ukraine.
|u/vraalapa - 1 month
|
|Get 'er done
|u/Annie_Mous - 1 month
|
|Take em down’
|u/Cardo94 - 1 month
|
|It's a great day for hay, what's it to ya?
|u/ZiggoCiP - 1 month
|
|They gon' do their stuff.
|u/CoreyDenvers - 1 month
|
|Russian Air Farce deserves nothing less than to be put in the ground.
|No one will ever congratulate you for how accurately you struck
|children's cancer hospitals.
|u/Nevermoreacadamyalum - 1 month
|
|There’s a special place in hell for people who thought up that idea.
|u/CoreyDenvers - 1 month
|
|Stop making me sad that hell isn't a real place that actually
|exists. I want the next best thing, for this world that we currently
|live in to no longer be available to Russian child murdering
|terrorists
|u/Upstairs_Shelter_427 - 1 month
|
|Breakfast in Kursk, Lunch in Moscow, and dinner in Vladivostok.
|u/dat_oracle - 1 month
|
|Showing them what it is to get invaded is fine, but it can't get to a
|point of existential fear for Russia. I'm afraid it might create a
|castastrophic spiral of cruelty
|u/frumiouscumberbatch - 1 month
|
|In Russian invasion of Ukraine, Ukraine invades you!
|u/CorvidCuriosity - 1 month
|
|Wow, I love this joke. Yakov Smirnov would be proud. Sorry, but I'm
|going to annex it into my repertoire. I held a referendum and 145% of
|the joke wants me to use it in the future. /s
|u/Tragicallyphallic - 1 month
|
|I dunno man. Just use a dick joke.
|u/BigNorr99 - 1 month
|
|This is just epic to watch
|u/ErgoMachina - 1 month
|
|Fuck them hard. Slava Ukraini
|u/Zimmermannequin - 1 month
|
|глори то украине
|u/RumpleHelgaskin - 1 month
|
|I love hearing about bullies getting their asses kicked!
|u/PM_ME_UR_VULVASAUR_ - 1 month
|
|Friendly reminder to donate directly to the cause (if you can afford
|it!) https://u24.gov.ua/
|u/j________l - 1 month
|
|This website is awesome. They are very transparent and have some funny
|memes.
|u/sandefurd - 1 month
|
|Thank you for this! I like that it lets you choose where your money
|goes, all good causes! It looks like a lot of banks are waiving
|transfer fees to Ukraine.
|u/aarondoyle - 1 month
|
|Donated! Thanks for the link.
|u/MrGeno - 1 month
|
|Bravo Ukraine! I support you and wish you well in kicking Putins arse.
|u/Kwelikinz - 1 month
|
|How does it feeeeeel🎶
|u/Disco425 - 1 month
|
|This moment would have arrived months sooner if the GOP in Congress
|didn't hold up Ukraine aid
|u/pocahantaswarren - 1 month
|
|Biden could also authorize use of long range missiles against Russian
|territory but he won’t, handcuffing the Ukrainians and causing many
|unnecessary risks and casualties
|u/Disco425 - 1 month
|
|True, but I suspect there are experts in the US military who are
|advising him on this sort of calculus, who have access to
|intelligence we do not. The Republicans cutting the flow of US to
|Ukrainian military aid were not engaging in some thoughtful calculus
|but playing politics under MAGA King orders with national security.
|u/KermitplaysTLOU - 1 month
|
|Yeah it's always so funny seeing people on here saying that "if
|they had done so and so sooner then they'd probably be x y and z"
|like there aren't literal experts who dedicate their life to
|exactly this, guiding and advising the president.
|u/Gwtheyrn - 1 month
|
|I think Ukraine wanted the F-16s in play for air cover first.
|u/Original-Turnover-92 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, and the GOP left Ukraine without ammo for SIX MONTHS
|u/QZRChedders - 1 month
|
|Amazing work. Slava Ukraini! Reminder to write to your local
|politicians and ask that aid weapons be permitted for striking targets
|in Russia proper!
|u/krismitka - 1 month
|
|“Well, the troops have been sitting around in trenches all summer, so
|they decided to go for a drive and let off some steam. Nothing to worry
|about Putin, go back to sleep” - Zelenskyy, probably
|u/Direct-Fix-2097 - 1 month
|
|Meanwhile at the bbc; “But how can we downplay this and make it sound
|like Ukraine will lose.” 🤨
|u/TheTightestChungus - 1 month
|
|What is boggling my mind here is that shouldn't Russia have air
|supremacy within their own borders?  
|u/StealthCatUK - 1 month
|
|How will that help retake Russian settlements, with Russian assets,
|homes and people?
|u/deathf4n - 1 month
|
|Uh, so _now_ they care about civilian casualties.
|u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 - 1 month
|
|Уф. I'm not a betting man, but the chances of internal regime change in
|Moscow have got to be rising by the day
|u/Random_Guy_47 - 1 month
|
|Ukraine didn't "invade" Kursk. They launched a Special Military
|Operation to de-Russianify the area.
|u/Vistella - 1 month
|
|sorry, you talking bullcrap they are clearly just on vacation
|u/rho9000 - 1 month
|
|The battle of Kursk where German tanks rolled into Russia 80 years ago
|is now happening again.
|u/PorgCT - 1 month
|
|NATO needs to send them every Patriot missile in storage; they are using
|them for their designed purpose.
|u/Burt_Selleck - 1 month
|
|Are there maps available showing the progress made into Russia?
|u/aphrodora - 1 month
|
|https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2024_Kursk_Oblast_incursion
|The Wiki page is regularly updated and has a map. The timeline
|includes August 14.
|u/Burt_Selleck - 1 month
|
|Thank you very much. I knew I could google and find some info but
|the great thing about Reddit is the free flow of information from
|other individuals who are more knowledgeable than myself. I'll keep
|this site in mind as the coming days go by.
|u/aphrodora - 1 month
|
|I don't claim to be most knowledgeable, but I did happen to hunt
|for it myself a day or two ago. Happy to share the fruit of my
|efforts 🤣
|u/Burt_Selleck - 1 month
|
|You helped me out and that's what I appreciate. Thank you again
|u/darkslide3000 - 1 month
|
|[ISW's map](https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de6
|41cf64bd375) is generally one of the most well-researched and
|regularly updated.
|u/DrBiochemistry - 1 month
|
|Be Aware. This post is being covered by Russian Tankies sewing doubt
|and disinformation. That's all that Putin has left, disinformation.
|Ukraine is winning. It's not the beginning of the end, but it is the end
|of the beginning. Go Ukraine 🇺🇦 (Source: Guy with Polish Ancestry who
|knows some history)
|u/cbterry - 1 month
|
|After watching them get held off by a country with 1/4th the
|population it's looking like all they've ever had was their
|disinformation technology
|u/zyzzogeton - 1 month
|
|TBF, that shit really fucked up the US in the 2016 election.
|u/thebendavis - 1 month
|
|And it hasn't stopped.
|u/Daneruu - 1 month
|
|I dunno man the bots seem a bit busy lately.
|u/Ilovekittens345 - 1 month
|
|russian internet is primarily 20 internet exchanges, those are
|all just data centres. Buildings. Bomb all 20 of them and
|99,999% of Russian bandwith is gone.
|u/cbterry - 1 month
|
|Their political technology, which afaik is the official name for
|it, is very powerful and effective. In addition to social media
|rewarding rage bait, the influence of propaganda and the people
|who are conditioned by it is sending the ~~online~~ world in a
|horrible direction.
|u/TrainmasterGT - 1 month
|
|And the 2016 Brexit referendum. Putin’s invasion of Ukraine has
|proven to me that Russia is more of an espionage power than a true
|military power.
|u/Gwtheyrn - 1 month
|
|Would have never been able to do it without the willing
|cooperation of American business leaders and numerous GOP
|operatives and elected officials.
|u/Strange-Implication - 1 month
|
|Also fucked up UK in 2016 Brexit and the recent riots 
|u/Modo44 - 1 month
|
|That's because we helped, and are still helping. Ukraine is
|continuously receiving massive help of all kinds. The Russian plans
|assumed they would be fighting Ukraine, and Ukraine alone. Which
|made asses of them.
|u/sulimir - 1 month
|
|They speak like they’ve never been smacked in the fucking mouth.
|That’s ok Ukraine has the remedy.
|u/ParkingMarch97 - 1 month
|
|Wasn't expecting to find Puscifer lyrics here, but here we are.
|Cheers for making me smile even more about the incursion, mate.
|u/enjoysallnuggets - 1 month
|
|My dude. Read that in Maynard’s voice immediately. Much love
|u/YellowSnowShoes - 1 month
|
|Tankies is not the right word for pro Russian Astro turfers. ватник
|(vatnyk, vatnik) would be more apt.
|u/BrofessorFarnsworth - 1 month
|
|Russia needs to lose their internet privileges 
|u/MinusVitaminA - 1 month
|
|The bots was meant ot influence the US election, but we all know how
|that is going. If I were putin, i'll temporarily hold off the bots and
|put my money in helping the refugees.
|u/ImperiumPopuliPopule - 1 month
|
|Sowing disinformation fyi.
|u/DrBiochemistry - 1 month
|
|Thank you.
|u/BehindThyCamel - 1 month
|
|I hope they pull off a 1610.
|u/whiskeyriver0987 - 1 month
|
|Just a heads up, if you hit Sarah Palin's house, it's cool, but you went
|too far.
|u/Lance_E_T_Compte - 1 month
|
|It'd be very cool. Help yourselves to anything from her refrigerator!
|u/N-shittified - 1 month
|
|I'd even say; steal her toilet. Just for laughs.
|u/50DuckSizedHorses - 1 month
|
|Everyone should look up “Ukrainian military google reviews of Kursk
|restaurants” it’s amazing.
|u/PeregrinePacifica - 1 month
|
|May this lead to the Putin regime’s downfall and an end to Russian
|aggression towards it's neighbors.
|u/notaged - 1 month
|
|this is the type of shit i wanna hear every day :)
|u/Tao_Jonez - 1 month
|
|This Kursk incursion could well be a huge turning point if they can
|break the rail supply lines to the Russian troops in Ukraine. At that
|point the overextended Russian military is brought to its knees and did
|somebody say negotiations?
|u/Frnklfrwsr - 1 month
|
|Yeah I think this is really the biggest goal here. Ukraine has no
|interest in actually holding this territory for any extended period of
|time. But they can damage infrastructure needed to supply Russian
|troops that are invading Ukraine. Break up those supply lines, and the
|Russian invasion of Ukraine becomes untenable.
|u/drunkbelgianwolf - 1 month
|
|And force poetin to take troops out of ukrania to defend his
|borders.
|u/Different-Brain-9210 - 1 month
|
|Somebody said it. Then they inexplicably jumped out of a window.
|u/KingSilvanos - 1 month
|
|Finally, some actual denazifying.
|u/Oldfolksboogie - 1 month
|
|Keep these headlines coming, I'm almost there...
|u/ComputerJerk - 1 month
|
|You really have to wonder what's going on in the historically pro-
|separatist parts of Russia. I'm talking about the Dagestans, Astrakhans,
|Chechnyas, Ossetias, etc. of the Russian Empire which in recent memory
|have in some cases been in open conflict with the Government. If the
|Chechnyan guard returned home now, "freshly" equipped, do we really
|think Russia would be in a position to put down another separatist
|uprising? The message seems loud and clear: Now's your chance.
|u/ZehAntRider - 1 month
|
|I still remember hearing the News about Russia invading the Ukraine and
|I thought that Russia is going to overrun them within a week, being
|military superpower and all that... And now here we are... Watching
|the Ukraine invade part of Russia...
|u/Golden_Hour1 - 1 month
|
|Fuck Russia
|u/mick_boi - 1 month
|
|Please let this be the end of it. It's so close I can taste it. Let
|this be the beginning of the end of the war.
|u/alpharowe3 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, only another decade or 2 to go
|u/BearFeetOrWhiteSox - 1 month
|
|Russia's economy can't take the hit, China can't afford to bankroll
|it either.
|u/SparklingPseudonym - 1 month
|
|There are levels of survival they are prepared to accept.
|u/randomredditing - 1 month
|
|Oooo The Matrix right?
|u/Bonesnapcall - 1 month
|
|Zelensky smashed that plate of cookies DELIBERATELY!
|PURPOSEFULLY!
|u/VerySluttyTurtle - 1 month
|
|um... excuse me? what exactly do you think is happening? This is an
|embarrassment to Putin, hopefully lets Ukraine hit some key targets a
|bit deeper into Russia, draw some Russian resources away from the
|western front, maybe serve as a diversion, possibly be used as a
|bargaining chip? I don't pretend to know exactly what the goal is, or
|how this will turn out, but no serious analyst and I don't believe
|even Ukraine itself is projecting that Ukraine launches a broad
|offensive deep into Russia. I hope they cause some chaos and make it
|further in before they are stopped, but they are clearly not
|allocating the numbers or resources to take a major a Russian city or
|march on Moscow, or something that would have an effect on the end of
|the war
|u/EddieCheddar88 - 1 month
|
|I don’t think anyone thinks they’re marching on Moscow
|u/Jessejets - 1 month
|
|Well, I never thought I'd witness a blitzkrieg in my lifetime, but here
|we are.
|u/odsirim - 1 month
|
|This war is replaying all the early to mid 20th Century war strategies
|in a speed run.
|u/BackgroundCarpet1796 - 1 month
|
|With all of this happening, I wonder if the separatist forces in Russia
|will get bolder. It's a chain reaction just waiting to happen.
|u/Macaroninotbolognese - 1 month
|
|Putler must be in total panic now. These people surround themselves with
|similar people and once they see weakness they pounce. If so called
|great leader can't secure the borders of the so called 2nd army in the
|world, he starts to seem weak in the eyes of other bullies.
|u/werpu - 1 month
|
|The 3 day operation goes really well for Putain...
|u/kcifone - 1 month
|
|This is the first time a nuclear power has had their borders invaded
|since it’s been invented. I can’t even imagine how this will play out.
|It’s gone on too long. And the Ukrainian people are heroes in my
|perspective. Russia relinquished control of Ukraine in 1991. Ukraine
|was not a threat to Russia at all.
|u/Wajina_Sloth - 1 month
|
|Falkland islands? Argentina invaded British territory in the 80’s and
|they are a nuclear power
|u/kcifone - 1 month
|
|True. But not the mainland.
|u/ttak82 - 1 month
|
|> This is the first time a nuclear power has had their borders invaded
|since it’s been invented. No it is not. Indian controlled territory
|was invaded in 1999. Yeah. When leadership is stupid, nukes are not a
|deterrent.
|u/zukoandhonor - 1 month
|
|Yes. But that was by another Nuclear power.
|u/Muted_Intention9302 - 1 month
|
|Russia (Russian Regime) has always been the worlds enemy
|u/j________l - 1 month
|
|Not only the regime. It’s Russia.
|u/Minkcricker - 1 month
|
|With luck they will blow up that big Antonov when it comes back from
|Iran.
|u/Bulky-Scheme-9450 - 1 month
|
|Next stop Moscow pls
|u/TotalLackOfConcern - 1 month
|
|No one will ever invade Ukraine again. They have proven to be skilled
|and capable fighters. With the right equipment and leadership they will
|be a regional powerhouse.
|u/russia-is-wrlds-enmy - 1 month
|
|Kyivan Rus is taking Moscowy back to Kyivan Rus ( present day Ukraine )
|u/ZacZupAttack - 1 month
|
|Well hot damn...I did not expect that.
|u/TheSwede121 - 1 month
|
|LETS GO LADS
|u/forgotmyusername4444 - 1 month
|
|Wouldn't it be sweet if Putin fell out of a window suddenly?
|u/Nevermoreacadamyalum - 1 month
|
|Mysteriously. From a very high building.
|u/StickAFork - 1 month
|
|It's Putin Ruskki smackdown time. Down with the Puskkis.
|u/Titan-uranus - 1 month
|
|Come on Western countries, take the hand cuffs off!!
|u/Ilovekittens345 - 1 month
|
|Just a matter of time till they manage to take over an airfield and all
|it's planes and helis without destroying anything.
|u/cheesifiedd - 1 month
|
|what a weak leader Putin
|u/astride_unbridulled - 1 month
|
|Fuck ya, Slava boys!
|u/FuckOffReddit77 - 1 month
|
|Bleed Russia Bleed
|u/TacoMaster42069 - 1 month
|
|And to think the entire world has been afraid of Russia since the 50s.
|LoL They cant even handle a war it started with a much smaller nation
|they share a border with.
|u/banjo_assassin - 1 month
|
|The balls on these guys! Iron joker sez the jokes on you now. Straight
|up yer annex.
|u/MauiSpilt - 1 month
|
|Shred their shit up, Ukraine!
|u/Individual-Dot-9605 - 1 month
|
|Russia finally getting liberated from corrupt Trump/Putler regime of
|self aggrandizing billionaire Oligargh cult masquerading as agenda
|2025/Othodox traditional values pundits.
|u/petrovmendicant - 1 month
|
|These advances are going to make hitting places like Moscow that much
|easier for their special forces. Not saying they will, but it makes
|attacks on important sites within Russia more feasible. A massive place
|like Russia is very difficult to defend past their borders. Once they
|get past the first defense at the border, there is a lot less Putin can
|do to stop them without dedicating resources and soldiers he does not
|have to it. He'll either throw conscripts at the Ukrainians or will pull
|out their more experienced from areas they control in Eastern Ukraine.
|Either way, Putin must feel humiliated. Bet he was just raging behind
|the scenes and having a tantrum.
|u/jwm3 - 1 month
|
|Is there an up to date map of what is happening where and where the
|lines are?
|u/ZERO_PORTRAIT - 1 month
|
|This is the closest you will get to a live map of the war situation:
|[Ukraine Interactive map - Ukraine Latest news on live map -
|liveuamap.com](https://liveuamap.com/?s=09)
|u/Fox_Kurama - 1 month
|
|"It was the West of times. It was the Kursk of times." -shamelessly
|stolen from another redditor referencing a Tale of Two Cities quote.
|“‎And yet I have had the weakness, and have still the weakness, to wish
|you to know with what a sudden mastery you kindled me, heap of ashes
|that I am, into fire.” -An actual quote from Tale of Two Cities.
|u/Ghstfce - 1 month
|
|слава україні!
|u/Marc-Muller - 1 month
|
|They left comments on a restaurant’s internet page in Kursk, so funny:
|https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1erx6ux/restaurant_r
|eviews_in_kursk_region_russia_amid/#lightbox
|u/Hot-Rise9795 - 1 month
|
|Time for Kazakhstan to collect some old debts.
|u/malhiv - 1 month
|
|Its like Putin didnt play Risk when he was a kid. I mean its the first
|thing you learn. Or took the Seinfeld Risk quip about Ukraine too
|seriously.
|u/bonelessonly - 1 month
|
|GIVE 'EM HELL **SLAVA UKRAINI!**
|u/litkit107 - 1 month
|
|Wow, Ukraine's strategy is evolving. This large-scale operation could be
|a game-changer.
|u/Moeen_Ali - 1 month
|
|I wonder why Russia's border is so poorly defended and open if Putin is
|scared of being invaded by Nato? Could it be that he is not quite the
|master strategist the bots would have people believe.
|u/lazyplayboy - 1 month
|
|Meanwhile, the UK is limiting the use of supplied weapons. Shameful.
|u/No_Guest186 - 1 month
|
|God bless Ukraine.
|u/lilly101123 - 1 month
|
|I’m from russia and everything is being censored here, can some
|recommend any legit news sources?
|u/SwordfishFrosty2057 - 1 month
|
|Pray for the Russian people. Putin will use this as a rallying moment to
|justify more drafting of their youth. Many in Russia likely don't want
|to be a part of this. That said, the Ukrainians deserve the right to
|live their lives without random glide bombs being sent towards buildings
|without military value just so a dictator can present a strong man
|facade and justify his actions. Those serving under the paw of the
|tyrannical wolf, do not deserve to be valued above the sheep who fight
|back. Slava Ukraine P.S. These sheep have teeth and western dentists.
|u/alexicek - 1 month
|
|Putins end is nigh
|u/Used_Intention6479 - 1 month
|
|I believe that Putin's and Trump's simultaneous declines are related to
|each other, somehow.
|u/Positive_Laugh6946 - 1 month
|
|Can someone explain why the tides seem to have turned? I feel like just
|weeks ago there was a media blast about Ukraine faltering. What’s
|changed?
|u/LPIViolette - 1 month
|
|Basically, instead of fighting around the heavily fortified front
|lines they took the initiative to strike where Russia was weak, in
|Russia itself. Russia has basically only kept a token force guarding
|their own border since they felt Western powers wouldn’t dare let
|Ukraine mount a major offensive in Russia. That is a huge handicap
|since Ukraine needs to defend its entire nation while Russia just need
|to defend the parts of Ukraine they are holding. Now that there is a
|real force behind their lines it’s a huge blow to Russia. The work
|they need to do has suddenly exploded. There are over a hundred
|thousand refugees. All military assets and infrastructure in the area
|suddenly needs a real defense force. They can’t just indiscriminately
|bomb on their own territory and the threat of internal militants
|taking advantage of the situation is huge. Ukraine is still in a bad
|state though. Russia had been gaining territory slowly in a meat
|grinder fashion but its real gains and that story hasn’t changed.
|Opening a new front is both brilliant and desperate. It’s not a move
|they would have likely made if things were going better.
|u/Gwtheyrn - 1 month
|
|Ukraine launched a combined arms counterinvasion they had been
|preparing two months for. The arrival of the F-16s were the final
|piece that they wanted in place. It turns out that Russia had a
|really soft underbelly and has apparently overcommitted themselves.
|u/N-shittified - 1 month
|
|the funny part is, I think the intended role of the F-16's is to
|shoot down retaliatory strikes from Russia; not necessarily to
|attack Russia itself.
|u/VRichardsen - 1 month
|
|> Can someone explain why the tides seem to have turned? I feel like
|just weeks ago there was a media blast about Ukraine faltering. What’s
|changed? This is a secondary front that Russia neglected to defend.
|Ukraine wasn't expected to attack in this direction (the war is going
|to be decided in the south of Ukraine) and the Russian were caught
|with their pants down. The front was bogged down and neither side
|could achieve a decisive breakthrough. Russia was experiencing
|enormous losses only to advance hundreds of meters; by the same token,
|Ukraine was hard pressed to stage a successful counteroffensive... so
|Ukraine decided to flip the board and take some of Russia. Now they
|have a bargaining chip for negotiating.
|u/Theblokeonthehill - 1 month
|
|Sun Tzu: “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are
|weak.”
|u/Golden_Hour1 - 1 month
|
|Ukraine got important intelligence on where to strike
|u/LargeCountry - 1 month
|
|I need a new banner or something that just is the, "MORE" meme with Kylo
|Ren. --- All jokes aside, I live in a country that lets me say,
|'Russia... Just. GO HOME. LEAVE HUMANITY ALONE.'
|u/Stoo_ - 1 month
|
|"Russian Tour 2024" t-shirts. Kylo Ren "MORE" meme on the front,
|Crossed out list of Russian towns on the back, but with Moscow not
|crossed out and circled in red at the bottom.
|u/Destinlegends - 1 month
|
|It’s just a drill Russia has nothing to worry about.
|u/stefan-is-in-dispair - 1 month
|
|I wonder what is a common Russian citizen thinking about this.
|u/Kruger_Smoothing - 1 month
|
|Love. ❤️
|u/myrainyday - 1 month
|
|It would be nice to see Ukraine grabbing some land from Russia. That
|would be my dream. That would not bring all the dead heroes and
|people. Evil empire needs to fall :))
|u/Asleep-Tomato2899 - 1 month
|
|May they wipe the earth. SU!
|u/drunkbelgianwolf - 1 month
|
|I just hope they get out in time. Regroup and repeat somewhere else.
|Force poetin to beef up his defences so the war would become a even
|bigger burden on russia
|u/codyl0611 - 1 month
|
|What are the chances they get far enough in to just off putin
|themselves?
|u/MadKingOni - 1 month
|
|Imagine russia invades ukraine, then ukraine retaliates and fights all
|the way to Moscow lmao
|u/CaptnFnord161 - 1 month
|
|Yeah, but they'll be stupid if they did. "Never march on Moscow" is a
|proverb for a reason.
|u/FORDTRUK - 1 month
|
|Putin is inquiring whether it's against UN regulations to detonate a
|nuclear weapon on his own soil in the guise of calling it a test.
|u/Zealousideal_Rate420 - 1 month
|
|If Crimea is Russia, Kursk is Ukraine.
|u/KermitplaysTLOU - 1 month
|
|Wait so what's the endgame here? Get to the capital and knock on putins
|door to win? Can't he just say "stop the invasion or I'm nuking your
|country in self defense" does anyone know?.
|u/AZAZELXII - 1 month
|
|Siberia or bust!
|u/No_Act_8604 - 1 month
|
|I always ear that the best defensive is an offensive.
|u/rockymitten - 1 month
|
|Biggest uno reverse ever
|u/villefilho - 1 month
|
|Zelensky will be the next ruzzia president?
|u/Autoxquattro - 1 month
|
|For anyone interested, a friend of mine, an American, went to Ukraine a
|year or so ago to volunteer to help with aid and whatever. Has recently
|been doing a simple news report on whats happening from Ukraine.
|https://youtu.be/CEynUMGeTSQ?si=vwcKTHnC7D-v0ig8
|u/Retired852 - 1 month
|
|Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦 Long live President Zelensky
|u/I_Dont_Like_Rice - 1 month
|
|It would be hilarious if Ukraine completely dominated and took Russia
|over and Putie was exiled to a small island off Antarctica. Russia would
|be re-named as New Ukraine.
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